Ship Simulator
English forum => Ship Simulator 2008 => General discussions => Topic started by: ken83 on June 09, 2009, 16:51:38
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Does anyone know what instruments is coming in ss2010?
* Is there coming gps, radar etc. (Navigation instruments)?
* Will functions like, using lifeboats, open visiors and ramps on car/passenger ferrys?
* Will there be carferrys like Vikuing Line, Tallink etc. ?
Regards, Kenny
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The Second two sound like it will have to be a no, but maybe you could be a little bit more spacific about your first item because the last I knew ship Simulator does have basic GPS and Radar.
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...last I knew ship Simulator does have basic GPS and Radar.
It could do with a radar that shows more information on ships such as their speed and type of vessel.
For example...
(http://nsidc.org/icetrek/images/high_res/0508_ShipRadarEdgeA22A.jpg)
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haha that pic is from Whale wars XD
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Actually, I do know that there will not be a Ship Simulator 2010.
Vstep announced that some while ago.
But don't worry.
The next version will be called Ship Simulator Extremes, as Vstep announced. It just will not be called 2010.
Am I the only person that noticd the announcement? Seems like it... :evil:
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I suppose that means it takes the whole idea of "Age/Time" out of the situation then ;D
Jack.
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Yep, the software developers seem to often loose the desire to age their products. Micorsoft have returned to their original naming system for Windows, which goes back to the late 1980s.
Windows 1
Windows 2
Windows 3
Windows NT4
Windows 95
Windows 98
Windows 98 Second Edition
Windows XP (i.e. NT 5)
Windows Vista (i.e. NT 6)
Windows 7
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I think most people refer to is as "SS2010" because the end of this vid;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrmXIRpn0ho
shows it as "Ship Simulator 2010 Extremes"
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But then people need to keep up with the plot.
It was subsequently announced that henceforth it would be Ship Simulator Extremes.
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The Second two sound like it will have to be a no, but maybe you could be a little bit more spacific about your first item because the last I knew ship Simulator does have basic GPS and Radar. (http://Posted by: llamalord
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The Second two sound like it will have to be a no, but maybe you could be a little bit more spacific about your first item because the last I knew ship Simulator does have basic GPS and Radar.)
Hi there, sorry i havent replyed i have been on a trip.
I mean a more detailed radar and gps, u know like on big ferrys.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Radar_screen.svg/769px-Radar_screen.svg.png
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I mean a more detailed radar and gps, u know like on big ferrys.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Radar_screen.svg/769px-Radar_screen.svg.png
Hiya! ;)
Doubt that sort of advanced radar will be in SS Extremes, the radar in Pro is very detailed (like that image), VSTEP needs to allow a difference between the Proffessional version that costs €4000 and the game version that costs about £20. Therefore I don't see such a advanced radar in SS Extremes, but I would like a better radar anyway in the game version.
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I say Ship Simulator 2010 or Ship Simulator 2010 Extremes SS10 or SS10E. But I think the walkthrough on SS10E has the SS06 walkthrough(walking), SS08's walking is like a ghost who don't go through walls. And maybe some built in lights for all the ships when it is dark.
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Hi there Captain Darling :captain: :P
Your post make sense, i haven´t thought in those ways, i mean that the Pro version is existing :doh:
But thanks a lot!
Regards,
Kenny
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Hi there Captain Darling :captain: :P
Your post make sense, i haven´t thought in those ways, i mean that the Pro version is existing :doh:
But thanks a lot!
Regards,
Kenny
Pro is still in development.. when I last saw anyway...
The release date on the Pro website changes every month..
Also take a look on the pro website to see what's in it, but take note that not all the things in pro will be in SS Extremes.
Until new information is released by VSTEP, all the things we know is from the teaser and the images released. Anything else is just speculation and hopes and suggestions.
Some people who post things like "I think this is going to be in SS Extremes" are making speculation - which some people think is correct when it may not be.
What I'm trying to say is, only beleive the news announcements by VSTEP, not what people think... I've noticed some people making that mistake.
www.shipsimpro.com
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The Pro Version 2 is not yet released. It is imminent.
However, bear in mind that it costs 4,000 Euro. Therefore a gaming version that costs around 1% of that is unlikely to have the same features.
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Didn't Ballast use SS Pro while training? How did he do that, if it hasn't been released?
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Some companies/colleges have beta releases, or "custom versions" of SS08.
I'm sure Terry or Fred can give more precise information about it.
I expect I could.
But I won't.
Where did Ballast say that?
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I expect I could.
But I won't.
Where did Ballast say that?
Okay, let me put it in a different perspective then.
1. Ballasts pictures from a topic a while ago clearly shows Pro in a nautical college..
2. On the Pro website the release date is changed every month.. Meaning Pro isn't released.
Oh? What could it be then... ::) :doh:
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Yes, he did say SS Pro, didn't he?
He didn't say SS Pro V2, though, did he? :evil:
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Yes, he did say SS Pro, didn't he?
He didn't say SS Pro V2, though, did he? :evil:
Funny ;D
It looks like SS Pro V2 to me.. SS06 Pro didn't have waves..... :P :doh:
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Did I say it wasn't SS Pro V2? :evil:
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Did I say it wasn't SS Pro V2? :evil:
Stop messing with me. :P ;D
Someone doesn't want to admit something............ :lol:
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just stumbled over this old news letter, telling some of the features in, at that time SS09
# A completely new ocean, based on real-world wave spectra(confirmed?)
# Tornados / water spouts
# The harbour of Sydney(Confirmed)
# Part of Antarctica(Confirmed)
# New navigational instruments like a radar and a conning screen
# Many brand new vessels.(confirmed I think?)
can they be confirmed?
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I see another serious battle commencing...
**battens down the hatch**
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just stumbled over this old news letter, telling some of the features in, at that time SS09
# A completely new ocean, based on real-world wave spectra(confirmed?)
# Tornados / water spouts
# The harbour of Sydney(Confirmed)
# Part of Antarctica(Confirmed)
# New navigational instruments like a radar and a conning screen
# Many brand new vessels. (confirmed I think?)
can they be confirmed?
Those are the promises that VSTEP made, most of which we've seen in screenshots and teaser..
Green = Confirmed in image/teaser
Red = Not seen at all at present.
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thanks that makes it clearer, now where's Terry?
Edit: missed the capital T in the name Terry,please forgive me Terry :-[ ;D
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Stop messing with me. :P ;D
Someone doesn't want to admit something............ :lol:
Nah, I'm just messing with your mind. :evil:
I will let you all into a secret, though.
No, it isn't a secret.
I know about Pro. But the chances of me telling you about anything not announced by Vstep is zero. Zilch, nada, nothing. Like all involved, I am sworn to secrecy and I would not do anything that might breach that promise. It's called "integrity". :thumbs:
The fact that something is in Pro does not mean it will be in Extremes. Pro costs 200 times as much, roughly, so it would be silly to imagine you will get any of the features automatically.
Also, Extremes will be released some while after Pro, so who knows what new developments will take place in the intervening time?
[edit - typo]
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The fact that something is in Pro does not mean it will be in Extremes. Pro costs 200 times as much, roughly, so it would be silly to imagine you will get any of the features automatically.
Well I know that and I've even posted that to fellow members advising them of such. For example, look earlier on in this topic.
Integrity has got nothing to do with it.. We're wondering why a product that hasn't been released yet is already in nautical colleges.
Try and keep with what has been asked and not divert to something different. ::)
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What makes you think that Vstep owes you an explanation, exactly?
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Can we wait to the SS extreme are out and see watt that v-step has maked for us, then wee can talk about the game, what are all the speculation about, maybe all complaining and speculation are the reason that the game are been late ;)
Let V-Step get the work don and soon we can bay the SS extreme in the shop and then we can see all the new feature and wait for the updates and then it's time to give all the developer a big hand for siting their in the hot office to make more fun to us all.
wishes to the new Sim yes but do i think it a bit to late now? yes i do the game are soon out and all of us will be happy, OK not all then but mostly all someone are complaining all the time even they not have something to complain at
TJK
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Oh gosh, if the cause of delays was all the speculation, nothing would ever get released! ;D
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What I do know, is that, they will have the water graphics and physics that they have in the Professional Version, in the 2010 Version. and The water will actually be REAL! Or I remember a video saying that or something, just in a scaled down version.
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What I do know, is that, they will have the water graphics and physics that they have in the Professional Version, in the 2010 Version. and The water will actually be REAL! Or I remember a video saying that or something, just in a scaled down version.
Oh no, that'll make my computer wet...
Oh well, better get out the old swimming goggles...
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What I do know, is that, they will have the water graphics and physics that they have in the Professional Version, in the 2010 Version. and The water will actually be REAL! Or I remember a video saying that or something, just in a scaled down version.
Actually, VSTEP have mentioned on a number of occasions that the wave system in the Pro version is NOT the wave system for SS Extremes.
And.. Welcome to the forum, zach071591. :thumbs:
Fred.
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Looking at the released images, it looks as though they are using some kind of new wave/wake system? ???
It would be great if they released some more teasing images. ;D
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If the wave is hitting the pier without any splashes & water fog - I could say that they didn't went too far from SS08 in improving game. :sleepy:
Just some improved water surface, dynamics & some other... From those first screenshots - the sky is still kinda 2d texture with "drawn" on it clouds above the environment. :P
And with adding more & more ships without any serious improvements & additions I think their success won't last for a long time.
Come on, attack me for what I said!
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We can only see what happens. I'm looking forward to it, either way!
Any improvements are good, but I hope that the first main thing they sort out is MP - That's in a mess, at the moment.
Jack.
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Shipsim is still new when you compere it to flightsim. But they are getting there slowly and if they get to the point where it can be other comnpanys can make ships and harbours for it like flight sim now then it could really start to go places. But for a small company they are doing a very good job. :captain:
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I think the problem there, Biggles, is that unlike 'the other ship simulator, *s' that there is a bit more too it than that. If you have a look at the slide show (the address is in the 'unlocking secrets of 2010) then you'll see what goes into making ships and terrain work in the sim.
And I'm not too sure if I'd like to see SS full of sketchup models, to be honest.
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And I'm not too sure if I'd like to see SS full of sketchup models, to be honest.
Many people seem to have this perception about Sketchup being bad. Take a look at Fred's models, he makes them in Sketchup, Including the car ferries that he made. If I saw those rendered, and nobody told me what software they were made in, I'd guess 3D Max, or something along those lines.
Jack.
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The result is important, not the software in which the model was made. I'll wait & see if Fred's ferries will mke into SS.
And Stu, FYI Sketchup is somehow involved in SS.
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Fred has his targets ;)
Jack.
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And Stu, FYI Sketchup is somehow involved in SS.
I was really trying to politely say that most of the models created here on this forum are just not up to the standard that Vstep will take on and add into the game.
I used to use professional CAD stuff years back, and find sketchup 'somewhat limited'. Most of the more basic models ARE sketchup. And I'm not singling anyone out as I haven't even seen Freds models.
I am interested to know how sketchup IS somehow involved in SS... Over to you.
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I know there is alot involved in putting ships into this sim and therefore thats why VSTEP are the only ones making ships. But the ships in the game do what they are ment to do and that is show us how real ships behave and I hope as the VSTEP grows more will get added to the ships. But i'll rather have the other parts of the sim worked on first such as weather and ports than worry too much about the ships. ;)
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And I'm not singling anyone out as I haven't even seen Freds models.
OMG! You haven't seen Fred's models?! :o Quick, Stu, look at those!
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,13417.0.html
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,13479.0.html
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,12944.0.html
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,13239.0.html
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Come on, attack me for what I said!
Why would I "attack" you for what you said? All to their own opinions. ;)
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Yes, Freds models are indeed impressive.
I'm not too sure of a polite way to put it, so all I can say is have a look at all the models that have been made on this forum and consider the designer AND the programme...
I'm not too convinced it IS the programme, but was trying to be polite.
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Thanks for those very kind words!! :thumbs:
You are of course right, Stu.
It's both in the program, aswell as the user. Just cause you have a Spitfire, doesn't mean you are an ace combat pilot, to use a corny analogy.
In theory, Sketchup can prodoce a good enough 3D model to make it into the game. BUT.. a lot of the other steps in the creative proces that leads to a playable ship, will have to be done with 'better' software, still.
Sketchup is free for a reason. It lacks a lot of the necessary tools to do the whole job. It's powerful on some areas, but simply can't match the professional, expensive software. You pay for a reason, there's no free substitute for thousands of Dollars/Euros/Pounds worth of software.
But because Sketchup is free and very easy to use, just about anyone can have a go at modeling now. You will never see beginners buying 3DSMAX just to have a go. And so many more beginners in the user base, means that the output is equally..well.. beginnerish.. :P
90% of models found on the Sketchup 3D Warehouse are just not very good. No disrespect to anyone of course, we all have to start somewhere. And not everyone can do the same stuff as good as the next guy.
Fred
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Thanks for those very kind words!! :thumbs:
U bent het meeste welkom!
In theory, Sketchup can prodoce a good enough 3D model to make it into the game. BUT.. a lot of the other steps in the creative proces that leads to a playable ship, will have to be done with 'better' software, still.
You put it better than I did... But I think you know what I was dying to say!
Many of the sketchup users are bragging about how they made it in 38 minutes... etc ::) Rather than saying how much better they did this time than last time... As I said, I used to use CAD professionaly in the early 90s (things have errr... progressed since then!)
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Like I said, a fair bit of it is down to the user... and most, but clearly not all, of the sketchup users are at the earlier end of their learning curve and far from putting ships in SS.
Most, but not all.... PLEASE, PLEASE try to concentrate on those four little words, with four syllables and thirteen letters (only nine of which are unique).