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Title: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: mvsmith on March 11, 2011, 09:00:11
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqinthenews/2011/usc0001xgp/#summary (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqinthenews/2011/usc0001xgp/#summary)
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Agent|Austin on March 11, 2011, 09:03:28
Prayers for everyone affected by this devastating earthquake.
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on March 11, 2011, 09:06:46
The world is such a cruel place...

I'll be thinking of them :(
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: K Jack on March 11, 2011, 12:18:39
And there is a tsunami warning for the whole Pacific Basin following that earthquake, which includes Hawaiian Islands and West Coast of North and South America. Philippines, Australia, Indonesia, New Zealand, Fiji, Solomon Islands and other such Pacific islands are also in the path of the tsunami. China and Taiwan are virtually in path of this tsunami as well.
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Post by: oceandream on March 11, 2011, 13:10:15
oh dear  :o
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Mslb_Eemshoorn on March 11, 2011, 14:37:43
OHH MY GOD There goes a nature disaster over the hole world.... also west coast of America can be attacked by the tsunami....
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: MokMok on March 11, 2011, 14:52:15
Yep, we are approaching the year 2012, in which enormous disasters wil strike the planet according to the Mayan calendars!
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: --tractorman-- on March 11, 2011, 20:13:55
They'll be back to normal in most places in a month or two..


"Watch out San Fran', your next!"
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: oceandream on March 11, 2011, 20:18:23
stop talking that
i live on a small island
24 seconds on a 6 point eartquack is more then enought to destroy it 100%  :( :evil:
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: --tractorman-- on March 11, 2011, 20:21:39
Well theres not much point in thinking all depressed about it, okay yes, it's sad that they died from it, but loads of people die from things every day, you don't see the news and everyone getting sad over them?

It's a natural distaster, its just one of the worlds things we can't do anything about, it happens we just have to move on
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Ballast on March 11, 2011, 20:21:59
stop talking that
i live on a small island
24 seconds on a 6 point eartquack is more then enought to destroy it 100%  :( :evil:

It still beats living under the sea level  :P
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: saltydog on March 11, 2011, 20:24:14
I learned today that because of the quake Japan has moved 2 metres to the East..
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: --tractorman-- on March 11, 2011, 20:26:26
I learned today that because of the quake Japan has moved 2 metres to the East..

Ah I've been waiting for that to crop up, quite interesting actually, two metres might not seem a lot genrally, but its a fair bit for a whole island at once
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Agent|Austin on March 11, 2011, 20:49:19
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The first waves from a tsunami caused by a 8.9 magnitude earthquake in Japan reached the U.S. mainland along the Oregon and Washington coasts Friday morning, sparking evacuations but causing no immediate major damage.

The National Weather Service said the first wave of the tsunami to hit the Washington Coast measured 1.6 feet at La Push and about half a foot at Neah Bay and Port Angeles.

Science and Operations officer Kirby Cook said the tsunami advisory is still in effect for the Washington Coast and more waves could be on the way. Cook says more waves are landing in California and that means Washington and Oregon can expect more as well.

Cook said the advisory will remain in effect until the tsunami center in Alaska calls it off.

An AP photographer reported vigorous wave activity on the coast near Moclips, similar to any stormy day on the Washington Coast.

“We may have dodged a bullet on this one,” said Grays Harbor County Undersheriff Rick Scott.

As of 8:00 a.m, Scott said his deputies would continue to monitor the situation on the coast for  "at least the next hour.”

A tsunami wave of about 3.3 feet was forecast for the Washington coast, but forecasters said later waves could be larger.

Residents in coastal regions of Washington, Oregon and California had been urged to evacuate after the massive earthquake in Japan.

Officials in two coastal Washington counties used a reverse 911 system, phoning residents on the coast and in low-lying areas and asking them to move to higher ground.

Scott said coastal residents in Grays Harbor did a good job of voluntarily moving.  An emergency center in Montesano has been opened, located at 310 W Spruce Ave. 

'Subtle' waves reported in Oregon

Geophysicist Gerard Fryer at the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center in Honolulu said high water reached Port Orford, Ore., around 7:30 a.m. PST Friday.

On Oregon's southern coast, the first reports of high water from the tsunami waves call the effects minor and "extremely subtle" in Port Orford. 

Motel operator Rockne Berge said that from 130 feet up on a bluff above the beach, he saw a band of wet sand 40 yard to 50 yards wide -- an indication of a wave larger than usual.

City Administrator Mike Murphy said the waves were surging between about the levels for high and low tide. So far, there were no reports of damage and the city's low-lying areas have been evacuated. Murphy said most of the city is above that mark.   

An Oregon emergency management spokeswoman said her office is keeping Oregon's coastal counties updated on what to expect.

The Tsunami Warning Centers has these alert definitions:

    * Information statement: This comes out first. Minor waves at most and no action is needed by people living by the shore.
    * Watch: Danger level not known
    * Advisory: Strong currents likely. People are advised to stay away from the water; don't wade in, get away from the shoreline.
    * Warning: Inundating waves. Full evacuation suggested.

 

Tsunami prompts alerts, evacuations across the Pacific

The tsunami, spawned by an 8.9-magnitude earthquake in Japan, slammed the eastern coast of Japan, sweeping away boats, cars, homes and people as widespread fires burned out of control. It raced across the Pacific at 500 mph—as fast as a jetliner—although tsunami waves roll into shore at normal speeds.

President Barack Obama said the Federal Emergency Management Agency is ready to come to the aid of Hawaii and West Coast states as needed. Coast Guard cutter and aircraft crews were positioning themselves to be ready to conduct response and survey missions as soon as conditions allow.

Kauai was the first of the Hawaiian islands struck by the tsunami. Water rushed ashore at least 11 feet high near Kealakekua Bay, on the west side of the Big Island, and reached the lobby of a hotel. Flooding was reported on Maui, and water washed up on roadways on the Big Island.

Scientists and officials warned that the first tsunami waves are not always the strongest and said residents along the coast should watch for strong currents and heed calls for evacuation.

“The tsunami warning is not over,” said Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie. “We are seeing significant adverse activity, particularly on Maui and the Big Island. By no means are we clear in the rest of the state as well.”

A small 4.5-magnitude earthquake struck the Big Island just before 5 a.m. EST, but there were no reports of damages and the quakes weren’t likely related, a geophysicist with the United States Geological Survey said.

Many islands in the Pacific evacuated after the warnings were issued, but officials told residents to go home because the waves weren’t as bad as expected.

In Guam, the waves broke two U.S. Navy submarines from their moorings, but tug boats corralled the subs and brought them back to their pier. No damage was reported to Navy ships in Hawaii.

The warnings issued by the Hawaii-based Pacific Tsunami Warning Center covered an area stretching the entire western coast of the United States and Canada from the Mexican border to Chignik Bay in Alaska.

In the Canadian pacific coast province of British Columbia, authorities evacuated marinas, beaches and other areas.

In Alaska, a dozen small communities along the Aleutian Island chain were on alert, but there were no reports of damage from a wave just over 5 feet.

In Santa Cruz, Calif., retreating waves broke loose a couple of boats and a dock, but surfers who raced to the beach to catch the waves were undeterred.

Latin American governments ordered islanders and coastal residents to head for higher ground. First affected would be Chile’s Easter Island, in the remote South Pacific, about 2,175 miles west of the capital of Santiago, where people planned to evacuate the only town. Ecuador’s President Rafael Correa declared a state of emergency and ordered people on the Galapagos Islands and the coast of the mainland to seek higher ground.

Source: King Broadcasting Company, a subsidiary of Belo Corp.
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: danny on March 11, 2011, 21:30:45
May god have mercy on there souls.

BBC live feed :- http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698
NHK (japans news network) live feed(s) :- http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Master Captain on March 12, 2011, 02:12:44
Hopefully japan gets their nuclear power plants under control otherwise there may very well be even more devistation.
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on March 12, 2011, 10:25:53
Yeah, I've been watching it on the news this morning...Number one has exploded...worrying
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: J3nsen on March 12, 2011, 10:36:17
Two nuclear reactors are out of control. The authorities fear that the meltdown has already been started.
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on March 12, 2011, 10:45:45
Seriously worrying...

I have never understood why countries use Nuclear...yeah, it's cheap to run, but if there's an accident...?

Should have learned from Chernobyl...
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: The Ferry Man on March 12, 2011, 11:30:33
Seriously worrying...

I have never understood why countries use Nuclear...yeah, it's cheap to run, but if there's an accident...?

Should have learned from Chernobyl...

Especially somewhere prone to such bad Earthquakes...  :-\
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Agent|Austin on March 12, 2011, 11:35:23
I don't see a problem?

(http://petewarden.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/06/28/mushroomcloud.png)
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: J3nsen on March 12, 2011, 11:42:32
Neither did I, that was a very nice mushroom.
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Agent|Austin on March 12, 2011, 11:49:40
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The reactor 1 containment room has risen to 100 degree C.
They suspect the melt down already incurred.

The reactor official has tried to release some steam but have to release some radiation air also. However the containment room roof fell ( from some kind of explosions and 4 employee were hurt ).

Hope that wouldn't impact the other 3 reactors next to it.

The other nuclear site has three reactors and people has been evacuated within 10km range.

Yay
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: J3nsen on March 12, 2011, 11:56:13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSUqVxrSBBI

Look how fast the building explode! No fire, so it must have been enormous pressure in there ...
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on March 12, 2011, 12:04:01
Yeah, I watched that this morning...what concerns me is what's in that cloud of smoke....
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: marcstrat on March 12, 2011, 12:30:51
Yep, that cloud is not big, however it is nuclear loaded.It will travel around the world?
I hope the rest stays intact.
I also hope that the people of Japan,find the force to overcome this horrible disaster, and that there are not to many people lost, or wounded.
Regards
Marc
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: danny on March 12, 2011, 13:12:40
The blast was possibly a chemical or hydrogen explosion (i'll post again when i have something)
5 Nuclear reactors are now on emergancy alert.
I can confirm that the reactor has not been damaged, and preasure and raditation levels inside the reactor are failing according to AFP. Radiation levels around the plant have not risen after the explosion.
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: oceandream on March 12, 2011, 16:06:40
ohhh dear
Aruba (the island next curacao) felt a earth quack :o
I get the feeling it could strike curacao any moment or minute  :o :(
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Master Captain on March 12, 2011, 17:40:18
That explosion was caused by hydrogren mixing with oxygen, the hydrogen was being released from the reactor and is a byproduct of the cooling process. They've resorted to using sea water to try and cool down the reactors. The explosion has not damaged the reactor case itself just the wall around it leaving just a skeleton of the reactor case. Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_japan_earthquake
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: The Ferry King on March 12, 2011, 17:42:23
poor people  :(

But it happens, Who knows which country it could be next.

No one knows and not a single country can escape nature disasters :-[
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: The Ferry Man on March 12, 2011, 17:45:15
Anyone heard anymore about the ship with 100 people on it? i thought they said it was a cruise ship, but not really been mentioned since...
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: --tractorman-- on March 12, 2011, 17:46:20
I saw last night on tv that "81 people on a ship carried away by the tsunami were airlifted to safety"

thing like that
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on March 12, 2011, 17:46:50
Good to hear they were rescued
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: The Ferry Man on March 12, 2011, 17:47:50
I agree
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: The Ferry King on March 12, 2011, 17:55:38
Japan is one of the most modern futuristic countries.. But sadly in the centre of pain on earthquakes  :(
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Master Captain on March 12, 2011, 18:03:39
found a little something related to our world of shipping. One if their ports.
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: The Ferry King on March 12, 2011, 18:36:45
well that wasnt the only thing,

A whole bunch of brand new cars ready to be set on a ship were also destroyed and the ship it self nearly capsized
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: oceandream on March 12, 2011, 18:46:21
.................^^
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: alex 3d on March 12, 2011, 19:45:40
did the whales get hit by it? they where heading to japan.



and Sea Shepherd’s Cove Guardians are Alive and Unharmed
After more than twenty-four hours since we last heard from them, Sea Shepherd Director of Investigations Scott West was able to call his wife Suzanne to report that he and the entire Sea Shepherd Cove Guardian crew are alive and unharmed.

They had to abandon their two cars in the devastated port city of Otsuchi where they spent the night on a hill. The entire town around them was destroyed. They walked out over scattered debris, roads that were completely wiped out, and walked past numerous dead bodies amidst piles of rubble.  At one point yesterday they saw and heard a woman in the water screaming for help, but she was washed out to sea before they could do anything to rescue her.

The Cove Guardians went to Otsuchi to document the slaughter of Dall’s Porpoise. Every year the fishermen slaughter over 20,000 of these gentle creatures.  They had just filmed a fishing boat returning from a porpoise hunt when they saw the water in the harbor receding and they immediately headed for high ground.  The time from the Earthquake to the Tsunami striking Otsuchi was about eight minutes.

The Cove Guardians were right in the midst of the most devastating Tsunami to ever hit Japan, and we are thankful they have all survived and are well.

Scott West was only able to send out this quick message, as his mobile phone was fading:

We are all 6 safe and out of Otsuchi.  Now in Tono at hotel with no power, Internet, water, or food. Have IPhone until battery dead.  -- Scott
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Captain Cadet on March 12, 2011, 20:18:53
did the whales get hit by it? they where heading to japan.



and Sea Shepherd’s Cove Guardians are Alive and Unharmed
After more than twenty-four hours since we last heard from them, Sea Shepherd Director of Investigations Scott West was able to call his wife Suzanne to report that he and the entire Sea Shepherd Cove Guardian crew are alive and unharmed.

They had to abandon their two cars in the devastated port city of Otsuchi where they spent the night on a hill. The entire town around them was destroyed. They walked out over scattered debris, roads that were completely wiped out, and walked past numerous dead bodies amidst piles of rubble.  At one point yesterday they saw and heard a woman in the water screaming for help, but she was washed out to sea before they could do anything to rescue her.

The Cove Guardians went to Otsuchi to document the slaughter of Dall’s Porpoise. Every year the fishermen slaughter over 20,000 of these gentle creatures.  They had just filmed a fishing boat returning from a porpoise hunt when they saw the water in the harbor receding and they immediately headed for high ground.  The time from the Earthquake to the Tsunami striking Otsuchi was about eight minutes.

The Cove Guardians were right in the midst of the most devastating Tsunami to ever hit Japan, and we are thankful they have all survived and are well.

Scott West was only able to send out this quick message, as his mobile phone was fading:

We are all 6 safe and out of Otsuchi.  Now in Tono at hotel with no power, Internet, water, or food. Have IPhone until battery dead.  -- Scott
put ur iPhone on heat (not to hot  :doh:)
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Agent|Austin on March 12, 2011, 22:32:39
(http://www.familylinks.icrc.org/web/doc/siterfl0.nsf/htmlall/familylinks-japon-eng/$File/japan-earthquake-2011-03-11-z.jpg)

(http://topuspost.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/japan-earthquake-2011-1.jpg)

(http://www.geardiary.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/2011-march-11-japan-earthquake-sendai-airport-cars-planes.jpg)
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: McGherkin on March 12, 2011, 22:37:28
One of the other Fukushima reactors' emergency cooling systems has now also failed.

Good luck to the people of Japan, they need it.
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: danny on March 12, 2011, 22:40:21
another one?
Thats now 2 reactors that have started to race out of control. I hope for the love of god the japaneise know how to stop it, otherwise were going to end up having a chenobyl thats twice as big on our hands.
good luck japan
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Agent|Austin on March 12, 2011, 22:43:43
ol. I hope for the love of god the japaneise know who to stop it

They don't. That's why the US has several scientists over there helping them. lol

Well stopping it would be easy if they didn't have a 8.9 magnitude earthquake.
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: McGherkin on March 12, 2011, 22:51:59
Oh, and Japan's expecting another 2m tsunami some time soon.


The scientists they have are already some of the best, America just thinks that they have better scientists. Even with Three Mile Island and the SL-1 incidents. And they did play a vital part in some of Japan's biggest nuclear disasters, Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: The Ferry Man on March 12, 2011, 22:53:37
Oh, and Japan's expecting another 2m tsunami some time soon.

It is? Where from?  :-\
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: McGherkin on March 12, 2011, 22:56:10
Not sure, but I guess it was from the 6.4 aftershock that hit Fukushima today.
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: The Ferry Man on March 12, 2011, 22:56:41
Not sure, but I guess it was from the 6.4 aftershock that hit Fukushima today.

Another one? Ouch  :(
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: McGherkin on March 12, 2011, 22:59:30
Yeah, If I recall correctly, there have been something like 24 aftershocks with a magnitude over 6.0 since the initial quake.
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: danny on March 12, 2011, 23:01:04
Japan really did brass the planet off...
Even if the japaneise scientists are the best of the best then 2 more will not do any harm, it will also enable the west to learn the full scale of whats going on at the plant.
There also expecting a 7.9 to 8 magnetude aftershock.
From what I have heard the origonal earthquake has been upgraded to a 9.1 (which is 1000 times worse that a 8.1, 10,000 times worse than a 7.1 etc)
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: --tractorman-- on March 12, 2011, 23:08:15
Theres always earthquakes about all the time.  ::)


http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.html
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Agent|Austin on March 12, 2011, 23:08:44
(http://saliencegrp.com/fileshare/files/Screenshot.png)
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: --tractorman-- on March 12, 2011, 23:10:05
She's docked capt'n!
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: oceandream on March 13, 2011, 00:10:09
not a nice sight! :evil:
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Agent|Austin on March 13, 2011, 00:19:14
A meltdown may be under way at one of Fukushima Daiichi's nuclear power reactors, an official with Japan's nuclear and industrial safety agency told CNN Sunday.

A meltdown is a catastrophic failure of the reactor core, with a potential for widespread radiation release. However, Toshiro Bannai, director of the agency's international affairs office, expressed confidence that efforts to control the crisis would prove successful.

Meanwhile, a second reactor at the same facility failed shortly after 5 a.m. Sunday, the Tokyo Electric Power Company said, according to TV Asahi. The power company said it was having difficulty cooling the reactor and may need to release radioactive steam in order to relieve pressure.
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Agent|Austin on March 13, 2011, 04:55:49
Japanese authorities are operating on the presumption that possible meltdowns are under way at two nuclear reactors

Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano told reporters there is a "possibility" of a meltdown at the plant's No. 1 reactor, adding, "It is inside the reactor. We can't see." He then added that authorities are also "assuming the possibility of a meltdown" at the facility's No. 3 reactor.

--

Not good. :(
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Master Captain on March 13, 2011, 05:38:28
For now all reactors for the most part are ok aside from the fact that they're over heating. If theres any kind of meltdown hope for a partial one and not a full out chernobyl meltdown. If a full out chernobyl style melt down occurs not only will it create massive amounts of radiation affecting japan and that area but theres the possibility of it heading east and affecting american soil and other pacific islands aswell
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Agent|Austin on March 13, 2011, 06:32:10
For now all reactors for the most part are ok aside from the fact that they're over heating. If theres any kind of meltdown hope for a partial one and not a full out chernobyl meltdown. If a full out chernobyl style melt down occurs not only will it create massive amounts of radiation affecting japan and that area but theres the possibility of it heading east and affecting american soil and other pacific islands aswell

It has already been a partial meltdown. ???
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: saltydog on March 13, 2011, 07:04:12
It seems they have begun to inject sea water into the core for cooling..

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03/12/shaking-smoke-seen-japanese-nuclear-plant-facing-possible-meltdown/
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Agent|Austin on March 13, 2011, 07:05:27
For now all reactors for the most part are ok aside from the fact that they're over heating. If theres any kind of meltdown hope for a partial one and not a full out chernobyl meltdown. If a full out chernobyl style melt down occurs not only will it create massive amounts of radiation affecting japan and that area but theres the possibility of it heading east and affecting american soil and other pacific islands aswell

Also even in the event of a significant release from the reactor, radiation would be diluted before reaching the US. Radiation levels might increase but not enough to effect anything.

It seems they have begun to inject sea water into the core for cooling..

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03/12/shaking-smoke-seen-japanese-nuclear-plant-facing-possible-meltdown/

Havn't they been doing that, sea water and boron or something for a day now?
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: saltydog on March 13, 2011, 07:07:05
Supposedly so, let's hope it works..
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: danny on March 13, 2011, 12:04:01
I've just heard that 6 of the reactors now have broken cooling systems, anyone got anything on this?
Around 12 people have been irradiated, Although it was only a small doseage
Just seen this on the bbc live feed
"Authorities say they think that there wasn't a meltdown at the no 3 reactor - as previously thought - only at the no 1 reactor. See an explainer of meltdown here. In any case, officials are insisting that there is no significant risk to human health at present."

japaneise GOVT has confirmed risk of explosion at No3 reactor
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: J3nsen on March 13, 2011, 15:29:23
Before and after picture!

(http://gfx.dagbladet.no/labrador/157/157932/15793288/jpg/active/978x.jpg)
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Master Captain on March 13, 2011, 16:15:31
I've just heard that 6 of the reactors now have broken cooling systems, anyone got anything on this?
Around 12 people have been irradiated, Although it was only a small doseage
Just seen this on the bbc live feed
"Authorities say they think that there wasn't a meltdown at the no 3 reactor - as previously thought - only at the no 1 reactor. See an explainer of meltdown here. In any case, officials are insisting that there is no significant risk to human health at present."

japaneise GOVT has confirmed risk of explosion at No3 reactor
Yes there is a total of 6 reactors that have cooling problems, 3 at 2 different power plants.  Officials fear a partial meltdown could be happening sunday (today) but it doesn't state which reactor at which plant. They have been injecting sea water and boron into the reactors, using this method is a "hail mary" last attempt as using this method will likely render the 40 year old reactors unusable. In order for this method to be succesful they will have to be injecting water non stop for days.  Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110313/ap_on_bi_ge/as_japan_earthquake_nuclear_crisis
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Matthew Brown on March 13, 2011, 16:49:14
If you want a very detailed look at world crisises in real time click here:
http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php#

Some sources also state that the japanese whaling fleet was completely wiped out in the tsunami.
But I know for a fact that they were a week away from japan, and besides I know that they dock in the very south west of Japan thus unaffected.

Although for some, believe it if you wish:
http://glossynews.com/science-and-technology/environment/201103130441/japan-quake-silver-lining-whaling-fleet-decimated/

^^ (I've recently found out that this is referring to the coastal whaling fleet up north in Japan and not the southern ocean lot, they just haven't written it very well)
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: freeciv on March 13, 2011, 17:17:04
If you want a very detailed look at world crisises in real time click here:
http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php#

I went there and found this...
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22708709/hazard.jpg)
Should I be worried??
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Matthew Brown on March 13, 2011, 17:26:12
I looked it up for you, it's a nasty case of measles on an outbreak. So.. you should be fine  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: freeciv on March 13, 2011, 17:31:01
I looked it up for you, it's a nasty case of measles on an outbreak. So.. you should be fine  :thumbs:

 Nice...   measles sound fun!   ;D

Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Master Captain on March 13, 2011, 23:45:18
2 reactors have suffered partial meltdowns and officials fear that unit 3 could explode as did unit 1. That was caused by the release of hydrogen gas reacting with oxygen. With in the next few days the japanese will either gain control of the reactors or face full meltdowns
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Master Captain on March 14, 2011, 04:30:31
Unit number 3 has exploded just like unit 1 the building it's housed in exploded from the releasing hydrogen gas. The containment unit around the reactor itself is still unharmed like in the explosion of unit 1. Hopefully soon they make some positive progress.
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: marcstrat on March 14, 2011, 06:32:45
Thanks J3nsen, for the pics.
Its seems a simular devestating area, as in 2004 in Banda Ajheh.
I also hope that the problems with the nuclear powerplants,can be helped.I'm pretty sure that the japonese people know how to handle this kind of trouble.They trained on a weekly bases for the smal things,and yearly on a massive disaster.
Marc
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: J3nsen on March 14, 2011, 07:17:21
The explosion at No. 3 reactor was little bigger than No.1.... Look Austin, mushroom!

(http://static.vg.no/uploaded/image/bilderigg/2011/03/14/1300082149876_164.jpg)
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: marcstrat on March 14, 2011, 07:20:03
When did that blew-up.
Because on the news last night it was still standing.
Marc
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: J3nsen on March 14, 2011, 07:35:08
What appears to be another hydrogen blast has occurred at a nuclear power plant in Fukushima. No damage to the reactor chamber has been reported, but 11 people have been injured. 11:01 AM (Japan time) on Monday at the No.3 reactor of Tokyo Electric Power Company's Fukushima.
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Agent|Austin on March 14, 2011, 09:38:54
Look Austin, mushroom!

(http://www.likecool.com/Gear/Pic/Clown%20Mushroom%20Cloud/Clown-Mushroom-Cloud.jpg)  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: The Ferry Man on March 14, 2011, 11:44:58
Not quite sure how you can find this disaster quite so... humorous...  :-\
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: --tractorman-- on March 14, 2011, 14:47:24
Not quite sure how you can find this disaster quite so... humorous...  :-\

Well why be all depressed about it? Whats the point?
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: danny on March 14, 2011, 15:01:32
still, with over 2000 dead its not something you should be joking about.
Another blast has rocked the nuclear plant, and there are fears of a meltdown at reactor No1 and No3
Reactor No2 is now racing aswell, only reactors 4, 5 and 6 are still in a stable situation
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: The Ferry Man on March 14, 2011, 15:12:15
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/image_feature_1893.html

NASA image showing before and after images :/
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: danny on March 14, 2011, 15:41:35
Something interseting has just been delivered to my twitter :
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1431: More from Japanese nuclear engineer Masashi Goto: He say that as the reactor uses mox (mixed oxide) fuel, the melting point is lower than that of conventional fuel. Should a meltdown and an explosion occur, he says, plutonium could be spread over an area up to twice as far as estimated for a conventional nuclear fuel explosion. The next 24 hours are critical, he says.
#
1422: Japanese engineer Masashi Goto, who helped design the containment vessel for Fukushima's reactor core, says the design was not enough to withstand earthquakes or tsunamis and the plant's builders, Toshiba, knew this. More on Mr Goto's remarks to follow.
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Matthew Brown on March 14, 2011, 15:51:57
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/image_feature_1893.html

NASA image showing before and after images :/

One I found which is more interactive is this one:
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/jordskjelv-i-japan/bilder.php
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: The Ferry Man on March 15, 2011, 01:20:38
Well the Earthquake has been reclassified as a magnitude 9.0...

And now there has been another Explosion at the Nuclear Plants, with fears of a meltdown...
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Master Captain on March 15, 2011, 01:24:04
There has been yet a 3rd hydrogen explosion at i believe the same power plant. this time unit 2 has exploded. The explosion occured near the supression pool inside the containment vessel of the reactor, the pool was later found to have a defect. There have been temporary elevations of radiation but no wide spread radiation such as in chernobyl yet. Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110314/ap_on_bi_ge/as_japan_earthquake_nuclear_crisis   Its just amazing to see how something like nuclear power can become so deadly :-\  Hopefully they can get things under control but it just does not look promising unit 2's fuel rods have been exposed multiple times in the past 24 hours which ofcourse doesn't help in the cool down. Guess we'll all just stay tuned to the news to see what happens next, hopefully the next explosion doesn't wipe out a chunk of japan.....
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: The Ferry Man on March 15, 2011, 01:25:21
Lets hope not...:/

I think this earthquake has really shown the dangers of nuclear power... :/
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Firestar on March 15, 2011, 02:29:21
This reminds me, this morning my alarm went off and the first thing I heard was news about the nuclear explosions and/or nuclear meltdown. It was dark out, and nuclear explosions creep me out.. haha

I really hope the people of Japan get themselves back on their feet, and make a strong recovery.
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Master Captain on March 15, 2011, 05:00:44
Latest update, unit 4 at the Fukushima Dai-ichi plant is now on fire. Radiation is leaking from this plant and people with in a 19 mile radius are ordered to stay inside . Japan prime minister said there is the risk of more leaking.       I'm really worried, every headline I read is worse and worse a burning nuclear reactor is quite an issue I'd say.... Staying tuned
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Agent|Austin on March 15, 2011, 07:00:20
Nearly all of the plant's staff -- some 800 people -- have left, Edano said. Just 50 remain to carry out crucial cooling work.

"There is still a very high risk of further radioactive material coming out," the prime minister said, calling on people to remain calm. "We are making every effort possible so that no further explosion or no further leakage ... would happen."

Kan spoke as a new fire burned at the No. 4 reactor at the damaged Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant in northeastern Japan.
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Master Captain on March 15, 2011, 13:53:13
So now reactors number 2 and 4 have exploded. The water in the fuel pool at reactor 4 is suposidly boiling which could create further issues. Officials say the current state in japan is worse than Three Mile Island in 1979. Though its no where near chernobyl status since they do have containment shells around the reactors. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110315/ts_nm/us_japan_quake
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Mslb_Eemshoorn on March 15, 2011, 13:56:32
We are nearly to 2012 an the hole world goes attacked by nature and other disasters like Libia .........thats weird...
The mayas has said that the world goes under on 2012 but id don't believe it, but still.....maybe its true :thumbdown:  

Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Mslb_Eemshoorn on March 15, 2011, 14:00:58
And when the wind transports radio active material to countrys across the Pacific or over China and then to Europe........... i'm worried about it ..... :o :-[ :'(
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: danny on March 15, 2011, 16:51:24
Heres the situation at the moment.
Reactor buildings 1 2 and 3 have exploded, all were Hydrogen explosions and the containment vessels remain secure. There was a fire at No4 reactor, which has since been put out, however, The SPENT fuel storage pool is boiling, This has lead the the plants owners announcing that they are going to cool the pool via helicopters which are going to "bomb" the pool with sea-water.
As for the radiation levels have now dropped around the plant, any radiation that was released has been blown over the pacific, so there is no danger at the moment of the us becoming a giant microwave oven.
Will post more when I get it,
yours,
Dan's news agency
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: --tractorman-- on March 15, 2011, 18:44:20
I think this earthquake has really shown the dangers of nuclear power... :/

Well it isn't clever to put one somewhere which almost constantly gets earthquakes  ::)
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Agent|Austin on March 15, 2011, 18:52:54
And when the wind transports radio active material to countrys across the Pacific or over China and then to Europe........... i'm worried about it ..... :o :-[ :'(

By the time it ever gets over here, it will be so diluted it won't have any radioactivity left.
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: The Ferry King on March 15, 2011, 19:40:35
Dont get too scared about it
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: danny on March 15, 2011, 21:15:36
Don't get worried, Like other poeople have said, by the time it reaches you theres going to be very little radiation left, although there may be a ban on food production in some areas.
In short,
lead underwear is not required.
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Agent|Austin on March 15, 2011, 21:40:24
Iodine tablets are completely sold out in this state. Even though numerous agencies and universities have released studies that say there will be NO radiation.
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: freeciv on March 15, 2011, 22:09:37
Well it isn't clever to put one somewhere which almost constantly gets earthquakes  ::)

Actually the reactors were designed to withstand an earthquake; and they survived the quake just fine. It was the tsunami that caused the damage. For some reason they were not designed to withstand tsunamis...  :-\ 

 But lucky U.S reactors on the west coast are designed to withstand tsunamis so if one hit they west coast their shouldn't be any major damage.
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: The Ferry Man on March 15, 2011, 22:10:37
Actually the reactors were designed to withstand an earthquake; and they survived the quake just fine. It was the tsunami that caused the damage. For some reason they were not designed to withstand tsunamis...  :-\ 

 But lucky U.S reactors on the west coast are designed to withstand tsunamis so if one hit they west coast their shouldn't be any major damage.

Not something I would want to test out... Better to be safe then sorry...
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: freeciv on March 15, 2011, 22:18:35
Not something I would want to test out... Better to be safe then sorry...
Thats for sure!

  Unfortunately for me and a bunch of other people the reactors on the east cost are not designed to withstand a strong earthquake and tsunami. And I live ~45 miles away form one  :o
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Master Captain on March 16, 2011, 01:01:06
The nearest nuclear power plant to me is built to withstand a 6.0 magnitude earthquake, just higher than the most powerful one recorded in the state which was like 5.9 or so. Powerful earthquakes on the east coast arent that common since we're not really near any major fault lines.
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: saltydog on March 16, 2011, 02:49:48
the unnamed 50..

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/16/world/asia/16workers.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: The Ferry King on March 16, 2011, 17:01:31
They must be very brave to risk their lives for a whole continent
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: danny on March 16, 2011, 17:23:35
Those are some real brave and heroic people, staying at there posts when others have fled. May god protect them.
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Captain Best on March 16, 2011, 17:43:50
Correction: The Earthquake was updated to 9.0
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 9 moment magnitude
Post by: freeciv on March 16, 2011, 21:06:33
I heard it was updated to a 9.1 a few days ago. I guess they must have changed it to a 9.0
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Master Captain on March 16, 2011, 23:44:19
Take a look at this article theres too many things to point out and none of them are good. the unit 4 fuel pool is completly empty leaving all fuel exposed with nothing to cool it. http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110316/ts_yblog_thelookout/japans-nuclear-crisis-where-things-stand
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: The Ferry Man on March 20, 2011, 13:21:43
Another Magnitude 6.1 Aftershock has just occurred...  :-\
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: saltydog on March 20, 2011, 16:14:57
They have managed to connect some power lines to several reactor buildings.
In the next few days they will try to get the pumps running to cool things down..
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: saltydog on March 27, 2011, 14:47:55
It is possible that radiation levels have risen considerably above the normal levels, though it's hard to believe anything the Japanese officials say.. It seems the efforts of the 'Fukushima 50' were in vain..

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/03/28/3175058.htm?section=justin
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: Master Captain on March 27, 2011, 16:59:54
They stil havent gotten outside power connected to the plant as the lines run through the turbine room which has high levels of radiation preventing people from getting in there to work. Now they have radioactive water running all over the place and no where to put it. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ap_on_bi_ge/as_japan_earthquake
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: J3nsen on March 29, 2011, 01:39:56
Maybe not so popular ... But then this is a bit funny!

(http://i.imgur.com/HeaLJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: The Ferry Man on April 01, 2011, 16:18:32
Nearly a month later, there are still Aftershocks in the Honshu area  practically one a hour :/

And a lot are still quite strong too
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: The Ferry Man on April 07, 2011, 17:05:31
Another fairly big Earthquake in the same area - this one was a  Magnitude 7.1

As far as I know no Tsunami warnings are in place thankfully...
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: K Jack on April 07, 2011, 17:45:04
That quake was centered a few miles west of the epicenter of the powerful 9.0 quake.
Title: Re: Earthquake Japan 8.9 moment magnitude
Post by: The Ferry King on April 11, 2011, 14:18:22
The aftershocks are very powerful and quite painful..
I feel sorry for people who live in that area who have to keep on moving homes