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English forum => Small talk => Topic started by: bdomi2 on August 10, 2009, 11:47:39

Title: titanic lifeboats
Post by: bdomi2 on August 10, 2009, 11:47:39
can you use the life boats on the titanic on ship sim 2008 if you cant i think they should make a mod were you can lower them and row away when the ship sinks or at any time
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: Wave Music on August 10, 2009, 11:50:59
Not in the SS08.
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: Tor Einar on August 10, 2009, 12:03:04
Yes, It would be fun to use the lifeboats when the ship sinks, but then they have to
make SSE a mod there you can use ALL lifeboats on the playerships usable! :-\
And... I dont think they did that.... :-\

But youll have to wait an see. ;)

                                                Tor Einar :captain:
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: VirtualSkipper on August 15, 2009, 18:19:59
I think 1 or 2 is enough  ;)
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 15, 2009, 20:01:39
What about players that like the other ships?

Me for one NEVER use titanic, it is far to slow, and I have no relationship with it.
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: RMS Gigantic on August 15, 2009, 21:56:37
Me for one NEVER use titanic, it is far to slow
So you never use any of the cargo ships, the P6, the Furie, the Elbe, the Jumbo Javelin, the tugs, the RPA12, the historical yacht, the Red Eagle, the Ocean Star, or the Pride of Rotterdam, either?

P.S.: You mean, "I, for one, ..."

I constantly use the Titanic, but was never a fan of the "launching boats off of larger ones in Ship Simulator" idea. I would hate to leave the ship abandoned!

I am always a fan of more detail, though!
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: RMS Lusitania on August 16, 2009, 13:01:21
I think that Titanic is spirit of whole game.
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: Captain Darling on August 16, 2009, 13:05:30
So you never use any of the cargo ships, the P6, the Furie, the Elbe, the Jumbo Javelin, the tugs, the RPA12, the historical yacht, the Red Eagle, the Ocean Star, or the Pride of Rotterdam, either?

P.S.: You mean, "I, for one, ..."

I constantly use the Titanic, but was never a fan of the "launching boats off of larger ones in Ship Simulator" idea. I would hate to leave the ship abandoned!

I am always a fan of more detail, though!
I agree with Austin, I do think VSTEP should axe Titanic from SS Extremes, there are alot more useful ships to learn and navigate with.

And you never know.. We won't have anymore annoying and rather pointless topics about this and that missing from the titanic model..


Finally, I think Austin means the slow responsiveness, not the actual top speed of the thing. :-\
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: Wave Music on August 16, 2009, 13:19:44
I agree with Austin, I do think VSTEP should axe Titanic from SS Extremes, there are alot more useful ships to learn and navigate with.

And you never know.. We won't have anymore annoying and rather pointless topics about this and that missing from the titanic model..

I couldn't agree more! :thumbs:
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: Minime on August 16, 2009, 13:52:45
But then the forum would be flooded with angry titanic fans, making topics about adding the ship back, but I couldn't care any less if the ship was eliminated from the sim.
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: Captain Darling on August 16, 2009, 15:40:02
But then the forum would be flooded with angry titanic fans, making topics about adding the ship back, but I couldn't care any less if the ship was eliminated from the sim.
Doubt it, they'll go to the VS forum and start moaning at the titanic there.. Least that game/sim would have it. ;D


Well those people have to realise that the title is Ship Simulator, the aim of the sim is to allow realistic navigation in the sort of vessels around to this day. Perhaps to inspire future officers..
It's not a sim to admire a ship that's in the past and on the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean.
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: Wave Music on August 16, 2009, 15:59:58
VSTEP will make them happy only by releasing the "Steamship Simulator" + a separate forum as well! ;D
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: Captain Darling on August 16, 2009, 16:02:26
VSTEP will make them happy only by releasing the "Steamship Simulator" + a separate forum as well! ;D
Now that's a worthy suggestion! ;D
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: Wave Music on August 16, 2009, 16:22:52
Yeah, also "Offshore Simulator" & "Crane ship Simulator" for me as well. :D
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: RMS Gigantic on August 16, 2009, 18:43:41
Actually, take a look at Etremes' atmosphere: With all the disasters and action they suddenly seem to be putting in it, combined with a new publisher, they seem to be turning towards appealing to a far larger audience.

That means that they are going to be wanting gimmicks and the like to reel more customers in. What company in their right mind would axe one of their most customer-attracting gimmicks when trying to get more people into the game?
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: Stuart2007 on August 16, 2009, 19:34:36
Well those people have to realise that the title is Ship Simulator, the aim of the sim is to allow realistic navigation in the sort of vessels around to this day. Perhaps to inspire future officers..
It's not a sim to admire a ship that's in the past and on the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean.

I don't recall vstep ever saying that. Personally any mention of Titanic makes me lose my will to live (the model is (as good as it is to look at) nearly as boring as the film of the same name.). However, there ARE 'people' who enjoy it and to say it should be eliminated just because we less enthusiastic people deem it pointless, is wrong.

Oh dear... look how many mentions of titan... :sleepy:
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: Captain Darling on August 16, 2009, 19:41:59
Well, what do you think the aim of the sim is then?

Did I say VSTEP said that? I just said it as a general observation.

Well, I don't think the sim is about counting how many lifeboats Titanic has, or exploring her interiors. I also don't think Titanic has a place in the sim.

But I understand your point of view, I just differ from them. :(
All to their own opinion.
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: Wave Music on August 16, 2009, 19:51:13
...and many people are even requesting to add Britannic, Olympic, Lusitania & such...   
What's the point of adding all those ships if they all had 4 funnels & all dead long time ago?!  :o
The aim of SS is to have variety of ship types & especially variety in propulsion.   If Titanic & her look-alikes could had VSPs or 3 - 6 azipods - catch my vote for them to be in next SS's.
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: Stuart2007 on August 16, 2009, 19:53:19
Well, what do you think the aim of the sim is then?

Did I say VSTEP said that? I just said it as a general observation.

Well, I don't think the sim is about counting how many lifeboats Titanic has, or exploring her interiors. I also don't think Titanic has a place in the sim.
If you are STATING the aim of the sim, then you must be speaking on behalf of the developers. You could say the water taxi (as a boat opposed to ship) should not be in it, but then you start getting silly.

There IS a solution  :o Just don't load any mission with Titan... :sleepy:...ic in it. Simple.
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: Stuart2007 on August 16, 2009, 19:55:44
Well those people have to realise that the title is Ship Simulator, the aim of the sim is to allow realistic navigation in the sort of vessels around to this day. Perhaps to inspire future officers..
It's not a sim to admire a ship that's in the past and on the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean.

1. Titan... :sleepy:...ic *IS* a SHIP! (was)
2. Aim of realistic navigation... Do you not navigate Titan... :sleepy:...ic and is it not realistic (there was once a time when things were done by a compass rather than GPS you know...)
3. WHO says only modern day vessels should be included?

Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: RMS Gigantic on August 16, 2009, 20:14:03
The Titanic is in as a gimmick, a VERY effective one at that. Axing Titanic would no doubt hurt sales in Extremes by making it less desirable to both people that are here now and several future buyers. Consider that.
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: Stuart2007 on August 16, 2009, 20:25:17
Considering that ship is already in and may not need anything done to it, is it worthwhile asking vstep to take it out just to satisfy a few people who don't like it.

The sad fact is that ask anyone about the most famous ship in the world and they'll say "Titan... :sleepy:"
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: RMS Gigantic on August 16, 2009, 20:35:39
VStep wants the most sales. The more games Titanic is in, the more of those games people will buy. The action in Extremes will be a goldmine for Vstep so long as they can spread the word about it.

Also, you seem to assume that someone who likes Titanic and already has SS08 will buy it a second time when Extremes comes out.

Also, there is a LOT that needs to be done to it. It's far from complete!
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: Wave Music on August 16, 2009, 20:38:54
Am I the only one who has noticed that this topic degraded to that (http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,12170.0.html) topic? :o
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: RMS Gigantic on August 16, 2009, 20:40:56
What's wrong with a debate?
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: Stuart2007 on August 16, 2009, 20:59:07
I think WM does have a point- for once. And since vstep aren't going to listen to this anway, we might as well discuss whether the sun should rise in the East or the West tomorrow.

RMS gigantic- I was trying to say that vstep aren't going to eliminate titan... :sleepy:..ic with all the work that's been done on it.. Yes, sure people want more, more, more... but compared to starting a new model to replace it, it is a pointless debate.

If you actually look I am agreeing with you. Please don't make me switch sides...
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: RMS Gigantic on August 16, 2009, 21:40:46
I was saying it should be in because it's a good marketing strategy. If they got Cunard's permission to model the QM2, putting her and Titanic both on the cover of the game would lead to a gold mine in terms of sale numbers! Remember, companies want the most amount of money possible. If someone doesn't like a ship, all they have to do is never use it.

Those who ask for Titanic's removal are basically writing to an airline that offers peanuts and pretzels in flight asking them never to serve pretzels again because they prefer its peanuts.
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: Captain Darling on August 16, 2009, 21:58:25
Well, when you consider that Titanic uses more CPU in the sim, by just being there, or taking up more HDD space which I'd rather use with perhaps more important things.
Also having Titanic being in a MP Selection, I've never seen a Titanic in MP. That must count for something?
Also, I don't think Titanic attracts soo many people as you assume. What missions can you use the Titanic for? Can you get through the Atlantic ocean without sinking? What else? Titanic was only built for transatlantic crossings.. ::)

I don't know, but I guess with Titanic being in SS08, why would people buy SSE just to get Titanic again? SSE I wouldn't think would be much different to SS08 in that respect.

Also, RMSG, you say there is much more work to be done to the model in the sim. The ship is CPU heavy already, I don't think VSTEP will work more on it and add more polys which will end up with the minimum Specs to be even higher. Do you really think that will attract new customers?
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: Wave Music on August 16, 2009, 22:01:07
One good point though - Titanic is good only for running in to icebergs! :thumbs:
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: RMS Gigantic on August 16, 2009, 22:11:10
Ship Simulator would be considered by the masses to be a rather dull game as it stands now, when looking at SS08. Not that many people, especially inland, would have an interest in a game only about piloting a ship around, especially with a ship and environment selection that small. Many people, however, are suckers for pop culture! Stick something famous into a game and it tends to sell it, just look at the console games! Putting in a gimmick like the inanimate star of the highest grossing film of all time and at least a few dedicated fans are bound to notice. Those people buying the game helps sales, which gives VStep more money, which, in the long run, is what a company is all about. By the time they realize that it's perhaps only good for looking at, they've already tossed the money down.
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: bdomi2 on August 24, 2009, 11:51:29
ship simulator is about ships and dealing with real problems that happen on ships that includes saving people. and yes i know you dont see any one walking on the titanic but it still adds to the affect of it.
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: bdomi2 on August 24, 2009, 12:05:07
it should be about all ship things and another thing they should have people walking around on the titanic they should also add more interior. and with the life boats only one being lowered would be ok  so you could escape the water. also they should alow you to fire distress calls so they could send a boat that could apear once it goes down. and i know i am a huge titanic freak
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: bdomi2 on August 24, 2009, 12:07:21
p.s does any one know how to sink the titanic like it did in real life ive seen it been done on you tube its cool if you know pls tell   :captain:
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: bdomi2 on August 24, 2009, 12:11:51
and wone last thing with brittanic it would not be that hard to use the titanic model to create them :captain: :police: :captain: :police: :captain: :police: :2thumbs: 8)
and i personaly brought the game so i could use the titanic
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: RMS Gigantic on August 25, 2009, 00:37:27
Ship Simulator uses animations for its sinkings, so you can not recreate 1912 without eiter exploiting a bug or illegally tampering with the game's elements and/or files.
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 25, 2009, 00:40:10
Hi bdomi2,

if you post a new message after a previous one you made, and no one else has reacted yet, then it's best to modify your exsisting topic and adding a new remark to it, than to make several posts in a row.

If you combine it to one, it looks much more tidy!!

Thanks!!

Regards,
Fred
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: bdomi2 on August 25, 2009, 13:19:25
thanks Mad_Fred for the advice and for RMS Gigantic ive seen it been done on you tube i just dont know how if you dont belive me look it up it way not snap but it sinks head on and thats another thing you damage the ship at the bow but the stern sinks faster. iv hit an iceberg just as it did in 1912 and it only damaged the bow but yet it sank stern first ::) :captain: :police: :thumbdown:
with the sinking i think you use the ancors to do it
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: bdomi2 on August 25, 2009, 13:24:21
something new can you have icebergs on free roam and also does the time change in free roam example one min it night the next its morning :captain: :doh:
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: bdomi2 on August 25, 2009, 13:25:36
Ship Simulator uses animations for its sinkings, so you can not recreate 1912 without eiter exploiting a bug or illegally tampering with the game's elements and/or files.
ive seen it been done but it didn't snap
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 25, 2009, 13:25:42
You're welcome!

Regarding the rest;

The ships in the game pretty much always sink the same way.

But.. you can force a different style, by dropping anchor, and such. Take any ship, and drop anchor while sailing. (you have to be slow enough for the anchor to be active, so to speak. < 5kts)

You'll go nose down, and up over end even, ending up upside down..  :doh:

You're not supposed to sink anyway, you have to keep the ship and the passengers alive. NOT using the lifeboats always has priority.   ;)  ;D


Fred.


P.s.  I explained about double posting, please modify your post if you add something new to your post and there hasn't been a new reply from someone else yet.  ;)


Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: bdomi2 on August 26, 2009, 07:05:16
thanks again fred :doh:
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: RMS Canada on August 26, 2009, 17:54:09
What's the point of this topic?
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: SHdude on September 02, 2009, 10:51:15
no offense to the idea of adding lifeboats (which i'd love!) but i dont think vstep will add  working lifeboats because it'd create too much lag. :captain:
Title: Re: titanic lifeboats
Post by: SHdude on September 02, 2009, 10:53:22
p.s does any one know how to sink the titanic like it did in real life ive seen it been done on you tube its cool if you know pls tell   :captain:

yes i know how to sink it realistically. first damage the ship so it starts sinking, drop the anchor and go full speed forwards it's awesome!  :captain: