Topic: Titanic Trivia (Read 29197 times)

Stuart2007 · « **Reply #75 on:** April 08, 2008, 22:15:02 »

Everything we know today comes from ancient Egypt?

I'm not aware of the Egyptians using it, but I wouldn't swear to it.

trains · « **Reply #76 on:** April 08, 2008, 22:22:16 »

most everything. boat building ideas was one. so your sig's wrong

Stuart2007 · « **Reply #77 on:** April 08, 2008, 22:27:10 »

I think that the ability to float boats (dugouts, coracles etc) happened all over the world at broadly the same time.

The Greeks had rather more extensive shipping experience than the Egyptians (though you'd never believe it judging by their 'modern' ferries).

As I said, my signature is spot on. I can't help it if reality is slow to catch up.

trains · « **Reply #78 on:** April 08, 2008, 22:31:35 »

but where did the Greeks get the ideas. true the Greeks and Romans helped improve life into presnt day but they got ideas from Egyptians. beside i was talking about the wood they used for boats

RMS Gigantic · « **Reply #79 on:** April 09, 2008, 03:17:06 »

The answer to my question was 18 degrees!

trains · « **Reply #80 on:** April 11, 2008, 02:54:53 »

which idea of the break up seems more realilistc? A.) she reached about 30 degres and the presure on the hull was too great causing her to split. B.) she reached 11 degres, started to split, the water pulled her together, then at 30 degres, broke and bent into her self, the stern fell back, and sunk at about 40 degres.

TJK · « **Reply #81 on:** April 11, 2008, 03:03:21 »

Quote from: trains on April 11, 2008, 02:54:53

which idea of the break up seems more realilistc? A.) she reached about 30 degres and the presure on the hull was too great causing her to split. B.) she reached 11 degres, started to split, the water pulled her together, then at 30 degres, broke and bent into her self, the stern fell back, and sunk at about 40 degres.

b

RMS Gigantic · « **Reply #82 on:** April 11, 2008, 03:06:29 »

Quote from: TJK on April 11, 2008, 03:03:21

b

ditto here, as there are two peices of Titanic's hull, making up 75 feet of the double bottom hull, bildge keel to bildge keel, upside down in a region east of the debris field

RMS Gigantic · « **Reply #83 on:** April 11, 2008, 03:08:54 »

also, the upper decks are mangles and the bottom is cleanly cut, the opposite of what the 1985 theory's break up would have caused

trains · « **Reply #84 on:** April 11, 2008, 03:13:41 »

if the stern went into the bow, it would be bent upward. but if she broke like in the movie, the top of the bow would be pulled down in the back. and those two parts of the hull prove what really?

mvsmith · « **Reply #85 on:** April 11, 2008, 04:12:30 »

Already answered:
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,1331.msg73196.html#msg73196

RMS Gigantic · « **Reply #86 on:** April 11, 2008, 04:16:56 »

this: if something that long bends due to a structural failure like the 1985 movie, in this case, the bottom would be crushed and mangled due to compression, while the top would be cleanly cut because it is being pulled apart.

as you say, "and those two parts of the hull prove what really?"

let me answer that for you: JUST THE OPPOSITE

the break up was interrupted, by what? easy, the only part of the ship that had yet to fail, the double bottom.

trains · « **Reply #87 on:** April 11, 2008, 04:27:56 »

but if the water pulled the ship down and that caused part of the break up, how can water pull the ship together? and how can she go into her self? at that angle, the stern would fall back. it can't just bend the opposite way if she has weight at the stern. it seems like in order to go into her self, an invisable force would either have to pull her forward or pushed at the bottom of the stern into the bow. if she broke like that, the rear of the bow would be pushed up, not down.

mvsmith · « **Reply #88 on:** April 11, 2008, 08:03:11 »

Trains,
What do you mean â€œgo into herselfâ€? The bow and stern had more buoyancy than the midsection after it flooded through the crack. This caused the crack to close again as shown by the crushed edges at the top. The tensile stress on the double bottom finally snapped it.
The archeological evidence supports this, and the naval architects are in agreement that this is what happened.
You could spend some time reading the technical literature on Titanic rather than depending upon a motion picture for your understanding.
Marty

TJK · « **Reply #89 on:** April 11, 2008, 08:50:09 »

HI
the boilers did explode to, maybe that help little to break her in two also
The Hollywood movie was not authentic, fiction and action for make money, but it was a god film do
TJK

trains · « **Reply #90 on:** April 11, 2008, 12:02:20 »

Smith. the theory your talking about was talked about on Titanics Akiles Heel. that theory suggest she broke into her self and then sunk.

RMS Gigantic · « **Reply #91 on:** April 11, 2008, 12:41:05 »

It's ALSO the theory made by the guys at the History Channel in 2006 when they found 2 peices that didn't support the 1985 theory.

trains · « **Reply #92 on:** April 11, 2008, 19:07:45 »

but it wasn't only the hull that failed. a second part failed. i'm sure it was talked about by those same discoverers. can't remember what part.

RMS Gigantic · « **Reply #93 on:** April 11, 2008, 22:16:13 »

The aft expansion joint (probably what you were thinking of) began to fail, but the crack stopped at the only section of the ship that was still air-filled: the double bottom hull, sealed off from the rest of the ship, which failed under stress (it's hard to hold a 46,328 ton ship together!).

huang yu po peter · « **Reply #94 on:** April 12, 2008, 13:44:09 »

How did titanic got its name?

RMS Gigantic · « **Reply #95 on:** April 12, 2008, 17:13:55 »

Quote from: huang yu po peter on April 12, 2008, 13:44:09

How did titanic got its name?

greek mythology; from the Titans

Stuart2007 · « **Reply #96 on:** April 13, 2008, 14:44:18 »

Quote from: trains on April 08, 2008, 22:31:35

but where did the Greeks get the ideas. true the Greeks and Romans helped improve life into presnt day but they got ideas from Egyptians. beside i was talking about the wood they used for boats

I think if you were to go to two far apart locations and research their ancestors- example 1) Vikings 2) Maoris you would find that they both discovered the idea of floating bits of wood for boats at about the same time- probably about 11pm one Saturday after a drunken night in a pub.

RMS Gigantic · « **Reply #97 on:** April 13, 2008, 23:36:18 »

Which funnel on Titanic was shortest?

trains · « **Reply #98 on:** April 14, 2008, 01:35:28 »

Quote from: RMS Gigantic on April 13, 2008, 23:36:18

Which funnel on Titanic was shortest?

the third.

RMS Gigantic · « **Reply #99 on:** April 14, 2008, 01:47:46 »

Quote from: trains on April 14, 2008, 01:35:28

the third.

Incorrect. That's the tallest!

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