Ship Simulator
English forum => Small talk => Topic started by: firestar12 on August 30, 2008, 00:46:45
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How did they signal Titanic's Horn? HOW???!!!
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By blowing it!
What exactly do you mean?
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By blowing it!
What exactly do you mean?
Like, What BUTTON?
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What makes you think it was a button? In 1912 most horns or whistles were controlled with lanyards.
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I could be wrong but I think that the Titanics pilot house was far enough from the cross feed valve that the wire ran through most of the rooms on the top deck so any tall man could blow the whistle if he had enough leverage. ;D
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To noons surprise there was hadles at the bridge. These handles were situated so you could blow the wistle from both starbord ad port side of the bridge.
The exact location I do not know but there were 2 different handles: one for manual signal and one for automatic signal.
The manual one was operating the first funnel whistle and the automatic was operating the 2nd funnel. 3rd and 4th did not function but was there for the looks.
How the handle was connected I do not know but I strongly believe it was electric.
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As Marty has said, the whistle on Titanic was activated by means of wire lanyards which were attached to levers on each wing of the bridge and then strung through small pulleys to the lever at the base of the whistle. Perhaps, in this day and age, considered to be crude, but in fact a very effective and positive method of sounding the whistle. BTW they did not use the term "horn" in those days. If you look at a steam whistle, that is exactly what it is, a very large whistle. I strongly suspect that there would have been no electric connection, nor would there have been any automatic system. There was an officer on duty to blow the whistle manually when required. :o
Angus.
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I know I saw the whistle wire on the Sabino and it went through the floor of the pilot house and into the engine room one inch below the ceiling.
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nor would there have been any automatic system. There was an officer on duty to blow the whistle manually when required. :o
Angus.
The automatic system was the Willett-Bruce system and could make a blast every one minute :)
The electrical whistle control apparatus was supplied by T. Downie & Co., Liverpool. How exactly it was installed I do not know but it suggest that there was some form of electricity involved.
On the picture I have of the Willett-Bruce system there is also a "Lanyard to Bridge" shown so maybe both system were implemented. I will have to ask around to find out.
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There are also nice details also about the system at the bottom of this page (http://copperas.com/titanic/), extracts from "The Shipbuilder".
Regards,
Luc
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THE SHIPBUILDER, my former Titanic Bible. How could I forget to consult that book. Nice page by the way :)
I consulted (and should have posted that) "Titanic, the ship magnificient Volume one". The 2 volumes are really great well researched books.
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Gentlemen, I stand corrected. I was making an assumption not based on fact for which I humbly apologise. Even in my early days at sea the ships I sailed on 40 years after the "Titanic" had no fancy gear like shown in LUc's post. We just had to stand out in the fog and pull the lever as needed. ;)
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We just had to stand out in the fog and pull the lever as needed. ;)
Naaa they just told you that to keep you busy and out of the way :)
No need to apologize. Questions like this just expands the knowledge of our grand lady and improves my model :)
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im just wondering if your in the helm what button or what string do i pull to sound the horn
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You press "h" key on your keyboard to use Titanic's whistle. I do it all the time, it's fun ;D
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The Titanic Expert should know that there was no H key on the Titanic.
In the future, you should first attempt to understand the question before you answer it.
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The Titanic Expert should know that there was no H key on the Titanic.
In the future, you should first attempt to understand the question before you answer it.
+1
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The Titanic Expert should know that there was no H key on the Titanic.
In the future, you should first attempt to understand the question before you answer it.
I meant for the game, not the real Titanic.
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I meant for the game, not the real Titanic.
Well, I meant for the real Titanic, and because of that you should have been too ::) ;)
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So, is it possible that the Titanic hit the iceberg because the radio operators were pressing an H key that wasn't connected to the bridge?
Or am I getting confused here?
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So, is it possible that the Titanic hit the iceberg because the radio operators were pressing an H key that wasn't connected to the bridge?
Or am I getting confused here?
Maybe they were pressing the WRONG KEY!! Either that or they had percision steering on.
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It was Bruce Ismay’s fault. He kept calling the ship’s whistle the “horn†and insisted that Harland & Wolff use the H key instead of the W key. The bridge kept pressing the W key hoping the icebergs would get out of the way.
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It was Bruce Ismay’s fault. He kept calling the ship’s whistle the “horn†and insisted that Harland & Wolff use the H key instead of the W key. The bridge kept pressing the W key hoping the icebergs would get out of the way.
But the truth is even more disturbing. . .
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It was Bruce Ismay’s fault. He kept calling the ship’s whistle the “horn†and insisted that Harland & Wolff use the H key instead of the W key. The bridge kept pressing the W key hoping the icebergs would get out of the way.
Well that would explain it completely, then.
Perhaps now that we have solved the problem, we can write a completely fictional true-life documentary and include lots of facts about things that didn't happen, like the crew of the Enterprise beaming in 10 seconds before the collision, fighting with Darth Vader and finally escaping with Luke Skywalker into the Matrix while Commodore Ismay presses the V key to try to vaporise the looming iceberg. Of course, this is a valiant but doomed action, as the Daleks are inside the robotic iceberg, intent on destroying the Titanic.
Then we can have endless posts here by lots of knowledgeable experts telling us how they know better because they once saw a film about it.
Would that work for you?
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Well, I meant for the real Titanic, and because of that you should have been too ::) ;)
Well, I'm not sure how they blew Titanic's whistle, I know it wasn't a button. Maybe by a series of cables from the whistles to the bridge.
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Terry you forgot that the doctor bravely planted his tardis in the way of the titanic, damaging his ship and stopping the titanic dead, killing or seriously injuring all the occupants. He then went on board after absorbing the time vortex, he revived all the occupants, towed the titanic to new york and somehow managed to deceive the daleks into thinking the titanic had sank, and they created a film about it. In fact, the daleks even devised a rudimentary way of killing, by pressing the e key.
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But that can't be true. As is clearly shown in the film I once saw, the Daleks fire talcum powder out of their ray guns. And Peter Cushing was the Doctor then, before he became Van Helsing.
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TTE,
The first rule for being an expert is never admit you are not sure.
If you have read the topic, you might have noticed that others have already covered those points.
Still, it’s nice to have an expert confirm that those speculations are worth speculating.
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Hmmm, I don't know about the old doctors cos I'm too young and don't have that much time on my hands, but is was sort of thinking about david tennant nd the space titanic. Hey, that's where he put it
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Well that would explain it completely, then.
Perhaps now that we have solved the problem, we can write a completely fictional true-life documentary and include lots of facts about things that didn't happen, like the crew of the Enterprise beaming in 10 seconds before the collision, fighting with Darth Vader and finally escaping with Luke Skywalker into the Matrix while Commodore Ismay presses the V key to try to vaporise the looming iceberg. Of course, this is a valiant but doomed action, as the Daleks are inside the robotic iceberg, intent on destroying the Titanic.
Then we can have endless posts here by lots of knowledgeable experts telling us how they know better because they once saw a film about it.
Would that work for you?
How about when Vader and Smith meet, they like each other, and plot to rule the ship and anchor her WAAAY out in the boonies and trap everyone aboard! (BTW Ismay's V key was broken by harold bride that night ;D)
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This is the original titanic whistle recoverd from the ocean.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6vdR5Hp91Y
And that is not a button! ::)
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This is the original titanic whistle recoverd from the ocean.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6vdR5Hp91Y
And that is not a button! ::)
Ya i know that but wouldnt they have had to find it on a funnel? Or in a debris feild. lol.
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hmm, really dont know... :P
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TTE,
The first rule for being an expert is never admit you are not sure.
If you have read the topic, you might have noticed that others have already covered those points.
Still, it’s nice to have an expert confirm that those speculations are worth speculating.
I'm just guessing, okay?
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I'm just guessing, okay?
Guys, Guys, As Fred would say, No need to get nasty ;D Try Not to get mad. I would trust Marty. He is full of wisdom, Experiences, and coolyness. :D
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Firestar I don't see that things are getting nasty.
Perhaps you're seeing things that aren't here?
No need to reply. I am watching this thread as I watch almost all of them.
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Firestar I don't see that things are getting nasty.
Perhaps you're seeing things that aren't here?
No need to reply. I am watching this thread as I watch almost all of them.
I know Terry, But it sounded Like TTE was getting a little upset, or Cranky. I just dont want anyones feelings getting hurt as mine have in the past.
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This is the original titanic whistle recoverd from the ocean.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6vdR5Hp91Y
And that is not a button! ::)
You are right, J3nsen, that sure doesn’t sound like a button. Most buttons make a sort of click when you press them. At least the mechanical ones do. The ones you click with the mouse can make any kind of sound, but that’s programming, not the button itself.
OK, enough of that. In the demonstration the valve was operated via a lanyard, as most whistles were at that time. There is some reason to think that Titanic used that newfangled electric stuff to operate the valve. If so, the magnetic actuator might not have been recovered or was too badly corroded to be used. There s probably someone who knows.
If electricity was used, there was still probably no button. More likely it was some kind of switch activated by pulling something as one would do with a lanyard. This would avoid re-training the crew to cope with new technology.
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If electricity was used, there was still probably no button. More likely it was some kind of switch activated by pulling something as one would do with a lanyard. This would avoid re-training the crew to cope with new technology.
Electricity was indeed used. There is a picture of the switches in the book "Titanic The Ship Magnificient: Design and Construction" page 538 fig. 22-66