Ship Simulator
English forum => Vessel Design Group general => Development corner => Active Projects => Topic started by: marcstrat on October 25, 2007, 16:41:09
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Greetings,
Tell us your idea of missions you would like to have this vessel in the game.
Let us also know,why you dont like in the game.
Kind regards
Marc
P.S.The more members that vote,the more brighter can be the view of using it.
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Well, i'd have some tugs for a start. Then it would leave Hamburg say, then sail to Rotterdam :)
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I'll have to think about the missions, but that will not be the boggest problem. First some good tugs to manouvre her. :D
I say YES, bring her in the game! ;D
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First of all I have to say that I would like to see any new ship of this quality in SS08 (... my compliment to goax75) :). The Berge Stahl of course is very impressive so it would be really nice to have it in the sim. Just as my previous posters wrote, I can imagine some tug missions, too, but also navigating in bad weather (maybe in a field of icebergs) as well as some incidents could be a challenge.
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Yes, absolutely!
Personally I really like the large ships as these, in my opinion, are the most difficult to maneuver.
They also give me less grief, do to the fact that my graphics card is not quite up to date when using Ship Simulator. But then that is not the issue here.
Sailing the Berge Stahl into Rotterdam and out again is the most realistic and logical scenario. After all, that is what she was build for; sailing between Brazil and The Netherlands with iron ore, if I remember correctly.
Big Ben
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This is a great ship for in this game!!!!!
:o
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Greetings,
Please,comments are very welcome on this topic.Even if you dont like this big vessel to.Than we know whats living among us(members).
This is how i see this vessel in the game.
You start in the Bay of San francisco,heading for New york,so you have to pass the ocean area,in New york you have to do some repaires on the vessel,before you can continue for Port of Rotterdam,where your vessel will be assist by some tugs to dock this on the right mooring.
This will be only possible,when the online modus is working i know,and it will be a long distance mission.
However,i think this has value for the game.
Regards
Marc
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Of course I'd love to see this in-game, like all of goax75's work it's brilliant. Whether or not it could or should be imported in all its splendid detail (and what that would mean for system requirements) is another matter.
The internet tells us only two ports can handle her fully loaded, Terminal Marítimo de Ponta da Madeira in Brazil and Europoort, Rotterdam - she only sails between these two. So realistic missions would mainly revolve to her arriving/departing Rotterdam. This requires two things - (1) channels and berths of adequate depth (23m) and (2) functional tug boats. There's currently some doubt around both of these.
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It would be a nice addition to the game, all though I believe a Panmax or handysize would be better for gameplay, since there are alot more options for missions. If you choose to put Berge Stahl or any other large cargo ship in the sim, please consider giving it a more realistic engine control.
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I really like this. Variety of vessels really improves interest.
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What gonna be the vessel's Draft?
Hope not so heavy that we can come in Hamburg and Rotterdam.
This vessel is usual calling votiria and ponta do Umbu here in Brazil but at the north part.
I have been participating with the pilot during berth this great vessel in Vitoria, we got 5 Tugs, 2x60t bollard pull 3x45tons bollard pull tugs.
Cheers
Yes, absolutely!
Personally I really like the large ships as these, in my opinion, are the most difficult to maneuver.
They also give me less grief, do to the fact that my graphics card is not quite up to date when using Ship Simulator. But then that is not the issue here.
Sailing the Berge Stahl into Rotterdam and out again is the most realistic and logical scenario. After all, that is what she was build for; sailing between Brazil and The Netherlands with iron ore, if I remember correctly.
Big Ben
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Definitely! Why waste such a great project!
My mission ideas would be long ocean voyages between harbours transfering coal, or dry goods, with tugs to take you into the harbour for berthing.
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I am a huge fan of the Berge Stahl and I think this is an amazing ship
But I did find one thing wrong... ;)
Warning: This could be a problem on my computer (ya know pic. distortion)
The real Berge is about twice as wide as the model depicted here (sorry)
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Yes, i wont it in the game =)
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So is it going to be made?
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it is made, but goax75 have to make the intror ready! =)
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What gonna be the vessel's Draft?
Hope not so heavy that we can come in Hamburg and Rotterdam.
First of all it a nice ship and it goes in the game i hope and the real draft of the ship is 22,5 to 23 m and that's fully loaded..
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If you could get back to me with a measurement of the ship beam (width) I would like to know what you have modeled it at. :)
The correct beam of the Berge is 208.3 feet (65m)
Also I would love to know what program you modeled her in please
-The Lord of The Llamas
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Goax75 using 3dmax, mabye Rhino and Photoshop for the texture =)
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How lon untell it is in the game. :-\
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Well, i would like it in the game.
It's a huge vessel to handle,and can be used for tugoperations,also the design and making are of the best quality.The idea is to get more different vessels,in the future.Small and Big.
If you're a fan of Shipsim,well make your computer stronger than the minimum standards for running the game.
This can prevent you from slow running,and other problems that can happen.
My next purchasing thing i want is more memory,now i'm running on 2.00Gb,but i want 4.00Gb
Than a extra videocard,for running on 3 screens,now i'm allready can run it on 2 screens.
The luck i have is that i still have a old computer,i mean i size,so i can put alot more in it(very much space left).
I even deleted FS,and al other sims that i had.
Regards
Marc
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A little problem......Berge Stahl can only fit in Rotterdam and a brazilian port that isn't on ShipSim. So we can ony put it in the ocean servers and Rotterdam ;D
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New Horizon v2.0 I guess ;D
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Greetings,
Now,with the game growning and more to come(maybe) in the future,i think "Berge Stahl"will fit perfectly in the game.The same with the big tanker Vstep have made.
So we get a variation of different vessels,which is realy good in my point of view.
Also why let a project of this quality go?
It's made by very high standards,which can be compaired with the Vstep standards.
It is also build under the name of NVDG,goax75 joined us from the very start.Its also one project who has reached the end.Other vessels have been started,however never finished,which is realy bad.
NVDG,is not only making vessels,it's a group of volunteers with the same idea,different people from around the world,working together.
I hope this vessel gets in someday,atleast to see if it would work,how many people would sail her.
Regards
Marc
P.S.Sorry i'm a "Berge Stahl"fan,i can't help it.
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I guess this ship will be stripped as much as the new push boat that arrives with New Horizon? One thing is to see beautiful hyper-realistic renderings and another thing is to see what it ends up like in the game.
But I know the reason why - performance performance and again performance. Not that ShipSim 2008 hurts my 8800 Ultra. Maybe it would if the push boat was as much detailed as shown on the renderings :D
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Dreams.. sweet dreams... ;D
It wasn't actually stripped as much as you would think. You can't judge from the early beta shots. It will be a bit better than what you may have seen on those first screenshots.
But it wont be like the renders, that's a bit too much to ask. But this is true for so many prototypes anyway.
Fred
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OH YES! ;D ;D, you must bring her in, MUST. I really love how the ship looks and i think im really gonna enjoy sailing wit her in the harbors or even the Atlantic ocean. ;)
Mission idea:
Name:The Berth of the "Berge Stah"
Description:
As the Capitan if the Berth Stah, you have been give your first job after she was launched in early April 09.The sun is falling and the clouds make a nice peaceful and calm end of the day.Water is calm, some breeze just to keep things cool and there 3lb force to handle out there.But the Job cannot be done alone so 2 Sea Shepra(s) offered to help here beth out of the harbor and then she's all clear to sea for a long journey into another world.However can you stay on track and not run aground until you reach the open sea or will you let your ship go the wrong way.But be aware of the sea, there will be Tankers and Cargo vessels coming in when you reach Rotterdam North sea.And blow that horn and let everyone know theres a new ship ready for action, just don't ram any small vessels along the way.
Environment(s):
Port Of Rotterdam, Rotterdam North Sea and Atlantic Ocean.
Weather: Towards sunset while in the Rotterdam Port,and when your reach "Rotterdam North Sea" time is 12:00 Am, weather is clear sky, dark, and the moon is fully visible, and you can enjoy that scenery for the rest of your peaceful journey..
Water Force 3lb:
Ships: Berge Stahl and Farimonth Shepra x2.
Mission: Medium
Tip:
The key to succeeding this mission is patience and skill, after all we have a very special new ship here ready for service.
You can choose the the name who came up with the idea for the mission either me " Third Mate" or the person who created the mission, so it will be fine by me anyway's :).
With all my regards to you creator of this excellent vessel,
Third Mate ;)
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Hello,
Wish there was more news about this amazing vessel for the game,there are realy people who wants to sail it,because the vessel has been made with great accuracy,and eye for detail.
I hope to hear some news,in the future about it.
It has a real gaming potential,specialy with the more advanced players.
Marc
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Keep on voting,
If you like this project ,or not.
Your votes are importent.
Marc
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I really want this vessel in the game, but i'm worried VSTEP will turn it down because we already have a large VLCC? (Or is the Berge Stahl a bulk carrier?)
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Hi NathanC
If I am not mistaken, she is an Iron ore bulk carrier.
The only trouble is, that she can only tie off in two ports in the world..
One is Rotterdam, and the other is in Brazil.
And then, only when the tide is favorable.
So I hope she can even sail into Rotterdam, seing how the depths in the game have often been reported as too shallow... :-\
Regards,
Fred
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Well the other option is to create,the south american port,in the future to.Also tidal waters,so you have to calculate the exact time of arrival.
Since i work now for my new company,i had the luck to visite allready more vessels of BW.The company were the Berge Stahl is a part of.
Marc
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By the way, before we have the ship in the game i just wanted to point a little thing out.Didn't Berge Stahl had white paint job in the back ?
Also here's some information about her ;)
MS Berge Stahl
The MS Berge Stahl is the largest bulk carrier ship in the world. She is registered in Stavanger, Norway. She was previously registered in Monrovia, Liberia.
Iron Ore Bulk Carrier Berge Stahl.
An iron ore carrier, the Berge Stahl weighs in at a massive 364,767 deadweight metric tons, she was built in 1986 by Hyundai Heavy Industries.[1][2][3] The Berge Stahl is 1,122 feet (343 m), has a beam, or width, of 208.3 feet (65 m), and a draft, or depth in the water, of 23 m.[4]
Her Hyundai B&W 7L90MCE diesel engine is 30-feet (9 m) high, drives a single 30-foot (9 m) screw, and puts out 27,610 horsepower (20.59 MW), has a top speed of 13.5 knots, and has a 30-foot (9 m) high rudder.[5][citation needed]
She is owned by the Norwegian shipping company Bergesen d.y. ASA.[2]
Because of her massive size, the Berge Stahl can only tie up, fully loaded, at two ports in the world, hauling ore from the Terminal MarÃtimo de Ponta da Madeira in Brazil to the Europoort near Rotterdam in the Netherlands. Even at these ports, passage must be timed to coincide with high tides to prevent the ship running aground. The Berge Stahl makes this trip about ten times each year, or a round-trip about every five weeks.[6][7] In September of 2006, the ship carried ore to the port of Majishan, China, where she was dry-docked and given her twenty-year inspection.[8] On the return voyage to Rotterdam, she picked up a partial load of ore in Dampier, West Australia, and Saldanha Bay in South Africa (where the maximum depth permitted is 21 m).[9]
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Greetings,
When we started this vessel,irt was stil in her old colors,and because of that we kept it that way.Most of al vessels are with a white superstructure.This is just different.
We know this vessel,however thanks for the extra details.
I still like her.
Marc
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Look here for the older pics
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Greetings,
When we started this vessel,irt was stil in her old colors,and because of that we kept it that way.Most of al vessels are with a white superstructure.This is just different.
We know this vessel,however thanks for the extra details.
I still like her.
Marc
Ahh, well said.i just was unsure about which color is which.But i can say this she is truly beautiful :).your welcome, this ship captured my attention to, so again you have my vote.
Yes,again you have my clearance for opening the door's and giving berth to such a masterpiece 8).
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GREETINGS MY SHIP SIM FRIENDS !!!!!!
HEHEHEH AGAIN ME AND BERGE STAHL. ;D
I wish to show you something NEW !!!!! After several tries and small practice I wissh to show you my vision MS BERGE STHAL Ship on Virtual Sailor. This is first beta test renders :)
(http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/9977/sli1iz9.png)
(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9946/sl2wl9.png)
(http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/3927/sl3ye7.png)
(http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/7504/sl5wn2.png)
(http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2255/sl6yg2.png)
This is first preview !!! Seee you :)
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Amazing ship,and an amazing project,i realy hope that vstep follows this example.
It's to bad,its only on virtual sailer,for the moment.
Marc
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Congratulations Goax!!! :D I bet the VS engine was working like *** to render your vessel on the screen. ;D
It looks nice indeed 8)
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HotHot!<3
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bow chika wow wow :D, sorry i was just getting a little excited there. Come on 100%,give berth to this ship and sail the even seas ;D, my guess is when the voes reach to 100% we will know for sure if the the vessel will be coming to SS08 ;).
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Nice! Are you going to make it available for download for Virtual Sailor?
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Amazing work Goax! :) I really hope that we'll see her soon in SS even though it will be difficult to enter any of the SS harbours due to the low tide state they are modelled in. :-\
Regards
groennegaard
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I didn't think this could get much better, :-\
but, IT DID ;D
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Is it possible that i can try it into VS7?
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wt@! and VS already crashes with my poseidon model. take a look at this! ;D
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wt@! and VS already crashes with my poseidon model. take a look at this! ;D
I can't even RUN your Poseidon model ;D
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haha :D
i think my computer will implode if i would load a model with the detail of goax :D
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haha :D
i think my computer will implode if i would load a model with the detail of goax :D
haha i think i must buy some bags of ice for overheating
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here is my mission i want for it it starts in rotterdam and heads for new york.while in the atlantic a storm hits and a iceberg field can be seen. the ship must beat the bergs without ending up where titanic is.
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The Berge Shahl doesn't go to New York. :-\
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The Berge Shahl doesn't go to New York. :-\
You can't take it to Brazil in the game though, same with the Pride of Rotterdam and being unable to go to Hull :-\
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Sorry to drag this back from the grave.
Does anyone know the current status of the Berge Stahl project?
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Death for now.
Nothing more to say.
Marc