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firestar12

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How did they signal Titanic's Horn?
« on: August 30, 2008, 00:46:45 »

How did they signal Titanic's Horn? HOW???!!!
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mvsmith

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Re: How did they signal Titanic's Horn?
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2008, 00:54:35 »

By blowing it!
What exactly do you mean?
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firestar12

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Re: How did they signal Titanic's Horn?
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2008, 00:55:37 »

By blowing it!
What exactly do you mean?

Like, What BUTTON?
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mvsmith

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Re: How did they signal Titanic's Horn?
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2008, 02:53:53 »

What makes you think it was a button? In 1912 most horns or whistles were controlled with lanyards.
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llamalord

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Re: How did they signal Titanic's Horn?
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2008, 03:32:24 »

I could be wrong but I think that the Titanics pilot house was far enough from the cross feed valve that the wire ran through most of the rooms on the top deck so any tall man could blow the whistle if he had enough leverage. ;D
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Al Bundy

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Re: How did they signal Titanic's Horn?
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2008, 13:11:11 »

To noons surprise there was hadles at the bridge. These handles were situated so you could blow the wistle from both starbord ad port side of the bridge.

The exact location I do not know but there were 2 different handles: one for manual signal and one for automatic signal.

The manual one was operating the first funnel whistle and the automatic was operating the 2nd funnel. 3rd and 4th did not function but was there for the looks.

How the handle was connected I do not know but I strongly believe it was electric.
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Traddles

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Re: How did they signal Titanic's Horn?
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2008, 14:55:50 »

As Marty has said, the whistle on Titanic was activated by means of wire lanyards which were attached to levers on each wing of the bridge and then strung through small pulleys to the lever at the base of the whistle. Perhaps, in this day and age, considered to be crude, but in fact a very effective and positive method of sounding the whistle. BTW they did not use the term "horn" in those days. If you look at a steam whistle, that is exactly what it is, a very large whistle. I strongly suspect that there would have been no electric connection, nor would there have been any automatic system. There was an officer on duty to blow the whistle manually when required. :o

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llamalord

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Re: How did they signal Titanic's Horn?
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2008, 15:23:28 »

I know I saw the whistle wire on the Sabino and it went through the floor of the pilot house and into the engine room one inch below the ceiling.
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Al Bundy

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Re: How did they signal Titanic's Horn?
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2008, 15:27:36 »

nor would there have been any automatic system. There was an officer on duty to blow the whistle manually when required. :o

Angus.

The automatic system was the Willett-Bruce system and could make a blast every one minute :)

The electrical whistle control apparatus was supplied by T. Downie & Co., Liverpool. How exactly it was installed I do not know but it suggest that there was some form of electricity involved.

On the picture I have of the Willett-Bruce system there is also a "Lanyard to Bridge" shown so maybe both system were implemented. I will have to ask around to find out.
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LucAtC

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Re: How did they signal Titanic's Horn?
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2008, 17:31:29 »

There are also nice details also about the system at the bottom of this page (http://copperas.com/titanic/), extracts from "The Shipbuilder".
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Al Bundy

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Re: How did they signal Titanic's Horn?
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2008, 19:12:13 »

THE SHIPBUILDER, my former Titanic Bible. How could I forget to consult that book. Nice page by the way :)

I consulted (and should have posted that) "Titanic, the ship magnificient Volume one". The 2 volumes are really great well researched books.
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Re: How did they signal Titanic's Horn?
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2008, 19:13:04 »

Gentlemen, I stand corrected. I was making an assumption not based on fact for which I humbly apologise. Even in my early days at sea the ships I sailed on 40 years after the "Titanic" had no fancy gear like shown in LUc's post. We just had to stand out in the fog and pull the lever as needed. ;)
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Al Bundy

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Re: How did they signal Titanic's Horn?
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2008, 19:22:05 »

We just had to stand out in the fog and pull the lever as needed. ;)

Naaa they just told you that to keep you busy and out of the way :)

No need to apologize. Questions like this just expands the knowledge of our grand lady and improves my model :)
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Re: How did they signal Titanic's Horn?
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2008, 05:42:21 »

im just wondering if your in the helm what button or what string do i pull to sound the horn
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RMS Canada

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Re: How did they signal Titanic's Horn?
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2008, 17:12:09 »

You press "h" key on your keyboard to use Titanic's whistle.  I do it all the time, it's fun  ;D
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mvsmith

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Re: How did they signal Titanic's Horn?
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2008, 18:09:36 »

The Titanic Expert should know that there was no H key on the Titanic.
In the future, you should first attempt to understand the question before you answer it.
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Nathan|C

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Re: How did they signal Titanic's Horn?
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2008, 18:38:05 »

The Titanic Expert should know that there was no H key on the Titanic.
In the future, you should first attempt to understand the question before you answer it.


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RMS Canada

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Re: How did they signal Titanic's Horn?
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2008, 21:16:03 »

The Titanic Expert should know that there was no H key on the Titanic.
In the future, you should first attempt to understand the question before you answer it.


I meant for the game, not the real Titanic. 
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firestar12

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Re: How did they signal Titanic's Horn?
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2008, 21:17:06 »

I meant for the game, not the real Titanic. 
Well, I meant for the real Titanic, and because of that you should have been too ::) ;)
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TerryRussell

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Re: How did they signal Titanic's Horn?
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2008, 22:18:01 »

So, is it possible that the Titanic hit the iceberg because the radio operators were pressing an H key that wasn't connected to the bridge?

Or am I getting confused here?
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firestar12

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Re: How did they signal Titanic's Horn?
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2008, 23:04:48 »

So, is it possible that the Titanic hit the iceberg because the radio operators were pressing an H key that wasn't connected to the bridge?

Or am I getting confused here?
Maybe they were pressing the WRONG KEY!! Either that or they had percision steering on.
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mvsmith

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Re: How did they signal Titanic's Horn?
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2008, 23:58:50 »

It was Bruce Ismay’s fault. He kept calling the ship’s whistle the “horn” and insisted that Harland & Wolff use the H key instead of the W key. The bridge kept pressing the W key hoping the icebergs would get out of the way.
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firestar12

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Re: How did they signal Titanic's Horn?
« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2008, 00:00:15 »

It was Bruce Ismay’s fault. He kept calling the ship’s whistle the “horn” and insisted that Harland & Wolff use the H key instead of the W key. The bridge kept pressing the W key hoping the icebergs would get out of the way.
But the truth is even more disturbing. . .
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TerryRussell

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Re: How did they signal Titanic's Horn?
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2008, 16:46:37 »

It was Bruce Ismay’s fault. He kept calling the ship’s whistle the “horn” and insisted that Harland & Wolff use the H key instead of the W key. The bridge kept pressing the W key hoping the icebergs would get out of the way.

Well that would explain it completely, then.

Perhaps now that we have solved the problem, we can write a completely fictional true-life documentary and include lots of facts about things that didn't happen, like the crew of the Enterprise beaming in 10 seconds before the collision, fighting with Darth Vader and finally escaping with Luke Skywalker into the Matrix while Commodore Ismay presses the V key to try to vaporise the looming iceberg. Of course, this is a valiant but doomed action, as the Daleks are inside the robotic iceberg, intent on destroying the Titanic.

Then we can have endless posts here by lots of knowledgeable experts telling us how they know better because they once saw a film about it.

Would that work for you?
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RMS Canada

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Re: How did they signal Titanic's Horn?
« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2008, 16:56:59 »

Well, I meant for the real Titanic, and because of that you should have been too ::) ;)

Well, I'm not sure how they blew Titanic's whistle, I know it wasn't a button.  Maybe by a series of cables from the whistles to the bridge.
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