Ship Simulator
English forum => Small talk => Topic started by: d9t on June 21, 2007, 00:20:38
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Grand Princess called in Rotterdam today, leaving in the evening sunshine. Beautiful ship!
(http://i14.tinypic.com/68a3dwi.jpg)
(http://i11.tinypic.com/6b9h4d1.jpg)
(http://i9.tinypic.com/5z54nk1.jpg)
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Wow... It's a shame I wasn't there to see it.
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I wish that ship would come to the harbor where I live. ;)
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I saw an advert in a paper for that ship, she has a really weird shape for a cruise ship.
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Wow. Incredible shots. I bet she is tough to get about in there. Where is the terminal she docks at? Near the Holland American docks?
Lets see more photos!
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With a ship that size, the bow will be in holland america docks and the stern right up the coast.
All that money spent on a ship and they can't even make it look nice ;)
Stu
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I think she has a unique look, for sure.
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I think she has a unique look, for sure.
Esmerelda had a unique look too...
Stu
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With a ship that size, the bow will be in holland america docks and the stern right up the coast.
All that money spent on a ship and they can't even make it look nice ;)
Stu
Beauty, as I have said before, is in the eye of the beholder ;D
The main design criterion for these ships is interior volume, so what do you expect?
Cheers,
Michael
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Beauty, as I have said before, is in the eye of the beholder ;D
The main design criterion for these ships is interior volume, so what do you expect?
Cheers,
Michael
HA HA well said
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Beauty, as I have said before, is in the eye of the beholder ;D
Yes, well the main point of a car is to drive it down the road... So who is queuing up to by the latest TATA pick up?
I do take your point, but I really think the stern looks awful. I am in no doubt its like great city inside. No doubt at all.
Stu
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I have a model of her. KM
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What an ugly ship!!!!
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I agree! Don't like the ass! >:( :P
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4. Sava Lake
(http://i16.tinypic.com/4yh8u3t.jpg)
5. P4
(http://i16.tinypic.com/66l6jk8.jpg)
6. Eerland-3
(http://i19.tinypic.com/4px7lzc.jpg)
:)
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(http://i19.tinypic.com/4px7lzc.jpg)
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Now you have to agree that this little tug is pretty funny looking, its so small ;D I agree i don't like the end of the ship either, its too flat, and its got that hughe observation thing at the top. KM
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HAHA, I LOVE THAT TUGE! Mabye it's a girl tug! :P For girl ho want to have a job like this! :P ::) eeeh
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HA HA HA HA! :D
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HAHA, I LOVE THAT TUGE! Mabye it's a girl tug! :P For girl ho want to have a job like this! :P ::) eeeh
;D ;D ;D oh man, thats a good one, lol, ha ha ha ;D ;D ;D. KM ;D
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Well, it may be funny tugs but they do heavy jobs.
I onse saw a few of these tugs pushing and towing a barge with a new containercrane for the port of antwerp.
I'll post some pictures when I find them.
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Yeah, it's strong boat! But it look like if a littel wind come's, will it fall over :P hehe or a Wave :P
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yea, it looks like if a 10 foot wave came the tug would be swamped. ;D KM
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Details about this small tug to be found on this page:
http://www.smit.com/equipment/www/pages/details.asp?EquipTypeId=1&EquipTypeName=Vessels&EquipId=52
The pdf Eerland 3.pdf , after downloading, had no .pdf attached.
Regards
Luc
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yea, it looks like if a 10 foot wave came the tug would be swamped. ;D KM
Those boats are actually quite able! They are all engine and not top-heavy at all. But that said, 10-foot waves are not common in Rotterdam harbor.
@ Luc: When I clicked on the "download pdf" link I got a file called "eerland" with no extension, but it is a .pdf -- all you have to do is add the extension.
Cheers,
Michael
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Hello Michael,
Nice tug, indeed and also with flanking rudder! Thanks for the pdf... .
Also, I like the design of the Kotug with 3 Schottel azimuthing propellers, of whom I dont attach a picture, to avoid angering sam simmer who doesnt like the magic beauty of the Kotug.
But I found an short presentation of the development; from this, I can infer that a mathematical model giving realistic results is not straightforward, to say the least.
http://www.rotortug.com/downloads/its_paper_2000.pdf
And they give a bollard pull of 75t with only 6400hp. ::)
Regards,
Luc
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Hello Michael,
Nice tug, indeed and also with flanking rudder! Thanks for the pdf... .
Also, I like the design of the Kotug with 3 Schottel azimuthing propellers, of whom I dont attach a picture, to avoid angering sam simmer who doesnt like the magic beauty of the Kotug.
But I found an short presentation of the development; from this, I can infer that a mathematical model giving realistic results is not straightforward, to say the least.
http://www.rotortug.com/downloads/its_paper_2000.pdf
And they give a bollard pull of 75t with only 6400hp. ::)
Regards,
Luc
Hello Luc,
It is now officially summer, but it look more like fall -- brisk NW winds and possibility of showers :(
You are quite right about the rotor tugs -- beautiful and versatile beasts. Take a look also at:
http://www.seabulktowing.com/sdmtech.html (http://www.seabulktowing.com/sdmtech.html)
Many towing specifications in the US (Navy, LPG, etc) now call for tractor tugs of some type, whether Schottel or Voith-Schneider cycloidal, and these do give impressive mobility and bollard-pull. The story is that they are hard to handle, though -- at least for tug captains used to conventional screw propellers. More than 1 company has set up its own simulator to train its people.
Cheers,
Michael
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7. Ostara
(http://i15.tinypic.com/66480pd.jpg)
8. RPA 10
(http://i9.tinypic.com/4zu52z6.jpg)
9. Nieuwe Maze
(http://i7.tinypic.com/6617wbl.jpg)
10. Thalassa Royal
(http://i11.tinypic.com/66czhxd.jpg)
11. Abel Tasman
(http://i18.tinypic.com/4xws3fp.jpg)
12. P5
(http://i13.tinypic.com/638jthk.jpg)
13, 14, 15, 16.
Rotterdam (HAL)
(http://i7.tinypic.com/6fg2693.jpg)
(http://i10.tinypic.com/4lg2knq.jpg)
(http://i15.tinypic.com/61nm6ja.jpg)
(http://i13.tinypic.com/53skiz9.jpg)
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Wow - Such great photos
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Is that yellow tug built to some standardised design?
It seems a familiar design. Looks just like those under construction in SantCruzzi (Bilbao), Spain.
Stu
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It also happens to be in SS08! ;D
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Here are the 'funny' tugs doing some heavy work:
(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/1559/img3082ry8.jpg)
(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/229/img3076ss8.jpg)
This is on the channel between the Wester and the Oosterschelde.
They are transporting a new containercrane for the MSC terminal in the Delwaide dok, in the port of Antwerp.
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That's impressive! I wonder how they got it on the bardge?
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I was lucky to see this, We were driving home from a weekend sailing and when we just wanted to drive in the tunnel to drive trough under the channel I saw something strange going trough the bridge over the channel.
My dad parked the car near the channel nd toulk some pictures.
The right place at the right time. ;D
Here are some more pictures.
How it looks in the car when your driving on the highway.
(http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4507/img3071jt5.jpg)
(http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/2643/img3072zw9.jpg)
I'm sorry for the bad quality of the pictures.
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That's impressive! I wonder how they got it on the bardge?
I think they lift it up and ride it on the barge with this (http://www.mammoet.com/plaatjes/db/images/big/237.jpg).
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Yeah, that makes sense, though it would probably have to have a bigger bed; the one they used.
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If the cranes run on rails (which most do), I would expect that they have welded rail sections to the barge and run them on. I remember seeing something on one of the discovery channels or national geographic when several container crains were made in the far east, rolled onto a vessel and shipped to the US accross the Pacific!
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17. De Majesteit
(http://i17.tinypic.com/6gumiyh.jpg)
18. Marga
(http://i10.tinypic.com/628g8xf.jpg)
19. Josefine
(http://i8.tinypic.com/67d4kcz.jpg)
20. Waterboot 15
(http://i8.tinypic.com/5377qzo.jpg)
:)
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If the cranes run on rails (which most do), I would expect that they have welded rail sections to the barge and run them on. I remember seeing something on one of the discovery channels or national geographic when several container crains were made in the far east, rolled onto a vessel and shipped to the US accross the Pacific!
They must have had a tight schedule with the tide, or is the tide at Rotterdam constant?
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They must have had a tight schedule with the tide, or is the tide at Rotterdam constant?
One can tell the question is from a Brit -- Rotterdam (more-or-less at the center of an oscillatory system) has very little tide.
Cheers,
Michael
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Never been to Rotterdam you see. ;)
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If the cranes run on rails (which most do), I would expect that they have welded rail sections to the barge and run them on. I remember seeing something on one of the discovery channels or national geographic when several container crains were made in the far east, rolled onto a vessel and shipped to the US accross the Pacific!
Yes, that is possible with the Dockwise ships and a chinese company where I can't spell the name of.
But this crane is only the upper part, it can't run on rails yet.
The transport you mean is with ships like this (http://www.zpmc.com/ship_detail.asp?Article_ID=108&Column_ID=36).
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Yes, that is possible with the Dockwise ships and a chinese company where I can't spell the name of.
But this crane is only the upper part, it can't run on rails yet.
The transport you mean is with chips like this (http://www.zpmc.com/ship_detail.asp?Article_ID=108&Column_ID=36).
True, I should open my eyes a little. :)
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More!
21. Seven Oceans
(http://i18.tinypic.com/54iict4.jpg)
22. Polar Queen
(http://i10.tinypic.com/661u0p2.jpg)
23. Emma
(http://i17.tinypic.com/4qxdp2b.jpg)
24. Spica
(http://i17.tinypic.com/4yq0941.jpg)
25. Arison
(http://i15.tinypic.com/4opdxqr.jpg)
26. Breediep + Zennestroom
(http://i18.tinypic.com/624gx6t.jpg)
27. VS Hamburg
(http://i12.tinypic.com/4pj8qw3.jpg)
28. Prisonships1
(http://i15.tinypic.com/6apfja0.jpg)
29. Prisonships2
(http://i16.tinypic.com/6gsk5y0.jpg)
30. Claudia
(http://i19.tinypic.com/4ziwmdi.jpg)
31. unknown
(http://i19.tinypic.com/4miusug.jpg)
32. De Delft
(http://i12.tinypic.com/6ahgqra.jpg)
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What sort of ships are the Seven Oceans and Polar Queen? What are they used for?
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I think they are used to lay cables on the seabottom.
U can see a large drum on the ship.
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U can see a large drum on the ship.
Yeah I'd wondered about that, I guess cable laying makes sense. But what's the helipad for? And no "for helicopters to land on" sarcy comments please, I mean why does a helicopter need to land there? :D
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They are pipe-lay boats. I think the Seven Oceans used to be called something else when I saw her in New Orleans.
Many jobs for bigger pipe-laying vessels with the explosion of offshore oil drilling.
About all deepwater oil-field vessels have helipads since that is the main way people get around.
Cheers,
Michael
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I don't think she could be called else beceaus she allways had the name Seven Oceans.
Take a look at this:http://www.tugspotters.com/verslag/seven%20ocean/reisverslag.htm (http://www.tugspotters.com/verslag/seven%20ocean/reisverslag.htm)
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They are pipe-lay boats. I think the Seven Oceans used to be called something else when I saw her in New Orleans.
Many jobs for bigger pipe-laying vessels with the explosion of offshore oil drilling.
About all deepwater oil-field vessels have helipads since that is the main way people get around.
Cheers,
Michael
Thanks for the info. :)
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I don't think she could be called else beceaus she allways had the name Seven Oceans.
Must have been a different vessel then -- similar pipe wheel, though.
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Nice pictures of the Grand Princess!!!
She was coming from Le Havre with 258 CM, 1088 PAX, Draft:8.90.