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English forum => Ship Simulator 2008 => Topic started by: trains on August 25, 2007, 07:28:03

Title: SS08 Titanic
Post by: trains on August 25, 2007, 07:28:03
does anyone think the titanic in ship sim 08 is better than ship sm 06 ???
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: bowie on August 25, 2007, 12:49:27
yeah its a lot better graphically in my opinion (minus the bugs and glitches). the deck looks way more realistic than before  :)
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: Jackal on August 25, 2007, 12:58:38
Hasn't anyone noticed that the flag is reversed?  :)

(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9520/2007aug25001xc5.jpg)

Ciao,

  Corrado
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: Mr Robville on August 25, 2007, 17:37:15
yeah i noticed  ;D
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: Hudizzle on August 25, 2007, 23:02:52
There's something I'd like to know about that flag...

I noticed that it's not always flying/raised. Why? How Do I get it to show up? When does it show up?
The flag always shows up on the Red Jet 4, but not the Titanic  :o

It's on the ship here...
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j68/hudizzle17/Shipsim2008_082007224521_632.jpg)

But it's not raised here...
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j68/hudizzle17/Shipsim2008_082007213926_552.jpg)

I'm also wondering when they will put the "Titanic, Liverpool" marking under the fantail  :D
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: trains on August 29, 2007, 02:12:22
thats wierd
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: Ship Sim on August 29, 2007, 07:34:50
I think it will come in a patch. ;)
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: trains on August 30, 2007, 01:36:12
here are some pictures of the titanic.
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: fishlikelong on August 31, 2007, 16:30:31
How did you get the Titanic to Sink?
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: Maik on August 31, 2007, 16:42:21
To be honoust I never saw a flag ???

I always thought there wasn't suppost to be a flag. But seeing these screens! I never saw a flag on my titanic!!
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: trains on September 01, 2007, 02:52:38
i didnt do anything, the ship just sank cause of the bug
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: Kraftnuss on September 01, 2007, 15:58:14
After arriving the Atlantik (mission, after 1st waypoint) the Titanic was invisible.
I saw the smoke and the waves, but not the ship between.
 >:(
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: daveislander on September 02, 2007, 12:07:02
My Flag does that too....... But when we have a ship that I can sail onto a Car park,, Has a habit of showing nothing but smoke, or support cables.. sinks or simply disappears.. then a missing flag is a very minor bug IMO... I DO hope the update will fix the Titanic...I have never once managed to even pull away from Southampton before it mounts the Car park or just goes invisible... Perhaps its really a Ghost ship???????
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: fishlikelong on September 02, 2007, 18:16:26
I managed to get it to pull away from the docks. I've never had any problems with the Titanic besides the fact it takes AAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS to move in Southampton
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: Junp on September 02, 2007, 23:42:02
I got my SS08 of ebay and the Titanic and some parts on other ships do not load properly. The titanic loads with no walls so the windows float and theres no chimneys and no barriers! sometimes no floors. Please can anyone help as this is a annoying problem and I have all the right requirments (Cant spell) and drivers and grathics card is up to date, Please can someone help!
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: Cruiseman3211 on September 03, 2007, 01:53:12
To tell you the truth i like the Titanic in Ship Sim 06 better. It just seems more responsive and has much quicker acceleration.

EDIT: Junp can you please list your system specs please :). If you dont know how just go ahead and click Start then Run then type in Dxdiag click the Display tab and please tell us what it says under Device, and Name.
Thanks :)
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 03, 2007, 05:40:59
Technical support cannot be offered outside the technical support area, thanks all :)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: Cruiseman3211 on September 04, 2007, 00:49:10
Aw so sorry DJM. Wont happen again. junp I PMed you anyways.
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: [RWP]DJM on September 04, 2007, 08:22:55
Aw so sorry DJM. Wont happen again. junp I PMed you anyways.

No need to apologise :)

We figured out his problem in the Technical Support board, so not to worry eh ;)

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: trains on September 05, 2007, 01:14:49
some more pics ;)
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: trains on September 05, 2007, 01:15:23
 :'(
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: shipfan55 on September 05, 2007, 01:19:12
:'(
You've posted that picture in almost every picture topic i can find. :(
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: trains on September 05, 2007, 01:22:59
i haven't posted the others at the top yet and i wanted to show what happened in order.
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: trains on September 05, 2007, 03:38:32
hey guys sorry about that last pic. i tried to hit on the side but the ship had to turn harder than it should have. i was trying to recreate the story but it was too late.
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: Mr Robville on September 06, 2007, 14:35:19
it is only a bit shame, that you have to steer a long way before netering the icebergs, but when the patch releases, i will place tons of icebergs!  ;D
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: mcivcik on September 06, 2007, 22:31:10
heyyy i cant see TITANIC'S lights on the windows in Nigt!
!
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: groennegaard on September 06, 2007, 22:36:42
heyyy i cant see TITANIC'S lights on the windows in Nigt!
!

That is because the window lights aren't made yet and they will not be in the v1.1 update either...  ;) But the lights might come in a later version.

Regards
groennegaard
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: Captain Spencer on September 06, 2007, 23:05:46
That is because the window lights aren't made yet and they will not be in the v1.1 update either...  ;) But the lights might come in a later version.

Regards
groennegaard

Pity, she would look fabulous all lit up. As long as VSTEP manage to do it at some point  :)
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: trains on September 07, 2007, 00:57:17
that would be cool.
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: Third Mate on September 27, 2007, 06:14:43
If anybody does not mind if i bring up a little subject to this matter. After putting on the patch that allows ships to sink and also adds the two new ships, on the Titanic my horn is busted, in another words i cannot hear it. Now im just wondering has anyone else have a similar problem? ???
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: Fred 12 on January 10, 2008, 02:03:10
What do you mean the decks look more real?
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: Mad_Fred on January 10, 2008, 08:45:57
If you are going to bump an old thread and refer to a post made more than a page ago, please make sure you quote the person you are asking a question to and that it's worth bumping in the first place.

I would think by more real.. he meant..  more real...  better than before... closer to reality.. nicer.. prettier..  etc.

Regards,
Fred

Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: oly on February 05, 2008, 19:26:33
There's something I'd like to know about that flag...

I noticed that it's not always flying/raised. Why? How Do I get it to show up? When does it show up?
The flag always shows up on the Red Jet 4, but not the Titanic  :o

It's on the ship here...
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j68/hudizzle17/Shipsim2008_082007224521_632.jpg)

But it's not raised here...
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j68/hudizzle17/Shipsim2008_082007213926_552.jpg)

I'm also wondering when they will put the "Titanic, Liverpool" marking under the fantail  :D
Like This, I Did It Myself.
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: trains on February 06, 2008, 02:27:41
how did you do that? did you copy my technique?
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: oly on February 07, 2008, 01:45:06
how did you do that? did you copy my technique?

No I Used the Microsoft paint program  :P :P

In The Game Itself that name does not appear,
does it with your technique or not,
i would like to know???

(by the way whats your technique?)

friendly greetings Goossens Oly
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: trains on February 07, 2008, 01:50:30
No I Used the Microsoft paint program  :P :P

In The Game Itself that name does not appear,
does it with your technique or not,
i would like to know???

(by the way whats your technique?)

friendly greetings Goossens Oly
i mean putting out the anchors and switching areas in free roam.
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: Third Mate on March 25, 2008, 04:47:27
does anyone think the titanic in ship sim 08 is better than ship sm 06 ???

SS08 Titanic has showed a spectacular improvement from the SS06 one, but however.I have provided a vide below to show everybody that SS08 titanic is missing,well not missing but when you looks at it from the outside and you switch to the controls, like every ship it has the modern throttle, so WHY doesn't the SS08 titanic has a telegraph instead of a moder throttle while viewing the controls  ???

So here is what i mean http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVw0t08gOMc&feature=related you can see that at 2 min and 20 sec during the movie also are 2  screen shots to support my answer.
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: mvsmith on March 26, 2008, 04:21:03
The external engine controls were changed in 2008 to make it easier for players to operate the ship. The need to flip the controls in 2006 was confusing for some, and awkward for those who wanted to use the mouse to control the engines individually.
Marty
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: Third Mate on March 26, 2008, 07:46:27
If anybody does not mind if i bring up a little subject to this matter. After putting on the patch that allows ships to sink and also adds the two new ships, on the Titanic my horn is busted, in another words i cannot hear it. Now im just wondering has anyone else have a similar problem? ???


Great news its fixed now also here's a great listen to the one found in her wreck  :).

http://members.tripod.com/~MaryJanesTitanic/whistle1.wav  Dead link aperantly something happened to the website  :-X
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: Third Mate on March 27, 2008, 07:47:58
The external engine controls were changed in 2008 to make it easier for players to operate the ship. The need to flip the controls in 2006 was confusing for some, and awkward for those who wanted to use the mouse to control the engines individually.
Marty


Hmm....i see, i don't know why but im kind of still against the idea of it.I know it can get a little confusing but, if you think about it it kind of ruins the ship a little bit, because i mean imagine Titanic  with 21 Century Controls, the way i imagine it was the whole thing was original, even the External controls too, so it will make it more of a realistic simulation to operate her, adds a challenge to this ship to see who can can manage to sail the RMS Titanic with her original controls just the way she was and who still needs more sea training ;).And sure still leave the mouse to control the engines, nothing wrong with that :).
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: mvsmith on March 27, 2008, 09:24:25
Third Mate,
You have fixated on perhaps the least important of Titanic’s controls. The planned use for Titanic was for her to spend almost all of her time at sea with the engines at full ahead.
The engine controls were actually irrelevant in the final minute of her life. Although Murdoch’s actions are questionable on theoretical grounds, nothing could have been done with the engines that would have changed the outcome.

In the 40 seconds from the time the berg was sighted, the engines were not capable of significantly reducing her speed. There was no way for her to avoid collision because the steam-operated steering engine required 30 seconds to put the rudder hard over. Even if her bow had cleared the berg, a port around would have required another 60 seconds to move the rudder to the starboard hard stop.

The first four hours of the T2 mission are run at a constant ahead full. How is realism enhanced by having an engine room telegraph floating in the air behind the ship?
If you want to control the engines with a proper telegraph, you can use the one at the port end of the maneuvering bridge.
Marty
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: Third Mate on March 27, 2008, 10:32:19
mvsmith,

you make a good point indeed :), and awfully tragic information to :-\,sometimes wish i could go back in time (April 13, 1912 at 11.00 am as a Chief officer in nice uniform and walking the decks of a legendary ocean liner,feeling the fresh sea air and being at the helm of the Titanic) to change to way of the future and to sail on the Royal Mail Steamer ::).Well, i guess your right, but i wonder what other members think of the idea?

http://208.53.158.138/soundtracks/homeworld-soundtrack-redbook-/xorsbhkcfk/02-adagio-for-strings.mp3

Oh yeah, i found some music,feel free to listen to it, quite gentle and peaceful, il you are thinking of relaxing a bit eh?
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: Person264 on March 27, 2008, 16:31:24
Third Mate,
You have fixated on perhaps the least important of Titanic’s controls. The planned use for Titanic was for her to spend almost all of her time at sea with the engines at full ahead.
The engine controls were actually irrelevant in the final minute of her life. Although Murdoch’s actions are questionable on theoretical grounds, nothing could have been done with the engines that would have changed the outcome.

In the 40 seconds from the time the berg was sighted, the engines were not capable of significantly reducing her speed. There was no way for her to avoid collision because the steam-operated steering engine required 30 seconds to put the rudder hard over.

I heard somewhere that you weren't supposed to steer away from an iceberg, just go straight ahead so as not to make a big hole down the side, like you go head first into a wave, I may be wrong.
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: mvsmith on March 27, 2008, 17:07:05
Bruce Ismay floated that theory just after the disaster. Others with little understanding of physics have picked it up. The idea was that by taking the hit on the bow, only the first two or three compartments would have been compromised, and she would have remained afloat.
To have stopped the ship short of crumpling the fourth compartment would have required a deceleration—G force—that would have sent tableware and people against bulkheads with considerable damage to both.
The ship would most likely have gone down from the buckling of the plates on the other compartments, and the mess caused by her reciprocating engines travelling forward.
Marty
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: Captain Spencer on March 27, 2008, 21:09:47
Hehe I like Adagio for strings. I have the full version and a trance version. Very good song :)
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: phil ciborowski on March 28, 2008, 02:31:00
my biggest gripe for the titanic in the program is that the detail vanishes as you get further away... With the level of detail in the surrounding world, this shouldnt be at all..

but the ship is an amazing representation- better than we had in the past in games like Titanic- an adventure out of time.
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: Captain Spencer on March 28, 2008, 03:09:09
Phil,

The reason the details appear to reduce as you zoom out is so that lower end pc's can handle ship sim a lot easier. If all details we shown all of the time you would be running the game at about 4-5 FPS. You have to take these kinds of things into consideration when developing a game such as Ship Simulator 08.

Regards,
Adam
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: phil ciborowski on March 28, 2008, 05:19:12
Im aware of that consideration, but it should be in the graphic options, how far away you see the ship detail.

Its not a major distraction but it is just something that  bothers me about this ship especially because of all the detail in it.
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: Third Mate on March 28, 2008, 09:27:41
Hehe I like Adagio for strings. I have the full version and a trance version. Very good song :)


wow the whole thing, it must sound awsum  :)
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: Captain Spencer on March 28, 2008, 14:03:00

wow the whole thing, it must sound awsum  :)

Which one? Classical or trance version? I must admit, when DJ Tiesto did it live it sounded awesome! There's also a faster version than the trance one, but that probably a little too fast :)

Not for me though, I like fast trance ;D
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: zach8892 on March 28, 2008, 14:05:26
no not really i think it does look better and i like going to the back of the ship but it slows down the game beside ;Ds that is is sweat
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: Third Mate on March 28, 2008, 23:57:07
Hello everybody,

Just wanted to point out some sort of bug or whatever it is again. It is located on the titanic right at the bow,it really ruins the ship when i look at it from the bow.That blue/light blue kind of hole.And it seems that it was ignored when the patches 1.0, 1.1 and 1.3. So i was wondering if it could be fixed sometime soon.

Sincerely,


Third Mate.
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: Captain Spencer on March 29, 2008, 00:31:15
Hello everybody,

Just wanted to point out some sort of bug or whatever it is again. It is located on the titanic right at the bow,it really ruins the ship when i look at it from the bow.That blue/light blue kind of hole.And it seems that it was ignored when the patches 1.0, 1.1 and 1.3. So i was wondering if it could be fixed sometime soon.

Sincerely,


Third Mate.

I have a feeling it's supposed to be there. Some sort of anchor chain I think
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: Third Mate on March 29, 2008, 04:27:35
I have a feeling it's supposed to be there. Some sort of anchor chain I think

Hmm...i don't remember that being there, im going to try make this matter stand out.Here's what i remeber it looked like.
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: Captain Spencer on March 29, 2008, 04:37:49
Hmm...i don't remember that being there, im going to try make this matter stand out.Here's what i remeber it looked like.

It's on the photo as well? Can't you see it?
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: Third Mate on March 29, 2008, 05:59:26
It's on the photo as well? Can't you see it?
That whole area is black whit a bit or light gray, there's no blue there what so ever :o.
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: sixflagscoasters on March 29, 2008, 06:05:03
I believe the hole on the Titanic's nose is for the Center Anchor. The center anchor which would have been rarely used. And I don't think it was ever used on any of the 3 Olympic class ships.


The center anchor needed to be lifted up by a manual crane/pulley system, then lowered over the side of the ship. The center anchor was very heavy. The anchor would probably be never used (or maybe 1 or 2 times its life) This is why they probably did not give the center anchor a better crane system to move it. Because they new it would be a waste of time and money.


But I am not sure. please correct me if I am wrong.


Also I thought that the hole in the bow nose was a spot where a head light would go, but I don't think there was ever a light in that spot. But again I am not sure.


I do think it was for the center anchor.
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: Captain Spencer on March 29, 2008, 13:02:44
That whole area is black whit a bit or light gray, there's no blue there what so ever :o.

That's because it's a black and white photo :D
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: Third Mate on March 30, 2008, 06:40:33
That's because it's a black and white photo :D

here we are  colour  ;) pictures.
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: pauljanaway1 on May 17, 2008, 11:06:27
also the controls are wrong on the bridge half speed is 94%. half speed should be 50% but on the bridge the controls read slow ahead. stand by move the ship. in ship simulator 2006 they had the right controls
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: Third Mate on May 25, 2008, 11:11:12
I have found the Titanic, and it is made in google sketch up  :o, it looks 100000% Professional, YOU MUST HAVE A LOOK :o  :o :o!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YlMIvfUC4cc&NR=1
Title: Re: SS08 Titanic
Post by: Titanicboss on June 02, 2008, 11:59:49
i bought 2008 last week and i tryed the titanic and the main rails on the bow are misng and i end up faling other board in walk mode and aswell no smoke comes out of my chiminys other then that its awsome i liek the fact of the second calss staircase be nice to see more features added thow.
 
I found that it takes the titanic ages to get into speed to the point were your dieing of boardom i like the fact you have to navigate deep and shallow water my first time i grounded the titanic and she sustanide damage and my 2nd time i ramed her into the iceberg but managed to regreate the legendary voyage as she swung at the last minite and scraped but sank weired