End of the gas hog days

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[Master Captain]

http://news.yahoo.com/mileage-standards-aim-less-fuel-pollution-183546427.html (http://news.yahoo.com/mileage-standards-aim-less-fuel-pollution-183546427.html)   54.5 mpg by 2025, that sounds insane.... I suppose the days of raw horsepower are gone    Being forced to convert over to silly hybrids that are so complicated you cant do any work on them youselves

[--tractorman--]

We've been having 50 odd mpg and more for a while. 2 litre engine, 6 speed gear box is good enough to hum along and hardly use any fuel

[Master Captain]

i supose i should point out that this is US related only, i'm well aware that most european countries get good fuel economy

[Captain Darling]

I get around 50Mpg (thats only if I drive well ) in my Vauxhall Corsa '05 1.3CDTi, 5 gear manual.

Also, I've been told that auto's use up more fuel than manuals, auto's being the most used in the US?

[Master Captain]

usually autos tend to use more fuel, with a standard you have more control over the engines speed, but here in the US i'd say its probaly around a 50/50 mix

[Third Mate]

I though of Hybrids, but there no good.I had a talk with a friend once and from he told me, there more like "show" cars other than work horses for everyday life. 

[Master Captain]

and they're so flippin complicated you cant do any maintenace yourself or you'll void some warranty or something

[Capt. Matt]

Damn, Thats a slight improvement to our old trucks 11 MPG 

[Traddles]

Don't forget that the US gallon is smaller that an imperial gallon. There are roughly 1.2 US gallons to 1 imperial gallon.