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English forum => Ship Simulator Extremes => Topic started by: SRN4 on June 04, 2011, 11:49:21

Title: Hovercraft non amphibious
Post by: SRN4 on June 04, 2011, 11:49:21
I tried going up the slipway on sse at full throttle and it just would not get up and also why did it have to be on steam my computer hates steam !!! so i had to ditch it

cheers

SRN4
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: TJK on June 04, 2011, 11:51:51
if you bay the game from www.shipsim.com you will get a non steam game
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Third Mate on June 04, 2011, 11:58:51
Not familiar with the post, what is HOVERCRAFT  NON AMPHIBIOUS mean? and what does it have to do with where you brought the game from  ???
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: SRN4 on June 04, 2011, 12:09:09
REALY!!!but i have already spent 30 quid on it and will sell on ebay for half the price
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: The Ferry Man on June 04, 2011, 12:09:26
Not familiar with the post, what is HOVERCRAFT  NON AMPHIBIOUS mean? and what does it have to do with where you brought the game from  ???

not sure on the Steam relevance, I don't think there is a stem powered hovercraft... now theres an idea...  !:)

but what he means is the fact you cannot take the F90 on land in SSE...
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: VirtualSkipper on June 04, 2011, 12:10:41
It was possible to bring the Freedom 90 on land in SS08, was it?
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: The Ferry Man on June 04, 2011, 12:10:59
It was possible to bring the Freedom 90 on land in SS08, was it?

you could indeed...
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: VirtualSkipper on June 04, 2011, 12:12:38
I was right.  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EsEFB_A6fc
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Third Mate on June 04, 2011, 12:17:10
I was right.  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EsEFB_A6fc

I am going add my capital letters now, OH MY GOD IF ONLY THE HOVERCRAFT IN SSE WOULD HAVE THOES SPECIAL EFFECTS, DYNAMICS,PHYSICS, HANDLEING CHARACTERISTICS PLUS NO SMOKE ALSO THE ACUAL CABIN LAYOUT  :evil:
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: VirtualSkipper on June 04, 2011, 12:18:50
I am going add my capital letters now, OH MY GOD IF ONLY THE HOVERCRAFT IN SSE WOULD HAVE THOES SPECIAL EFFECTS, DYNAMICS,PHYSICS, HANDLEING CHARACTERISTICS PLUS NO SMOKE ALSO THE ACUAL CABIN LAYOUT  :evil:

No need for capitals, we can hear (or read) you fine.  ;)
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: saltydog on June 04, 2011, 12:22:37
You can go on land with the hovercraft. Trouble is getting back on the water.. ;D
It's a bug that will probably be fixed with the next update..
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: VirtualSkipper on June 04, 2011, 12:25:11
You can go on land with the hovercraft. Trouble is getting back on the water.. ;D
It's a bug that will probably be fixed with the next update..

Looks like that Redjet 4 in the background is having problems with docking.  ::)
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: The Ferry Man on June 04, 2011, 12:25:34
I sure hope so...  :)

So, Do you know anything about the dynamics of the real Freedom 90 SRN4? :)
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Third Mate on June 04, 2011, 12:26:05
You can go on land with the hovercraft. Trouble is getting back on the water.. ;D
It's a bug that will probably be fixed with the next update..

eventually yeah, sometime we do come across some i guess you can call them irritating things which all we can do is identify them, and hope vstep will fix them
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: SRN4 on June 04, 2011, 12:28:36
what do you mean ?
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: SRN4 on June 04, 2011, 12:33:46
length:21.5m
power:4 800 hp turbo diesels
beam:10.6m
max speed :60kts
hovering height:8.9m

So yeh quite alot at the back of my head!!!! ;D
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: The Ferry Man on June 04, 2011, 12:35:32
I meant how she handles...  :doh:

Is her depiction in SSE accurate, seeing as its caused a lot of debate...*


*Well, some debate, even if its not a lot...
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: SRN4 on June 04, 2011, 12:42:31
Well i know it drifts like nothing else on the water !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and how do you download the srn4 hovercraft
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: The Ferry Man on June 04, 2011, 12:49:02
Well i know it drifts like nothing else on the water !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and how do you download the srn4 hovercraft

Which one? cause mine one is not finished yet and its not in game...
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Third Mate on June 04, 2011, 12:55:01
Which one? cause mine one is not finished yet and its not in game...

Don;t worry about it Ferry Man, he was overly excited about the hovercraft your told him about and though there was a download link to download it for SSE for free and at the same time not realizing he missed out a few important things along the way, requesting for topic to be locked for the better
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: cpt.nordstrand on June 04, 2011, 13:34:53
it is possible to sail on the sand banks in bora bora, and get back into the water
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: VirtualSkipper on June 04, 2011, 15:04:59
it is possible to sail on the sand banks in bora bora, and get back into the water

You should because hovercrafts hover over the water.  ;)
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Third Mate on June 04, 2011, 15:34:07
You should because hovercrafts hover over the water.  ;)

Ah yes, hovercrafts can go on land and on water. The only thing they can't do is fly.
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: SRN4 on June 04, 2011, 16:30:46
Well to be honest they do fly but it is not a plane because it goes along on the water but it is not a ship because it fly's above the surface of the sea.
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Aad The Pirate on June 04, 2011, 18:11:18
I was right.  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EsEFB_A6fc
And you could manouvre her on land (sort of) as in this vid
http://youtu.be/LVgi3QqpVCw
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: SRN4 on June 04, 2011, 19:44:49
isnt that ss20008  ???
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: The Ferry Man on June 04, 2011, 19:47:00
it is indeed
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: mvsmith on June 05, 2011, 01:32:02
In SSE the hovercraft can only move on the surface of the water. In order for her to appear to move over land, it is necessary to raise the surface of the water under the land to be as close as possible to the surface of the land without breaking through and making the land—or ramp—disappear.
This unlovely kluge leads to a number of problems and makes it unlikely that other hovercraft may appear.
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: The Ferry Man on June 05, 2011, 11:05:38
In SSE the hovercraft can only move on the surface of the water. In order for her to appear to move over land, it is necessary to raise the surface of the water under the land to be as close as possible to the surface of the land without breaking through and making the land—or ramp—disappear.
This unlovely kluge leads to a number of problems and makes it unlikely that other hovercraft may appear.


Oh...

Thats not good :/

Why was it changed though? the SS08 Hovercraft were fine as it was, and on one of the promo interview talks Frank says about hovercraft(s) being in game -  I know things said before a release game can never be taken for granted, but still :/

And Doesn't Nautis have more hovercraft anyway? I thought I saw a couple of Military variations... Do they have the same problems then?

*Yes I know Nautis is different and professional
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: mvsmith on June 05, 2011, 12:57:28
SSE is very different from SS2008. One reason for the major change was an attempt to satisfy some demands by users of SS2008: Bigger waves, little people scurrying about the ships, etc.
That brings to mind the old saying: “Be careful what you ask for…”
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Third Mate on June 06, 2011, 08:23:00
I tried going up the slipway on sse at full throttle and it just would not get up and also why did it have to be on steam my computer hates steam !!! so i had to ditch it

cheers

SRN4

SRN4 how old are you? are you able do something for me, can you remove all the exclamation marks in your "Subject" section of your topic. Adding exclamation marks will not make a difference to the problem here in ShipSim forum.
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: The Ferry Man on June 06, 2011, 10:17:47
SSE is very different from SS2008. One reason for the major change was an attempt to satisfy some demands by users of SS2008: Bigger waves, little people scurrying about the ships, etc.
That brings to mind the old saying: “Be careful what you ask for…”


Shame - I never even wanted "bigger waves" :(

Is there no way to modify the hovercraft to fix this? :/
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Third Mate on June 06, 2011, 11:46:33
Shame - I never even wanted "bigger waves" :(

Is there no way to modify the hovercraft to fix this? :/

I just wanted the ocean to look real but no bigger waves, see how un-realisic the ocean looks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqdblonl988 compared to the ocean here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hUqt2acbm8&feature=related. But the but the nutters from who ever made the ship sim 08 video somehow managed to get their point across  ::) :o
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: SRN4 on June 06, 2011, 20:02:51
ok third mate but i am new to the forum so how do you do it  ???
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: saltydog on June 06, 2011, 20:15:13
Go to the very first post, click on Modify, then you can  'modify subject'..
You may also want to change the caps letters, it's considered as shouting ..
Title: Re: HOVERCRAFT NON AMPHIBIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Third Mate on June 07, 2011, 02:40:57
Cheers for that, don't worry someone will give you a sign of life, there are a fair amount of problems reported but they are all looked at and most of the times resolved  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Hovercraft non amphibious
Post by: saltydog on June 07, 2011, 23:22:14
So the Freedom 90 sails over the water, the land sits on the water.
Higher waves mean higher land, so the hovercraft gets stranded..
It's a conundrum.. :doh:
Title: Re: Hovercraft non amphibious
Post by: The Ferry Man on June 08, 2011, 00:38:15
I fear we're doomed to a non-amphibious hovercraft forever...

*Or at least until the next ShipSim comes out...

Shame... :(
Title: Re: Hovercraft non amphibious
Post by: saltydog on June 08, 2011, 01:05:36
Not really, only in MP would the option of high waves be necessary..
In Free Roam or Missions the height of the waves could be adjusted to the type of ship you choose..
So if you choose a hovercraft, the wave-height (land height) could perhaps be limited accordingly..  :)
Title: Re: Hovercraft non amphibious
Post by: Third Mate on June 08, 2011, 01:20:38
Hmmm, so you guy's tried it at Dover with the sandy beach? If you guy's wanna get absolutely big waves what I did is I went into mission edditor, opened up the wave control thing. Then I closed the editor but not the wave control thing. Went into free roam, chose an eviromoment, ship and just went ahead. Then I used the wave control thing to make the waves extremely high. But what I noticed is when the hovercraft hits a big wave it just stops it dosen't smash through it and shoots out spray
Title: Re: Hovercraft non amphibious
Post by: Third Mate on June 08, 2011, 01:23:51
I fear we're doomed to a non-amphibious hovercraft forever...

*Or at least until the next ShipSim comes out...

Shame... :(

I don't think I can trust VSTEP with another ship simulator, because of all the situations currently in SSE and it clearly indicates that they rushed. This feels like a war zone.Microsoft did a splendid job with their fligh sims, and train sims, then Railworks took over and created rail sim then rail works and rail works 2 the latest in train simulations. But when it comes to ship simulation, it's a long way away.
Title: Re: Hovercraft non amphibious
Post by: saltydog on June 08, 2011, 02:05:46
Hovercrafts are not really meant to sail in heavy seas, wave heights of aprox. 2 m is about max.

http://www.griffonhoverwork.com/products/9
Title: Re: Hovercraft non amphibious
Post by: The Ferry Man on June 08, 2011, 12:18:00
Freedom 90 has a maximum wave height of 2.4m

http://www.hovercraft-museum.org/ap1-88.html


The SRN4 Mk III could do up to 8ft (Also 2,4m) waves, though with a slower speed

http://www.hovercraft-museum.org/mk3.html

Title: Re: Hovercraft non amphibious
Post by: Ralphy on June 08, 2011, 15:23:16
When i went to the hover museum i was talking to the old pilot of the SR-N4's and he said that they could do any weather conditions but the passengers wouldn't enjoy it that much so they had that 2.4m limit
Title: Re: Hovercraft non amphibious
Post by: The Ferry Man on June 08, 2011, 15:27:14
Now that wouldn't surprise me...  :doh:
Title: Re: Hovercraft non amphibious
Post by: SRN4 on June 08, 2011, 15:58:18
was that so called "old pilot"named Alan Burns if so i know him very well and if you did see a man on the chair by the ladder of The Princess Anne that was my grandad! :o
Title: Re: Hovercraft non amphibious
Post by: Ralphy on June 08, 2011, 17:53:26
Don't know what his name was, he was very friendly.

I don't remember anyone sitting on a chair though  :-\
Title: Re: Hovercraft non amphibious
Post by: SRN4 on June 08, 2011, 19:45:08
was he quite an old chap ??? :captain: