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Title: The greatest Titanic movie, EVER!!!!
Post by: saken41 on August 13, 2007, 13:10:22
Titanic - A Night To Remember (1958) is the best in my option :), even if I haven't seen the whole movie, I have seen the trailer on YouTube :). Then I saw how GREAT the movie was!
Title: Re: The greatest Titanic movie, EVER!!!!
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 13, 2007, 15:44:09
It's ok, I saw it a long time ago and thought it was average.  I still prefer the James Cameron movie, but I am a fan of Cameron anyway :D

The Abyss, Terminator.....to name 2 of his movies ;D

If Stu calls me sad, I may need to get my BIG gun again ;) :P

Regards.

DJM.
Title: Re: The greatest Titanic movie, EVER!!!!
Post by: saken41 on August 13, 2007, 15:46:36
It's ok, I saw it a long time ago and thought it was average.  I still prefer the James Cameron movie, but I am a fan of Cameron anyway :D

The Abyss, Terminator.....to name 2 of his movies ;D

If Stu calls me sad, I may need to get my BIG gun again ;) :P

Regards.

DJM.
:D, sounds GREAT!
Title: Re: The greatest Titanic movie, EVER!!!!
Post by: andy_m on August 13, 2007, 17:25:17
It's ok, I saw it a long time ago and thought it was average.  I still prefer the James Cameron movie, but I am a fan of Cameron anyway :D

The Abyss, Terminator.....to name 2 of his movies ;D

If Stu calls me sad, I may need to get my BIG gun again ;) :P

Regards.

DJM.

I'll back you up on that one mate, dont worry!  ;D

Regards,
Andy
Title: Re: The greatest Titanic movie, EVER!!!!
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 13, 2007, 19:23:48
I'll back you up on that one mate, dont worry!  ;D

Regards,
Andy

 8) Thanks ;D
Title: Re: The greatest Titanic movie, EVER!!!!
Post by: Stuart2007 on August 13, 2007, 21:52:44
If Stu calls me sad, I may need to get my BIG gun again ;) :P

Sad.
Title: Re: The greatest Titanic movie, EVER!!!!
Post by: Stuart2007 on August 13, 2007, 21:53:07
I'll back you up on that one mate, dont worry!  ;D

Sad.
Title: Re: The greatest Titanic movie, EVER!!!!
Post by: [RWP]DJM on August 13, 2007, 23:02:07
LOL, just call me Mr. Mind Reader :P
Title: Re: The greatest Titanic movie, EVER!!!!
Post by: andy_m on August 13, 2007, 23:13:17
Sad.

Why I 'oughta!
If you werent a moderator.....  :P

Regards,
Andy
Title: Re: The greatest Titanic movie, EVER!!!!
Post by: Ship Sim on August 14, 2007, 06:13:03
LOL, just call me Mr. Mind Reader :P
HA HA! :D Funny
Title: Re: The greatest Titanic movie, EVER!!!!
Post by: saken41 on August 14, 2007, 09:53:57
The A Night To Remember (1958) was black & white if I'm not wrong :-\...
Title: Re: The greatest Titanic movie, EVER!!!!
Post by: Orinoco on August 14, 2007, 12:12:46
Titanic - A Night To Remember (1958) is the best in my option :), even if I haven't seen the whole movie, I have seen the trailer on YouTube :). Then I saw how GREAT the movie was!

I agree, it's my favourite Titanic film too. A couple of inaccuracies of course - but that's only because they didn't know back then what we know now.

All in all, a fantastic film - not quite as dramatic and not as many special effects - but then there's 40 years and a huge budget separating the two films.
Title: Re: The greatest Titanic movie, EVER!!!!
Post by: saken41 on August 14, 2007, 13:19:40
I agree, it's my favourite Titanic film too. A couple of inaccuracies of course - but that's only because they didn't know back then what we know now.

All in all, a fantastic film - not quite as dramatic and not as many special effects - but then there's 40 years and a huge budget separating the two films.

Same favorite Titanic movie :D, thanks for the reply, Orinoco :)!
Title: Re: The greatest Titanic movie, EVER!!!!
Post by: saken41 on August 15, 2007, 00:53:13
I will never forget Murdoch's look in "Titanic - A Night To Remember" (1958) when he saw Titanic approaching the iceberg...

He looked just like this: :o
Title: Re: The greatest Titanic movie, EVER!!!!
Post by: shipfan55 on August 15, 2007, 00:55:13
ooh,pretty iceberg  :o ! lets hit it so we can sink and kill 1500 + passengers and save only 705!thats what mr murdoch did when he orderer hard a starboard and full astern.just sad,sad,conducting of a ships course.
Title: Re: The greatest Titanic movie, EVER!!!!
Post by: saken41 on August 15, 2007, 00:57:29
ooh,pretty iceberg  :o ! lets hit it so we can sink and kill 1500 + passengers and save only 705!thats what mr murdoch did when he orderer hard a starboard and full astern.just sad,sad,conducting of a ships course.

I think Murdoch was scared to death when he saw that iceberg, IT WAS HUGE!!!
Title: Re: The greatest Titanic movie, EVER!!!!
Post by: shipfan55 on August 15, 2007, 00:58:39
i wouldve not cared for myself,i wouldve cared about the passengers,i would monitor every life boat going donw,not letting them leave with,li,ke,12 ppl.
Title: Re: The greatest Titanic movie, EVER!!!!
Post by: saken41 on August 15, 2007, 01:02:22
i wouldve not cared for myself,i wouldve cared about the passengers,i would monitor every life boat going donw,not letting them leave with,li,ke,12 ppl.

If I were Murdoch when he saw the iceberg, I would NOT have resersed the engines, I would STOP the engines and turn the helm maximum to port, then I think she (Titanic) would clear the iceberg easily :).
Title: Re: The greatest Titanic movie, EVER!!!!
Post by: shipfan55 on August 15, 2007, 02:03:59
leave her on full ahead and turn max hard a starboard.dont stop,that cuts flow off rudder
Title: Re: The greatest Titanic movie, EVER!!!!
Post by: saken41 on August 15, 2007, 02:07:22
leave her on full ahead and turn max hard a starboard.dont stop,that cuts flow off rudder

That was a good idea :), keep full ahead and turn maximum to port? Yes, that would do it :)! Wonder why Murdoch didn't do that ????

1. Sees iceberg

2. Turn's helm maximum to port

3. Keeps engines full ahead

4. Clears iceberg :D

Like this :-\?
Title: Re: The greatest Titanic movie, EVER!!!!
Post by: shipfan55 on August 15, 2007, 02:08:28
wonder what happened if e turn right...
Title: Re: The greatest Titanic movie, EVER!!!!
Post by: saken41 on August 15, 2007, 08:28:53
wonder what happened if e turn right...

Would probably clear the iceberg, or, crash into it? No, they would make it :).
Title: Re: The greatest Titanic movie, EVER!!!!
Post by: Orinoco on August 15, 2007, 13:05:44
i wouldve not cared for myself,i wouldve cared about the passengers,i would monitor every life boat going donw,not letting them leave with,li,ke,12 ppl.

How can you possibly monitor EVERY lifeboat? Besides, the initial logic (so it is reckoned) was to load the lifeboats relatively empty so that they could pick survivors out of the water.

At least the passengers had a chance of getting off - some immigrant workers such as kitchen staff were locked in so they couldn't get out - condemned to die.

Quote from: shipfan55
leave her on full ahead and turn max hard a starboard.dont stop,that cuts flow off rudder

The Titanic had approximately 37 seconds before impact. A similar experiment conducted on Olympic after the incident showed that the Titanic had about enough time to turn 2 points - regardless of engine status.
Title: Re: The greatest Titanic movie, EVER!!!!
Post by: Stuart2007 on September 11, 2007, 11:06:51
Or since the centre prop provided much of the water going over the rudder, which depended on waste steam from the outer props, why not run the port engine astern and the starboard ahead (leaving the starboard engine going would provide steam to keep the centre prop turning).

As for Murdoch, I seem to recall that he was hailed as a hero, giving his life for his passengers and crew. Despite the scene in that awful cameron film, there is no evidence that Murdoch murdered anyone.

And as for his professional action before the impact- perhaps he expected the lookouts do be doing their jobs properly rather than giving him less than a minutes notice to turn 45000+ tonnes of iron out the way. And as Orinoco says, once it was that close all they could do was to try and minimise the impact to try and keep the ship afloat.

Stu