Ship Simulator
English forum => Ship Simulator 2008 => General discussions => Topic started by: Ozy783 on December 05, 2008, 16:03:50
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I found this, Sorry if its already in here.
http://www.mpssclan.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=356.msg6612
Sounds AWESOME!!
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How come nobody told us about that? VSTEP have been sitting on that news since last April. I, for one, am tired of being treated like a mushroom!
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With the whole sitting on thing
I think its supposed to be
"I'm tired of being sat on like a Toadstool"
I agree though
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How come nobody told us about that? VSTEP have been sitting on that news since last April. I, for one, am tired of being treated like a mushroom!
I'm getting tired of VSTEP pulling 'stunts' like this!
With the whole sitting on thing
I think its supposed to be
"I'm tired of being sat on like a Toadstool"
I agree though
Hi Ozy, have you spotted the search tab for the forum up top? It's the third one in, stuck in the middle of 'Help', and 'Highscores'.
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Toadstools have nothing to do with it ::). Mushrooms are grown in a very dark place and occasionally have unmentionable stuff thrown at them, to encourage their growth, could be a good idea don't you think ???.
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OK, you hold Marty Mushroom in a dark place.
I'll find the unmentionable stuff. Damn! I just mentioned it.
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Why do that Terry, I don't think Marty likes mushrooms!
;)
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The important thing is it sounds awesome! Tornados-Brilliant! Sydney-Awesome!
I hope they have an ice breaker wth antartica there
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Don't ask for Antartica, it will encourage SS08's only resident to buy a copy! ;)
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OK, you hold Marty Mushroom in a dark place.
I'll find the unmentionable stuff. Damn! I just mentioned it.
is it true?
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Hi Mike,
Actually, I am fond of edible mushrooms of many varieties, and often use them in cooking—lasagna, for instance. And, too, I have a certain empathy with them.
Regards,
Marty
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Marty
Only a guess!
Just off to throw a few in the pan myself, as it's dark here now!!
Mike
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I was very...shocked..when i saw the first message in this topic talking about Ship Simulator 2010, and then scrolled down to find a message about Edible Mushrooms...
Hmmmmph.
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I'm a bit comfused, nobody knew that newsletter, I got it ???
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I can't wait for it! :)
Hi All,
I got the E-Mail so don't understand all can say is go to the shipsim web page and Fill Out the News Letter part so you receive it.
Cheers Timbo :) :) :)
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I had it too I think :p
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You shouldn’t tell people about the newsletter and deprive them of the joy in complaining that VSTEP never tells them anything.
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“You shouldn’t tell people about the newsletter and deprive them of the joy in complaining that VSTEP never tells them anything.â€
Indeed, ruination of a perfectly good gripe. It’s after-all not easy to be an armchair rebel… Well – it is, but it’s not easy to make it look difficult.
Wow… 1st quarter of ’09..? That’s not far-away at all at this point.
The new features do sound great!
I especially look forward to the “..completely new ocean, based on real-world wave spectra.â€
Will we be able to use our SS08 Vessels in SS09/10..?
Thanks for the tip/suggestion of signing up for the VSTEP Newsletter, Timbo: I’ve never seen, looked for nor thought about that.
Leibniz & Spinoza aside, I’m never really worried about running out of things to complain about…
Best regards,
Chrystine
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lol leave it to the MPSS forum to start this ::) as a global mod there i think i'll clear things up. Adam, (Captain Spencer here) got the info from this forum i believe so its been here all along. ;)
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I got the newsletter and It mentioned tornadoes and hurricanes... OOOOOOPS! :-X
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do they mean ship sim pro?
cause its due to be out in Q1 of 09.......
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do they mean ship sim pro?
cause its due to be out in Q1 of 09.......
No, that is different
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What on earth could the Unmentionable Icky Stuff be..?
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AW! You had to go and mention the unmentionable stuff again. We're all doomed.
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Wow… 1st quarter of ’09..? That’s not far-away at all at this point.
Alas, I think that was a bit too optimistic, with hindsight. In reality, it will be more like Q3, maybe even Q4, I suspect.
Fred
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I think you are right fred, as always ;D
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Hehe.. I think you must only have read a small percentage of my posts then.... ;D
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That many?
Heh heh...
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Ouch.. ;D
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I should be able to tell when release nears, as Jason De Donno releases posts with pre-release Titanic pictures some time before the release on the Titanic Research & Modeling Association forum. At least, it seems that's what he did for Ship Simulator 2006 and 2007 (2008).
At one point, he even called the game "Titanic Simulator" in the topic of one of his threads!
I guess that "After all, it's Ship Simulator, not Titanic Simulator" comment people keep giving me is false, huh? ;D :P
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Everyone is able to tell when the release nears, as VSTEP will have announced it by then. Before that, everyone involved in the creation process, and testing, and so on, are not to reveal any information other than what VSTEP gives the green light for.
Of course Jason can post about his own work at any time he chooses, untill it's vstep property, I bet, but even then a finished model does not make a finished game.
And no, that comment is not false, Jason was just having a laugh with you people..
Fred
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So. It's false that the false comment was not false, then?
Of course, Fred may know the exact moment at which Ship Simulator 2027 will be released. But he may not be able to hint at that information until he gets the green light from someone he can't even hint that he knows about.
Get the hint?
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He never says it's a joke in this topic made before the release of SS06:
http://titanic-model.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=100&topic_id=10869&mesg_id=10869&listing_type=search (http://titanic-model.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=100&topic_id=10869&mesg_id=10869&listing_type=search)
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Hi very first sentence in his very first post says:
"Here are a couple of promotional renderings of the up and coming Titanic featured in the german Schiff Simulator."
You can read the thread title a couple of different ways.
But the modeller who produced the Titanic vessel is NOT the arbiter of when the simulator will be released. That role lives inside Vstep. There are many people involved in the development who may have a better idea, since they are involved in spects that the vessel models need in order to work properly. People such as the ships dynamics engineers, the buoyage team, the programmers, the... and so it goes on.
What makes you think that Titanic is even in SS2010/11/12? Not saying it isn't but I'm not saying that I'm not saying that it isn't, either.
Hope all this information doesn't not help. ;D
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If Titainic wasn't going to be in the next SS, he surely would've posted that news by now!
I can hardly wait for his next tiopic on the TRMA! It will most certainly be a major new development in the SS09 Titanic model! ;D If not, then the announcement of SS09's international release :P
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“Alas, I think that was a bit too optimistic, with hindsight. In reality, it will be more like Q3, maybe even Q4, I suspect.â€
~ Fred
With some hope of not rupturing any illusions which may entertain with respect to my actual age, I can say that even Q4 really isn’t all that far away either… ;)
As the sage-frog says – Time’s fun when you’re having flies!
Best regards,
Chrystine
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If Titainic wasn't going to be in the next SS, he surely would've posted that news by now!
I can hardly wait for his next tiopic on the TRMA! It will most certainly be a major new development in the SS09 Titanic model! ;D If not, then the announcement of SS09's international release :P
What makes you think he has permission to post about it at all? At this point in the development of SS10, VSTEP does not want any information spread around by any of the people involved, I am sure. And if Jason announces anything, then it will be with VSTEP's permission, or he'll break the rules, and he won't do that, I bet. And once he gets a green light to do that, VSTEP will have announced it to the rest of the world aswell. It's not like your in a special little group that gets to know stuff before the rest does, not unless rules are broken. :P
And Chrystine, very well said! ;D ;D
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If he's breaking the rules, then he's done bad things in the past several times.
SS06 international release announcement:http://titanic-model.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=100&topic_id=15982&mesg_id=15982&listing_type=search (http://titanic-model.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=100&topic_id=15982&mesg_id=15982&listing_type=search)
Poop deck walkable announcement: http://titanic-model.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=123&topic_id=564&mesg_id=564&listing_type=search (http://titanic-model.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=123&topic_id=564&mesg_id=564&listing_type=search)
Showing screenshots of him testing Titanic in SS08 pre-release: http://titanic-model.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=100&topic_id=22742&mesg_id=22742&listing_type=search (http://titanic-model.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=100&topic_id=22742&mesg_id=22742&listing_type=search)
SS08 release announcement: http://titanic-model.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=100&topic_id=23145&mesg_id=23145&listing_type=search (http://titanic-model.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=100&topic_id=23145&mesg_id=23145&listing_type=search)
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So you think that he jumps the gun when he says "ship simulator NOW available", plus links to the main site where people could go to buy it..?
That's a bit late to be called and easly announcement... that's after the fact.. and he can talk about his work.. Goax talked about his pushboat too, made several topics about it on this forum. That's their own work, that's ok.
And the same goes for his SS08 announcement, it was allready out when he said that.. So how would you be able to tell if release is near, if he announces it after the fact? That was just nonesense then.. :-\
Fred
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Now Fred, don't let facts cloud the illusion/delusion! I guess that if Mr Absolutely Huge Ship wants to believe that the person who creates the Titanic model is actually responsible for authorising the release of Ship Simulator, then no amount of facts will dispell that faith. ;)
Chrystine, when you reach my age, decades seem like hours... You are nowt but a kitten, next to me ;D Angus can of course traverse the galaxy in what seems like seconds from his viewpoint. (Oh-oh. Ihope he doesn't see this!)
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I was saying that rules were not broken.
What makes you think he has permission to post about it at all? At this point in the development of SS10, VSTEP does not want any information spread around by any of the people involved, I am sure. And if Jason announces anything, then it will be with VSTEP's permission, or he'll break the rules, and he won't do that, I bet. And once he gets a green light to do that, VSTEP will have announced it to the rest of the world aswell. It's not like your in a special little group that gets to know stuff before the rest does, not unless rules are broken. :P
And Chrystine, very well said! ;D ;D
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I was saying that rules were not broken.
Well, no you weren't, read your own words.
But that's not the point. You said that you expected some early announcements, about titanic, or even the release of the game. You were stating nonesense in an attempt to look like you have some insider information on when the game is going to be released. But in fact no announcement was ever made that wasn't allready made by VSTEP.
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Well, it DOES seem I recalled incorrectly, but I still DO enjoy the sneak peaks at Titanic I'll be getting ;D
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(http://www.bittermancircle.com/my%20images/BeatDeadHorse.gif)
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but I still DO enjoy the sneak peaks at Titanic I'll be getting ;D
Yep me too! ;D
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“And Chrystine, very well said!â€
Thanks Fred! :)
“Chrystine, when you reach my age, decades seem like hours... You are nowt but a kitten, next to me Angus can of course traverse the galaxy in what seems like seconds from his viewpoint.â€
LoL! :D
Ohhhh my, Terry..!
That’s just cute!
&nd here I was thinking I’m older than stardust…
Please pardon my doubling the chances of Angus seeing your flattery, but should it start going to his head, we might perhaps remind him the Galaxy is after-all not so big in the grand scheme of things …
;)
Best, as ever,
Chrystine
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&nd here I was thinking I’m older than stardust…
Which is strange when you come to think about it, since every atom insde you that is heavier than Lithium actually came from an exploding star, somewhere or other in this galaxy.
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:)
Yep! ..Very old indeed… (From the cosmologically very young Universe).
Although I’m not at all sure of necessity from ‘this galaxy.’ Could as well have been from Super Nova’s that far antedate our little Milky Way – and by and from which it is itself composed.
Not that we can know with any certainty either way… But it wasn’t yesterday.
Best regards,
Chrystine
P.S. A nice artistic rendering of our lovely galaxy, including a decent view of our tiny little neighborhood on the Perseus spur.
Please pardon me for one so off topic to the Forum. I just couldn’t resist. It's so pretty!
:)
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Does somone know what kind of new vessels wil come? :D
Yes. :laugh:
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Good answer Terry!!
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I need that that evil grin icon...
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The animated one!
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Yes. :laugh:
Care to elaborate?
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Yes.
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Yes.
Unless you put some REAL elaboration in your next post, I'm going to assume you don't know.
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Yes, someone does know what kind of new vessels will come.
Unfortunately, that person isn't you... :police:
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Or you, either, apparently.
And I DO know that one particular vessel will return with improvements....
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Many of the mderators are very much involved in the new stuff.
It is no secret that I am a Vessel Dynamics Engineer along with several other moderators and therefore am involved in the customising of all new vessels. So of course I know. But you don't. Trust me. :police: :police:
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In that case, can you give Titanic the dynamics I specified in a topic I made on the dynamics board?
That being a turn diameter of 11,550 feet, and a stopping distance from full ahead, engines at full astern, of 2,550 feet? 80 RPM propellers couldn't hurt either... *more jabbering later* ... and are you the one in charge of the direction that the propellers spin?
:P
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do i have to do this again, kids these days
(http://www.bittermancircle.com/my%20images/BeatDeadHorse.gif)
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In that case, can you give Titanic the dynamics I specified in a topic I made on the dynamics board?
That being a turn diameter of 11,550 feet, and a stopping distance from full ahead, engines at full astern, of 2,550 feet? 80 RPM propellers couldn't hurt either... *more jabbering later* ... and are you the one in charge of the direction that the propellers spin?
:P
No. But if a member of the original Titanic design team or sea trials team can personally vouch for those figures, I will do so.
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I just watched the trailer for 2010 and it looks suspiciously like a revamped 2008 version to me. Aside from the the enhanced land object graphics, the vessels and sea graphics look exactly the same as Ship Simulator 2008. I just hope the finished product yields something a little more exciting. I was hoping to see some hurricane force winds, new vessles, better graphics and some more realistic sea movement but I was suprised at what I saw.
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calm down, its only a teaser and we are still months away. theres probably a lot of work to be done.
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No. But if a member of the original Titanic design team or sea trials team can personally vouch for those figures, I will do so.
The figures are at titanic-titanic.com
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What is the source of these figures if I may ask, do they come from the original trials, etc?
Links would be helpfull, we're busy enough as it is without looking for specs on a website full of specs, so a specific link to a page will be usefull. Cheers!
When data is reliable and we're able to track back to 'official' (or near enough) records, it will be very helpful for the game development. But it can't just be another batch of estimates and guesses, and there is a lot of that out there, on numerous websites and forums. Well, you probably know that, you visit a lot of them I would think. :)
And I have no idea if VSTEP allready has all the 'official' data. They could well have, I reckon Jason would have hinted about such things too.. well logically speaking.
Fred
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Paragraphs 5 and 6 give the turn and stopping distance in yards: http://www.titanic-titanic.com/titanic_sea_trials.shtml (http://www.titanic-titanic.com/titanic_sea_trials.shtml)
And the following Encyclopedia Titanica article is a MUST READ!
http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/speed_v_revolutions.html (http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/speed_v_revolutions.html)
It covers everything from center propeller rpm vs wing propeller rpm to formulæ for the nonlinear function of Titanic's speed vs her wing propeller rpm.
Just the tip of the iceberg of that article's information: Titanic's center prop was hooked up at 50 rpm, and not 70 like in the game.
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oh...I can see the picture here...Arctic and the Titanic ;D
Not surprised that RMS Gigantic is very keen to get some more Titanic for his hard-earned money now :D
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Gosh... I just saw that awesome trailer of Ship Simulator 2010 ":Extreme"? Strange... but the graphics... what can I say? keep up the good work VSTEP, beautiful job :D!
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oh...I can see the picture here...Arctic and the Titanic ;D
Not surprised that RMS Gigantic is very keen to get some more Titanic for his hard-earned money now :D
I can see it now:
Titanic: No... NO... NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
;D
So that was that part of Antarctica they mentioned....
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I can see it now:
Titanic: No... NO... NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
;D
So that was that part of Antarctica they mentioned....
Looking at the vessels in the video, i'd say Titanic is going to be included. Unless all of the SS2008 ships in the video are just being used for testing at the moment.
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more realistic sea movement
To me, the seamovement looked totally different from ss2008.
And did you see the whales?
That means there really is a 3d underwater enviroment (I think).
So in my opinion, allready a lot changed.
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To me, the seamovement looked totally different from ss2008.
And did you see the whales?
That means there really is a 3d underwater enviroment (I think).
So in my opinion, allready a lot changed.
I said this in another topic, i think the Wales intro wasn't actually part of the game, but just a fancy introduction. You can never tell though, pointless just guessing things :-\
But i think they really are the white cliffs of Dover at 00:18..
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Sure you are right about Dover!
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I said this in another topic, i think the Wales intro wasn't actually part of the game, but just a fancy introduction. You can never tell though, pointless just guessing things :-\
But i think they really are the white cliffs of Dover at 00:18..
Yes Im excited about the White cliffs of dover, assuming they are...
It would be a bit sick though if you had whales in the water right where your boat was heading, what would happen if you collided with one? It wouldnt bear thinking about
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So, Terry, Fred, did either of you read my links?
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Ah yes I forgot to thank you for those. So.. thanks! ;D
Looking into it indeed!!
Fred
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You're VERY welcome!
Especially since if these changes can be made by Ship Simulator 2010, EVERYONE will win, because the goal of accuracy in dynamics will be achieved, and those who complain about inaccuracy will start shutting their traps :D :P
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Well,Ive just seen the SS2010 movie.Are you telling me VSTEP that we ll have whales on it? On a not very far post you told me that SS was not an Acuarium sim,but if you have been reconsidering sealife is very welcome.So,how is supposed we are going to see these criatures? Perhaps an underwater new vehicle like a minisub attached to an explorer oceanic boat?
Also,and going to other things,what about to implement the John P Bobo USNavy prepositioning ships or some kind to FFG or DD,just to calm my apetite?
Regards and Merry Christmas
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agreed to all the new sim should be great ;D i did some researching, and that ship in the teaser is a Greenpeace ship, its their newest and biggest called the M.V Esperanza (Spanish for “hopeâ€), sorry if this info was posted already, i haven't seen it :D
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It was posted here too: http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,12125.msg143331.html#msg143331
;D ;D
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oh geez fred, good ol holiday spirit ;D
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So, Terry, Fred, did either of you read my links?
Yes, I did. As you may be aware, I only flew in from the USA yesterday so I wasn't really up to very much. But it did seem that the threads are a sort of story, made to look like a newspaper article from the time. There were a number of figures quoted in the story, but without references to the original sources they could be genuine or invention.
Was I missing something in my jet-laggedness?
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oh geez fred, good ol holiday spirit ;D
Couldn't help myself. ;D
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The Encyclopedia-Titanica has foot notes with its sources. There are superscript numbers throughout the article that indicate which source that figure came from.
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i think the Wales intro wasn't actually part of the game
What has Wales to do with it at all? Wales is a country, part of the United Kingdom. Whales are large aquatic mammals. come on Nathan you should know that.
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You never met my girlfriend from Sawnsea then. She was a
big
girl...
When she went swimming, "large aquatic mammal" was relevant.
Just Joe King. :laugh:
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What has Wales to do with it at all? Wales is a country, part of the United Kingdom. Whales are large aquatic mammals. come on Nathan you should know that.
Wales is actually a Principality!!
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Hoy,
The promofilm about 2010 extreme is verry good,however a bit short.
I look forward to have it also.
Marc
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Would be brilliant in SS2010 the capability to navigate into the same sea-ocean(Mediterranean,Atlantic,Pacific) from one port to another,not just a harbour or individual ports with limited borders.
Also,some kind of downloadable online weather tool implementing real sky conditions and sea state-currents.That would be amazing VSTEP.
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Requests for Ship Simulator 2010;
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/tak-3008.htm
http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/2776/f100_i.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Moura
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calypso_(barco)
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Greetings to you all guy's,
I know there is a great feeling to talk about "Marmite",maybe it's a bit of a healtproblem :D :D,or a habite :D :D.
However,maybe we can start to get back on track for the topics title,which was"Shipsimulator 2010".
I know i spoiled you fun :D,but in time you all we thank me for my "coming-between" :D :D
Kind regards to all,
Marc
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ok.. ill jump in then...
i hope there's gonna be a Marmite/mushroom carrying ship in SS2010!
Someone hazzard a guess (or photoshop) how it (mar)mite look?
Regards,
Steiny
gonna scroll back and read the cookingbrochures!
Maybe a bit of White paint could convert the name on the side of this ship to "MARMITE NAVIGATION"
(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/7661/kyzikos1em6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
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Hi Chaps.
I have split off the Marmite Simulator 2010 posts into the Fabulous Marmite thread:
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,3277.msg143449.html#msg143449
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correct engine telegraphs would be nice,
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2325/2232986357_e9d981c889.jpg?v=0)
something like that wouldn't be hard to do, and a slight bit of lag would be nice too, since right now everything is instant control.
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" starts mentioning unmentionable stuff"
mumble mumble
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This two would be nice too do! ;D
http://www.vstep.nl/projects/lock_master_simulator/detail.php
http://www.vstep.nl/projects/dry_bulk_crane_simulator/detail.php
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What has Wales to do with it at all? Wales is a country, part of the United Kingdom. Whales are large aquatic mammals. come on Nathan you should know that.
Sorry about that. My brain (Yes, i do have one) wasn't switched on.