Bismark or Titanic

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Bismark

1 (11.1%)

Titanic

5 (55.6%)

Both

3 (33.3%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: July 10, 2007, 22:01:18

[cpt.Young]

Witch do you like more???

[AriesDW]

EASY!! Titanic. Now, if it was the famous Bismark vs Hood debate, HOOD ALL THE WAY BABY!!

Of course Bismarks escort before she sank, the famous Prinz Eugen was one hell of a well built ship, as well.

[Stuart2007]

If you want a German ship, the scharnhorst would be a good one! Fast fpr size, tough.

Stu

[AriesDW]

If you want a German ship, the scharnhorst would be a good one! Fast fpr size, tough.

Stu

Not to mention ugly and weaker than the Bismark class. :p The germans cannot design appealing ships, to be honest. HA HA! Schoernhorst was a force to be reckoned with, though, for sure. They were brilliant with how they were able to hide the Tirpitz and make her so imposing yet she hardly did anything.

[cpt.Young]

i agree with the awnsers thanks

[Stuart2007]

Not to mention ugly and weaker than the Bismark class. :p The germans cannot design appealing ships, to be honest. HA HA! Schoernhorst was a force to be reckoned with, though, for sure. They were brilliant with how they were able to hide the Tirpitz and make her so imposing yet she hardly did anything.

BUT she kept half the British fleet busy looking for their few major capital ships.

Like an escort on a convoy. Unlikely to sink a U boat... but just kept them busy away from the main targets.

Stu

[AriesDW]

BUT she kept half the British fleet busy looking for their few major capital ships.

Like an escort on a convoy. Unlikely to sink a U boat... but just kept them busy away from the main targets.

Stu

Yes, that is true. The German Skippers did a great job of giving the run around. I personally admire when the Prinz Eugen fired 650 rounds at the Red Army as they tried to invade this one port town . . . I forgot the name. The next day after she warpped her turrets beyound use, the crew of the Lipzeg (sp) stayed behind and fired upon the city, trying to delay the Red Army while the Prinz Eugen escaped . . . Man. Incredible amount of guts to do that.

[Stuart2007]

I've just read the book 'The Cruel Sea'. It is about a British Corvette in WW2. I had a neighbour who served on North Atlantic and Russian conveys. He could tell you a tale or two.

But there was a huge amount of bravery at sea- on both sides of the battle. I find the way that ships would stop to pik up enemy survivors at great risk to themselves to be one of the redeeming features of war- in such a situation, people can still have compassion. This was frequent occurance on BOTH sides.

Stu

[AriesDW]

I've just read the book 'The Cruel Sea'. It is about a British Corvette in WW2. I had a neighbour who served on North Atlantic and Russian conveys. He could tell you a tale or two.

But there was a huge amount of bravery at sea- on both sides of the battle. I find the way that ships would stop to pik up enemy survivors at great risk to themselves to be one of the redeeming features of war- in such a situation, people can still have compassion. This was frequent occurance on BOTH sides.

Stu

I very much agree. It took a lot of courage to do what the men did, on both sides.

[Stuart2007]

Moving off topic, I always assumed that U boat crews were pretty safe and didn't often get hit by depth charges. Read the other day that 28% of their crews were lost.

If that is true it makes U boat crew one of the most leathal in a war!

Stu

[AriesDW]

Moving off topic, I always assumed that U boat crews were pretty safe and didn't often get hit by depth charges. Read the other day that 28% of their crews were lost.

If that is true it makes U boat crew one of the most leathal in a war!

Stu

True . . .  Watch Das Boot the Directors Cut - OH MAN!! It get's intense.

[Stuart2007]

True . . .  Watch Das Boot the Directors Cut - OH MAN!! It get's intense.

Whats that about then? I don't speak German, but I guess DAS BOOT it THE BOAT?

I refuse to watch U237 (or whatever it was called). No offence to you or any other American here, but it was the British Navy that captured the sub and enigma machine. I don't thik history should ever be re-written...

Stu

[[RWP]DJM]

Whats that about then? I don't speak German, but I guess DAS BOOT it THE BOAT?

I refuse to watch U237 (or whatever it was called). No offence to you or any other American here, but it was the British Navy that captured the sub and enigma machine. I don't thik history should ever be re-written...

Stu

U571....historically inaccurate.  I didn't really rate it to be honest.

[AriesDW]

Das Boot is The Boat, yes. They have it in both German and English. Being I speak both languages, although my German is getting so rusty it is practically non-existent, I own copies in both languages. It gets extremely intense towards the middle of the film where the Commander screws with the wrong destroyer and . . . Well . . . they terrorize the hell of of the U-Boat . . . It makes me feel as if I am there everytime . . .Especially when the home theater is jacked up. LOL! (A good set of headphones does the trick, too!)

[AriesDW]

U571....historically inaccurate.  I didn't really rate it to be honest.

AN APALLING MOVIE! I cannot believe it . . . I found the lack of truth offensive and that it was nothing more than a gimic to sell tickets to an action flick . . . One too many, personally.

[[RWP]DJM]

AN APALLING MOVIE! I cannot believe it . . . I found the lack of truth offensive and that it was nothing more than a gimic to sell tickets to an action flick . . . One too many, personally.

You said it better than I did.  I agree totally

[AriesDW]

You said it better than I did.  I agree totally

Now, getting back to Bismark - they do need an awesome, new Bismark film . . . Especially where she slugs it out with the Hood. It would be fantasic to see the old Hood on the big screen.

[[RWP]DJM]

Now, getting back to Bismark - they do need an awesome, new Bismark film . . . Especially where she slugs it out with the Hood. It would be fantasic to see the old Hood on the big screen.

Absolutely, with the things they can do with SFX now also....would make a fantastic movie.  Just hoping that they wouldn't over-dramatise it though or detract from the historical significance.....as usually happens 

[Stuart2007]

If you want to see a good war film, watch the cruel sea.

For those who havent seen it, it is a harsh look at the bitter realities of war, without the glamour. How it can destroy people- even the victors. Jack Hawkins played a fantastic part as a captain of a RN corvette, with an inexperienced volunteer crew.

At one point he has to choose between saving merchant seamen and attaking a u boat. The decision nearly kills him- so well portrayed by Hawkins.

Stu

[Stuart2007]

Absolutely, with the things they can do with SFX now also....would make a fantastic movie.  Just hoping that they wouldn't over-dramatise it though or detract from the historical significance.....as usually happens 

I agree with you on that. (see my above post about realistic war films) But I imagine it would be set as the USS Hood, not HMS hood. No one wants to buy british films now.

Stu

[AriesDW]

Absolutely, with the things they can do with SFX now also....would make a fantastic movie.  Just hoping that they wouldn't over-dramatise it though or detract from the historical significance.....as usually happens 

That is why the film needs to be made in Europe - it would be cannibalized, digested, and vomited back up and placed on the screen with all sorts of errors . . . .

[sterling vp]

I would have to say The Bismark.
She and the Prinz Eugen were good ships.

S.V.P

[trains]

Not to mention ugly and weaker than the Bismark class. :p The germans cannot design appealing ships, to be honest. HA HA! Schoernhorst was a force to be reckoned with, though, for sure. They were brilliant with how they were able to hide the Tirpitz and make her so imposing yet she hardly did anything.

but if they designed Yamato, that would be a diffrent story.

[Ship Sim]

I vote Bismark which I think was one of the best war ships in WW2 it sank the in minouts. Bismark could have maid it back to a german port if her rudder wouldnt have gotter jammed. My self I love german and american WW2 ships. British ships are ok to. But we all must remember even  Isoroku Yamamoto`s flagship Yamato couldnt stand up to hundreds of American dive bombers and torpedo planes.(Even though there were eight distroyers and a light cruiser in the task force they still sunk it). So the lesson in that even the greatest ship could be broken up with a well set torpedo from one Submarine of U-boat.

[Ship Sim]

Now, getting back to Bismark - they do need an awesome, new Bismark film . . . Especially where she slugs it out with the Hood. It would be fantasic to see the old Hood on the big screen.

Well todays that day. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbz6Oa5PQuA&feature=related

And heres a vedio of the Yamato.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUl1mAjTTb0