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Author Topic: So, you want the perfect storm...?  (Read 78179 times)

Orinoco

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Re: So, you want the perfect storm...?
« Reply #75 on: August 20, 2007, 19:33:42 »

Stu, I wasn't for one moment suggesting that the SS EULA was in any way unfair or likely to be struck down. I apologise if it came across that way.
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bndgek582

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Re: So, you want the perfect storm...?
« Reply #76 on: September 16, 2007, 18:49:07 »

i can put the text into the file, but it wont show up in the game. anyone know why? or want to send me their file for it? anythings a good explination
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Captain Kool

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Re: So, you want the perfect storm...?
« Reply #77 on: September 17, 2007, 13:01:07 »

Just a questiong about the EULA, since you are only purchasing a license, can the owner of the game be it rockstar, activision, or VSTEP ask for the case and CD back and legally have a right to that game or not? I don't think the above made perfect sense; I'm really tired and can't think :[

off to bed.
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Doomgiver3

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Re: So, you want the perfect storm...?
« Reply #78 on: September 17, 2007, 16:19:13 »

the storm looks nice but i wish we could change the weather inside the game at main menu instead of changing the xml code ow well back to moding Empire at war
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dieselpomp

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Re: So, you want the perfect storm...?
« Reply #79 on: September 17, 2007, 17:22:37 »

looks cool bud i dont like storm :)
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traktor_boy93

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Re: So, you want the perfect storm...?
« Reply #80 on: September 20, 2007, 18:17:33 »

Hello.
I have tryed and tryed and tryed to make the wawes bigger but i can´t make it right.
I have changed first one of <Wave_Amplitude1 Type="Val"> but it didn´t work.
Then i changed everybody of them but that didn´t work either.
am i going to do something in the game (when i start it) so the wawes get bigger?
What should i do as everybody else does that i don´t ???
Please, can´t somebody tell me the hole thing from the start to the very end?

//Erik Halvorsen
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Stuart2007

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Re: So, you want the perfect storm...?
« Reply #81 on: September 21, 2007, 12:30:22 »

Just a questiong about the EULA, since you are only purchasing a license, can the owner of the game be it rockstar, activision, or VSTEP ask for the case and CD back and legally have a right to that game or not? I don't think the above made perfect sense; I'm really tired and can't think :[

off to bed.

No. Provided you have not disobeyed the licence agreement then you have the permenant licence to use it forever. There is some debate as to the legality of selling the whole and entire product and license to a third party. The theory goes that you can transport your licence to a 3rd party provided you relinquish the licence fully yourself and destroy any copies you may retain. I'm not sure whether that is a statutory thing (in some countries) or if that can be over riden by EULA. But in answer to your question, no they can not do that.

Stu
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cjordan

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Re: So, you want the perfect storm...?
« Reply #82 on: September 22, 2007, 10:19:15 »

I think what VStep has to do is allow a weather system to control the size of the waves. Download real weather into the game to mod the waves, wind and precip.
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Captain Kool

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Re: So, you want the perfect storm...?
« Reply #83 on: September 22, 2007, 10:35:07 »

No. Provided you have not disobeyed the licence agreement then you have the permenant licence to use it forever. There is some debate as to the legality of selling the whole and entire product and license to a third party. The theory goes that you can transport your licence to a 3rd party provided you relinquish the licence fully yourself and destroy any copies you may retain. I'm not sure whether that is a statutory thing (in some countries) or if that can be over riden by EULA. But in answer to your question, no they can not do that.

Stu

Cheers!
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Stuart2007

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Re: So, you want the perfect storm...?
« Reply #84 on: September 22, 2007, 12:10:55 »

I think what VStep has to do is allow a weather system to control the size of the waves. Download real weather into the game to mod the waves, wind and precip.
I suspect that there's a reason for the decision to limit the waves to 12ft (4m), when clearly larger waves would have been more popular.

I would imagine its something to do with programming the ships to respond correctly to larger waves- I doubt if larger waves would be achieved so easily as described herein if Vstep were to do it properly.

Stu
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mvsmith

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Re: So, you want the perfect storm...?
« Reply #85 on: September 22, 2007, 15:40:00 »

Before complaining about the max wave height, try driving the Arie Visser in the Disaster at Bergen mission.
My time could have been better if I hadn’t stopped to puke.
Mercifully, if unrealistically, the binocular view is rock steady.
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Stuart2007

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Re: So, you want the perfect storm...?
« Reply #86 on: September 22, 2007, 23:15:14 »

LOL. I think I must add that to the top of the list of missions to try ;)

Stu
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joeyh24

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Re: So, you want the perfect storm...?
« Reply #87 on: September 23, 2007, 17:58:52 »

i had channged the xml file that you put on ur post but my waves are still big and round i tried all sorts of diffrent variables with the amplitude frequency the setup screen says the waves will be 1000m but they really are just round and not anything special how did you get your waves to be so huge like that . ill paste below the part of the preset weather xml can you help drake ?
<Preset id="8">
      <ID Type="Val"> 9 </ID>
      <Title Type="Txt"> Preset Name </Title>
      <Time Type="Val"> 0.671642 </Time>
      <Date Type="Val"> 0.432836 </Date>
      <Month Type="Val"> 0.363636 </Month>
      <Year Type="Val"> 0.253165 </Year>
      <WindForce Type="Val"> 1 </WindForce>
      <WindDirection Type="Val"> 0.716418 </WindDirection>
      <Rain Type="Val"> 0 </Rain>
      <Thunder Type="Val"> 0 </Thunder>
      <Fog Type="Val"> 0 </Fog>
      <Stars Type="Val"> 0 </Stars>
      <Clouds1 Type="Val"> 0.492537 </Clouds1>
      <Clouds2 Type="Val"> 0 </Clouds2>
      <Clouds3 Type="Val"> 0 </Clouds3>
      <Clouds4 Type="Val"> 0 </Clouds4>
      <Clouds5 Type="Val"> 0 </Clouds5>
      <Clouds6 Type="Val"> 0 </Clouds6>
      <Wave_Frequency1 Type="Val"> 1550.61 </Wave_Frequency1>
      <Wave_Amplitude1 Type="Val"> 1e+007 </Wave_Amplitude1>
      <Wave_Direction1 Type="Val"> 0 </Wave_Direction1>
      <Wave_Frequency2 Type="Val"> 1550.07 </Wave_Frequency2>
      <Wave_Amplitude2 Type="Val"> 1e+007 </Wave_Amplitude2>
      <Wave_Direction2 Type="Val"> 72 </Wave_Direction2>
      <Wave_SpeedFactor1 Type="Val"> 72 </Wave_SpeedFactor1>
      <Wave_SpeedFactor2 Type="Val"> 0 </Wave_SpeedFactor2>
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Warspite2

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Re: So, you want the perfect storm...?
« Reply #88 on: September 24, 2007, 01:40:25 »

Those waves are just awesome! Anyone here ever seen the waves in silent hunter 4? Those are impressive too.
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JPJP2323

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Re: So, you want the perfect storm...?
« Reply #89 on: September 24, 2007, 14:49:12 »

Seams not to work anymore with 1.1 patch isnt it
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Stuart2007

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Re: So, you want the perfect storm...?
« Reply #90 on: September 24, 2007, 14:57:56 »

Maybe that's deliberate? It was stated that you weren't really supposed to do it.

Stu
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martijn

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Re: So, you want the perfect storm...?
« Reply #91 on: September 24, 2007, 15:47:22 »

You weren't supposed to do that, but as usual, people find little loop-holes :).

We closed this particular loop-hole in 1.1.
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Beekman

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Re: So, you want the perfect storm...?
« Reply #92 on: September 24, 2007, 15:54:18 »

Ah damm it this sucks now.....why cant you lot make a setting that makes big waves? and a  free program so u can reskin the ships? i was ganna try those big waves untill now!....this is a good way to lose people and not to get that  popular...
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Shipaddict

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Re: So, you want the perfect storm...?
« Reply #93 on: September 24, 2007, 16:30:05 »

Also a good way to lose warrenty...
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Stuart2007

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Re: So, you want the perfect storm...?
« Reply #94 on: September 24, 2007, 21:32:06 »

Perhaps we should start a poll. How many people will abandon ship sim becauseyou can't hack it anymore?
Stu
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ss08

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Re: So, you want the perfect storm...?
« Reply #95 on: September 25, 2007, 01:29:51 »

 :(I don't have the weather folder ??? :(
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mvsmith

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Re: So, you want the perfect storm...?
« Reply #96 on: September 25, 2007, 07:15:07 »

Perhaps we should start a poll. How many people will abandon ship sim becauseyou can't hack it anymore?
Stu

Not me Stu,
When I can’t hack it anymore, this sim will be the only thing I’ve got left. :'(
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martijn

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Re: So, you want the perfect storm...?
« Reply #97 on: September 25, 2007, 08:11:27 »

The ship dynamics were not made on those extreme waves, neither was the shader or the game's cameras.

But if you reallllyyy want it back, you can backup the file called "Environment_Ocean.cgr" from the  \Environments\ folder from 1.0 and put it in your 1.1 version. We just put a MAX() expression in there to prevent you folks creating those waves.

Of course you'll miss out on anything we improved from 1.0 to 1.1 in the ocean-shader (we fixed some artifacts). And I do not guarantee any backwards-compatibility from mixing-up versions like that.
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Stuart2007

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Re: So, you want the perfect storm...?
« Reply #98 on: September 25, 2007, 13:33:09 »

Thanks Martijn

There you go everyone... please everyone.

Martijn- is the wave height something that might be looked at in the future, or is that a really big job. I did suggest that it might be a little more than tweaking the numbers like that.

Stu
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Beekman

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Re: So, you want the perfect storm...?
« Reply #99 on: September 26, 2007, 18:46:57 »

thanks martijn i dont care if i lose my warrenty as long as i have fun im ok....(my opininon)
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