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Title: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 04, 2009, 08:53:24

Hey everyone,

I was asked a few times about the attempt to make the Perseus, that I took a while ago. And asked if I was going to continue. Unfortunatly that first attempt was not very good. So I started it again, from scratch. It's not a 100% accurate copy since I only found photo's and no plans (yet), but generally realistic enough to bare the same name allready, I reckon... Lotsa work still to be done, but it's a start.  ;D

More to follow soon, I hope.

Fred.

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 04, 2009, 08:55:53

Is that still in sketchup? Looks amazing!

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 04, 2009, 08:56:46

Thanks very much!  :thumbs:

Yeah, sketchup model, but a carrara render though.  :)

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 04, 2009, 08:58:14

Quote from: Mad_Fred on August 04, 2009, 08:56:46

Thanks very much!  :thumbs:

Yeah, sketchup model, but a carrara render though.  :)

You should go work for google and show people what sketchup can do. It is almost like the ship version of that sketchup helicopter that everyone has seen.

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 04, 2009, 08:59:42

Welllll... I'm not thát good.. that guy that made the blackhawk rocks.  ;D

But I very much appreciate your kind words!!

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: serkan on August 04, 2009, 09:26:35

Hi Fred,
You make great models with sketchup. Looks very nice and professional indeed !

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 04, 2009, 09:29:00

Hi Serkan,

Thanks a lot, mate! I very much appreciate that.  :2thumbs:


Fred.

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 04, 2009, 09:42:34

Quote from: Mad_Fred on August 04, 2009, 08:59:42

Welllll... I'm not thát good.. that guy that made the blackhawk rocks.  ;D

But I very much appreciate your kind words!!

You are too that good.

Just think all I can make is a stupid box, although I do like rendering random things.

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Wave Music on August 04, 2009, 11:50:28

Glad to see this going. Great work, Fred! Keep it up! :2thumbs:

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: llamalord on August 04, 2009, 13:12:12

Hazzah!  Fred and his SWATH Are Back! ;D

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Wave Music on August 04, 2009, 13:14:49

Quote from: Mad_Fred on August 04, 2009, 08:53:24

So I started it again, from scratch.

And Fred, don't say that you started that model 20 min before creating this topic. ;)

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Shipaddict on August 04, 2009, 13:22:51

That is great Fred really good! :)

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Minime on August 04, 2009, 13:53:49

wow I love it, looks so great and very nice choice of vessel, I've tried a few times before but never got that far.

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on August 04, 2009, 17:26:04

Great stuff Fred, nice to see you're back on track with it.... :) :thumbs:

Keep it up!

Jack.

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 06, 2009, 05:19:32

Thanks very much everyone, that's ever so kind!!

And nope WM,... what you see on that render is about 6 hours work..

And about 4 hours more, till this new render..  ~10 hours in it so far, if you count the trial and error bits.  ;D

Most of the last couple of hours was the 'cleaning up inside' for what I did so far. Tedious..  :doh:

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: TNeves on August 07, 2009, 15:59:37

It's excellent Fred! All the details are there! :2thumbs:

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: re-x_3dit on August 07, 2009, 16:04:32

My previous boss fixes cars with sketchup.
He has detailed engine 3d's and looks at that and at the car. compares and fixes :P

I am averagely good but boatguy uptop rocks :P

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: RYAN123 on August 07, 2009, 18:50:04

will it be in ship sim 2008 or 2010

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 08, 2009, 00:20:34

Thanks very much, guys!!!  :2thumbs:


Ryan123, no idea.. I do tend to follow the Vstep guidelines when I model, but there is of course much more to it than just a model itself. It depends very much upon my finished product, and if Vstep even wants this vessel in the game at all, to begin with.

I model purely for fun, and obviously to gain more experience. Anything more than that would be a big bonus, time will tell.  ;D

Fred.

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 08, 2009, 04:11:59

Here's a few new WIP shots..   And yeah, I know there's a few railing struts missing..  don't worry..  ;D

The Wheelhouse has had a makeover, and the liferafts were added.

To be continued..

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 08, 2009, 04:29:53

Brilliant Detail!

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 08, 2009, 04:38:55

Thanks very much, Austin!!  :thumbs:

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: v.h94 on August 08, 2009, 11:57:45

Great ship Fred i hope it gets to the game it's an vecile that is missing ;D

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 08, 2009, 15:44:30

Thank your very much, I appreciate that!!


Here's a few more renders.. quick (less quality) ones this time, I am in a hurry.  ;D

Some new stuff on her, but lots still to do.  :lol:

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Minime on August 08, 2009, 16:03:02

very nice Fred, she's coming along very nicely. I wish it somehow could be added to the sim, I'd love to sail it.

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 15, 2009, 19:11:02

Hi all, here's another update.

Exterior almost done..  just a few little details and flaws to get just right.
After that just the wheelhouse interior left.

A quick render with more to follow soon!

Regards,
Fred

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Wave Music on August 15, 2009, 19:16:07

:2thumbs:  Best_Fred  :2thumbs:

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Season on August 15, 2009, 19:42:28

Beautiful model, you are doing great! :2thumbs:

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 15, 2009, 19:57:41

Amazing detail, for sketchup!

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: J3nsen on August 15, 2009, 20:33:31

Well done again Mad_Fred  :)

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: The Ferry Man on August 15, 2009, 20:41:00

That is great  :2thumbs:

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 15, 2009, 23:02:29

Thanks very much y'all!!  I appreciate the kind words!!  :2thumbs:

Quote from: Agent|Austin on August 15, 2009, 19:57:41

Amazing detail, for sketchup!

Well.. it's all just connecting lines drawn in a 3d environment.. Sketchup can do just as much detail as any other program. But people think it cannot, since so many very simple models float around out there, cause just about anyone can pick it up and have a go.. unlike other expensive programs aimed at professional use. and the resulting 'overdose' of very simple models, lacking detail, gives most people the wrong view of the program, I reckon.. I know I myself have had to seriously change my opinion about it.. hehe.. ..  And of course you can only get detail if you put the hours in to painstakingly create them.  ;D

But it's still all 3d drawing at the end of the say.. joining up the dots... doesn't matter if you draw it with 3dsmax, gmax, blender, truespace, hexagon, cinema, sketchup..  or whatever. lines will be lines. And sketcup will let you put as much detail in it as you like, right up to the point where your pc slows down to pre-pentium speeds..  ;D


Fred

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: firestar12 on August 15, 2009, 23:04:12

Quote from: Mad_Fred on August 15, 2009, 19:11:02

Hi all, here's another update.

Exterior almost done..  just a few little details and flaws to get just right.
After that just the wheelhouse interior left.

A quick render with more to follow soon!

Regards,
Fred

Fred, showing us real pictures of vessels and saying they are your renders is frowned upon. (They do look that real!) :2thumbs:

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: The Ferry Man on August 15, 2009, 23:04:41

Quote from: Mad_Fred on August 15, 2009, 23:02:29

But it's still all 3d drawing at the end of the say.. joining up the dots... doesn't matter if you draw it with 3dsmax, gmax, blender, truespace, hexagon, cinema, sketchup..  or whatever. lines will be lines. And sketcup will let you put as much detail in it as you like, right up to the point where your pc slows down to pre-pentium speeds..  ;D

I found that out with the QE3... it got really slow.

Will you try to get Perseus in SS?

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 15, 2009, 23:14:17

Hehe.. cheers Shane!  :2thumbs:


TFM,

Dunno.. I haven't suggested anything to Vstep.. I just wanted to finish it first.

At the moment it is too poly high, since I make this first draft for looks mainly. After it's all done, I intend to redo much of the railings and other very round features, to make them less hi poly.

I suspect I can then keep it within limits. Then it's a case of doing a few more jobs with which I have yet to get any experience.. like lightmaps and collison models and proper texturing and you name it...  :)

So.. for now it's just the model bit. Needs lots of work to get it in the game.. IF Vstep would even want it.


Fred.

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: The Ferry Man on August 15, 2009, 23:17:30

Well it is a interesting vessel, and we don't have anything like it in SS.  :thumbs:

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 15, 2009, 23:33:15

Cheers!

Yeah... it would be the first SWATH vessel.. As far as the need for addons to add something new to the game, that much is in order, I reckon.  ;D

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: J3nsen on August 15, 2009, 23:46:11

Quote from: Mad_Fred on August 15, 2009, 23:02:29

Thanks very much y'all!!  I appreciate the kind words!!  :2thumbs:


Well.. it's all just connecting lines drawn in a 3d environment.. Sketchup can do just as much detail as any other program. But people think it cannot, since so many very simple models float around out there, cause just about anyone can pick it up and have a go.. unlike other expensive programs aimed at professional use. and the resulting 'overdose' of very simple models, lacking detail, gives most people the wrong view of the program, I reckon.. I know I myself have had to seriously change my opinion about it.. hehe.. ..  And of course you can only get detail if you put the hours in to painstakingly create them.  ;D

But it's still all 3d drawing at the end of the say.. joining up the dots... doesn't matter if you draw it with 3dsmax, gmax, blender, truespace, hexagon, cinema, sketchup..  or whatever. lines will be lines. And sketcup will let you put as much detail in it as you like, right up to the point where your pc slows down to pre-pentium speeds..  ;D


Fred

Ohhh, i love you right now!<3

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 16, 2009, 00:39:10

 ;D  ;D

Not easy defending our tool of the trade sometimes, eh?   :doh:

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Wave Music on August 16, 2009, 00:41:36

Fred, I don't get it - where're the funnels on that ship?

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: J3nsen on August 16, 2009, 01:10:47

Here you go Wave Music :)

(http://i27.tinypic.com/2jd2y3c.jpg)

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Wave Music on August 16, 2009, 01:21:17

(http://www.gamingmmo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/magnifying_glass.jpg)


 ;D


Nope, doesn't look like a main engine's exhausts.

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: J3nsen on August 16, 2009, 01:27:15

You may see them on the end of a realistic picture :P

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2234/1921400134_eea098181f.jpg?v=0)

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Wave Music on August 16, 2009, 01:28:43

Pretty odd then.

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Master Captain on August 16, 2009, 01:47:31

yea they seem very small, anyway awesome looking model fred! ;)

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: cptnchris on August 16, 2009, 03:04:55

that is awesome! i wish i was that good... that must have taken you a while becouse thats really good  :2thumbs:

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Master Captain on August 16, 2009, 03:06:49

yea it takes a long time to be that good :D i've done some modeling and it just takes lots of practice

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: v.h94 on August 16, 2009, 18:28:14

This is great work fred i hope this gets to SS if you need any help with other things than modeling i can help :2thumbs:

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Sam on August 18, 2009, 11:09:26

Hey Fred,

I am going to vlissingen this thursday, biceaus I am starting my studies there next month (maritime officer).
And te sistership of the Perseus, the Cetus, is normally moored somewhere in port.

So, if you want, I'll look her up for you and take some (detail) pictures.

Are there some areas of wich you want extra pictures?



Your model looks great Fred!

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 18, 2009, 11:13:32

Hiya Sam,

Cheers! That would be nice!

Since I did not have any plans, the model is far from accurate. I'm thinking of just renaming it and look at it as a sort of, little sister of Perseus and Cetus. Many details are not true to life as it is now. A lot if it due to the lack of high res photo's. So pretty much any part you can get up close, would be helpful, athough of course, I'm allready done with most of it, and might only redo the whole thing if I find accurate plans.   :)

The most important thing still to be done is the wheelhouse interior. No good photo's to be found there. But that's asking more than you can accomodate, I reckon.  :doh:

Thanks in advance! I really appreciate it!!  :2thumbs:



Fred

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Sam on August 18, 2009, 13:49:17

Well, I don't think that I am going to be able to get onboard.

Have you allready looked at the video on the website of the loodswezen?
I thought that you could see several peaces from the interior of the bridge in it.

And don't thank me to soon, I'll try to find her.  ;D
I know two places where she could be, biceaus I allready passed her a few times on my parents boat.
But now I am there with the car, so I'll see what I can do.

Here allready is a picture of the Perseus wich I toulk when she was in Vlissingen, a long time ago.
(http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/1108/dsc0378gp4.jpg)

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Sam on August 20, 2009, 21:28:57

Hey Mad Fred.

Good news and bad news.

The good news is that I found the Cetus and that I could take some good shots.

The bad news is that I only saw her from one point and that is the bow.
And I didn't manage to get onboard biceaus the whole area was fenced.

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 21, 2009, 00:14:46

Hi Sam,

That's okay, I am very pleased with these!!! You took the time and effort and I appreciate that a lot!!  :thumbs:


Thanks very much!

Fred.

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Sam on August 21, 2009, 20:48:47

Hey Fred.

I had to be at a school wich is only one km away from the mooring place, so it wasn't much of an effort.
And I am starting my studies for maritime officer in Vlissingen, so I  will probably allso take some more pictures in the future.

But probably the quality will be much worse, biceaus I borrowed my dad's Nikon D90 for these pictures  ;D

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 26, 2009, 00:01:14

Anything at all is well appreciated, no matter what quality!  CAuse I might just rebuild it to proper specs after this 'test model'.  ;D

But don't go missing class on my behalf, promis me that!  ;)

so..  the model then...

I renamed the vessel, since it is so structurally different from the real thing, that I decided to make her pose as a virtual new, younger sister, working alongside the Perseus.  ;D

I kept a similar kinda feel, by staying within Greek mythology, and so she is now Christianed "Proteus", after a minor Greek sea God.

Here are some rather quickly done moonlight renders, I made some detailed shots as by some of your requests.

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 26, 2009, 00:04:31

and some more

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Wave Music on August 26, 2009, 00:05:22

OMG!  That's incredible!  :o

Can I have a shot of how it looks in SU without any "preparings to official show", please?

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 26, 2009, 00:06:46

And these ones, to finish it off.

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 26, 2009, 00:07:32

Quote from: Wave Music on August 26, 2009, 00:05:22

OMG!  That's incredible!  :o

Can I have a shot of how it looks in SU without any "preparings to official show", please?

 ;D  Thanks very much!

I'll go take a pic, give me a few minutes. It's a lengthy load.  ;D

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 26, 2009, 00:18:04

Here you go...

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Wave Music on August 26, 2009, 00:22:53

Pretty complicated & heavy, I guess. :thumbs:

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 26, 2009, 00:26:18

There are some tricky parts on it, and she hasn't been on a poly diet, nope..

The next job, apart from the interior of the wheelhouse, is to replace all the railings with low poly versions.. But I wanted to first complete it as hi-res as possible, regarding rounded shapes. A Light version should become game friendly now.

All the rails still have their skeletons in place, so easily replacable in an hour, maybe two.  :)
By doing that, plus somne cleanup work, I reckon it will end up pretty trim.  ;D

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: TNeves on August 26, 2009, 02:21:23

I must say: It's Excellent!! :2thumbs: I'm (trying) learning 3dsmax, but your sketchup technique is great, it will be a pleasure to drive her on SS 08 or extremes :thumbs:

Keep us posted.

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 26, 2009, 12:44:49

Thank you very much, I appreciate that!!!  :2thumbs:

Will keep you posted, for sure. More to come later.  ;D

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: --tractorman-- on August 26, 2009, 12:52:19

Thats just insane, puts me to shame

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 27, 2009, 00:45:24

 :P

Ta very much!  ;D

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: DVOMarineDesign on August 29, 2009, 09:25:28

Although it is different from the original ship, you did a really good job there Mad Fred.
I really appreciate when someone is putting some hard work, efforts and demanding attitude in trying to offer something serious and realistic. Realism once aboard is the real essence of any simulator and any model sould have that essential notion in mind, which is unfortunately not the case of too many models.

In short: Well done, congratulations!

Best regards,

DVOMarineDesign (Dom).

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: firestar12 on August 29, 2009, 15:29:54

^ I agree. :P

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on August 29, 2009, 16:53:13

BRAND NEW RENDERS! Roll Up! Roll Up! BRAND NEW RENDERS! :lol:

Naaa' seriously, I've done some renders for Fred...You can download them Here. They are renders of the Proteus in the Dark, with all lights lit. Hope you like them!:

http://rapidshare.com/files/273056313/Renders_SWATH_PROTEUS__PACKAGE.zip.html

Kind Regards,
Jack
p.s. Thanks to Nathan for uploading for me, having problems uploading myself!!

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 29, 2009, 17:17:18

Thank you guys very, very much! I really appreciate it!!!  :2thumbs:

Thanks for your very kind words Dom, and you too Firestar, for agreeing with them.  :P  ;D

And Jack, many thanks once again for this great effort on my behalf! Owe you one!  :thumbs:
And thank you too, Nathan!  :lol:



Regards,
Fred

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Sam on August 29, 2009, 19:09:38

Hey Fred.

Maybe this is a little late, but I just discovered that this weekend it is Vlissingen Maritiem.

And the Perseus and Cetus are allso ships wich join the event.

so maybe you can go onboard and visit the bridge.

Btw, your model is looking absolutely amasing!!

http://www.vlissingenmaritiem.nl/

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Nathan|C on August 29, 2009, 21:12:11

No problem about uploading Jack/Fred, happy to help  :thumbs:

And amazing renders, awesome model Fred!  :o

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: --tractorman-- on August 29, 2009, 21:16:10

Them renders are good, well, amazing infact...

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on August 30, 2009, 10:11:55

Quote from: --tractorman-- on August 29, 2009, 21:16:10

Them renders are good, well, amazing infact...

Good to hear you like them!

Hopefully I did the boat justice! :lol:

Jack.

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Agent|Austin on August 30, 2009, 10:49:08

Here are some of Jacks renders for those that don't want to download the file.

(THESE ARE IRI5HJ4CK's)


(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m62/72494/TwelvethRender_SWATH.jpg?t=1251625587)

(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m62/72494/TenthRender_SWATH.jpg?t=1251625608)

(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m62/72494/SecondRender_SWATH.jpg?t=1251625628)

(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m62/72494/FifthRender_SWATH.jpg?t=1251625669)

(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m62/72494/Extra_Skys_2.jpg?t=1251625703)


(It was hard to choose what ones to put here, haha)

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Minime on August 30, 2009, 11:10:17

Nice renders, love the lighting and of coarse the boat too :2thumbs:

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 30, 2009, 16:26:16

Many thanks, everyone!!  :2thumbs:

Sam, yeah it wasn't possible for me to attend, even if I had known about it sooner. But thanks a lot anyway!  ;D

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: firestar12 on August 30, 2009, 18:31:08

Fantastic. No words that I know can sum up how I feel about this vessel! :2thumbs:

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 30, 2009, 20:51:04

There, there.. it's only a sketchup model..  It's not like I built the real thing all by myself, blindfolded...  :doh:

But thank you very much for the kind words nonetheless, Shane!!!  :thumbs:

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Tomaten on August 31, 2009, 15:43:26

really amazing mate!!  :)

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 31, 2009, 15:47:19

Thanks, mate!! appreciate that!  :2thumbs:

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Wave Music on August 31, 2009, 15:49:07

Pretty professional work there. Well done, Fred!  :thumbs:

Title: Re: Perseus SWATH Pilot boat
Post by: Edwin 24 on August 31, 2009, 15:58:10

Quote from: Mad_Fred on August 04, 2009, 08:56:46

Thanks very much!  :thumbs:

Yeah, sketchup model, but a carrara render though.  :)

Hey will you try to put it in ship sim 2008?

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Tomaten on September 01, 2009, 15:25:12

If he gets it ingame, it will be to SS extremes  ;)

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Wave Music on September 05, 2009, 14:55:12

How's the progress going, Fred?

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Mad_Fred on September 05, 2009, 14:57:21

Nothing new to report..

Although I did go and visit Hoek van Holland yesterday, and got a close look at the Cetus, one of the real ones.  ;D

Also went to Maassluis to see Furie, and saw some interesting things in the area, many ships going in and out, nice Ferries at the Stena Line terminal, the other pilot boats.. etc..

A very windy, very nice day, all in all.  ;D

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: The Ferry Man on September 05, 2009, 14:58:54

Quote from: Mad_Fred on September 05, 2009, 14:57:21

Nothing new to report..

Although I did go and visit Hoek van Holland yesterday, and got a close look at the Cetus, one of the real ones.  ;D

Also went to Maassluis to see Furie, and saw some interesting things in the area, many ships going in and out, nice Ferries at the Stena Line terminal, the other pilot boats.. etc..

A very windy, very nice day, all in all.  ;D

Sounds like a Good Day Out...

Any Pics?

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Mad_Fred on September 05, 2009, 15:08:01

It was indeed!  ;D

No pics yet..  my mate took a lot though, well.. lateron after we bought some new batteries  :doh:, but he didn't email em over yet. I'm going to his place tonight, and I'll bring a usb stick so might have some nice shots tomorrow, if he managed to make some good ones.  ;D

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: The Ferry Man on September 05, 2009, 15:13:10

 :2thumbs:

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Sam on September 13, 2009, 13:26:12

Wow, some of those light renders are amasing realisticly!


I only spotted one mistake.
On the anchor winch you used a chain while it is a steel cable on the real ship.
On the real ship there is a short peice of chain at the anchor, but the rest is steel cable.

You can clearly see that on one of the pictures that I made. ;)

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Ballast on October 22, 2009, 10:52:10

They also come in red  :lol:

(http://i38.tinypic.com/ztu6gh.jpg)

Spotted the German SWATH "Borkum" a while ago on the river Elbe.

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Mad_Fred on October 22, 2009, 11:23:47

 :2thumbs:

Thanks Ballast, nice photo!

At first I wanted to make a second one in these colors too, but haven't got round to that and don't know that I will..


Thanks TFM and Sam!!

and yep I know, Sam.. And the anchor is the wrong kind too. I might change it. I actually made that chain for another vessel and just used it here too. lazyman's solution.  ;D



Fred.

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Bibo on November 06, 2009, 09:39:58

I found this video of a sistership: Cetus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuVyulwUxzA&feature=player_embedded#)

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Agent|Austin on November 06, 2009, 10:13:00

Quote from: Bibo on November 06, 2009, 09:39:58

I found this video of a sistership: Cetus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuVyulwUxzA&feature=player_embedded#)

Great find. Nice video :)

-Austin

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: AriesDW on November 19, 2009, 18:44:43

 :2thumbs: That is really an impressive design. I do not recall seeing one of those before. I would imagine, though, turning and sideways maneuvering to be quite difficult. Forgive me if I am wrong.

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Minime on November 19, 2009, 19:38:26

actually those vessels have very good handling skills. I think she can go around herself with out any bow thrusters or anything.

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Ballast on November 19, 2009, 19:47:28

The SWATH vessels have indeed great maneuvering characteristics. They also can sail in rougher weather than the regular jet propulsion tenders and continue pilot services.

Even though, the Dutch pilot society invested again in jet prop tenders instead of SWATH vessels. The jet propulsion vessels are easier and safer to get alongside with. With SWATH you basicly get one shot to get alongside in the proper position. With jet propulsion vessel you can still control the tender to get it right.

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: AriesDW on November 24, 2009, 07:37:59

Well thank you for sharing with me you knowledge.  ;)

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Mad_Fred on November 24, 2009, 15:33:09

Thanks very much, gentlemen!!!  For the kind words, and the input!  :2thumbs:

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: JoaoMarques on December 13, 2009, 18:38:36

Quote from: Mad_Fred on August 04, 2009, 08:53:24

Hey everyone,

I was asked a few times about the attempt to make the Perseus, that I took a while ago. And asked if I was going to continue. Unfortunatly that first attempt was not very good. So I started it again, from scratch. It's not a 100% accurate copy since I only found photo's and no plans (yet), but generally realistic enough to bare the same name allready, I reckon... Lotsa work still to be done, but it's a start.  ;D

More to follow soon, I hope.

Fred.

what is the program you use to design these boats in 3d?

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Mad_Fred on December 13, 2009, 18:40:30

Hi JoaoMarques,

I'm using Google Sketchup 7.  ;D

And Carrara 5.0 for the rendering.

Regards,
Fred

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: JoaoMarques on December 17, 2009, 14:02:31

nice boat to include in the ship simulator 2010

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Ballast on January 09, 2010, 11:34:28

Quote from: Ballast on November 19, 2009, 19:47:28

Even though, the Dutch pilot society invested again in jet prop tenders instead of SWATH vessels. The jet propulsion vessels are easier and safer to get alongside with. With SWATH you basicly get one shot to get alongside in the proper position. With jet propulsion vessel you can still control the tender to get it right.

Finally found a picture of the new Dutch pilot tenders!

(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn104/sleepboot1/Lakes%202/img_1753.jpg)
First one of the new series, currently built in the States.

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: McGherkin on January 09, 2010, 17:45:20

Very nice! I would like to see that in SSE, being an SSHM and all that....

Title: Re: Proteus SWATH Pilot Tender
Post by: Wave Music on April 03, 2010, 16:12:52

Fred, you should have modeled this one.  :thumbs:


(http://media.shipspotting.com/uploads/thumbs/rw/1088946_800/Ship+Photo+Weser.jpg)