Performance Issues

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[bob_gneu]

Greetings,

Been a long time fan of the franchise and had some great fun over the last couple years playing the game. My primary issue is that the performance has not improved, as my machine has. I ran 3DMark06, scored ~ 7800 points and no matter what i do it appears to be a continued problem. I can only get 8-10fps out of the game.

Ive got the latest drivers & updates for all of my hardware & operating system, including the graphics drivers, windows 7 updates across the board. SSE is still proving to be a complicated bird. Any and all input/tips/modifications are greatly appreciated.

Thank you =)

[bob_gneu]

System Specs
Operating system: Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
Memory: 8.00 GB
Processor: AMD Phenom 9500
Video card: GeForce GTX 275
Hard disc space: Plenty
Sound: Soundblaster X-FI

[vin_sun]

Hi Bob,

Welcome to the Forum.

There has been quite some discussions about FPS matters in the Forum. It appears to occur for some even with high end machines.

Please follow this thread which deals with FPS issues.

http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php/topic,21755.0.html


Regards
vin_sun

[mvsmith]

Hi Bob,

First, since you have Win7 and 8GB, you should follow Sean’s advice:
http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php/topic,22431.msg298543.html#msg298543 (http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php/topic,22431.msg298543.html#msg298543)

This is taken care of in the 1.3 patch, so it is an officially recognized procedure.
Your frame rate is less dependent on your graphics card than in most games. SSE has to do a huge amount of processing in the CPU before each frame can be rendered. Anything above 15 FPS is adequate for good gameplay.

Regards,
Marty

[moonrider]

I found a better way to do this and much easier, i hope it works for you like it did for a lot of people.
Runs smoother and faster, scenery looks much better and can be used on 2008 and SSE.

Rider

[Robert67]

I found a better way to do this and much easier, i hope it works for you like it did for a lot of people.
Runs smoother and faster, scenery looks much better and can be used on 2008 and SSE.

Rider

What exactly does the Patch do?
Will not install a patch, without infos

[sydmichel]

for information on this executable go here:

http://ntcore.com/4gb_patch.php

[moonrider]

Sorry for the no info i think i got snow in my head this morning.
The patch is from the same maker as the other programm but instead of doing all that this little thing lets you point out questviewer.exe and changes the flag byte for the memory.
No worries its not a virus or anything else, but make a backup of the file in case you need it somehow.

Rider

[mvsmith]

OK Rider, thanks.
Marty

[bob_gneu]

Thank you for the responses.

I have run the patch and confirmed with CFF Explorer that the flag has been set. FPS is still 8-10 fps.

Attached is my DXDiag info.

[moonrider]

There is nothing wrong with youre diag at first sight, but lookin bit further , youre graphic drivers are out dated (2009) and as far as i can see youre using 2x gtx 274 in SLI modus.
Are they set in the nvidia options to work as SLI??
Which graphic card is youre monitor connected?  (The one closest to youre cpu should be hooked up.)
After that is checked download AMD Fusion the latest version, after startup you can set a profile for youre computer, set to gaming.
After youre done playing switch back to amd balanced and youre back to normal.
They are still workin at Vstep to solve the FPS issue but with these steps its more playable and will give some more FPS, but dont expect them to go skyhigh.

Little helper: get USB stick of 4gb, set under win 7 as readyboost, its faster then a swapfile on disk and helps performance.

Rider

[vin_sun]

Little helper: get USB stick of 4gb, set under win 7 as readyboost, its faster then a swapfile on disk and helps performance.

Rider

Hi Moonrider,

Sounds useful. Would appreciate explaining this in more detail.
Thanks in advance.

Regards
vin_sun

[moonrider]

Hi Vin, well normaly windows is using a swap file on harddisk to preload pieces of program into memory.
Windows 7 has an option to put the swapfile onto a usb stick and use it there.
First of all dont use the verry cheap ones they dont work because of their speed.
Put the stick into a usb 2.0 slot, go into my computer. right click onto the stick en go to properties, click readyboost, tick exclusief use for readyboost, click ok.
Thats it, now the stick will be used instead of the harddisk.

NOTE: Dont remove the stick without disconnecting it in my computer or you damage the stick.

I hope you can figure it out, its easy.

Rider

[Ballast]

Doesn't that only work with the slower harddrives...? 

[moonrider]

Nope it works with ALL harddrives, its always faster then any normal HD, if you use a U3 usb stick.
But dont expect drastical fps boost, but it will help performance.
Its been tested here for about a year now, it realy works, if any doubt, use the force of google.
Google: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReadyBoost (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReadyBoost)

Rider

[Robert67]

Nope it works with ALL harddrives, its always faster then any normal HD, if you use a U3 usb stick.
But dont expect drastical fps boost, but it will help performance.
Its been tested here for about a year now, it realy works, if any doubt, use the force of google.
Google: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReadyBoost (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReadyBoost)

Rider

Readyboost only helps with low Ram.
And slow HD

Not helpfull at powerfull PC

Better try SuperFetch

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Vista_I/O_technologies#SuperFetch


Defrag off
Indexing off
Virusscan off

[moonrider]

Under windows 7 Superfetch is always on.
But with readyboost together they can help with performance.
Most of the players have an not so powerfull pc, so thats why i suggested this.
If you looked at the dxdiag.txt you know its not an high end gametower.

Rider

[bob_gneu]

Thanks for the input.

I have a 16GB flash drive in the ready boost role already.

Not sure why but the drivers didn't get updated when i ran it previously, i guess. I updated the drivers to the
260.99_desktop_win7_winvista_64bit_english_whql.exe 2010.10.25
version and did it again last night, no benefit.

Just in case i walked through windows update, and hit the Nvidia drivers for the motherboard and all perpherals last night. No benefit noticed. Fraps still reports 8-10 fps.

I only have one 3d Card, it is just hooked up to two displays one with DVI one VGA, hence the two entries.

AMD Fusion is running and in game mode. 

[moonrider]

Last thing you can do with youre cpu is overclock it a little, go into the bios and up the multiplier with a half or one, restart and see if its stable, dont go any higher then 2.8 ghz.
If anything i said is chinese to you, DONT GO INTO THE BIOS, and wait till the update comes.
Most people i know have between 10 and 15 fps on better cards, so its not a hardware problem really.
If any doubt, contact me directly if you want.

Rider

[MokMok]

With AMD OverDrive util I can overclock my AMD Phenom 2 X3. In the bios I set the CPU multiplier from 14 to 15. By applying this setting I overclock my CPU from 2.8 ghz to 3 ghz. I run a stability test with the AMD OverDrive util. If I overclock too much, the stability test will fail.

Will the 1.3-patch bring us some performance improvements?

[moonrider]

Yes they will, everyone at Vstep is workin verry hard to get things done.
They already done a lot and still busy getting the mp worked out, we gotta be patient till its done, we dont need a patch thats half workin.

Rider

[winmagazine2007]

Hello,my name is Leonardo,
sorry for my orrible english...i have a little problem with my game...Ship Simulator Extremes.
Ship simulator extreme is up to date,and my notebook(asus x52jc) configuration is very good for this game(intel i5 430M,two vga card:intel and nvidia geforce 310m 1gb(driver update),ram 4 gb and windows 7 64 bit).
My problem is:
The game is very very slow....because?the ships run same tortoise...please help me!

[bsm2003]

Don't know what is going on but I get over 25fps max everything. pic to prove it.
Intel Core 2 Duo 3.16GHz
8 GB DDR2 pc 6400 Ram
Nvidia GTX 9800 1 gb ddr3 ram
crappy harddrive 300 gb 16mb cache
Acer 19 inch Monitor DVI connected
Win 7 Home Premium 64 bit
No over clocking.
Guess it pays to build your own instead of buying cookie cutter box.

(http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i113/bsm2003/?action=view&current=SANY0009.jpg)

[phil ciborowski]

Go into a crowded harbor with AI Traffic and other scenery objects around..

25fps is easy when theres nothing.

Also it looks as if you have no AA or AF settings enabled... turn those on and report your FPS.

at 64AA and 16AF im getting 20 FPS in NY Harbor. which isnt bad for the settings.