Topic: new horizons (Read 56225 times)

mvsmith · « **Reply #75 on:** March 21, 2008, 05:01:27 »

Tsk, tsk, TJK,
One would think with all your experience you could produce a bug-free sig.

Regards,
Marty

By the way, you owe me a new CRT.

Captain Spencer · « **Reply #76 on:** March 21, 2008, 05:07:15 »

Quote from: mvsmith on March 21, 2008, 05:01:27

Tsk, tsk, TJK,
One would think with all your experience you could produce a bug-free sig.
Regards,
Marty

By the way, you owe me a new CRT.

Haha I looked at that and thought it was real for a min lol. Tis good

TJK · « **Reply #77 on:** March 21, 2008, 06:58:03 »

HI
I have a bug in my programe that's the ting

Quote from: CaptainSpencer [quote author=mvsmith on March 21, 2008, 05:01:27

Tsk, tsk, TJK,
One would think with all your experience you could produce a bug-free sig.
Regards,
Marty

By the way, you owe me a new CRT.

Quote from: CaptainSpencer on March 21, 2008, 05:07:15

Haha I looked at that and thought it was real for a min lol. Tis good

TJK · « **Reply #78 on:** March 21, 2008, 06:59:16 »

Quote from: mvsmith on March 21, 2008, 05:01:27

Tsk, tsk, TJK,
One would think with all your experience you could produce a bug-free sig.
Regards,
Marty

By the way, you owe me a new CRT.

Wath you mean

have you took it in pisses

TJK · « **Reply #79 on:** March 21, 2008, 07:04:52 »

It was a kid thug it's vas real so hi tock the hole screen in small pieces to get read of it, it's weary real
it was a kid from us printed this gif. first time i see it i most take on the screen its seems very real
Little fun we most have

Jayshum · « **Reply #80 on:** March 21, 2008, 14:51:20 »

Quote from: Mad_Fred on March 21, 2008, 02:16:35

Those Bugsier clips eh?

I love the Bugsier 2

I can't wait man. If it's downloadable from here tomorrow, then I'm going to cancel my pre-order from my local shop (who get it on the 28th!).

Bottman · « **Reply #81 on:** March 21, 2008, 15:29:58 »

Look here...

http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,6336.msg66612.html#msg66612

I'm working on some short videos to show, how the new sea going Azimuth-Tractor-Tug is working with precision steering.

Captain Spencer · « **Reply #82 on:** March 21, 2008, 15:42:47 »

Wow I loved the fact that the Bugsier actually moved the vermaas! Nice videos Bottman

Jayshum · « **Reply #83 on:** March 21, 2008, 15:54:09 »

I know, it made me smile!

eviss · « **Reply #84 on:** March 21, 2008, 16:15:38 »

Quote from: Bottman on March 21, 2008, 15:29:58

Look here...

http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,6336.msg66612.html#msg66612

I'm working on some short videos to show, how the new sea going Azimuth-Tractor-Tug is working with precision steering.

Hallo Bottman,

I noticed, that the steering of the Busier2 is different, than the one on â€œOcean starâ€ until now;

with the 2006->2008 add-on patch.

Not easy to explain, but Iâ€™ll try:

When the green side (of the steering mech.) points to SB the Bugier2 will GO to SB and v.v..

When the green side (of the steering mech.) points to SB the OCEAN STAR will GO to PORT and v.v.!

Is this corrected now with New Horizons so that the O.S. reacts the same way, or ?

Vr. Gr. / regards Erik

budbud · « **Reply #85 on:** March 21, 2008, 16:22:10 »

Hi I watched the video, seems good except: I have a big doubt looking at the azimuth levers. When you turn the levers clockwise, the tug turns to starboard (engines ahead) ?! Is that right on the real bugsier?

Because I worked on several ships with azimuth thrusters and it was the contrary on all of them. On these ships when you turns the levers clockwise they turn to port.

Is it a small bug to correct or does the bugsier has converse controls?

I'm not already looking to bug, but I will be a little disturbed with these controls in the game because I was in use to manoeuvre with controls in the opposite sense.

budbud · « **Reply #86 on:** March 21, 2008, 16:23:41 »

Wow, Eviss' post seems to have appeared at the exact moment I clicked on reply!

Bottman · « **Reply #87 on:** March 21, 2008, 16:45:16 »

It is absolutely correct for both vessels, the "Bugsier 2" and the "Ocean Star", because the thrusters are at the opposite end of the vessels! On "B2" both azimuth thrusters are located forward, so if you turn them clockwise, the tug turns to starboard. At the "OS" it's exactly the opposite, because she has both thrusters under her stern. I have driven the "B2" by myself and our simulated tug works quite realistic...

Cheers

thassos · « **Reply #88 on:** March 21, 2008, 17:52:54 »

Ocean Star is back to the WW1 warships. When the "old man" cried "Hard a'starb'd" He meant "I need this tub to turn to port rather smartly, old chap"

Bottman · « **Reply #89 on:** March 21, 2008, 18:01:55 »

Quote from: budbud on March 21, 2008, 16:22:10

Hi I watched the video, seems good except: I have a big doubt looking at the azimuth levers. When you turn the levers clockwise, the tug turns to starboard (engines ahead) ?! Is that right on the real bugsier?

Because I worked on several ships with azimuth thrusters and it was the contrary on all of them. On these ships when you turns the levers clockwise they turn to port.

Is it a small bug to correct or does the bugsier has converse controls?

I'm not already looking to bug, but I will be a little disturbed with these controls in the game because I was in use to manoeuvre with controls in the opposite sense.

Maybe the tugs you have been working on are not azimuth tractors, which means the prop units are located forward? It is quite easy to handle the "B2", because at the foward helm you have the thusters right beneath your feeds. That means, turning the joystick clockwise (to starboard) will turn the thruster clockwise too and the tug turns to starboard.

It's fine as it is...

Cheers

budbud · « **Reply #90 on:** March 21, 2008, 18:57:02 »

I'm really happy to hear bugsier is ok.
I must confess I didn't think at all of the position of the azimuth units on forward ! And yes all the ships I have handled had azimuth on the stern. So thanks for the reply.

Eh eh, in the first moment I will have her on my hands, you shouldn't come too close to me, I think I will be a little confused with the control!

Bottman · « **Reply #91 on:** March 21, 2008, 19:47:04 »

If it is so, try to navigate "B2" astern. That works quite good and with the same thrust directions as the "Ocean Star" in forward move...

Fox Luna · « **Reply #92 on:** March 21, 2008, 20:03:24 »

bottman : do you have any videos with the pushboat on youtube??

Bottman · « **Reply #93 on:** March 21, 2008, 20:10:37 »

Wait a few minutes...

Fox Luna · « **Reply #94 on:** March 21, 2008, 20:12:03 »

WOHO

Bottman · « **Reply #95 on:** March 21, 2008, 20:16:32 »

Look at the above mentioned link, there it is...

Fox Luna · « **Reply #96 on:** March 21, 2008, 20:17:46 »

thanks

eviss · « **Reply #97 on:** March 21, 2008, 20:49:13 »

Hello Bottman and SS-friends,

I'm back on, after my little sleep.

Quote from: Bottman on March 21, 2008, 16:45:16

It is absolutely correct for both vessels, the "Bugsier 2" and the "Ocean Star", because the thrusters are at the opposite end of the vessels! On "B2" both azimuth thrusters are located forward, so if you turn them clockwise, the tug turns to starboard. At the "OS" it's exactly the opposite, because she has both thrusters under her stern. I have driven the "B2" by myself and our simulated tug works quite realistic...

Cheers

Your explanation make sence to me now. Thank you very much for that.

Never worked with azimuth thrusters, but I did worked SCHOTTEL props, so I understand the principal.
I really thought, that the OS steering wasn't quite right and would be updated later by patch.
I could work it remembering it as a "helm" on a little sailingboat and so doiing it worked fine for me.
(pushing the "helm" to SB it would Go to port and v.v.)

vr. gr. / regards Erik

Right you are, Terry

TerryRussell · « **Reply #98 on:** March 21, 2008, 20:50:56 »

Quote from: eviss on March 21, 2008, 20:49:13

I could work it remembering it as a "helm" on a little sailingboat and so doiing it worked fine for me.
(pushing the "helm" to SB it would Go to port and v.v.)

Hi Erik.

It's the same way with any outboard engine as well. Push to port to go to starboard.

Pilot of the Sea · « **Reply #99 on:** March 22, 2008, 00:23:35 »

What time on the 22nd is New Horizons being released?
(I might stay up all night to get it...)

Author Topic: new horizons (Read 56225 times)

mvsmith

TJK

TJK

TJK

TerryRussell