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Title: Anyone else?
Post by: trains on August 17, 2010, 18:32:41
Has anyone else been recieving phone calls saying they've won a certain amount of money? We've been getting it for over 2 months and we were put on the do not call list. It's the most annoying thing ever. And also, they don't give up. They call back every five seconds and it's a different person. Worst of all, if you ask for their number, they'll say the number they called. So my mom ask and when he said the number, it was our house number. They don't care about the law either. They say the worst possible things to people.

Be careful out there. If you get a call saying you won two and a half million dollars (or what ever currency you use if it's world wide) it's a fraud. And the police can't do anything about it because they disconnect their numbers and use fake names.

What is the world coming to?  :-\ :'( :thumbdown:

Scott
Title: Re: Anyone else?
Post by: rennie on August 17, 2010, 18:33:56
i got emails about winning a bmw desighn comp and it said the complete rong thing never trust them
Title: Re: Anyone else?
Post by: Ralphy on August 17, 2010, 19:04:40
I always get emails from 'HSBC' claiming my account has had a security breach and i need to sign in to verify it was me

Strange becaue im 14 and i don't have a account with HSBC  :doh:

i went on the website and it was the same as the real site. when you clicked on any other links it would take you to the real website, apart from the sign in or create account links
Title: Re: Anyone else?
Post by: deltaecho on August 17, 2010, 19:06:43
ya i got an email from someone named support@apple.com, which wasnt actually apple and they said i recieved a $50 gift card. it was a virus. i called apple and they said they've been having that happen a lot
Title: Re: Anyone else?
Post by: rennie on August 17, 2010, 19:12:04
my mum has emails from apparent lloyds aswell so im glad we have anti virus
Title: Re: Anyone else?
Post by: Aad The Pirate on August 17, 2010, 19:42:32
I always get emails from 'HSBC' claiming my account has had a security breach and i need to sign in to verify it was me

Strange becaue im 14 and i don't have a account with HSBC  :doh:

i went on the website and it was the same as the real site. when you clicked on any other links it would take you to the real website, apart from the sign in or create account links
Ahoy Ralphy
Always check if the prefix is https instead of http and if the "padlock" is present on such websites. (see attachment)
If not, ignore them and close your browser immediatley. And NOT by clicking on the X top right but by using the Alt F4 key combination.
Kind Regards
Aad
Title: Re: Anyone else?
Post by: Ralphy on August 17, 2010, 19:50:47
if i ever buy anything online and i don't know if it's a real site then i always check that, why is it best to close useing alt f4? i havn't heard that one before
Title: Re: Anyone else?
Post by: Aad The Pirate on August 17, 2010, 20:08:16
Ahoy Ralphy
For those people who make that Phising Sites it's quite easy to alter the clickable areas of the site.
For instance:
If there is a pop up-box asking you to accept or denie (or Yes or No) clicking on denie (or No) could be altered to read accept (or Yes).
The little x to close that pop-up box could be altered to read accept too.
By closing that pop-up box or the whole site by using the Alt F4 key combination passes bye those clicks and do only what you want to do: Close and get rid of it.
Kind Regards
Aad the Pirate
Title: Re: Anyone else?
Post by: Ralphy on August 17, 2010, 20:15:08
i understand they can do it with pop ups but what about an actual web page?
Title: Re: Anyone else?
Post by: Aad The Pirate on August 17, 2010, 20:44:27
That little x on the top-right corner can be linked to anything you don't want to do. Even opening a dishonest site can give you a lot of trouble, and the longer you stay on that site, the bigger the trouble could be.
Even hi-jacking your computer's files is a possibility.
Meaning that they infect your computer and the only way to clean up is to buy a quite expensief clean-up program from those people.
Or, off course, formatting your computer and loose all your files/programs etc. etc.
You can't be cautious enough those days. Alas.
Title: Re: Anyone else?
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on August 17, 2010, 21:33:24
Hi Scott,

We used to get calls like that every so often. Or ones such as "You've won a free holiday blah blah blah".

My dad used to pick it up and tell them something which I won't repeat here...it usually worked!! :lol:

Jack.
Title: Re: Anyone else?
Post by: Ralphy on August 17, 2010, 21:45:12
Jack
That dosn't really work if it's a computer that phones you  :doh:

recently we have been getting them about how all the banks may have sold us payment protection insurance that we dont know don't need or didn't even know about  ;D
Title: Re: Anyone else?
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on August 17, 2010, 21:47:01
That dosn't really work if it's a computer that phones you  :doh:

Dad still says it anyway and slams the phone down :lol:

We've never had them call back LOL
Title: Re: Anyone else?
Post by: trains on August 17, 2010, 21:50:00
Hi Scott,

We used to get calls like that every so often. Or ones such as "You've won a free holiday blah blah blah".

My dad used to pick it up and tell them something which I won't repeat here...it usually worked!! :lol:

Jack.

Hey Jack,

Well I wish that worked for me. We've tried everything. But they keep calling back. We even called the police and nothing. I just wish it would end

Scott
Title: Re: Anyone else?
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on August 17, 2010, 22:03:08
The police haven't done anything? I would keep demanding until they get something done. They're nuisance calls...so surely they cannot be allowed? There must be something they can do to trace the calls? What about getting in touch with your provider?

Jack.
Title: Re: Anyone else?
Post by: Ralphy on August 17, 2010, 22:06:42
A quick look at my junk inbox has found this:
Title: Re: Anyone else?
Post by: Aad The Pirate on August 17, 2010, 22:27:56
@ Ralphy,
And that, my friend, is an example of a phishing Mail.
You see that address? Nothing about https, but only http , a clear example of a not secured site.
When you're dumb enough to log-in at that "site" and give them the details they are asking for, well, be sure that your bank-account will read $ 0,00 before you can say: "Where is my money gone to?"
If you are no 'client' of that 'firm' send a copy of that mail including the header etc  to any legal authority, and never, really never contact the sender by yourself.
Title: Re: Anyone else?
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 17, 2010, 22:29:11
Amen to that!
Title: Re: Anyone else?
Post by: trains on August 17, 2010, 22:31:13
The police haven't done anything? I would keep demanding until they get something done. They're nuisance calls...so surely they cannot be allowed? There must be something they can do to trace the calls? What about getting in touch with your provider?

Jack.

The police can't do anything as we don't have a number or any real names to give. And we said we wanted to be put on the do not call list. Guess that was ignored.

Scott
Title: Re: Anyone else?
Post by: saltydog on August 17, 2010, 22:33:09
I'm unsure about the http/https issue..As I typ this and look at the address bar of this forum, it begins with http.. :)
Title: Re: Anyone else?
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 17, 2010, 22:37:30
Yup here it is http.. but most banks and other companies that deal with money transfers and such important personal details that come into play, are on a secured version..  

So they have the enhanced http protocol with the 'secure' added to it.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Anyone else?
Post by: Ralphy on August 17, 2010, 22:38:23
this forum dosn't need a https because it dosn't sell anything, if you go on to Shipsim.com and order something it is under https.

i always forward the phishing emails to my mums freind because he is a online security expert or something along those lines

edit: did i know something fred didn't, sort of...im so proud  ::)
Title: Re: Anyone else?
Post by: saltydog on August 17, 2010, 23:13:57
Only joking.. ;)  Usually, when I get mails I don't trust, I don't open the message and block the sender..
That way all future mails from that address go straight in the bin.. :)
Title: Re: Anyone else?
Post by: trains on August 17, 2010, 23:30:29
Well I just got off the phone with one of those guys again, and I think he called me a rude name that begins with an a. He pronounces every name here wrong.

Scott
Title: Re: Anyone else?
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 17, 2010, 23:46:57
edit: did i know something fred didn't, sort of...im so proud  ::)

Why, was my answer not accurate enough?   :P  ;D

No reason to be proud mate, I'm really not that knowledgable.. there's so very much I don't know.. you simply don't wanna know!!  ;D

And Scott..  'Apple user' ??  Now thát is rude!!!!  :evil:

Title: Re: Anyone else?
Post by: Ralphy on August 17, 2010, 23:57:35
 ;D i would have thought you would have known that on shipsim.com it was https. i suppose nobody is perfect, not even scott, that apple user  ::) (is that appropriate for the forum? i guess it is but remove it if it isn't)
Title: Re: Anyone else?
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 18, 2010, 00:04:04
Well sure.. it's been like that on the old site too. But if it makes you feel proud, then I didn't know that!  :P  ;D

Most sites use the https protocol when it comes down to purchasing something.

But you'll notice that it's only when you go to make a purchase, not for the rest of the site. It's pretty normal as far as my experience goes.  :thumbs:

 
 
Title: Re: Anyone else?
Post by: trains on August 18, 2010, 00:33:35
Well now, if I was an "Apple user" would I be running SS06 and SS08? :P

Scott
Title: Re: Anyone else?
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 18, 2010, 01:26:09
Nope, true.. you would not... cause you wouldn't have time, you'd be to busy telling everyone how superior Apple computers are.  ;D
Title: Re: Anyone else?
Post by: trains on August 18, 2010, 02:02:34
I don't even like the Apples since I can't run Ship Simulator :P

Scott