Is it just me.... or...?

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[TerryRussell]

It strikes me that the ones who complain the loudest and make the most objectionable comments are the very ones who contribute the least.
 (Terry is in Irritated Mode)  

There is an immense amount of additional input that goes on from Vstep. For instance, most games do not provide servers hosted by the Developer. You have to do it all yourslf. Vstep could have taken that route.

Most games do not provide free extras. While bug fixes might be free (and that is certainly not always the ase), very few provide substantial extras, like Vstep have done.

And as you say, one of the Developers drove in on his weekend especially to write a fix for a problem. Ever heard of Microsoft or Nintendo doing that? Of course not.

Well said, Eric.

(sorry Nathan)

[mvsmith]

Can we please forget about this? We've only just sorted it all out and now it's been brought up again

You did not start this topic, and it is not up to you to say what can be discussed here.

[NathanC]

You did not start this topic, and it is not up to you to say what can be discussed here.

I am beginning to loose my temper with your comments and attitude now 

There was no need to come back with your rude attitude and start yet another argument - probably giving me the blame again, like last time.

[Mad_Fred]

Relax gentlemen.

Nathan, you think Marty should not have come back with a comment about it, but you did the same thing.

If you say that you wish us to respect your opinions, you must also respect those of others, like the opinion Carl expressed, or Tore. Asking to 'forget about it' is then like saying, 'please do not express you opinion'.

So you cannot have it both ways, if you want to state yours, you have to let others state theirs too. If people have something to add to the discussion in a polite way, they may. Marty was not rude, he merely stated a fact. But the direct way in which he does so might seem rude to you. It doesn't seem rude to me though. You cannot tell anyone what they can or cannot say, if they don't break the rules.

And no rule was broken. The discussion itself was a valid one, it was the heated part of the discussion and unsubstantiated claims, that we have to forget about. But we all have opinions and we can always agree to disagree, but we can all express them freely.

So let's all take a breath a realise that there's no problem here, mate.

Regards,
Fred

[NathanC]

Relax gentlemen.

Nathan, you think Marty should not have come back with a comment about it, but you did the same thing.

I am not just going to stand there and let someone be rude to me 

[TerryRussell]

Hi Nathan.

It's all in the viewpoint. Personally, I enjoy Marty's "straight to the point" comments. I never saw that as rude, merely direct.

There is a lot of pussy-footing that goes on here while people try so hard to find ways to nearly say what they mean. I'm probably a bit more blunt than some.

But Marty didn't call you names or insult your intelligence. He didn't start a separate thread claiming that you weren't worth having (oh, no. That's reserved for people who want to attack the Moderators!). He directly stated a perfectly good fact.

Like you, Marty contributes a great deal to this community. There is no need for disagreement between you. So, please don't see insult where it isn't intended. I think I know Marty well enough to say this. 

[IRI5HJ4CK]

Hi everyone,

I already said my point before, i'm not getting involved again. I'm just saying this so you don't think i tried to make trouble then leave for the fun of it. (I don't mean that in an ignorant way )

I just don't want fighting again. At the moment things aren't too good, i have a funeral to attend tomorrow. And i feel i have already made my point that v-step HAVE done and excellent job, BUT they have much to improve, but overall i am pleased with the progress that has been made over the time span of SS06 and SS08.

I respect EVERYONE's opinion and i respect everyone as members of this community, but, i think that because we are different, we all think differently, and act different in situations.

Lets all get along, i'm willing to make up with people i've had disagreements with in this thread. Like Marty for example. And i want to treat everyone the same.

Jack.

[Captain Best]

Hi All.
I dont think ShipSim08 is not bad.
I dont play missions because im dont have so good computers for mission. but in Free Roam and Mp its going fast. and i never get tired of playing it.

Thats what i feel for the game.
i will never go tired of playing it. i

[NathanC]

I dont think ShipSim08 isnt bad.

That means you think it's bad 

And we never said anything about the game being bad, we said VSTEP were poor at listening to us 

[Captain Best]

That means you think it's bad 

And we never said anything about the game being bad, we said VSTEP were poor at listening to us 

i did mean It WASNT BAD. It was not bad at all. ShipSim08 Are the best game i've played ever

[TerryRussell]

Yeah, when I read that, I thought "Hmmm.. that means it is bad. Should I crack a joke?".

But with all the hot feelings around I thought, I'd better not try to be funny. 

[Captain Best]

Yeah, when I read that, I thought "Hmmm.. that means it is bad. Should I crack a joke?".

But with all the hot feelings around I thought, I'd better not try to be funny. 

you. know. im not good at english. but i did mean It dont was bad

[TerryRussell]

you. know. im not good at english. but i did mean It dont was bad

Yes, I realised that. I just didn't want to make a joke about it with all of the hot feelings arund here recently.

Don't worry. Your meaning was perfectly obvious.

[Water Weasel]

If I didn't like SS08 I wouldn't have bought it. I enjoyed SS06 and I aprreciate the improvemants made over these many months. I also own NH and am well plesed with the product.
What I will say again is...I would like to see more interactivity in the game. More things that work on each vessel and therefore more options in the missions. What I don't like to see is going to a completely new game every couple of years. Most of us out here in ShipSimLand have limited funds and can't upgrade our hadware that often.

WW

[Mad_Fred]

In a perfect simworld, games would be upgraded endlessly and not replaced... And they would get better and better and better without a limit.

Unfortunatly, there is not enough money to be made that way for one thing. The really big boys do it too, microsoft releases a new FS each couple of years aswell. So from a business standpoint, it's necessary to replace games, to be able to make games in the first place, so to speak. 

Some changes can not be made without creating something new from scratch, a lot of 'systems' can only be upgraded or worked out within certain limits. So technically, Every game is heading for a dead end, right from day 1, eventually there is no more room for MAJOR improvement or change.

That's why it's better to create a new game when the major features can possibly be replaced by better things, rather than continuing on the same thing.

Well that's how I see it.

And I agree with you, I would like to see much more 'control' over things. I'd like to see it evolve towards what flightsims offer, lots and lots of systems to be run and monitored on board and more things to do with the ships aswell as the enviroment.

Regards,
Fred

* edit; typo