Ship Simulator
English forum => Small talk => Topic started by: Capt. Matt on October 21, 2010, 21:58:36
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Hey Guys,
Well as the title says I'm currently in the process of building a new system. The things I have bought already I'll put in bold. However I'm not sure if I should go with liquid cooling or not. It's going to be a higher spec system but I'd like to hear what others think
Intel Core i7-860 Processor (8M Cache, 2.80 GHz)
Asus Motherboard
At least 6 GB of RAM
Nvidea card
and Im leaning towards the Antec 902 Ult. Gaming Case with a 750 Watt supply.
Matt
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Matt,
My experience tells me that water cooled systems are more expensive, more prone to accidents (water leak and a fried computer!), more hassle to setup and about as effective as a proper air cooled system.
I would stay away from a water cooled system, and guess what? The water is cooled by a fan anyway! Also, the money you spend on water cooling could be spent on better parts ;)
Processor sounds good anyway, I would personally go for an Nvidia Card, but ATI and Nvidia are about neck and neck I'd say.
Also, to keep the costs down if you want, buy 4GB RAM first, as you can always upgrade later if the mobo supports it ;)
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I agree with adam, stay away from liquid cooling, liquid and expensive computer parts dont mix too well ::) I'd always be worried about it leaking and ruining everything as adam said. Processor seems good, Nvidia seems good. 750w power supply should be good unless you get a really high end graphics card
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Hi just like to throw my 2 cents in - where do you i.e. in a hot climate? or will the PC be in a room between 5-28 Celsius if so a fan cool system is fine, and cheaper ;) but if you are going with 3G+ of RAM please please go with the 64bit windows version
Only because win 32bit can only handle 3G - it may see more but it will not use it - check out tom's harware.com for more info
have fun with the new beast :)
PS and if you are going a liquid cooler use liquid nitrogen hehe
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When I first heard of liquid cooling I couldn't really process (no pun intended) how it would work. As Keane said liquid and computer parts?! I just wondered what other's thought...anyone have suggestions on a high end card? And dont worry Grindlepol 64 bit's the way to go ;)
Matt
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Hi Capt. Matt....
Looks like you are getting a "beast" assembled there .......
You could check out this thread (which I had started) ...... http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php/topic,21228.0.html
Many forum members have shared their PC configs and a few are really high end ones ..... may assist you with yours. Hope it helps.
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Just remember the four basics....
1. There's no such thing as too much memory
2. There's no such thing as too big of a Hard Drive
3. There's no such thing as a processor that's too fast
4. There's no such thing as having too much video memory/speed
Jim
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To that 1) -> There can be too much memory if you're running 32bit system. When running 32bit OS with for example 16 gigabytes, all what you can use is 4GB. :)
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Why choose liquid cooling, when there are excellent other coolers..?
You can get a good silent fan cooler, or a passive cooler..
Also there are big differences in the different makes of graphic cards.. :)
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Thanks Vin_sun!
During my absence I forgot about the search button :doh: ::)
So does anyone have motherboard or graphics card recommendations?
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Hi Capt. Matt .....
That you've not specified your budget, here are a whole lot of motherboards suitable for an Intel Core i7 processor. In fact I narrowed down the search from a U.S. website called newegg.com. I am not a geek or a pro when it comes to computer hardware so I will not be able to pinpoint on a particular MoBo. But I would say avoid an Intel MoBo. You can consider a Gigabyte or an Asus.
As for the gfx cards, since you are considering Nvidia, here are some high end ones possibly the best from the Nvidia stable. ATI Radeon cards too are good. The ones shown in the PDF are also the high end ones. Needless to say, opt for a card which supports DirectX 11 ..... almost all new boards do it.
Please see the attached PDFs ..... hope it helps. Since the file is over 1 MB it will take a while to open.
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Hi again Capt. Matt ....
Would a $ 4000/- PC interest you ????
Yes, that is awfully expensive .... but check out the specs and it may give you a lead to choose certain components. As far as I know, Alienware is a well known name in gaming PCs.
You could also check out these websites for some guidance:-
http://www.build-gaming-computers.com/
http://service.futuremark.com/hardware/graphicsCardsList.action
Hope it helps in someway.
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Thanks vin_sun!
You've been a great help, I haven't checked out the pdf's yet, but I'm not too into ailenware, too expensive and I want something to do :P that's why I'm building one haha :thumbs:
And motherboard wise I wanted a wireless LAN motherboard by asus as I currently have a P5Q and am very pleased with it.
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Hello Matt....
Nice to learn that I've contributed a bit to your project.
I modified my second message a few minutes back and have suggested two websites. Please browse through them.
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I would've gone for the new hd 6870 from amd, two of them in crossfire. Or I would've wait for the new amd cards coming soon, for example one hd6950/hd6970. And then 4 gigs of RAM (1600 mHz) and a nice motherboard for 1156. :)
And I wouldn't go for any Antec cases, because most of them simply suck. A Fractaldesign R3 is a good choice, quiet and elegant.
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tip, dont play around too much, im building all i have is the case and PSU and I think i've already blown it up
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you can do all the playing around you want providing you have the knowledge to keep the components from being damaged ;) And i dont think you could have possibly blown anything up only having a case and a power supply
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you can do all the playing around you want providing you have the knowledge to keep the components from being damaged ;) And i dont think you could have possibly blown anything up only having a case and a power supply
well i heard a nice pop and saw a flash come out the back, so i dunno, i dont have the option to change it from 115v to 240v or what ever, so it must be automatic :/
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Please don't tell me that you plugged it in while it wasn't connected to anything? :)
If it was a decent power supply it shouldn't have gone bang, but usually a pop and a blue flash isn't a good sign.
The unit could be faulty however, so you might be able to get a replacement :)
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I did.. maybe i could try and send it back and say it never worked? :angel:
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I did.. maybe i could try and send it back and say it never worked? :angel:
Well let's just hope whoever you bought it from isn't a ship sim fan ;D
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hehehe, yea pops and blue flashes are never good with electrical items, unless its a flash bulb ::)
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Sending it back tomorrow :P
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Oh dear :P Well I think I'm going to go with the Antec Twelve hundred case.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0017KMI66/ref=asc_df_B0017KMI661292846?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=nextagus0000092-20&linkCode=asn&creative=395093&creativeASIN=B0017KMI66
And a radeon graphics card since the nvidia ones are expensive
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I'm going for ATI aswell..
This is the case I have
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/165238
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Good ol eBuyer, that's where we get most of our parts too :)
By the way, why do people buy expensive cases? You could save some money and buy better parts!
Besides, a case sits on the floor anyway most of the time :)
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i like looks aswell as whats under the hood
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So do I, but you can get some nice looking cases for about £30 :)
That means another £30 to get the next upgraded processor or something ;D
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the top i5 is good enough for me
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Or if you really wanted to save money...
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTNn5REFXPteJRldmlH0FmAgAZ4S8Q63rZ7Vaoa7fTdalRckYQ&t=1&usg=__89C1Ydf5YfQ8xoZj8TR_55oQgqM=)
Cardboard!
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dont think air could get to that much easier!
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Or if you really wanted to save money...
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTNn5REFXPteJRldmlH0FmAgAZ4S8Q63rZ7Vaoa7fTdalRckYQ&t=1&usg=__89C1Ydf5YfQ8xoZj8TR_55oQgqM=)
Cardboard!
I've had computers running like that, it's quite funny but I wouldn't recommend cardboard! :)
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Yay it's being picked up tomorrow :P
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Oh dear :P Well I think I'm going to go with the Antec Twelve hundred case.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0017KMI66/ref=asc_df_B0017KMI661292846?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=nextagus0000092-20&linkCode=asn&creative=395093&creativeASIN=B0017KMI66
And a radeon graphics card since the nvidia ones are expensive
Now that is quite an expensive case ::) are you going to use up all the room it has or are you just buying it cause it looks cool? If you're just buying it cause it looks cool i highly reccomend you reconsider getting a smaller cheaper case. As adam said there is no use spending all that money on a case. Buy what you need, not what you want. And as for the G-card, NVIDIA is expensive for a reason, they're very good quality cards which follows the old statement, "you get what you pay for" ;)
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If you want a cool Anteck case why mot go for this, chipper and you can bay a better graphic card instead
http://www.amazon.com/Antec-Nine-Hundred-Steel-Ultimate/dp/B000I5JHB0/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1288144390&sr=1-5
My self have this one, a weary silent case
http://www.amazon.com/Antec-Mini-P180-Case/dp/B001450OMO/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1288144615&sr=1-5
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Good day everyone!
I haven't been around much as I have been busy, but I have built my system.
Specs:
Intel Core i7 2.8GHz 8MB Cache
12GB of Kingston 1600MHz DDR3 RAM
Asus P6X58D-E Motherboard
ATI Radeon HD 5750 1GB DDR5 Graphics
and an Antec 902 Gaming case
Im awaiting the hard drive, windows 7, and Optical drive.
Matt
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Why on earth do you need 12GB of RAM...?
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Maybe he shall work in NASA with hes PC :doh:, hi most be loaded of money ;D
and maybe he can add more to, the mother board support up to 26GB
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=Asus+P6X58D-E+Motherboard&rls=com.microsoft:no:IE-SearchBox&oe=UTF-8&rlz=1I7GGLL_no&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=6977103899192927603&ei=lVv6TLijIoHqObzTtdUK&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CCQQ8wIwAg#
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Why on earth do you need 12GB of RAM...?
If your going to do it, may as well over do it ;)
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Typical Matt.. ;D
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You know it! :doh:
Oh I got a new camera by the way!
And I have a picture of the SI ferries mast lights for you
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Matt,
My experience tells me that water cooled systems are more expensive, more prone to accidents (water leak and a fried computer!), more hassle to setup and about as effective as a proper air cooled system.
I would stay away from a water cooled system, and guess what? The water is cooled by a fan anyway! Also, the money you spend on water cooling could be spent on better parts ;)
Processor sounds good anyway, I would personally go for an Nvidia Card, but ATI and Nvidia are about neck and neck I'd say.
Also, to keep the costs down if you want, buy 4GB RAM first, as you can always upgrade later if the mobo supports it ;)
dont get the water cooling system.
if the fan breaks you can replace the fan...
if the water cooling system breaks... good bye computer
also you will need the right version of Microsoft Windows...
as some are there just to change some things (like comands)
BUT you will need a full Version of Windows. also Microsoft Windows XP is discontinued and there is support till 2014. Vista is not to good. Windows 7 i will say as the support of the computer is longer and there will more years till there are not much software getting made for it.
good luck mind you
Captain cadet