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Title: I might construct a computer.
Post by: firestar12 on August 03, 2009, 22:47:59
Hi guys, I am going to get a new PC, (One that can handle shipsim) and this time I want to build it to save money. Does anyone here know if it is cheaper to make one or buy one?
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: llamalord on August 03, 2009, 23:38:03
If you need any help, I have never bought a computer that was fully assembled! ;D
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: capn_cal on August 03, 2009, 23:41:18
if you did build one that would be amazing!  :o
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: firestar12 on August 04, 2009, 00:06:28
Ok, llamalord, you might be of great use to me. Do you know what is more expensive? To build or to buy? Also, do you have any tips from experience?
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 04, 2009, 00:32:10
Hey Shane,

As I said the other day when we discussed it aswell..  :P  ..it's cheaper to build one with the parts your really want, then to buy a standard package and turn that into the machine you want.. (These packs never seem quite right when I look at them).   ;D

But of course, prices vary, even for the same components. So a good computer store, that you know and trust, and that has fair prices, can probably assemble what you want, from parts they order for you, to end up with the perfect machine for you. And you can probably do some of the assembly yourself, to save money, if they charge for the build. But if you are not experienced with that, it's best to let the expert do it for you.

That's what I always do (though I do build them myself(, and I get more bang for my buck if I compare it to the all-in-one solutions that these stores offer as fixed packages.


Fred.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: firestar12 on August 04, 2009, 00:33:23
What about ebay? ;D
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Mad_Fred on August 04, 2009, 00:35:00
Well.. I dunno.. if you have the money and you want a decent machine so you can run all the stuff you want, and some of the stuff that is yet to come.. then maybe a new machine is better..

I haven't had good experiences with second hand.. but that just might me being unlucky..
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on August 04, 2009, 00:44:01
for the most part its cheaper to build one, but i DO NOT reccomend this to anyone who isn't really good with computers. There is alot that goes into building them, you have to know all the parts you need and you have to make sure all the parts will work with each other ;) If you do go through with it let me know i'm quite handy with comptuers and starting this school year and next year i'll be taking a computer repair class so i should be quite helpful :D
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: TNeves on August 04, 2009, 01:22:00
I can help too, I've made some hardware reviews and I love hardware/overclock  ;D

If you know enough to assemble an entire computer, you just need to know the best parts for the money that you have. It's not that hard, but you need to know what you are doing ;)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on August 04, 2009, 14:08:05
I can help my PC is being built as we speak should be finished later ill post the dxdiag so I can make sure it works :P Anyways it is cheaper to build and it is better...thatway you can have what you want in in also ebay I would not really buy electronics from especially computers because you dont really know what your getting...I just pain 600$ Canadian for a custom buit lt PC with an INtel Core 2 Duo 2.8GHz Processor a Graphics card with 1gb of memory a 500GB harddrive and I forget the FBS and 4 GB of ram running XP...heres some advise look around for the computer shops Spambot NOT bestbuy or future shop like individual stores because they know what theyre doing and they usually have cheaper prices...and if you find anything less they will usually match it :2thumbs: Good Luck!!!!!
Matt
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: saltydog on August 04, 2009, 15:19:51
I tend to agree with Fred, go to a good computer store and tell them what you want installed..
Things to keep in mind: a good processor, a good video card, enough RAM.. :)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on August 04, 2009, 15:57:04
Also you want a fairly higher FBS  :thumbs: And another thing to keep in mind if you can find XP anywhere its better than vista...less demanding :thumbs:
Also it is better to let the store assemble it for you because if you plug it in and turn it on after you built it and you fry the motherboard you wont be a happy camper...but if they build it and it fries then you get it fixed for free so keep that in mind ;D
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: saltydog on August 04, 2009, 16:06:05
Windows 7 is on the way.. :)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Captain Spencer on August 04, 2009, 16:15:15
Building a computer must not be attempted by those who have no idea what to do!

I have built many computers for both customers and family and some of the problems you face might be more trouble than it is worth. I'm not trying to put you off, but make sure you have at least a small clue about what to do.

It is often cheaper to build a computer yourself, but remember this - when you buy a computer already built, it is working. Build it yourself and it might or might not work. The difference being that at least if you buy from a company you know it will work ;)

Anyway, if you need any help Shane just ask ;)  You know I'm pretty good with computers :)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: RMS Canada on August 04, 2009, 17:08:07
My father has a computer built for him by a computer store in my town.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on August 04, 2009, 18:02:20
Yes Pete I was going to wait for windows 7 but I became inpatient but I could always upgrade as my new PC is able to run Vista if XP became obsolete...lets not think of a world full of vista just yet :P
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: firestar12 on August 05, 2009, 01:20:30
Yes Pete I was going to wait for windows 7 but I became inpatient but I could always upgrade as my new PC is able to run Vista if XP became obsolete...lets not think of a world full of vista just yet :P
I know not to use Vista, it is a piece of garbage. I might do windows seven or XP.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on August 05, 2009, 01:29:58
I put XP on my new one and news I FINALLY GOT MY NEW CUSTOM BUILT PC YAY!!!!!!!!! :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on August 05, 2009, 01:33:26
windows 7 is not released its still being developed so all there is, is vista as XP was taken off the market, and matt, i doubt you can offer any help if you just got a custom built PC and you didn't build it yourself :doh:  Firestar, if you dont know what you're doing with computers i reccomend you visit this site http://www.ibuypower.com/ (http://www.ibuypower.com/) they offer custom built PCs without the frustration of building it yourself ;)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: firestar12 on August 05, 2009, 01:35:09
I want to build mine myself, a shop doing it just doesn't really mean you 'built' it. Also Matt, what was that "FBS" you were talking about? And MC, I know computers very well.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on August 05, 2009, 01:44:47
ok, good luck then ;) i say i know computers very well (which i do) but if i were to build a computer i'd probally just hardly make it :P its not easy as Captain spencer said, theres alot of research involved with making sure all the components will work with each other. ;)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Captain Spencer on August 05, 2009, 01:49:22
I want to build mine myself, a shop doing it just doesn't really mean you 'built' it. Also Matt, what was that "FBS" you were talking about? And MC, I know computers very well.

FSB - Front Side Bus - basically it is the data transfer between the processor and the northbridge. The better the FSB, the faster the processor will run if the correct multiplier is used.

Shane, don't forget that google is worth knowing :)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: TNeves on August 05, 2009, 03:51:30
windows 7 is not released its still being developed so all there is, is vista as XP was taken off the market, and matt, i doubt you can offer any help if you just got a custom built PC and you didn't build it yourself :doh:  Firestar, if you dont know what you're doing with computers i reccomend you visit this site http://www.ibuypower.com/ (http://www.ibuypower.com/) they offer custom built PCs without the frustration of building it yourself ;)

Windows 7 is no longer under development, the RTM was finally released.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on August 05, 2009, 11:12:59
Sorry to jump in the deep end but....

Don't get me wrong, I'm no computer expert, but the fact electricity is involved is rather dangerous - You really need to know what you are doing, Shane. I wouldn't even think about working on my computer, let alone build one. Not until I have good experience.

If I were you, I'd have someone build one for you, at the specs you want. It's usually cheaper, and you can get a good PC. Just make sure you get a gaurantee with it.

That's just my advice.

Jack.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on August 05, 2009, 12:31:26
and matt, i doubt you can offer any help if you just got a custom built PC and you didn't build it yourself :doh:    
My uncle did  :)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on August 05, 2009, 20:41:22
My uncle did  :)
exactly matt you didn't build it :P Agreed jack, you need to know how big of a power supply to get and there is an amount of plug in wires and cables and such. Hardest part is if you have to put the processor on the mother board! :o
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on August 06, 2009, 02:41:09
Yea well I watched...anyways I agree he said it is best to have a place do it that way if you plug it in and the motherboard fries you have a warrenty and you dont need to bang your head against the wall because you fried an expensive motherboard
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on August 06, 2009, 03:20:50
yes, but if you know what you're doing that shouldn't happen  ::)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Sam on August 06, 2009, 10:41:36
I did it a few times and I'll never do it again.

In these days it is verry cheap to chose the components you want and then let someone from a computer store build your pc and install all the software.

Installing the software yourself will bring nothing but trouble.
I allready had a lot of moments when I wanted to smash my pc into bits and pieces biceaus one driver was ruining everything ect.


So my advice, don't do it unless you really know what you are doing.

You can allso make a good pc at www.dell.com
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Captain Spencer on August 06, 2009, 11:10:59
A custom PC can actually run better than if it was bought from a shop, especially places like dell!

All these companies budles rediculous amounts of software on the system that eventually it takes  up space and gets on your nerves. My Girlfriends laptop is massively plastered with DELL everywhere and trial version of Mc Afee and all sorts. Now, she gets loads of popups saying register this, do that!

To be honest I'd rather build my own computer (so long as you know how) and install the software I WANT, not what companies want me to.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on August 06, 2009, 21:51:51
thats why i hate dell, they fill their computers with loads of useless junk :P HP is alot better, i've had 2 (my desktop and laptop) and they're great machines and they dont come with much junk either ;D (warning: austin has been know to attest to HP ::) )
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: firestar12 on August 06, 2009, 21:56:17
Yes, because all of HP's startup programs are so not junk, like "HP Advisor" which takes 2,500 K to run when you start up. I hate HP. ::)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: TJK on August 06, 2009, 22:19:28
Here you have som good links for building PC
http://www.daileyint.com/build/
http://www.buildeasypc.com/
http://www.pcmech.com/byopc/

the most important are to ground you self so noting will be demages by static eltricks, all components in a pc are weary sensetive
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: firestar12 on August 08, 2009, 23:28:25
Ok, I have begun to spec out the PC.

Ok, that is all my basic stuff, does anyone know if that would be possible? Also, please understand that I did not go into complex matters, but if any could tell me if this is practical, let me know. Also, should I go with a Pentium or AMD processor?
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: saltydog on August 08, 2009, 23:32:46
I would go for one of the newer nVidia cards, one in the 200GTX range, if I wanted to splurge.. ;D
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: firestar12 on August 08, 2009, 23:33:14
Alright, will note that. Is that good for shipsim?
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: saltydog on August 08, 2009, 23:41:37
Just kidding Firestar, the 9800 will do very nicely (just saying there are newer cards now).. :)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: firestar12 on August 08, 2009, 23:59:32
Wait a second, when VSTEP said "Pentium 4 2.0GHz or AMD equivalent" did they mean a 2.0 processor? So would a 3.0> work for the game?
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on August 09, 2009, 00:08:34
when they say Intel Pentium 4 2.0ghz thats referring to the speed, as far as your thoughts about a 5.5ghz processor i have 2 expressions :o :o a processor of that speed just does not exist right now the highested your can expect without overclocking is around 3.2ghz, 5.5ghz is just way out of the question. Windows 7 is released on a limited basis right now (mainly to the pc makers) So you'd be going with XP right now. 32 bit systems take up to 3gb of Ram, 64 bit is required for anything more. For the g-card you want a 9800, so the most powerful will be the NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GX2 which uses 1gb of shared memory, so make sure you've got plenty of ram. 1TB of HD space is absolutely insane, i suggest you re think that idea and decide if you really need all that space...
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: firestar12 on August 09, 2009, 00:11:00
Nothing wrong with too much space, eh? ;D And they DO sell Hard Drives with 1 TB. So for the processor, would this be good enough?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116027
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on August 09, 2009, 00:15:28
yes i know hard drives are made with 1 terra byte of space :D For the processor i suggest alot more as thats only a single core and its just barely above the requirement, I'd reccomend atleast an Intel Core 2 duo or better ;)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: firestar12 on August 09, 2009, 00:18:01
But...I thought that single cores were better than multiple cores?
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on August 09, 2009, 00:24:46
Yes and no... as terry has told me Not all programs can 2 cores so I would say duel is best he said otherwise say a quad core is just a waste of money unless your doing something crazy Wholy **** 5.5 GHZ are you working for nasa?  :doh: The most ive seen was 3.2GHz  my uncle has a 3.0GHz there is no need to spend that much money though I have a 2.8 Duel and that runs it perfectely no issues whatsoever Oh and may I reccommend a good motherboard...a ases P5Q pro  :thumbs:

EDIT I'd say intel never had a problem with them so if it aint broken dont fix it  :thumbs: also Id sayto go for intels CORE processors rather then pentium  :thumbs:
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: TNeves on August 09, 2009, 00:25:23
Well 5.5Ghz is not something possible to buy ;D

About the graphic card, why a 9800? Try the new GTX275 excellent value for money, around 200€, and way better than the 9800.

Today you have two different good choices, concerning the CPU maker. AMD with the new Phenon X4 Quad Core CPUs, and Intel with the Core i7 (more will come, like Core i9, i5 and i3). Intel i7 is more expensive, but with more performance, and AMD has a very good performance with lower prices.

Let me just point this, Intel X58 allows SLI and CrossfireX, but first you need to be sure if your motherboard supports it.

As I said before, and there always some misunderstand about that, the 2.4Ghz Pentium is worst than a 2.1Ghz C2D 6400, like mine, frequency isn't everything. Intel changed the CPU architecture, adding more cores, speeding the FSB, increasing cache etc creating a less consuming and more powerful CPU.

One last advise, don't buy a crappy power supply, buy PSU from makers like Corsair, Seasonic, Enermax, OCZ, PC Power&Cooling, Be Quiet, Silverstone.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: TJK on August 09, 2009, 03:59:02
And don't forget the Power supply PSU you need a real big one to run that system atleest CHIEFTEC PSU Super Series 1200W ATX 12V   and bdw a cpu Exstreem from intell   the biggest today are INTEL CPU Core i7 Extreme 975 3.33GHz S-1366 6.4GT/sec 8MB Boxed  it cost about 8500 nok it's about 1100 USD
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: firestar12 on August 09, 2009, 15:24:48
Ok, this leaves the PC Specs at this thanks to you guys and some of my friends!
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on August 09, 2009, 15:31:13
Why only 3 gbs of ram id say 4gb
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: firestar12 on August 09, 2009, 15:35:17
A 32 bit system can't see 4 GB.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on August 09, 2009, 15:36:46
yea it can it cant see more than 4 though
At least Im pretty sure :thumbs:
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: TJK on August 09, 2009, 15:42:43
yea it can it cant see more than 4 though
At least Im pretty sure :thumbs:
Sorry matt 32 bit system can only see and use about 3.4GB memory, if you us a 64 bit system then you motherboard are the limit
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: firestar12 on August 09, 2009, 15:47:47
Ok I changed it again.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: saltydog on August 09, 2009, 15:52:34
Perhaps a 750W power supply, and consider the GTX275.. :)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: firestar12 on August 09, 2009, 15:54:26
Ok, about that graphics card, I would if I had money! ;D
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: TJK on August 09, 2009, 15:54:32
Ok I changed it again.
  • Operating System: Windows 7, or WinXP (Or both with partitioning)
  • Processor: AMD Dual Core 3.0 GHz
  • Ram: 3 GB (After update)
  • Graphics Card: GeForce 9800
  • Hard Drive: 640 GB
  • Power supply: 400-500W

seems a good system that but i will had 750W power supply so you have more to go on if you upgrade later
and a Hard Drive 1TB not so big different in the price, but watt kind of mother board are you baying?  
Tore
Tore
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: firestar12 on August 09, 2009, 16:08:47
Not sure what kind I would call it.
Ok I changed it yet again.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: TJK on August 09, 2009, 16:27:31
Not sure what kind I would call it.
Ok I changed it yet again.
  • Operating System: Windows 7, or WinXP (Or both with partitioning)
  • Processor: AMD Dual Core 3.0 GHz
  • Ram: 3 GB (After update)
  • Graphics Card: GeForce GTS 250
  • Hard Drive: 640 GB
  • Power supply: 500-750W
but watt kind of mother board? now PC without it ;)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: firestar12 on August 09, 2009, 16:29:51
I know that, I already said I was not sure what it was called. Let me see...
It is a
Quote from: Newegg.com
GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: TNeves on August 09, 2009, 18:38:07
Well, I don't agree again with the graphic card, choose something like GTX275, GTS 250 it's nothing really new, is a rebadged 9800 GTX+ with some chances.

If you are not going to use SLI, a 600W PSU is enough, like this CORSAIR HX-620W MODULAR, for example.

A possible choice:

CPU: AMD PHENOM II X4 955
Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P  
RAM: GSKILL KIT 4GB DDR3 1333MHZ NQ
Graphic Card: Nvidia GTX275 (BFG, EVGA, XFX)
PSU: Corsair HX-620W

With this system you are not able to use SLI, this only supports Crossfire (dua ATI cards).
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: firestar12 on August 09, 2009, 19:18:11
As I said again, I am not looking to spend that much on this, maybe that for my next PC but for this, all that should be good enough. This is not all new hardware I understand, but I want to start simple.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on August 10, 2009, 16:19:31
here the ases p5q pro is a good motherboard I think check her out :thumbs:
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: firestar12 on August 10, 2009, 20:27:03
I already found a motherboard that is compatible with all my parts.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: llamalord on August 11, 2009, 02:13:14
  • Operating System: Windows 7, or WinXP (Or both with partitioning)
  • Processor: AMD Dual Core 3.0 GHz
  • Ram: 3 GB (After update)
  • Graphics Card: GeForce GTS 250
  • Hard Drive: 640 GB
  • Power supply: 500-750W
::)
HP Pavilion Elite d5200t ATX customizable Desktop PC
    * • Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium with Service Pack 1 (64-bit)
   * • Intel(R) Core(TM) 4 Quad processor Q9600 [3.0GHz, 12MB L2, 1333MHz FSB]
    * • 8GB DDR2-800MHz dual channel SDRAM [4 DIMMs]
    * • FREE UPGRADE! 1TB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive from 500GB
   * • 1GB NVIDIA GeForce 9800GT [2 DVI, HDMI adapter]
    * • LightScribe 16X max. DVD+/-R/RW SuperMulti drive
    * • Integrated 7.1 channel sound with front audio ports
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: firestar12 on August 11, 2009, 02:14:58
And you are saying? If you are wondering I did not base my PC off yours in any way. To be honest, I couldn't really care less...
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Minime on August 11, 2009, 02:18:42
I'd also like what was the point in your reply Llamalord, your setup doesn't look a bit like what Shane is planning to build.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on August 11, 2009, 02:23:30
Ohhh I know I know He is bragging about his new PC  :2thumbs: :lol: ;)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: TJK on August 11, 2009, 02:23:37
I think he meant bay one instead to build
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: firestar12 on August 11, 2009, 02:27:15
Or maybe he is just bragging about his PC being so much better than mine...
Well to be honest, I don't like that, this is my first PC, sorry if I don't use expert hardware, but I am trying my hardest and at least it will run ShipSim. >:(
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: TJK on August 11, 2009, 02:33:44
Or maybe he is just bragging about his PC being so much better than mine...
Well to be honest, I don't like that, this is my first PC, sorry if I don't use expert hardware, but I am trying my hardest and at least it will run ShipSim. >:(

you those semes to be find it's a good setup so good luck with you building, and if you need advice you know were  to find it ;)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Minime on August 11, 2009, 02:35:16
you those semes to be find it's a good setup so good luck with you building, and if you need advice you know were  to find it ;)
in the local pc store?
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: TJK on August 11, 2009, 02:39:32
in the local pc store?
me  :thumbs: or other that can this pc building, wee have the PC guru Terry you know
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Minime on August 11, 2009, 02:41:06
Right :doh: Anyway good luck on the computer Shane.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Sam on August 11, 2009, 12:35:36
I can only say one thing, and that is: bad choise!

I don't think that building your own pc is a good idea.
As I said before, I did it a few times and will never do it again.

It is much nicer to receive a pc wich works nice (like my Dell) then having a bunch of problems by constructing your own pc. If you don't really know what you are doing.
I don't really think that firestar is up to the job, biceaus in the beginning he was talking about a 5.5gHz processor. And for only a little bit more money you can have a pc, wich is tested, wich is perfectly balanced.

And about the software: if you are handsome enough to construct your own pc, it should be easy to remove the software you don't like without a lot of problems.
I think dell is great quality, good price and easy to use.

The pc that I build myself, is at the moment, running great.
But I had some trouble to get it that way.
And it allso costed me extra money to get it working great.

While ups delivered my laptop one week after I ordered it and everything was on it and worked great.
No extra costs, no headaches.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: llamalord on August 11, 2009, 14:44:46
Ohhh I know I know He is bragging about his new PC  :2thumbs: :lol: ;)

A little bit of that, ;D and a little bit I was just in the mood to spark some chatter in this topic! :lol:
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: TNeves on August 11, 2009, 15:00:55
I can only say one thing, and that is: bad choise!

I don't think that building your own pc is a good idea.
As I said before, I did it a few times and will never do it again.

It is much nicer to receive a pc wich works nice (like my Dell) then having a bunch of problems by constructing your own pc. If you don't really know what you are doing.
I don't really think that firestar is up to the job, biceaus in the beginning he was talking about a 5.5gHz processor. And for only a little bit more money you can have a pc, wich is tested, wich is perfectly balanced.

And about the software: if you are handsome enough to construct your own pc, it should be easy to remove the software you don't like without a lot of problems.
I think dell is great quality, good price and easy to use.

The pc that I build myself, is at the moment, running great.
But I had some trouble to get it that way.
And it allso costed me extra money to get it working great.

While ups delivered my laptop one week after I ordered it and everything was on it and worked great.
No extra costs, no headaches.

Is something that depends in one thing, what do you know about computers.

My computer was assembled by me, and all the components were chosen by me, now worries, no hassle. Why? I knew what I was doing.

Pre-assembled computers are a very good choice for those that don't have the means, or knowledge to choose the parts and assemble it.

This is just my humble opinion. ;D
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Sam on August 11, 2009, 16:37:05

Pre-assembled computers are a very good choice for those that don't have the means, or knowledge to choose the parts and assemble it.


I agree a 100%.

Only do it unless you really know what you are doing.
Biceaus it would be a shame to spend a lot of money and end in frustration.
(Like I have)

That is why I won't do it again unless I really know shure that it will work tip top.
You could buy some computer magazines (if you REALLY want to build it yourself) biceaus some of them have some systems in it every month (low budget, midrange and banging machines) wich will probably work great.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on August 11, 2009, 18:27:47
thats what i've been saying all along, building a computer usually will work out cheaper and better if you know what you're doing, if you dont or just think you do you're gonna run into a world of problems and it'll just be easier to go out and buy a pre built one until you know what you're doing.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: firestar12 on August 11, 2009, 20:22:34
I can only say one thing, and that is: bad choise!

I don't think that building your own pc is a good idea.
As I said before, I did it a few times and will never do it again.

It is much nicer to receive a pc wich works nice (like my Dell) then having a bunch of problems by constructing your own pc. If you don't really know what you are doing.
I don't really think that firestar is up to the job, biceaus in the beginning he was talking about a 5.5gHz processor. And for only a little bit more money you can have a pc, wich is tested, wich is perfectly balanced.

And about the software: if you are handsome enough to construct your own pc, it should be easy to remove the software you don't like without a lot of problems.
I think dell is great quality, good price and easy to use.

The pc that I build myself, is at the moment, running great.
But I had some trouble to get it that way.
And it allso costed me extra money to get it working great.

While ups delivered my laptop one week after I ordered it and everything was on it and worked great.
No extra costs, no headaches.
I was a tiny bit off when I wrote 5.5 GHz processor, if you know what I mean, I had gotten distracted by something on the main page and said that. And I know my PCs. My friend will also help me build it, he built his! And I think that many times, PCs that are built (if you know what you are doing... :P) run better than the ones from the store.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: llamalord on August 11, 2009, 21:02:22
The only reason that a computer with parts bought and chosen by a person runs better is because you skip the step in the factory where all the bloat-ware is installed. :P
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: firestar12 on August 11, 2009, 21:39:12
I hate bloat ware. I found a CD Drive on Newegg, and I almost got it, until one customer said it apparently was loaded with bloatware and came up with an ad every time you put a CD in the drive.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: llamalord on August 11, 2009, 22:00:34
There is a way you can deal with that by changing the slave (if that drive is the slave drive) report properties in the systems bios.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: firestar12 on August 11, 2009, 22:06:02
I love modifying computers, llamalord. Have you ever overclocked a PC? Also, do you think a 420W Power Supply would be good for this system?
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: llamalord on August 11, 2009, 22:11:16
Far too many times :lol:

I think that is good for that machine,

Mine is only a 500 Watt and it serves me fine. :-\
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: firestar12 on August 11, 2009, 22:15:48
Great, what do you think of the system? How will it run? What FPS on ShipSim do you think I will get?
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on August 11, 2009, 22:30:44
Great, what do you think of the system? How will it run? What FPS on ShipSim do you think I will get?
well what is your final decision on the specs?
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: firestar12 on August 11, 2009, 23:31:11
Good question,
I didn't include some other stuff like CD Drive because it has not much to do with FPS.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on August 12, 2009, 01:34:39
that sounds good, but FYI windows 7 is vista with clean underpants as terry said.. Windows XP will be hard to get unless you have it already. I reccomend Intel over AMD, otherwise things look good, a 512mb g card is good. I'd reccomend a 64 bit system so you can have over 3gb of ram
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Sam on August 12, 2009, 10:49:42
A home build pc won't run better then a pc from store if they have the same specs. :P

If you really want to try it.
Just do it.
But make shure that it is a good system, don't rush on choosing parts.
Make shure that every component will work as it should work.

On my last pc, i bought a fast graphic card, but a not verry fast processor. (singel core)
Result: Graphics where awfull, textures where shown all wrong.
          And I had to buy a new processor (dual core) wich costed me €140 just to make the system run good.

And that is why I will never build my own pc again.
If you buy one from dell or hp, all the components work good, they are tuned on eachother and the system works stable.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: llamalord on August 12, 2009, 14:21:11
  • Operating System: Windows 7, or WinXP (Or both with partitioning) and just for the record, I would never do garbage Vista.
  • Processor: AMD Dual Core 3.0 GHz
  • Ram: 3 GB (After update, starting out with 2 GB)
  • Graphics Card: GeForce GTS 250
  • Hard Drive: 640 GB
  • Power supply: 450W

I think from my past attempts that that current setup will run ship simulator on average at about 15-20 FPS.  I think the one difference that could make the biggest improvement would be upgrading to at least 4 or five GBs of Random Access Memory.  I have 8 GB in my new computer and I just ordered another 4 GB slots worth.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: TNeves on August 12, 2009, 14:48:09
AMD dual core is not a good choice. If you want a dual core Intel is the choice. AMD have a triple core CPU that is a very good choice too. You can see here AMD CPUs:

http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUResult.aspx

The problem about Intel is that they will change the socket and the technology, replacing 775 socket with the 1156 and some other changes.

To play ShipSim 4GB is enough, there is no need for 8GB. 64bit Windows 7 is a very good choice, with at least 4GB of RAM, it's going to be a very good system!
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on August 12, 2009, 17:37:52
I recently read an artical that XP will become obsolete not letting programs run on it therefore causing everyone to go from XP to either vista or 7 so just go to 7 I reckon
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: firestar12 on August 12, 2009, 20:21:04
I might do windows 7 though. This PC won't be in existence till next year though...plenty of time.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: llamalord on August 12, 2009, 21:24:32
I recently read an artical that XP will become obsolete not letting programs run on it therefore causing everyone to go from XP to either vista or 7 so just go to 7 I reckon

Yes but you can't believe everything you read on the internet...
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on August 13, 2009, 01:57:47
yea really, i believe there is people that still run windows 98, or 2000, XP wont be obsolete for a long time, businesses and schools still use XP as its the only reliable system currently. Who knows  when windows 7 will be out for the public. A certain source has told me its only released to the PC makers, and besides windows 7 is to look almost exactly the same as windows vista so i really dont see why you wont use it, i thought it would be junk and its good. ;)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: llamalord on August 13, 2009, 13:50:32
Let me tell you, I was a vista hater for a long time, now I have vista on Three of the Twenty Eight computers in my house.  It's not quite as bad as I thought but it is really annoying!!! 

The worst part is the random power ups in the middle of the night to install updates. :evil:

And the other one is the fact that it warns you that it is going to warn you about something. :sleepy:
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on August 13, 2009, 16:45:25
ok dude, you need to get rid of about 25 computers, unless your mom/dad works at a computer repair shop or something you've got waaayyyyy too many computers
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: llamalord on August 13, 2009, 17:51:34
Nope, My dad is an Electrical Engineer, doesn't even do all that much in the electrical standpoint anymore. :doh:
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: firestar12 on August 13, 2009, 23:06:18
NO SUCH THING AS TOO MANY COMPUTERS. :lol:
EDIT: Should I go with Dual Core or Single Core?
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: TNeves on August 13, 2009, 23:16:28
NO SUCH THING AS TOO MANY COMPUTERS. :lol:
EDIT: Should I go with Dual Core or Single Core?

Dual Core, if Intel E8400. Single Core is dead...
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on August 13, 2009, 23:36:01
dual core for sure, single core is absolutly worthless :P Go intel ;)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: llamalord on August 14, 2009, 00:39:33
Agreed
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: firestar12 on September 12, 2009, 18:29:30
Don't think that I abandoned this, I'm just waiting for christmas so I get the parts. Also, the final specs are here:
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: saltydog on September 12, 2009, 18:56:58
Sounds sweet..   :)  (is that power supply enough ? )
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on September 12, 2009, 19:14:10
Don't think that I abandoned this, I'm just waiting for christmas so I get the parts. Also, the final specs are here:
  • Operating System: Windows 7, or WinXP (Or both with partitioning), (And Fedora Linux), and just for the record, I would never do garbage Vista.
  • Processor: AMD Dual Core 3.0 GHz
  • Ram: 3 GB (After update, starting out with 2 GB)
  • Graphics Card: GeForce GTS 250
  • Hard Drive: 640 GB
  • Power supply: 450W

How much will Windows 7 to run though? out of that 3 GB?

Vista needs 1 GB doesn't it? Would Windows 7 be the same, or more?

Jack :)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: TNeves on September 12, 2009, 19:15:20
How much will Windows 7 to run though? out of that 3 GB?

Vista needs 1 GB doesn't it? Would Windows 7 be the same, or more?

Jack :)

7 runs fine with only 1GB, is more optimized than Vista.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: sadsid († 2016) on September 12, 2009, 19:15:53
Hi
I think you will need at least a 550 power supply that card has 2 power cables connected
to the supply I have one in my comp
                                                       Eric
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on September 12, 2009, 22:31:25
dont forget about all the other parts ::) motherboard, case, optical drives and such, get a 64 bit system if possible that way you can expand to over 3gb of ram, and as sad sid said a bigger power supply would be good. ;)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on September 13, 2009, 12:40:07
7 runs fine with only 1GB, is more optimized than Vista.

Ohhh I see. Vista was a bit of a disaster I think....I don't like it very much, but that's my opinion.

Jack.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: TNeves on September 13, 2009, 13:43:15
Ohhh I see. Vista was a bit of a disaster I think....I don't like it very much, but that's my opinion.

Jack.

Vista in the first times was. Now (with SP1+SP2) is a stable a fast (new computers) OS. I used it and I know a computer of a friend that uses it with no hassle. Vista and 7 have a different way of managing memory than XP, a better way.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on September 13, 2009, 14:44:55
See shane im not the only one that thinks you need a  larger power supply ;) ;D :lol: 

And may I ask why you chose AMD, is it just that they are more affordable?
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: firestar12 on September 14, 2009, 21:19:54
dont forget about all the other parts ::) motherboard, case, optical drives and such, get a 64 bit system if possible that way you can expand to over 3gb of ram, and as sad sid said a bigger power supply would be good. ;)
Of course I know about all the rest of that, what do you think I am? I already stated many times before the reason WHY I DON'T list those. Check. ;)
And Matt, I forgot to change the power supply, I now know and have known for some time that that isn't enough.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on September 15, 2009, 01:14:49
Whatever you say ;) How about listing your case choice Im interested to know what it looks like, I have the Antec Sonata III 500w its quite nice, and whats your Motherboard choice?
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on September 15, 2009, 01:24:05
agreed, i'd like to see the case and what your mo-bo (motherboard) choice is
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on September 15, 2009, 01:30:55
I have an Asus P5Q motherboard I love it :thumbs: My case is really nice too I think antec makes good cases and powersupplies
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on September 15, 2009, 01:37:13
ah nice mother board, though theres different versions do you know which one you have? :P
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on September 15, 2009, 15:17:19
Hmmm let me see...well I dont have wi-fi, but I cant find the box that it came in, oh dear :P
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Dave M on September 15, 2009, 21:24:39
Hi Firestar,
If you have a look at this old topic;
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,7373.75.html
you will see that it is the silly things that trip you up. I wouldn't ask you to go through the whole thing, but, on pages 3 and 4 are a couple of the problems, (that I couldn't seem to resolve myself), that can cause you problems.

I am still using the system that I built then and it has served me well. If you install Windows RC then you shouldn't have the problems that I had with the SATA drive, if you install Windows XP then, (depending on the updated version), you might not.

Either way, I learnt a lot from the experience and, (believe it or not), enjoyed it. I have a lot of satisfaction in the knowledge that 'I built it'. 8)

Regards, Dave
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: firestar12 on September 16, 2009, 00:04:43
Ok, I'm not on my PC so the links are not on my PC but I can tell you my case is from Rosewill and the mobo is an AMD Motherboard, by Gigabyte.

EDIT: Almost forgot, thanks very much Dave!! :2thumbs:
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on September 16, 2009, 00:40:35
Rosewill, do you know what model?
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: firestar12 on September 17, 2009, 01:09:15
Rosewill, do you know what model?
Not off the top of my head.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on September 17, 2009, 01:10:42
Ok then ;) I must say though that I love my antec one!!
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: firestar12 on September 27, 2009, 22:50:15
Ok, with some moderate changes, I might leave it here:

What do you guys think? ;D
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: TJK on September 27, 2009, 23:15:00
Ok, with some moderate changes, I might leave it here:
  • Operating System: Windows 7, or WinXP (Or both with partitioning), (And Fedora Linux).
  • Processor: AMD Dual Core 3.0 GHz (Though I may overclock it to 3.8 GHz if I can)
  • Ram: (DDR3 RAM) 3 GB (After update, starting out with 2 GB)
  • Graphics Card: GeForce GTS 250
  • Hard Disk Drive: 640 GB, though with two or three partitions, that could set it to 320 GB
  • Power supply: 500-600W

What do you guys think? ;D

Good but i wold go for 64 bits windows 7 and why not go for 2 x 500  GB HD
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on September 28, 2009, 01:16:54
sounds good i'll warn you on the overclocking though "overclocking is a risky and unreliable way to increase the speed of a processor it can also damage the processor" quoted from my textbook at computer repair class
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on September 28, 2009, 01:40:37
^^What he said, also why the heck do you need so much memory 2 500Gb hard drives or  1 640 I didne even fill up my last 250GB :doh:
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: TJK on September 28, 2009, 02:00:20
^^What he said, also why the heck do you need so much memory 2 500Gb hard drives or  1 640 I didne even fill up my last 250GB :doh:

The HD are not so expensive anymore, you maybe pay 10 dollars more for a 5oo gb GD so whynot, and if you shall stor picture and grapick then it take a hug of HD space
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on September 28, 2009, 04:20:57
yea thats overload, i have a 300gb HD on my desktop and i have ALL my pictures and videos ever taken and i still have plenty of room, plus loads of games and addons for those games. believe me space goes a long way ;)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: TJK on September 28, 2009, 08:40:01
yea thats overload, i have a 300gb HD on my desktop and i have ALL my pictures and videos ever taken and i still have plenty of room, plus loads of games and addons for those games. believe me space goes a long way ;)

and plenty room for back up and config them to run in Raid
i have 2 TB in my PC and i have no problems with space and one of them are only for back up but cos it's not necessary but alvise good with more store place trust me back up and backup, i will not have more HD crash without backup
TJK
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on September 28, 2009, 21:08:26
2TB  :o Why in the world to you need that much space, I wouldnt be able to find my files if you actually filled that all up
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on September 28, 2009, 21:30:48
lol you would have soo much stuff if you used up 2 TB!! unless you edit movies for a job or something theres no way you need terrabytes of space
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on September 28, 2009, 23:22:07
I agree I have 500GB and that still is ample :P
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Firestar on December 28, 2009, 01:31:13
Just thought that I might add this:

On Wednesday I am getting a new computer, and from what I've heard, it should be able to run ShipSim!
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on December 28, 2009, 01:47:50
i'd look into it more, no use buying it if you can't play your favorite game
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Firestar on December 28, 2009, 01:50:25
Might I add:

It's free.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on December 28, 2009, 01:51:06
Any Specs?
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Firestar on December 28, 2009, 01:51:29
Nope, not until Wednesday. I don't even know it it works yet.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: jammydodger on December 28, 2009, 02:04:35
Just a little thing regarding the processor talk: My brother's giant computer has a Quad Core 12Ghz processor  :captain: ;D  :o
I think he's what we call a 'hardcore gamer' ...
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on December 28, 2009, 05:12:27
me being a computer person my first reaction was yea right ::) After some googleing i found out that a 12ghz processor does exist in a way, 4 cores running at 3ghz each gives you 12ghz, thats an expensive buy ::) So technically its not a 12ghz processor, the total speed is 12ghz. Its really a Quad core processor running @ 3ghz
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on December 28, 2009, 15:26:40
me being a computer person my first reaction was yea right ::)
  :doh: Yea your brother's pulling your leg technically Im not sure what the fastest home computer was clocked to I believe it was around 7.2GHz...Correct me if I'm wrong
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: TerryRussell on December 28, 2009, 19:07:36
I couldn't sleep last night, so I sat down and went through my box of bits. I had three old motherboards with different faults. I now have two working motherboards. (unsoldered and swapped the crystal and the CPU to one and the BIOS and memory sticks to the other).

I then combined the bits of two old cases and made a good PC tower. The fans were noisy so I pulled a couple of old spares out of my collection. One has pretty blue LEDs when it operates. I also removed a couple of broken switches and swapped them for working ones from the unused case.

The motherboard does not have network interface, nor video outputs etc. These have to be bolted on in the form of daughter boards.

As this was going to be a Server, I rummaged through the box of old video cards and pulled out a Verge S3 card. That works wonderfully.

I pulled out an unbranded 52X CD drive and screwed the side runners onto it and inserted that into the slots. I found a load of old drives in one of the boxes and made a RAID array of 4 identical drives (320 GB x 4).

Then I found my old NT4 Server software. Spent 2 hours formatting disks, loading drivers and installing the software etc. Had to find some 8139 drivers for the network card, but I had some in the files library.

I now have a working NT4 Server which has just logged itself onto the network as the Backup Domain Controller. I have a complete spare identical unit, in case of breakdowns.

1 GB RAM, 1GHz processor. That is incredibly fast for an NT4 server that will check people's credentials and serve up some files. It is now supporting the Creators Forum Server.

Yay!  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: sadsid († 2016) on December 28, 2009, 19:24:00
Hi Terry
Nice to know we have backup for our C.F  :2thumbs:
                                                                   Eric
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: TerryRussell on December 28, 2009, 19:41:42
Hi Eric.

For all of my computer systems, I have two identical copies running at all times. For each of them, they have a dedicated backup server running 8 miles away in another office. Each of those backup servers is then backed up with complete archives every night. And they are taken to a third site, about 20 miles away.

So if anything goes wrong, I can usually swing the backup system into place within a short while. If necessary, I can reroute the internet connections to the other office.

This NT4 server is just there to ease the workload a little for the main CF server.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: jammydodger on December 28, 2009, 21:43:38
me being a computer person my first reaction was yea right ::) After some googleing i found out that a 12ghz processor does exist in a way, 4 cores running at 3ghz each gives you 12ghz, thats an expensive buy ::) So technically its not a 12ghz processor, the total speed is 12ghz. Its really a Quad core processor running @ 3ghz
Well yeah, but the power is still 12Ghz so it IS a 12 Ghz processor, albeit in 4 3GHz cores
@CaptMatt: This proves my point?
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: mvsmith on December 28, 2009, 22:18:32
It is only a 12 GHz computer if the software can keep all four cores working at full load. Most software can use only one core.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: jammydodger on December 28, 2009, 22:53:49
It is only a 12 GHz computer if the software can keep all four cores working at full load. Most software can use only one core.
Dunno what you mean by 'most software'. My brother is a hardcore gamer so the only programs he uses apart from games is his keyboard and mouse managers, a download manager, Firefox, Teamspeak and PHP.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Firestar on December 28, 2009, 22:56:31
PHP is a program? I thought it was a language.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: --tractorman-- on December 28, 2009, 23:05:06
PHP is a program? I thought it was a language.

Agreed, like html
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: jammydodger on December 28, 2009, 23:06:08
Well the PHP Nuke thing I think... Whatever the PHP program is for managing a paid PHP site.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on December 29, 2009, 01:36:14
It is only a 12 GHz computer if the software can keep all four cores working at full load. Most software can use only one core.
good point, the computer would be working extremely hard if all 4 cores were at full capacity so I'd say thats quite a rare situation. I do believe some programs can use 2 cores, which is why i personally will not buy a quad core processor as most of the time 2-3 cores are just sitting around doing nothing
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on December 29, 2009, 05:01:56
@CaptMatt: This proves my point?

Nope your wrong  :doh:
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Captain Cadet on December 29, 2009, 20:08:37
Windows 7 is on the way.. :)
Wrong... :thumbdown:... Windows 8 now
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on December 29, 2009, 21:30:57
Wrong... :thumbdown:... Windows 8 now

LOOK AT THE DATE OF THE POST! wow Another year of absolute stupidity **Shakes head in shame*
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on December 29, 2009, 21:48:39
hmm i wonder if windows 8 is anything like windows 7  :D
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on December 29, 2009, 22:29:30
Excuse his lack of technological knowledge  ::)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Firestar on December 29, 2009, 23:52:50
Wrong... :thumbdown:... Windows 8 now
Windows 8?

:doh:
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: jammydodger on December 29, 2009, 23:56:31
Nope your wrong  :doh:
What? It is a 12Ghz processor... It is split into 4 cores each of 3Ghz. Therefore it has a combined maximum power of 12GHz.  ;D
Also: You're wrong with more than just that... Second word in your post...
 ::)  :angel:  :doh:  :sleepy:
@Firestar: If Windows NT was an operating system (can't remember if it was an OS or part of some OS technology) then it'd actually be Windows 9...
Why can't Microsoft count?  ::)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on December 30, 2009, 00:28:09
people do not refer to processors by their total speed as on rare ocasions do all cores operate at full capacity, especially a quad core processor as most programs only use 1 to 2 cores. So in reality it would be a quad core processor running at 3ghz
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: jammydodger on December 30, 2009, 00:31:59
people do not refer to processors by their total speed as on rare ocasions do all cores operate at full capacity, especially a quad core processor as most programs only use 1 to 2 cores. So in reality it would be a quad core processor running at 3ghz
Everywhere I've looked, including online and the real world, processor power has been listed as the combined maximum power of all cores.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Firestar on December 30, 2009, 00:37:09
Whatever? Does it really matter? I mean, Why argue over it? Seems a bit of a daft thing to be arguing if you ask me!!
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: jammydodger on December 30, 2009, 00:39:50
Whatever? Does it really matter? I mean, Why argue over it? Seems a bit of a daft thing to be arguing if you ask me!!
*comes to senses as if waking up*
Wha, wha, wha? Oh, yeah... Erm... I'm right! Now let's shut up and hope Firestarter, (sorry, thinking of English hooligans  :doh:) I mean Firestar, gets the right computer.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on December 30, 2009, 01:27:37
and you come you your senses now...
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: jammydodger on December 30, 2009, 01:30:35
and you come you your senses now...
Because Firestar clearly pointed out that there is no point argueing like this, because this is silly nonsense. And so instead of continuing like the mature person you are have done, I have stopped. Or at least I had done, until you posted ANOTHER reply in 'the other thread'. You bite, I bite back.  :police:
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on December 30, 2009, 01:41:07
Well we wouldnt argue if you had your facts right!
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: jammydodger on December 30, 2009, 01:46:34
Will you make your damned mind up which thread you're gonna post about this in!
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Captain Cadet on December 30, 2009, 18:25:08
Why dont youy make you'r on O/S?
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Firestar on December 30, 2009, 18:38:10
Why dont youy make you'r on O/S?
Why don't you?

Guys, seriously, stop fighting or I won't hesitate to lock this thread. I'm getting a new computer today so I won't hesitate.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Captain Cadet on December 30, 2009, 18:40:34
you can make you own O/S
you may need to go into the Command Prompt and start from srach.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Firestar on December 30, 2009, 18:42:31
You don't program things in the command prompt. And yes I'm aware that you can make your own operating system. You would program it in a programming language such as C++ or C.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Captain Cadet on December 30, 2009, 18:44:38
You don't program things in the command prompt. And yes I'm aware that you can make your own operating system. You would program it in a programming language such as C++ or C.
No it is 0 and 1
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: --tractorman-- on December 30, 2009, 18:47:39
No it is 0 and 1

CC, C++ and 0 and 1s and totally different things. C++ can be used to make games, 0 and 1 is a language for computers. C++ is in the family with C# and stuff i think..
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Captain Cadet on December 30, 2009, 18:50:11
how do you know this... is this true...
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: --tractorman-- on December 30, 2009, 18:54:04
because I have had experience with making games and models for games (such as Farming Simulator) and we learnt about all the 0 and 1 stuff in tech a while back. You learn this sort of stuff once you get to secondary school
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Firestar on December 30, 2009, 18:54:36
how do you know this... is this true...
Well first of all, it would help if you did your research.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Captain Cadet on December 30, 2009, 18:58:13
 >:(
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: --tractorman-- on December 30, 2009, 18:59:05
>:(

Wheres the 'owned' button when you need one eh?  :lol:
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on December 30, 2009, 19:00:09
Hahaha  :thumbs:
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Captain Cadet on December 30, 2009, 19:20:21
Wheres the 'owned' button when you need one eh?  :lol:
Watch it or i will report you
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: --tractorman-- on December 30, 2009, 19:23:36
Watch it or i will report you

I'm not scared, and anyway, I'm not the only won hoo jocks abote yoo
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on December 30, 2009, 19:25:19
Watch it or i will report you

Report what...? We could report your 40 useless polls?  :P

Oh wait I dont want to destroy Shanes topic again
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Wave Music on December 30, 2009, 19:33:05
Report what...? We could report your 40 useless polls?  :P

I already reported one.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: --tractorman-- on December 30, 2009, 19:34:19
I already reported one.

<3

 :P
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: McGherkin on December 30, 2009, 20:46:22
I'm going to make my own OS, using Command Prompt.

See you in about 700 Years!hopefully
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Firestar on December 30, 2009, 21:04:08
I don't want this getting anymore personal to anyone. I can't lock it for some reason, but I want to. Don't let this get out of hand people, I don't want feelings to be hurt.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: McGherkin on December 30, 2009, 21:08:31
Sorry. No offense intended.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Captain Cadet on December 30, 2009, 22:12:03
this is becoming a bad Topic we are gowning of track !
I'm going to make my own OS, using Command Prompt.

See you in about 700 Years!hopefully
Report what...? We could report your 40 useless polls?  :P

Oh wait I dont want to destroy Shanes topic again
Wheres the 'owned' button when you need one eh?  :lol:

Stop. or i will get TJK in
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: TJK on December 30, 2009, 22:16:55
this is becoming a bad Topic we are gowning of track !
Stop. or i will get TJK in


Sorry cant do anything here you need a global moderator, but i can say place follow the topic, title are for those that have forgot it ==> " I might construct a computer."
TJK
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Firestar on December 31, 2009, 04:19:19
Thank you, Tore.

Ok, the final specs for this is:

3.0 GHz AMD Athlon Processor
GeForce 9600 GSO Graphics Card
2 GB of DDR3 Memory (4 GB After upgrade)
Probably a 400 GB HDD, maybe 640 GB
550 Watt Power Supply (Probably)
Gigabyte ATX AMD Motherboard

Operating Systems:
*Windows XP 64 Bit
**Windows 7

Fedora Linux

(*Meaning "maybe", **Meaning "probably not")

Like?
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on December 31, 2009, 10:23:58
Shane, do you mean to run both operating systems on top of eachother? Or are you just unsure of whether to have Windows, or Linux?

Jack.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Captain Cadet on December 31, 2009, 11:12:30
Sorry cant do anything here you need a global moderator, but i can say place follow the topic, title are for those that have forgot it ==> " I might construct a computer."
TJK
sorrry... i thort that all Moderator do the same job!
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: TJK on December 31, 2009, 11:16:12
sorrry... i thort that all Moderator do the same job!
We do but in different languish but you can cos rapport to us all and wee take action so no problem. you will
all vise get help from us
Tore
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Firestar on December 31, 2009, 16:34:32
Shane, do you mean to run both operating systems on top of eachother? Or are you just unsure of whether to have Windows, or Linux?

Jack.
No, I'm partitioning my hard drive so that I can choose what one I want to boot with at startup. I might not even run Windows, who knows? I'm positive I'm running Linux, that's something that I am definitely doing. I only need Windows for ShipSim, then again, some people have claimed success running ShipSim in Wine. I'll not take any chances.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: TerryRussell on December 31, 2009, 17:40:52
You could run Linux in a VM under Widnows, of course.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Firestar on December 31, 2009, 17:51:54
Nah, takes the fun out of it. ;D
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on December 31, 2009, 18:43:11
Why are you so keen to run linux? 3.0GHz Single?
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Firestar on December 31, 2009, 18:48:25
3.0 GHz Dual

Why wouldn't I be keen to run Linux? Why are you so keen to run Windows? Let's not have this turn out to be an operating system topic.

I'm buying my motherboard in a few days.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: TerryRussell on December 31, 2009, 23:12:00
Linux has a lot of uses. I often turn old PCs into Linux servers to act as BDC units, as I still run an NT4 server domain for my businesses. Built and installed one this afternoon.

After all these years, NT4 works superbly even on low spec PCs - like Linux. Haven't rebooted my servers in anger for over 10 years now. One NT4 server has been running non-stop for 6 years!

The beauty of Linux is that as I have access to the modules for the kernel (I love GNU!), I turn it into something specific for my uses. Then I can use my own high-scurity transport layers for the network traffic. Yay!

But, I want Windows for gaming. Linux doesn't hack it for that purpose.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Firestar on December 31, 2009, 23:15:18
Terry, I love hearing you say that. ;D
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Firestar on January 02, 2010, 19:34:37
Everyone, It's official!! ;D

I purchased the motherboard today, and am awaiting it in the mail! :2thumbs:

Set me back about 80 Dollars.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: jammydodger on January 02, 2010, 19:57:02
What did you go for?
*please let it be ASUS*
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Firestar on January 02, 2010, 20:00:02
Gigabyte ATX
Thank you, Tore.

Ok, the final specs for this is:

3.0 GHz AMD Athlon Processor
GeForce 9600 GSO Graphics Card
2 GB of DDR3 Memory (4 GB After upgrade)
Probably a 400 GB HDD, maybe 640 GB
550 Watt Power Supply (Probably)
Gigabyte ATX AMD Motherboard

Operating Systems:
*Windows XP 64 Bit
**Windows 7

Fedora Linux

(*Meaning "maybe", **Meaning "probably not")

Like?
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: jammydodger on January 02, 2010, 20:10:54
Why don't I bother to check threads when I ask questions (sometimes  :lol: )  :doh:
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Firestar on January 02, 2010, 20:17:23
Ah, nevermind it.

Here's the beast: (A little distorted, I enlarged it so you could see.

She's got 8 USB Ports in the back, and 2 fire wire! ;D

(http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/13-128-392-S01?$S180W$)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on January 02, 2010, 21:46:00
Nice whats the FSB?

(http://www.bas-r.nl/pic/asus_p5q.jpg) Thats mine...my FSB is 1600MHz
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Firestar on January 02, 2010, 23:59:13
I don't know, don't really care to be honest. I think it's like, 5200 MT/s.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on January 03, 2010, 00:21:51
I don't know, don't really care to be honest. I think it's like, 5200 MT/s.

Well you should care considering it affects the speed of your computer :P

EDIT: MT/s?
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Firestar on January 03, 2010, 00:38:21
I really don't know..lol
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Firestar on January 05, 2010, 23:16:28
Motherboard arrived in the mail today, everyone! ;D

I can't wait to start using it as a PC... ;D
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Firestar on January 23, 2010, 17:21:29
Alright, everyone, more news:

- Processor will be purchased by the end of the weekend
- Power Supply is being updated to 700 Watt

;D

Which will leave me at 2 parts.. :lol:
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on January 24, 2010, 00:49:44
need more than just 2 more parts besides processor and power supply. You'll still need ram, a case, hard drive among other things. And be careful with the motherboard as the components can be easily damaged by electrical shock from you, even if you dont feel it. I HIGHLY reccomend getting an anti static wrist strap before you begin your build.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on January 24, 2010, 02:01:52
Keane's right...you clip it onto the case so it has the same static level so you don't shock any of the components. I'd recommend working on a table thats not on carpet if possible.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Firestar on January 24, 2010, 03:31:08
need more than just 2 more parts besides processor and power supply. You'll still need ram, a case, hard drive among other things. And be careful with the motherboard as the components can be easily damaged by electrical shock from you, even if you dont feel it. I HIGHLY reccomend getting an anti static wrist strap before you begin your build.
I realize you need more than two parts.. I know what I'm doing you know, I've built them before.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on January 24, 2010, 14:36:04
You have? You were asking for alot of advise in the beginning of the topic :P
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Firestar on January 24, 2010, 16:07:22
That was...

Before

 :P
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Firestar on February 22, 2010, 21:54:24
Alright, today I purchased...PART NUMBER 2!! ;D

3.0 GHz AM3 Dual Core Processor!

This leaves me with:

AM3 Motherboard
3.0 GHz Processor
400GB HDD
and CD Drive

Also, Matt, FSB doesn't really exist on the same sense on my motherboard, it's all the same for AMD processors. (Don't let this turn into an AMD - Intel flame war, I've made it VERY clear in this topic why I chose AMD, I don't want anyone else asking "Why not Intel?")
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: McGherkin on February 22, 2010, 21:55:44
Nearly there!
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Firestar on February 22, 2010, 21:58:36
Yeah, I edited btw so you might want to reread. All I need is RAM, a PSU, and a graphics card. I reckon I'll just barely be able to scrape up enough money by April.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on February 23, 2010, 02:48:44
Every computer has a Front Side Bus Speed, AMD or Intel, it doesn't make a difference the FSB Speed is the bus that carries information between the northbridge and the CPU
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: aelcu17 on February 23, 2010, 04:09:33
you should go to walmart.com or amazon.com and look there might be a cheap one
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Firestar on February 23, 2010, 04:19:51
Every computer has a Front Side Bus Speed, AMD or Intel, it doesn't make a difference the FSB Speed is the bus that carries information between the northbridge and the CPU
I know this Matt, it's standard knowledge, but all AMD motherboards have the same FSB, it's built INTO the processor.
you should go to walmart.com or amazon.com and look there might be a cheap one
Yeah, well, none of those websites are as cheap as Newegg. I've never found such good deals before. Thanks for the recommendation though. :)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on February 23, 2010, 04:21:59
i wouldn't reccomend walmart. best site that i've come across is www.newegg.com tons of good parts and they're cheap ;)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on February 23, 2010, 22:24:22
I know this Matt, it's standard knowledge, but all AMD motherboards have the same FSB, it's built INTO the processor.Yeah, well, none of those websites are as cheap as Newegg. I've never found such good deals before. Thanks for the recommendation though. :)

Odd because when I looked at them they were all different :-\
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Firestar on February 24, 2010, 01:26:07
If it uses the AMD processor, then it's built into the processor so it doesn't even matter. ;)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: VirtualSkipper on February 24, 2010, 01:40:06
Watch out you guys or you might end up like this:  :lol:

(http://www.instructables.com/image/FIJ088Q8CYEY95S9PS/Home-Made-PC-Troubleshooting-Case.jpg)

Or this:  :lol:
(http://forums.overclockersclub.com/uploads/gallery_32188_263_87003.jpg)

Or this:  :lol:
(http://www.we-make-money-not-art.com/wow/0aaonplasmascrrrr.jpg)

Or this (for the Star Wars fans):  :lol:
(http://www.instablogsgallery.com/gallery/2007/12/04/millenium-falcon-computer-mod_5638.jpg)
(http://www.instablogsgallery.com/gallery/2007/12/04/millenium-falcon-computer-mod-8_5638.jpg)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Firestar on February 24, 2010, 01:48:26
That star wars one looks quite nice..I might considering looking for one if I can find it cheap. I love exotic things. ;D
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Minime on February 24, 2010, 09:38:15
seems kinda small, I'd get one a bit too large, then you always have space for extras.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: The Ferry Man on February 24, 2010, 09:45:50
Or this (for the Star Wars fans):  :lol:
(http://www.instablogsgallery.com/gallery/2007/12/04/millenium-falcon-computer-mod_5638.jpg)
(http://www.instablogsgallery.com/gallery/2007/12/04/millenium-falcon-computer-mod-8_5638.jpg)

 :o

I want one of those...  ;D
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on February 24, 2010, 16:30:27
doesn't look like that would have very good cooling ::)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Firestar on February 24, 2010, 18:44:12
Right out of the cockpit? ;D

Guys, I looked outside and found the processor in a box inside a box in a bag, so it's here! ;D
Next I'll buy the graphics card or the power supply probably.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on April 21, 2010, 02:09:41
haha, case is the most important ::) gotta put all that stuff somewhere
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on April 21, 2010, 21:44:14
not always you could spend a good chunk of money on a case
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on April 21, 2010, 21:52:27
hehehe, ya me know who is in this economy :P
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: dexter7 on April 22, 2010, 17:19:38
i might destruct a computer
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on April 24, 2010, 01:03:55
i might destruct a computer
rather than destruct it send me the parts! i'll do somethin with it :doh:
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: dexter7 on April 24, 2010, 01:28:45
 :D :D :D :lol: :lol: :lol: i meant by with a giant hammer and then feed it to my dogs(joking, did that just to be funny)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Willmutt on April 25, 2010, 08:52:45
What parts do you have then? I don't want to look though the hole thread just to find out :lol:
Which graphicscard and processor?


Just wonder, do you guys think that SSE will support more then 4 cores, did SS08?
Thinking about buying AMD thuban later, that has 6 cores :)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Captain Cadet on April 25, 2010, 09:22:53
My birthday party was today and I got $240.00. That's enough to finish the computer. I've just barely ordered the graphics card. All I need to buy is the RAM and the case.(I've decided to go with 4GB instead of 8GB, but my friend says it won't matter anyway, since I'll be using 32 bit Windows XP. Don't forget though, I'm using 64 bit Linux as well so it should be pretty awesome). I think he talked me out of it cause he was jealous.. *kidding*

Anyway, I'm very excited as this computer may be complete this week. I've never actually played ShipSim on a nice computer so it's going to be a first for me. :thumbs:

EDIT:

Just barely purchased the case as well. Right now I have

-Case
-Motherboard
-Graphics Card
-Power Supply
-CD Drive
-Hard Drive (Which I just double checked and found out is only 160 GB :'()
-Processor

This means I need to buy just some RAM. This is going to be so awesome..
Happy birthday  :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on April 25, 2010, 16:15:24
just an FYI to you, 32 bit systems don't accept more than 3 gb of ram, i see you want to run 64 bit linux
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Willmutt on April 25, 2010, 18:31:01
Someone knows if SSE will support more than 4 cores, and does SS08?
FSX supports up to 256 cores :lol:
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Willmutt on April 25, 2010, 18:46:38
Ship Simulator 2008 only supports one core. No one here knows about SSEx.. or is allowed to tell us at the moment.
One core!? Sounds silly haha.
What about SS Nautis? It has to support more than one core, hasn't it? Just interesting to know:)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: McGherkin on April 26, 2010, 21:16:26
That or there will be a million bits of silicon everywhere and one very frustated Shane in the middle of it all. It would happen to me!  ::)

Damn, I need to build a computer... No, wait, I need my money to get a car...
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on April 27, 2010, 00:14:41
Thats great Shane  :thumbs: I just built a computer today in school  :thumbs:
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on April 27, 2010, 23:25:04
Juuuust curious why do you need to wait for the ram to start? :P
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: McGherkin on April 27, 2010, 23:27:46
*jealous*

I can't wait for the MP mate  :thumbs:

I assume you'll be running SS08/E on it?
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on April 27, 2010, 23:32:19
Juuuust curious why do you need to wait for the ram to start? :P
agreed, you might aswell start building, only need ram once you're finished and ready to start it up
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: McGherkin on April 29, 2010, 18:30:04
Sweet!

Can't wait!
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Capt. Matt on April 29, 2010, 19:01:35
 :2thumbs:
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on April 30, 2010, 00:03:09
guess you bought a DDR3 board ::)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Wave Music on April 30, 2010, 00:30:38
Nice, now you only need to apply  a n t i a l i a s i n g  (break my tongue to pronounce that!)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on April 30, 2010, 00:43:59
haha yea, and everyone should check out www.elitefun.net (http://www.elitefun.net) Online arcade and forum, join and spread the word ;)
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Wave Music on April 30, 2010, 00:55:04
haha yea, and everyone should check out www.elitefun.net (http://www.elitefun.net) Online arcade and forum, join and spread the word ;)

It's like on Youtube in comments:

Quote
Nice video. 5 stars!!
btw, check out my channel its full of funny videos ,music.  i upload funny stuff everyday, so subscribe to me  oh and send me a freind invite if u subbed  bla bla bla bla....
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Master Captain on April 30, 2010, 00:55:10
hahah, yea well i'm just tryin to get the website out there :P
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Minime on April 30, 2010, 17:41:23
puppy lost, it has eyes and about 4 legs, if anyone finds it send an email to mylostpuppy@puppy.puppy, thanks
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Wave Music on April 30, 2010, 17:44:40
Quote
sub to mui chanle asnd ull get 10 subbaks in 1 minite!!!1

 :doh:
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Wave Music on April 30, 2010, 18:03:07
;D

I get that all the time.

I had to move myself & everything to other channel due to that, but they still come.
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Wave Music on April 30, 2010, 18:06:54
I get ~5-15 subs a day. ;D

I never sub them back.

How come you're so popular?
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: Wave Music on April 30, 2010, 19:05:32
I think it's just those people that 'sub4sub'. They sub me expecting me to sub them back. Only half of it happens. ;D

Maybe it's because you're in those sub4sub groups?
Title: Re: I might construct a computer.
Post by: McGherkin on April 30, 2010, 19:09:48
I get that amount of subscriptions a day. Not that they're going to see anything special.