Ship Simulator

English forum => Ship Simulator Extremes => Topic started by: leeoc on June 09, 2010, 23:39:35

Title: new to me
Post by: leeoc on June 09, 2010, 23:39:35
hi, im new to the forum and new to pc gaming :2thumbs:

i am hoping to buy the new ship sim extremes game but im not sure weather i have to own the previous games for this one to work? also can this game be controled with a joystick?

answers will be much appriciated ;D

what are the option 1,2,3 ect i have to choose to post this message ??? ???
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: The Ferry Man on June 09, 2010, 23:50:13
hi, nope no need to have any previous game. You can play with a joystick, good for Red jet 4 I hear, but not required  :thumbs:
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: leeoc on June 09, 2010, 23:52:53
cheers, thanks for the help :)
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: The Ferry Man on June 09, 2010, 23:55:12
No problem  :thumbs:
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: matt5674 on June 09, 2010, 23:57:01
I don't think this topic should have a poll. Ship Simulator Extremes doesn't need either SS06 nor SS08. SSE is its own game of the Ship Simulator Series. And any joysticks and controllers ARE optional with the Keyboard/Mouse controls.
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: leeoc on June 10, 2010, 00:03:21
will ss08 work on windows 7?
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: TJK on June 10, 2010, 05:19:13
will ss08 work on windows 7?

HI

Yes and no :doh: some have big problem with it and some have no problem. ss08 do not support win7 but you can try run it as an administrator

TJK
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: McGherkin on June 10, 2010, 07:29:53
He was talking about SSE, Tore  :doh:

The truth is, we don't know. I should think that Vstep will test the game on Windows 7, but they might not.
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: TJK on June 10, 2010, 07:34:05
He was talking about SSE, Tore  :doh:

The truth is, we don't know. I should think that Vstep will test the game on Windows 7, but they might not.

Oh...  well i say ss o8
will ss08 work on windows 7?
but  then i can say SSE will support windows 7, if you see here http://www.shipsim.com/products/shipsimulatorextremes

System requirements for SSE
Operating system: Windows XP, Vista or Windows 7
Processor: Pentium 4 2.4GHz or AMD equivalent
Memory: 1GB (Windows XP) or 2GB (Vista or Windows 7)
Video card: NVIDIA GeForce 6800 or ATI Radeon X1800 (with 256MB Memory)
Hard drive space: 3,2GB
Input controllers: Mouse with scroll wheel (Joystick, Joypad or Steering wheel are optional)

and yes it will be tested on win7  :thumbs: 

Tore
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: Captain. Mitch on June 10, 2010, 12:08:40
Hello!

First of all, leeoc welcom to the forum, and have fun!!

Maybe you get that from "The Sims" games, who need all versions to play the latest.
But in "Ship Simulator" that's not needed! You can buy the "Ship Simulator Extremes" and play it, you don't need the previous versions to play!
You can play with the joystick, also there is a console on the www.shipsim.com wich you can buy and sail with it as a great captain. You can find all info at the shipsim.
It's very intersting to play on that.

About Windows 7, the game should DEFINITLY WORK! This sistem is created for all of the new games, it has the best engine, also it's optimized for the games. All the new games should works perfectly on the Windows 7!

I'm playing it on the Windows 7, the ShipSim 2006 and the ShipSim2008, and it works perfectly.
I didn't have ANY, BUT ANY problem. It works just great, so you don't should be vorey about that question.

Kind regards.
Capt. Mitch
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: Panda on June 12, 2010, 07:32:27
What is the min system requirements for SSE? I really like the game, but unfortunately, I only have an old computer (Pentium4 CPU 3.2 GHz, 2GB DDR2 RAM with NVIDA GeForce 9500GT 1GB graphic card), can I still able to run the game? please advise ???
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: TJK on June 12, 2010, 07:36:02
Hi

if you scroll  3 posts above you see the answer on you question

http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php/topic,19021.msg257493.html#msg257493
TJK
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: leeoc on June 12, 2010, 14:22:17
cheers for your help all,

ive just got a copy of ss08 and a saitek cyborg x flight stick so hopfully i will be playing soon :)
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: Panda on June 13, 2010, 14:45:40
Will SSE come with a ship editor? then I can edit the colour of the ships?   
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: K Jack on June 13, 2010, 14:59:37
Will SSE come with a ship editor? then I can edit the colour of the ships?  


I doubt it would come with ship editor but i don't think you could change colours on ships since Vstep already design these ships just for realism and dynamics to be the exact replica of a particular ship.
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: Captain. Mitch on June 13, 2010, 19:17:57
But i don't understand?

These "Ship Edtior" is maybe going to be what????
If we can not edit the ship, for what for it will be these ship editor?????

Kind regards.
Capt. Mitch!
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: TJK on June 13, 2010, 20:17:54
HI

I wonder were have your this from, the game will come with an ship editor, I can't see this info no were on the website  

http://www.shipsim.com/products/shipsimulatorextremes
and nothing here
http://www.paradoxplaza.com/games/ship-simulator-extremes

TJK

Title: Re: new to me
Post by: JHB on June 13, 2010, 20:54:55
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Title: Re: new to me
Post by: mvsmith on June 13, 2010, 21:20:35
Hi Tore,

Back in January, in a press interview with Frank, the reporter wrote that there would be a “Ship editor” in SSE. He was mistaken. He was thinking of the Mission Editor.

Regards,
Marty

http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php/topic,18708.msg253615.html#msg253615 (http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php/topic,18708.msg253615.html#msg253615)

http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/106/1062786p1.html (http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/106/1062786p1.html)
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: Captain. Mitch on June 13, 2010, 23:03:56
Yes.

That's the web site where we get that out: http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/106/1062786p1.html

There are also some topic on the forum.
It was strange to me, the ship editor, that sound to perfect to be true.

So on the end, that's not true?? Oh that's bad  :blush:. Anyway, i guess that's not true, it would be to great to have that, and also it sounds to complicated...

Kind regards.
Capt. Mitch
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: krytsch on June 15, 2010, 23:44:11
That's the web site where we get that out: http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/106/1062786p1.html

There are also some topic on the forum.
It was strange to me, the ship editor, that sound to perfect to be true.

So on the end, that's not true?? Oh that's bad  :blush:. Anyway, i guess that's not true, it would be to great to have that, and also it sounds to complicated...

Well, I think the entire article is pure copy-and-paste-work. I don't believe that the author ever has seen the game. Hollow stuff, which most of us could have written ...
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: Aad The Pirate on July 18, 2010, 23:31:14
Oh...  well i say ss o8  but  then i can say SSE will support windows 7, if you see here http://www.shipsim.com/products/shipsimulatorextremes

System requirements for SSE
Operating system: Windows XP, Vista or Windows 7
Processor: Pentium 4 2.4GHz or AMD equivalent  
Memory: 1GB (Windows XP) or 2GB (Vista or Windows 7)
Video card: NVIDIA GeForce 6800 or ATI Radeon X1800 (with 256MB Memory)
Hard drive space: 3,2GB
Input controllers: Mouse with scroll wheel (Joystick, Joypad or Steering wheel are optional)

and yes it will be tested on win7  :thumbs:  

Tore
And that, my friends, is history:

Operating system: Windows XP (Min. service pack 2), Windows Vista or Windows 7.
32 and 64 bits OS supported
Memory: 2GB (Windows XP) or 3GB (Vista or Windows 7)
Processor: 3 Ghz P4 Intel or AMD equivalent processor
Video card: Geforce 8800GT or ATI Radeon 4850 with 256MB ram (At least Shader model 3.0)
Hard disc space: 3,5GB
Drive: 4x PC DVD-ROM
Input controllers: Mouse with scroll wheel
Sound: DirectX 9.0c compatible
DirectX: Version 9.0c
Controller: Optional controller support DirectX 9.0c compatible
Internet: Broadband Internet connection required for Multiplayer

@ VSTEP:
Are this the minimum or the recommanded spec's ??
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: The Ferry Man on July 18, 2010, 23:36:37
This seems to be the question of the day  :-\

It appears if it is so there will be a lot of people disappointed...

its not just the processor either...

memory, video card, HD space

I think SSE is going to end up more powerful then most users PCs...
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: krytsch on July 18, 2010, 23:40:33
Well, some days ago the requirements were as they are listed by TJK.

So I'm quite upset about that - because I already have updated my CPU - and the graphics card should easily be good enough. Now I red the new specs, and neither the CPU nor the graphics card are good enough. With these specs I need a new PC - and it has to be high end. And I do NOT buy an expensive PC just for one game.
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: TJK on July 18, 2010, 23:49:06
If you read my previus answer one more time then you see the link
http://www.shipsim.com/products/shipsimulatorextremes
and their you alvise will find the corect answer for the spes question

right now it say and can still be changed

System requirements
Operating system: Windows XP (Min. service pack 2), Windows Vista or Windows 7.
32 and 64 bits OS supported
Memory: 2GB (Windows XP) or 3GB (Vista or Windows 7)
Processor: P4 Intel 3 Ghz or AMD equivalent processor
Video card: Geforce 8800GT or ATI Radeon 4850 with 256MB ram (At least Shader model 3.0)
Hard disc space: 3,5GB
Drive: 4x PC DVD-ROM
Input controllers: Mouse with scroll wheel
Sound: DirectX 9.0c compatible
DirectX: Version 9.0c
Controller: Optional controller support DirectX 9.0c compatible
Internet: Broadband Internet connection required for Multiplayer

but it can also be a typo do


Title: Re: new to me
Post by: krytsch on July 18, 2010, 23:55:36
Quote
If you read my previus answer one more time then you see the link
http://www.shipsim.com/products/shipsimulatorextremes
and their you alvise will find the corect answer for the spes question

I know that these were the specs when you posted. Unfortunately they have changed since - and now my anticipation has gone - and the money for the CPU too.

There is a really huge difference between a 2,4 GHz CPU and a 3 GHZ CPU.*
And
there is a really huge difference between a Geforce 6800 and a Geforce 8800GT!

So now I will forget everything about SSEx.*

EDIT July 20, 2010:
Some forum members' (especially TJK's and Riddip's) comments have made me think it over and change my mind.

See also http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php/topic,19344.msg263034.html#msg263034
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: The Ferry Man on July 18, 2010, 23:58:21
Looking at "PCworld" one of the main PC shops in the UK, only 11 PCs meet the requirement for 3GHz, out of 79

I see problems with SSE...  :-\
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: krytsch on July 19, 2010, 00:02:04
Quote
Looking at "PCworld" one of the main PC shops in the UK, only 11 PCs meet the requirement for 3GHz, out of 79
... and what are the prices for these machines?
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: The Ferry Man on July 19, 2010, 00:02:34
£500 upwards

quite a bit...
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: krytsch on July 19, 2010, 00:06:24
... about 750 euro.

Less expensive than I have thought, but more than i am willing to spend for a single game.
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: The Ferry Man on July 19, 2010, 00:07:09
... about 750 euro.

Less expensive than I have thought, but more than i am willing to spend for a single game.

Well I brought this PC mainly to play SS08, so I am not wanting to buy another expensive one just for SSE
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: Aad The Pirate on July 19, 2010, 00:07:28
I think SS EXtremes will run on my 2,6 GHz double core machine with the graphic adjustments like this in the attachement  :evil:
But if that will be look nice?  :thumbdown:
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: krytsch on July 19, 2010, 00:26:49
Hi Aad!

If SSEx supports multithreading (which SS08 doesn't) it might work with higher adjustments too.
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: Aad The Pirate on July 19, 2010, 00:32:04
Yep, and that's a big IF.
Nobody but VSTEP knows, and VSTEP don't (will not) tell.  :thumbdown:
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: TJK on July 19, 2010, 00:51:15
Hi Aad!

If SSEx supports multithreading (which SS08 doesn't) it might work with higher adjustments too.
well after the 1.4.o patsh the SS 08 support supports multithreading  so i think SSE will that to
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: Frank_VSTEP on July 19, 2010, 09:09:40
Yep, and that's a big IF.
Nobody but VSTEP knows, and VSTEP don't (will not) tell.  :thumbdown:

Can't remember you asking us, Aad?
Parts of SSE will have multithreading, so you will have some enhanced performance.

Frank
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: krytsch on July 19, 2010, 09:42:13
well after the 1.4.o patsh the SS 08 support supports multithreading  so i think SSE will that to

Can you please tell me how this is activated in SS08 - or must it be activated at all? My SS08 (version 1.4.2 , build 1038) only uses one core of my dual core processor, and this core is always about 100 % busy, while the other core is about 0-3 % busy.

See attachment:
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: TJK on July 19, 2010, 10:00:00
Well all i can say are that my quad processor use all 4 see pic, this is from running shipsim 2008 / 1.4.2 / 1038

and it something our old Administrator DJM Carl say in a post to http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php/topic,208.msg3247.html#msg3247


Title: Re: new to me
Post by: The Ferry Man on July 19, 2010, 10:24:34
What is multithreading?
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: TJK on July 19, 2010, 10:28:14
For more information on Dual-core CPU's, try the Wikipedia link here FM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-core_(computing)
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: The Ferry Man on July 19, 2010, 10:44:22
 :o

Oh my... very technical...
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: krytsch on July 19, 2010, 10:49:56
... and it something our old Administrator DJM Carl say in a post to http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php/topic,208.msg3247.html#msg3247

In this thread or post I can't see a way to activate the other core(s) - only a description of the way how multiple cores may or may not work together. Like me other authors in this thread have experienced too, that only one core is used. Maybe it depends on the operating system or the CPU itself. So I probably have to live with it - which I have managed to do done all the time ...  :-\

... and - to be honest - I do not understand very much of the Wikipedia article mentioned there  ???.

But I just notice - this is a bit off topic here in a SSEx-thread.
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: McGherkin on July 19, 2010, 18:50:37
Looks like SSE is gonna be way out of my price range. Shame.

To be honest, what's the point of making a simulator only a lucky few can play?

Frank!!!
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: oceandream on July 19, 2010, 19:06:52
too bad too bad..
looks like ill just will have too with SS08,VS, and FSX :C
Title: Re: new to me
Post by: krytsch on July 19, 2010, 19:16:05
Hi McGherkin and oceandream

As mentioned before, the listed 3 GHz processor is a single-core P4 processor, which is quite an old model.
Since I've realised that, I'm not very afraid anymore. A modern multi core processor should beat this one.

Of course we had to reckon that all the things that we have asked for in the last months - better harbours, better water surface, bigger environments etc. - costs more calculating power - so it is only natural, that the requirements are higher than for SS08.

But this is a usual process in every software series.