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English forum => Small talk => Topic started by: michael_taal on December 05, 2012, 20:37:00

Title: SHIP SUNK 100KM OF ROTTERDAM!!
Post by: michael_taal on December 05, 2012, 20:37:00
A carrier Baltic Ace is sinking on the North sea after an accident with the Coral J (probably the Coral J is the Corvus J). The accident happened 100KM away from Rotterdam.

the coastguard has setup an big rescue operation. It isnt sure if there are people in danger. (both ships dont have AIS anymore)

the sinking vessel is a car carrier that is sailing under the flag of the Bahama's. at around 19.15 hour (dutch time) a containervessel from Cyprus collided with the car carrier.

A helicopter and 7 rescue vessels are underway at this moment 4 ship are at the scene (Corvus J,Panagia,Caroline Essberger and the Kamarno) the 7 ships that are underway are the Friesland,Groningen (both dutch navy),koopmansdank,Zeemandhoop,Antoinette (both 3 KNRM),Menkar (pilot),Grande America.

http://marinetraffic.com/ais/shipdetails.aspx?MMSI=209883000

http://marinetraffic.com/ais/shipdetails.aspx?MMSI=309474000
Title: Re: SHIP SINKING 100KM OF ROTTERDAM!!
Post by: michael_taal on December 05, 2012, 21:15:07
The Baltic Ace has 23 people onboard at the moment the Grande America,OD-6 (small trawler) and the Friesland are at the scene.
there are now also 3 helicopters underway (2 from Belgium and 1 dutch one)
it looks like the ferry Pride of Bruges is also setting course to the scene.

if I know more info you will hear it
Title: Re: SHIP SINKING 100KM OF ROTTERDAM!!
Post by: michael_taal on December 05, 2012, 21:18:54
the helicopters have hoised some people out of there rafts.
Title: Re: SHIP SINKING 100KM OF ROTTERDAM!!
Post by: michael_taal on December 05, 2012, 21:19:29
THE SHIP HAS SUNK  
Title: Re: SHIP SINKING 100KM OF ROTTERDAM!!
Post by: michael_taal on December 05, 2012, 21:32:01
they have found 4 liferafts
Title: Re: SHIP SINKING 100KM OF ROTTERDAM!!
Post by: pomperek on December 05, 2012, 21:35:06
Pride of Bruges  on the way to Hull
Title: Re: SHIP SINKING 100KM OF ROTTERDAM!!
Post by: michael_taal on December 05, 2012, 21:45:48
I see it but first it was heading to the scene.

A lot of Ambulances from The haque and Rotterdam are heading to Rotterdam-The Haque airport.

the first helicopter is now going to land at Erasmus hospital in Rotterdam the other ones are heading to the airport.
Title: Re: SHIP SINKING 100KM OF ROTTERDAM!!
Post by: michael_taal on December 05, 2012, 21:51:23
A Dornier 228 has left Schiphol underway to the scene for assistance
Title: Re: SHIP SINKING 100KM OF ROTTERDAM!!
Post by: VirtualSkipper on December 05, 2012, 21:56:57
Here you can listen to their radio frequency:
http://knrmterheijde.nl/index.php/scanner-2
Title: Re: SHIP SINKING 100KM OF ROTTERDAM!!
Post by: michael_taal on December 05, 2012, 21:59:31
thankyou!!

the dornier has en ETA from 22:08 hour


only 10 of the 24 people are rescued so far
Title: Re: SHIP SINKING 100KM OF ROTTERDAM!!
Post by: michael_taal on December 05, 2012, 22:08:51
13 of 24 saved
Title: Re: SHIP SINKING 100KM OF ROTTERDAM!!
Post by: VirtualSkipper on December 05, 2012, 22:11:16
A rather expensive load of cars were on that ship:
8 Bentley's, 6 Rolls Roys Dropheads, 4 Lamborghini Aventadors and 12 Ferrari's.....

Anyone prepared to take the bill...?
Title: Re: SHIP SINKING 100KM OF ROTTERDAM!!
Post by: pomperek on December 05, 2012, 22:13:09
There are no other flights over the area, in addition to scheduled flights
http://www.flightradar24.com/
Title: Re: SHIP SINKING 100KM OF ROTTERDAM!!
Post by: michael_taal on December 05, 2012, 22:25:06
they had a very expensive cargo

8 Bentley's, 6 Rolls Roys Dropheads, 4 Lamborghini Aventadors and 12 Ferrari's...

Lets hope they rescue all 24 crew members!
Title: Re: SHIP SINKING 100KM OF ROTTERDAM!!
Post by: pomperek on December 05, 2012, 22:30:28
The cargo is insured, as a ship. Important people
Title: Re: SHIP SINKING 100KM OF ROTTERDAM!!
Post by: danny on December 05, 2012, 22:37:36
According to AIS, the following vessels are in attendance:

The ZEEMANSHOOP (S&R) and WIELINGEN (PILOT) are closing on the scene with the tug ZEEHOND inbound with an ETA of roughly 1-5 minutes
Title: Re: SHIP SINKING 100KM OF ROTTERDAM!!
Post by: pomperek on December 05, 2012, 22:46:03
From Oostende goes Wielingen and tug Zeehond
Title: Re: SHIP SINKING 100KM OF ROTTERDAM!!
Post by: Stuart2007 on December 05, 2012, 23:42:37
A rather expensive load of cars were on that ship:
8 Bentley's, 6 Rolls Roys Dropheads, 4 Lamborghini Aventadors and 12 Ferrari's.....

Anyone prepared to take the bill...?

Well done on your award for crass comment of the year.
Title: Re: SHIP SINKING 100KM OF ROTTERDAM!!
Post by: michael_taal on December 05, 2012, 23:43:11
3 sailors past away :'(  6 missing 7 to belgium and 4 to Rotterdam
Title: Re: SHIP SINKING 100KM OF ROTTERDAM!!
Post by: danny on December 06, 2012, 00:39:30
May the 3 sailors rest in peace  :'(

Looking at the AIS track of both vessels, it would appear the Corvus Js' bow collided with the side of the Baltic ace at roughly 14.7(?) knots. The track also indicates that the Corvus J intended to pass astern of the Baltic ace (which was making 18.5 knots at the time of collision)... which may mean that either mechanical or human error are to blame.

The Baltic Ace also had ice-class 1A, so it must have a very substantial collision to cause her to go down.
Title: Re: SHIP SINKING 100KM OF ROTTERDAM!!
Post by: larsdehaan on December 06, 2012, 08:58:45
According to AIS, the following vessels are in attendance:
  • PANAGIA
  • KOMARNO
  • GRANDE AMERICA
  • KOOPMANSDANK
  • MENKAR
  • GRONINGEN
  • OD-6
  • CAROLINE ESSBERGER
  • ANTOINETTE SAR
  • FRIESLAND

The ZEEMANSHOOP (S&R) and WIELINGEN (PILOT) are closing on the scene with the tug ZEEHOND inbound with an ETA of roughly 1-5 minutes
Hmm the Zeemanshoop had to travel a while.. knowing where she's docked
Title: Re: SHIP SINKING 100KM OF ROTTERDAM!!
Post by: MokMok on December 06, 2012, 09:00:45
@Danny:
Quote
Looking at the AIS track of both vessels, it would appear the Corvus Js' bow collided with the side of the Baltic ace at roughly 14.7(?) knots. The track also indicates that the Corvus J intended to pass astern of the Baltic ace (which was making 18.5 knots at the time of collision)... which may mean that either mechanical or human error are to blame.

At first my thoughts are going to the sailors who perished.

You see again that when a ro-ro vessel is hit in its side due to a collision, the car deck gets flooded and the vessel capsizes quickly. Did the Baltic Ace comply to the latest SOLAS-regulations for ro-ro passenger vessels regarding the survivability after a collision on it side?
Title: Re: SHIP SINKING 100KM OF ROTTERDAM!!
Post by: michael_taal on December 06, 2012, 14:29:26
5th body found still 6 missing probably all dead now because of the cold weather and cold water.

at the moment the KNRM lifeboats from hook of holland and Scheveningen are on the scene too (the knrm from scheveningen had to travel a long distance) also the coast guard vessel Arca is at the scene
Title: Re: SHIP SUNK 100KM OF ROTTERDAM!!
Post by: michael_taal on December 06, 2012, 17:05:18
the CG has stopped searching for survivors reason: they think nobody will be a life right now in the water and it is dark now
Title: Re: SHIP SUNK 100KM OF ROTTERDAM!!
Post by: michael_taal on December 07, 2012, 20:09:08
some pics from the damaged Corvus-J seen at Vlissingen from the KNRM vessel from Breskens
(http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb426/michael-taal/knrm_breskens_2012-12-06_-_1_corvus_j.jpg)
(http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb426/michael-taal/knrm_breskens_2012-12-06_-_2_corvus_j.jpg)
(http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb426/michael-taal/knrm_breskens_2012-12-06_-_3_corvus_j.jpg)
(http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb426/michael-taal/knrm_breskens_2012-12-06_-_4_corvus_j.jpg)
Title: Re: SHIP SUNK 100KM OF ROTTERDAM!!
Post by: pomperek on December 07, 2012, 21:15:11
Because the crew was Polish, spoke specialists. A multitude of modern instruments to assist in navigation, it causes loss of observing what is happening around. I will say more: Lloyds, PRS, or other certification bodies issuing the safety certificate which is any vessel and determining the minimum number of crew, do it after a thorough analysis, and for bribes? It turns out that the savings in the number of the crew, it's not a recipe for savings and cost reductions :(
Title: Re: SHIP SUNK 100KM OF ROTTERDAM!!
Post by: pomperek on December 07, 2012, 21:39:42
You have to think about what we can do to you what learn crews on ships  emphasized the observation and instilling into the brains of the electronics are added. A helpful addition. Automation of transport causes laziness and unlimited confidence in what is right sometimes fail. This is a question for all in the profession, now outside, enthusiasts, users and moderators. For never was such an event.