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English forum => Small talk => The Chat Lounge => Topic started by: rjwhyte09 on May 16, 2011, 01:04:32
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Hi People I just found a half of a Scottish 20 pound note in a bush near my house i thought of taking it to the Royal Bank Of Scotland but would i get £20 Its real its not a fake iv check my m8 said its useless and just better binning it :o.
What should i do?
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Are you being serious here? ::)
If I find a cornish pasty doesn't mean I have to take it back to cornwall :doh:
Meh sorry I'm just messing with you!
I would have said that Scotland isn't special and uses the exact same currency as the rest of the UK.
But in this case this popped into my mind:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bank_of_Scotland_20_pound_note_2007.jpg
In which case your friend is right in saying it's useless as I would have thought that it wouldn't be classed as legal tender.
But there's no need to bin it at all that's silly, I would hang on to it as a collection.
After all they aren't very common, and could be classed as a collectors item.
In fact if it is that same note I mentioned above then you could if you find the right person sell it for anywhere between 30 to 40 GBP.
I know these things pretty much as I collect coins and notes myself. (Got them from all over the world now).
Let me know what note it is exactly though and then I can be absolutely positive. :thumbs:
Kind Regards,
Matthew
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I've had one before...it's not very easy spending one on the south coast, many people don't believe it's real since they've never seen one before.
As for the half of the note i don't think you can really do much with it, if they go around exchanging half notes then you could just rip all your notes in half and keep on going back and you would end up with double your money :lol:
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As long as you have BOTH serial numbers then you can bank it, so if its cut along its length and has BOTH numbers yes, otherwise no.
Technically speaking Scottish notes aren't legal tender anywhere (including Scotland), however there's some convention or other (the melbraveheart-gibson act) that permits it under a dispensation.
Many companies won't accept them and the reason for that isn't down to some show of annoyance with Scottish attitude, but simply that they are very easy to forge.
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Wait until Scotland becomes independent... then it will be legal :doh:
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to Matthew Brown the link shows £20 notes however its older than them its 2006 note ill keep it though it might be worth something in future :2thumbs:
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Wait until Scotland becomes independent... then it will be legal :doh:
When scotchland clears off and leaves England alone, the scotchish note will be worthless.
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But there's no need to bin it at all that's silly, I would hang on to it as a collection.
After all they aren't very common, and could be classed as a collectors item.
In fact if it is that same note I mentioned above then you could if you find the right person sell it for anywhere between 30 to 40 GBP.
I assume you are joking, but some might be daft enough...
If a £20 note could really be worth £30-40 just by being torn in half, I can double my fortune (and half my intelligence) overnight.
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I assume you are joking, but some might be daft enough...
If a £20 note could really be worth £30-40 just by being torn in half, I can double my fortune (and half my intelligence) overnight.
All right Mr. smarty pants, I misread the topic and didn't realize that he did say it was torn in half ::)
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Cash it in as £10
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Stuart2007 We will break away from Britain one day in the future i cant wait to get away from the UK goverment now with SNP getting 69 seats in the scottish parliament election 2 weeks ago they will hold a vote for independents in 2 years time :thumbs:
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After all they aren't very common, and could be classed as a collectors item.
In fact if it is that same note I mentioned above then you could if you find the right person sell it for anywhere between 30 to 40 GBP.
Are you kidding? I can go to a cash machine right next to where I live and take out hundreds of pounds of Scottish notes in one go. They're anything but collectors items, and only worth their face value - if they're in an acceptable condition of course (that is, not torn in half).
And actually, if you know enough about a Scottish note, it's just as easy to spot a forgery as with an English note, so they're no more easy to forge. That's an English myth.
I managed to get away without paying for breakfast in London once because the ignorant cafe owner refused to accept my Scottish note after I'd eaten my meal, saying the same. I had no other means of payment so offered to just leave. The police were called, and after checking my £10 note they advised the owner that I was offering legitimate payment for the service I'd received, so as far as they were concerned I was within my rights to leave without paying if he continued to refuse to accept the money.
So. Free breakfast and confirmation that my Scottish money is as legal in London as it is in Edinburgh... :-)
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Stuart2007 We will break away from Britain one day in the future i cant wait to get away from the UK goverment now with SNP getting 69 seats in the scottish parliament election 2 weeks ago they will hold a vote for independents in 2 years time :thumbs:
Egads no. Any Scot with half a brain knows that the Union is the best for all of us. We share resources, we are a bigger presence on the world stage. England needs us as much as we need England. We just need to learn to accept each others cultural differences without having to divorce from each other. I'm pretty sure an independence referendum would deliver a strong "No" vote.
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Im scottish and proud but the way Britain is now i don`t think we would survive as a country I get what strikewaffle saying england needs us and we need them but as it says
If Ireland can do it so can Scotland maybe not at the moment but in the future :2thumbs:
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Stuart2007 We will break away from Britain one day in the future i cant wait to get away from the UK goverment now with SNP getting 69 seats in the scottish parliament election 2 weeks ago they will hold a vote for independents in 2 years time :thumbs:
Bye then. Perhaps once the barnett formula is removed we can actually keep some of our hard earned tax for ourselves rather than subsidising your small piece of land. Oh and all my family are, I regret, scottish and I tell them this too.
If you are daft enough to think that alex salmond is a good thing for scotland then I say best of luck to you. We bought scotland, we've used it and now that it's finished I think it only right to give it back to you.
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Oh and I wouldn't use Ireland as a good example. It's economy (no offence to our Irish neighbours) is screwed at the moment.
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but the thing is scotland has OIL
...and the bagpipes
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to Stuart2007 by the way England never bought us we are just un-lucky we are part of the that country south Oh and our small Piece of land is hell of better that the rubbish England landscapes there was no need for that comment the mount of stuff that england takes from us is embarrassing and we should have more rights for Scotland no the ***** **** MPs in west minister that think about england .
Alex Salmond i do think he would be good he has been better that all the others First Ministers have been .
the most embarrassing thing england does and this has been said by SNP and My former High School Politic Teacher the oil Scottish oil gets shipped on oil Trucks travel From Aberdeen To somewhere done to england and ENGLAND is so kind to give us the rest of it when they are done how kind of them
If loads of people that don`t believe Independence or do in Scotland and looked at Your comment saying our lands are useless and also saying this keep some of our hard earned tax for ourselves rather than subsidising your small Piece of land it would never be took kindly iv got 2 warning on this forum im not wasting it on YOU :thumbdown: :evil:
Edited for language, there was no need to put it like that. - Fred
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How in Dover did we get here from half a £20 note... ???
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Dont no Ferry Man stuart2007n Took this abit far and im am totally disgusted on what he said :thumbdown: all i said was this
We will break away from Britain one day in the future i cant wait to get away from the UK goverment now with SNP getting 69 seats in the scottish parliament election 2 weeks ago they will hold a vote for independents in 2 years time
Then this by Stuart2007 --We bought scotland, we've used it and now that it's finished I think it only right to give it back to you.
I hate people like that.
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I understand what you're talking about with you wanting independance, but the fact is in the current polls there is a clear majority who wish to stay as it is. One day there may be independance but it's not happening as soon as you would hope...
And that is a very good question TFM ::)
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How in Dover did we get here from half a £20 note... ???
Politics ::)
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Ahhh... :doh:
Stay away from Politics and stick to ferries, thats what I think ;D
but any way, best plan of action... find the other halkf of the note !:)
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rjwhyte09 just ignore the troll (Stuart2007) - he's just fishing for a reaction like that.
At the end of the day, any debate on Scottish/Welsh/Northern Irish independence will descend into accusations, inflated arguments, petty name calling and childish posturing, which is why I normally try to avoid them ;-)
But one point of historical fact - England did kind of buy us. They bailed us out of the Darian disaster when we bankrupted ourselves. The price we paid was the union of the crowns and the dissolution of our Parliament.
Of course, that doesn't represent any sound argument in a modern independence debate as it was quite a long time ago and we've probably repaid our debt by now ;D
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TFM, it was actually YOU who started it, if you look back up.
Take my advice. NEVER talk politics with the scottish, religion with muslims, or global warming with Inuits.
The trouble is, of course, that most of this anti-England rants come from people with no right to it, or understanding of politics. Take sean connery (I hate to brake it to you but he is NOT james bond, hes an actor)- he is so pro-scotland and hates England... yet he lives in america.
I'm sorry, but the barnett formula is well and truly unfair against England. But if you weren't so young and inexperience (this is to rjw/waffles) you'd realise that this nationalistic rubbish being used by both English AND scottish as a means to divide and conquer. If people of Great Britain are too busy fighting it out to keep an eye on these little toads, then THEY win.
But as long as you get your independence (I wish you the VERY best and hope it happens soon) you'll not give a damn. I will because no doubt we will continue to bail you out.
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Oh and strike waffle, I don't have a clue where you got your history from. I really don't.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNQXQKflJNA
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you said this But if you weren't so young and inexperience meaning me i am credit in Modern studies and got full marks in my exam so i no what i am talking about and don`t try to blame it on other people you took this to far after i said about the Scottish election results.
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I usually tend not to try and touch upon topics to do with politics anywhere online, because more often than not they're ignited by people who still live in the 1700s. But...
I find it so sad that people still argue about the troubles in Northern Ireland, or Scotland, or anywhere else. I spent half my life living in Ireland, and half here, and to be quite honest I get on just as well with an Englishman as I would an Irishman. The people who cause trouble are the ones who ignite the bomb of politics + history, which always has caused trouble and always will.
In primary school in Ireland, I learned about what the atrocities that have happened over the years with English invasions of Ireland, but that doesn't make me dislike Britain. History is history, and that is where it should stay - We've got much more pressing issues to deal with in our time, rather than fighting about the past. The people here today aren't responsible for what their ancestors did yesterday.
I'll always quite happily fly the Union Jack next to the Tri-Colour.
Jack.
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i <3 scotland
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le91mq1rApY&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le91mq1rApY&feature=related)
Can the english put on a performance like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKfnfcgH3L4&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKfnfcgH3L4&feature=related)
the bagpipes are the best invention ever (bar ship sim)
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Come on CC no need for any upstagement on anything ::)
Where were we all exactly? Oh yeah !:) What do I do With Half of £20 note :doh:
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put it in da jar so that wen scotland come independant we wont need to worry about going bust ::) :doh:
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I am terrible ;D
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I don't mind taking advice from experienced adults, who understand politics, who appreciate history and who have a balanced outlook on life.
Thus far you are giving the impression of being young kids, maybe 13-15 yrs old with sfa understanding of politics. Your history is factually flawed (I think I can up you on qualifications and experience, but hey lets not go there).
Incidentally, channel 4 did a great documentary about the Catesby plot in Westminster. Perhaps you should look on 4OD for this- it explains a hell of a lot about the actions that led up to the AoU in 1707.
You have heard of King jimmy who took the throne after Queen lizzy 1 died? I mean you DO understand what led up to the acts of violence between catholics and the scottish aristocracy? Just in case, have a read up on the attitudes that changed with jimmy 1 and how it came to a head in the reign of charlie 1.
I'd suggest the act of settlement 1701 should be a good starting place. You have to understand WHY decisions were taken but to do that you have to view them from a relevant perspective.
But being wise grown up 15 year olds with your gcse's I suspect you know this already.
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Many companies won't accept them and the reason for that isn't down to some show of annoyance with Scottish attitude, but simply that they are very easy to forge.
A few years ago Strathclyde Police issued a scam warning to shop owners in my area to watch out for fake.....ENGLISH......£10 and £20 notes that was being circulating around.
Any banknotes can be forged, criminals doesn't care which currency or country.
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Kevin,
this isn't a slight at scotchland (there are many better reasons) but it IS a fact that scotchish notes are easier to forge than English ones.
I take scotchish notes here (or sometimes whisky, cabers, haggis and iron brew instead) and don't find much of a problem. I think I've had one dodgy £20 note this year- I have more dodgy English notes, but that's something to do with not having many scotchish customers.
There again after the scottish fred the shred wrecked the scottish royal bank of scotland, I wonder if the notes are actually worth anything now anyway...
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Kevin,
this isn't a slight at scotchland (there are many better reasons) but it IS a fact that scotchish notes are easier to forge than English ones.
I take scotchish notes here (or sometimes whisky, cabers, haggis and iron brew instead) and don't find much of a problem. I think I've had one dodgy £20 note this year- I have more dodgy English notes, but that's something to do with not having many scotchish customers.
There again after the scottish fred the shred wrecked the scottish royal bank of scotland, I wonder if the notes are actually worth anything now anyway...
1. Why do you keep calling Scotland "Scotchland"? Is this some kind of english slang?
2. Its Irn Bru (Iron brew tastes HORRIBLE)
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1. Why do you keep calling Scotland "Scotchland"? Is this some kind of english slang?
2. Its Irn Bru (Iron brew tastes HORRIBLE)
I think Stuart has been reading too much Kelvin Mackenzie (The Sun) and Quentin Letts (the Daily Mail) articles - both are well known for their anti-Scottish views.
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I think Stuart has been reading too much Kelvin Mackenzie (The Sun) and Quentin Letts (the Daily Mail) articles - both are well known for their anti-Scottish views.
I agree
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oh and i found an excellent comment on youtube
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rwwk3iJUn6g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rwwk3iJUn6g))
'Yes, Scotland has all of the things you mentioned but Scotland has an economy and a very good one at that. Edinburgh is the second most visited country in the the UK, Scotland controls North Sea Oil, 70% of the UK's tidal power, 25% of Europe's wind power, 25% of Europe's tidal power, 10% of Europe,s wave power. Did you know in 2008, London took £12.9 Billion from Scotland in oil and gas. That is the same as every scot giving away £2300 a year that shows we have a good economy'
somehow i cant see scotland going bust too soon, not with alex salmond in control
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A very good point Captain CalMac.
Did you see that Alex Salmond wants to create more green energy such as tidal power, wind power etc in Scotland? I think he's very canny as he must have realised Scotland's oil will probably run out in around 20 years time.
When that happens, there will be plenty of green energy infrastructure put in place already, and we'll be selling electricity to England. ;)
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I'm sure you're right, which is why I shall visit your lands to help campaign for your independence.
We all know that nationalist governments always look after their own people in the end and always have a happy ending.
Though I notice you failed dismally to address any of the historical points that I raised. Perhaps you are TOO wise and experienced to converse with me on it.
If it was as simple as you dullards think, ecosse would have gone ages back. But it isn't as simple as you think so it hasn't. I'm well and truly in favour of it. As long as you do not expect the barnett formula to be applied once you've gone then we're all happy.
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Judging by your attitude we would be better off going alone without any small-minded and bigoted views coming from England.
And I object you using the word 'dullards' to describe Scottish people, Stuart. It's offensive. >:(
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Look, I'm not the one that started it. Having had to live for years in the same house as scottish, I'm quite well qualified to comment on their bad attitude and "blame England for everything."
But quite frankly, I am not really interested in debating politics with children. So either button it or- if you want to be REALLY impressive. Go and read up on my above comments and learn the REASON for the AoU. Until you understand your history you can not understand the present. Do yourself a favour and learn a little. With a bit of experience (this will come with age) and some political/hostoric knowledge you might even be able to argue your point.
Only once you have answered those points!
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I'm quite well qualified to comment on their bad attitude and "blame England for everything."
That's like saying that because I'm Irish, I blame England for all of Ireland's problems over the years...
Although England's interferences in Ireland have been the root of the trouble in Ireland, that doesn't mean that I look at you and say that I should blame you for everything that has happened in Ireland.
One person is just as good as the next - Just because I'm Irish doesn't mean I dislike every Englishman I see, likewise, you shouldn't take every Scotsman that you see and say that he blames the Englishman for everything. I take people as I find them, not because of their nationality or race, even though I am probably quite entitled to point at England and start a mudslinging match.
The reason why there is still so much trouble between England and other nations is because of people who still bring up these old relations and prejudices. I have respect for you Stuart, as I do with everyone at this forum, but it highly frustrates me when people play the nationality card. I live in England, I get on fine with everyone. Just because England has historical grievances with my home country, doesn't mean I dislike every Englishman I see.
I am proud to be born in Ireland, but I am also just as proud to live here in this country, and to soon be part of Britain's Merchant Navy, and to serve this country with fellow Brits.
Jack.
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Hang on Jack, no one is talking about Ireland. I was not the one that started on scottish independence either, but that point seems to have been overlooked.
I am not sure what point you are making here, Jack. I have travelled around this planet enough times, can speak several languages and have friends in many countries (and I mean friends, not facebook contacts as with most people!).
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OK I think we have gone far enough with this now...
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Hang on Jack, no one is talking about Ireland. I was not the one that started on scottish independence either, but that point seems to have been overlooked.
I am not sure what point you are making here, Jack. I have travelled around this planet enough times, can speak several languages and have friends in many countries (and I mean friends, not facebook contacts as with most people!).
To me it doesn't really make a difference whether you're talking about Ireland or Scotland - the point I'm making is that I don't judge a nation of people based on a few people I dislike, or because of the past. The way I'm looking at this is from the view that I'm not from Britain, but I live in this country, and get along fine with the people here.
What if I were Scottish? I wouldn't 'blame Britain' for everything. The reason why I used my 'Irish' view point was because in my view, Ireland and Scotland share similar parallels, regarding their history with Britain. Hence I would imagine that many of the Scottish population would also share my 'neutral' viewpoint towards the British?
I have many Scottish friends, and have met many Scottish people, and to be quite honest, I find a lot of them to be very nice down to earth people. The ones who I met briefly probably thought I was English, as I speak with an English accent, but they didn't have a problem with me. Likewise, if I were English, why should I have a problem with them, as you seem to?
Like I said earlier, I have respect for you Stuart, but I really do hate it when this whole ordeal crops up with nationality. I have no problem with discussing things like this, but I hate it when it turns into a mudslinging match.
Jack.
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Agreed :)
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Oh Jack, calm down chap. If you actually bothered to read what I said, you would note that I am rather well travelled and have many genuine international PROPER friends.
Does that not make the point that your shaded accusation of 'racism' doesn't actually work?
I suggest that you go and read the whole thread from beginning to end as I wonder if you've just picked a few posts. I notice that since bringing the historic origins of the AoU to the attention of those two they have gone rather quiet.
You aren't stupid, Jack, so don't pretend to be. You know very well that I was baiting them (well deserved I might add) as I was hoping to get them to challenge their own pre-conceptions. You see the reality is that Scotland AND England are BOTH being led by groups who care not a rats backside for the people- only that they get power for the sake of it. There are many such people in Ireland like that too.
In fact, most Countries now seem to elect the people least suited to running a nation... With a population of 61,000,000 in Britain alone one would have thought we could do better than camoron/clogg/milibland/salmonellad and the rest of their self interested wastrels.
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Oh Jack, calm down chap. If you actually bothered to read what I said, you would note that I am rather well travelled and have many genuine international PROPER friends.
Does that not make the point that your shaded accusation of 'racism' doesn't actually work?
I suggest that you go and read the whole thread from beginning to end as I wonder if you've just picked a few posts. I notice that since bringing the historic origins of the AoU to the attention of those two they have gone rather quiet.
You aren't stupid, Jack, so don't pretend to be. You know very well that I was baiting them (well deserved I might add) as I was hoping to get them to challenge their own pre-conceptions. You see the reality is that Scotland AND England are BOTH being led by groups who care not a rats backside for the people- only that they get power for the sake of it. There are many such people in Ireland like that too.
In fact, most Countries now seem to elect the people least suited to running a nation... With a population of 61,000,000 in Britain alone one would have thought we could do better than camoron/clogg/milibland/salmonellad and the rest of their self interested wastrels.
I did bother to read what you said - I also bothered to read what you had said before that too. Maybe we have different interpretations as to what you said, but I think the majority of the forum would agree that your posts came across as simply being arrogant, whatever way you wish to explain it.
Maybe you were baiting them, and maybe you have a valid point when talking about the politicians who run our countries, but I have to be honest I think a lot of people would just look at your posts and find them quite ignorant, with nothing more to it.
I'm not pointing at you and saying you've started this (because someone else in particular got in a hissy fit and started mudslinging as well), but what I'm saying is is that if I were you, I would have let him carry on, simply because I would know better than to get on his level.
I understand the points you make in your posts, I can see what you're getting at, but why be so hostile about it?
Jack.
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Thinks the thread has gone far enough...
*Suggests getting out the padlock...
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On request i've locked this topic.
Also politics on the forum, does not realy work,it starts always very fine,however on the end it becomes a small war.
Sorry guy's.
Kind regards
Marc