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bman0501

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how can I get more
« on: August 20, 2010, 15:57:00 »

I have a windows xp 2002 version , a service pack 3 , AMD Athlon 64 processor 3700+ , 2.19 GHz , and 1.93 GB of Ram I dont know where to look for the graphics card at maybe someone could tell me where to look . Anyway I know its below the minimum standard according to shipsim.com but if I could add more or get every thing I need I want the quality of the video on shipsim .com under trailers and demos and its the 2 video . Will the minimum requirments on ship sim .com equal that quality of the video
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Re: how can I get more
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2010, 16:04:21 »

Hi there bman0501,

If I misunderstand your question then please correct me.

If you would like high quality graphics then you will have to spend quite a lot on a decent graphics card. However the first thing to do is determine what type of card your system can support.

Judging by your processor you may have a AGP graphics card slot, but I do not know what motherboard you have.

To help us find out what type of computer you have, could you please post your DXDIAG report? You can find this by following the instructions below...

1. Go to start, and click on 'Run'.

2. When the run box appears, type in 'dxdiag' into the box and click 'Ok'.

3. If a message appears click 'Yes' and a window will open giving you information about your computer.

4. To get a copy of your report click the button that says 'Save all information...'. Save the file to your desktop.

5. Attach this text file to your next post and we will be able to see information about your computer to help.

Hope that helps,
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Re: how can I get more
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2010, 16:27:14 »

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System Information
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Time of this report: 8/20/2010, 10:11:34
       Machine name: your-4dacd0ea75
   Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.100427-1636)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: HP Pavilion 061
       System Model: EL448AA-ABA a1310n
               BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
          Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3700+,  MMX,  3DNow, ~2.2GHz
             Memory: 1982MB RAM
          Page File: 707MB used, 3103MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode
  DxDiag Previously: Crashed in DirectShow (stage 1)

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DxDiag Notes
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  DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
          Music Tab: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.
        Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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        Card name: ATI RADEON XPRESS 200 Series
     Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
        Chip type: ATI RADEON XPRESS 200 Series (0x5954)
         DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5954&SUBSYS_2A26103C&REV_00
   Display Memory: 256.0 MB
     Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
          Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
  Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
      Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
   Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6571 (English)
      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
 Driver Date/Size: 8/14/2005 00:36:12, 238592 bytes
      WHQL Logo'd: Yes
  WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
              VDD: n/a
         Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys
    Mini VDD Date: 8/14/2005 00:35:54, 1313792 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-1A14-11CF-276A-2C0AA1C2CB35}
        Vendor ID: 0x1002
        Device ID: 0x5954
        SubSys ID: 0x2A26103C
      Revision ID: 0x0000
      Revision ID: 0x0000
      Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D
 Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
                   {3C5323C1-6FB7-44F5-9081-056BF2EE449D}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
         Registry: OK
     DDraw Status: Enabled
       D3D Status: Enabled
       AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
 D3D7 Test Result: Not run
 D3D8 Test Result: Not run
 D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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Sound Devices
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            Description: Realtek AC97 Audio
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
            Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4370&SUBSYS_2A27103C&REV_02
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: ALCXWDM.SYS
         Driver Version: 5.10.0000.5910 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: Yes
          Date and Size: 8/29/2005 17:11:00, 3644928 bytes
            Other Files:
        Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
         HW Accel Level: Full
              Cap Flags: 0xF5F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 192000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 26, 25
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 26, 25
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
               Registry: OK
      Sound Test Result: Not run

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Sound Capture Devices
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            Description: Realtek AC97 Audio
  Default Sound Capture: Yes
  Default Voice Capture: Yes
            Driver Name: ALCXWDM.SYS
         Driver Version: 5.10.0000.5910 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
          Date and Size: 8/29/2005 17:11:00, 3644928 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x41
           Format Flags: 0xFFF

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DirectMusic
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        DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\drivers\GM.DLS
     DLS Version: 1.00.0016.0002
    Acceleration: n/a
           Ports: Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port
                  Realtek AC97 Audio, Software (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
                  Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
                  Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
        Registry: OK
     Test Result: Not run

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DirectInput Devices
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      Device Name: Mouse
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Keyboard
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No
         Registry: OK

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USB Devices
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+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x1002, 0x4374
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 4/13/2008 13:45:37, 59520 bytes
| Driver: usbd.sys, 8/10/2004 07:00:00, 4736 bytes

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Gameport Devices
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PS/2 Devices
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+ Enhanced Mulmedia PS/2 Keyboard
| Matching Device ID: acpi\pnp0303
| Upper Filters: PS2
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 4/13/2008 14:18:00, 52480 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 4/13/2008 13:39:47, 24576 bytes
| Driver: PS2.sys, 12/12/2005 17:27:00, 19072 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 4/13/2008 19:13:20, 40840 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 4/13/2008 13:39:47, 24576 bytes
|
+ PS/2 Compatible Mouse
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0f13
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 4/13/2008 14:18:00, 52480 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 4/13/2008 13:39:47, 23040 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 4/13/2008 19:13:20, 40840 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 4/13/2008 13:39:47, 23040 bytes

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DirectPlay Service Providers
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DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
DirectPlay8 IPX Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
Internet TCP/IP Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
IPX Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
Modem Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
Serial Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.5512)

DirectPlay Voice Wizard Tests: Full Duplex: Not run, Half Duplex: Not run, Mic: Not run
DirectPlay Test Result: Not run
Registry: OK

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DirectPlay Adapters
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DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider: PCI Data Fax SoftModem with SmartCP
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider: COM3
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider: Local Area Connection - IPv4 -

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DirectPlay Voice Codecs
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Voxware VR12 1.4kbit/s
Voxware SC06 6.4kbit/s
Voxware SC03 3.2kbit/s
MS-PCM 64 kbit/s
MS-ADPCM 32.8 kbit/s
Microsoft GSM 6.10 13 kbit/s
TrueSpeech(TM) 8.6 kbit/s

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DirectPlay Lobbyable Apps
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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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      Drive: C:
 Free Space: 105.9 GB
Total Space: 182.1 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: ST3200826AS

      Drive: D:
 Free Space: 1.1 GB
Total Space: 8.7 GB
File System: FAT32
      Model: ST3200826AS

      Drive: E:
      Model: LITE-ON DVDRW SHW-16H5S
     Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:40:46, 62976 bytes

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System Devices
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Re: how can I get more
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2010, 16:36:01 »

Hi there,

It appears you have an onboard graphics chip, which unfortunately won't be powerful enough to run ship simulator properly.

Having done some research on your PC in question it seems you are able to purchase a graphics card and install it into the computer.

You will need to purchase a graphics card though so if you can give me a budget I can suggest a card for you :)

Hope that helps,
Adam
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bman0501

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Re: how can I get more
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2010, 16:42:25 »

35$-75$ and probbably dont want to order online if the price including shipping is out of the range i stated
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Re: how can I get more
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2010, 16:48:41 »

Hi there,

You won't be able to get a decent graphics card in that price bracket I'm afraid. Unfortunately graphics cards can be quite expensive if you want something that is of high quality (such as the video you mentioned above).

I have a found a graphics card for you (see below) but it's not going to run Ship Simulator with everything turned up :(

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814139035
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bman0501

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Re: how can I get more
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2010, 16:50:22 »

oh what graphics card will run it . please leave price and name of it
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bman0501

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Re: how can I get more
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2010, 16:51:16 »

what do you mean by every thing turned up
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Lanedre

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Re: how can I get more
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2010, 17:13:48 »

Also make sure the power supply is big enough to handle a new graphics card :thumbs:
And one more thing is that new graphics card have become very large so it might be smart to check if your cabinet can fit the new card.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2010, 17:21:58 by Lanedre »
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Lanedre

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Re: how can I get more
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2010, 17:18:35 »

what do you mean by every thing turned up
He means the graphics settings in the game if you set everything to max many graphics card will struggle.
So you would have to set the settings to medium or low to play the game with that graphics card.
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Re: how can I get more
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2010, 17:19:53 »

what do you mean by every thing turned up

I mean the settings ingame, if you spend about $75 on a graphics card you won't be able to get high quality graphics by turning all the settings up.

I will have a look for a better graphics card, but I warn you to get a decent one you will have to spend quite a bit more.

Regards,
Adam
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Lanedre

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Re: how can I get more
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2010, 17:56:09 »

If you look at the requirements (http://www.shipsim.com/products/shipsimulatorextremes (http://www.shipsim.com/products/shipsimulatorextremes)) you would need at least GeForce 8800 GT or Radeon 4850.
However I think you need to go up to Radeon HD 5670 to run SSE smooth, I'm still quite sure even this card wouldn't  run the game in high settings especially if you use high resolution on your screen.  http://www.amazon.com/XFX-Radeon-DisplayPort-PCI-Express-HD567XYNFC/dp/tech-data/B0034K3ANM/ref=de_a_smtd (http://www.amazon.com/XFX-Radeon-DisplayPort-PCI-Express-HD567XYNFC/dp/tech-data/B0034K3ANM/ref=de_a_smtd)
I think I would spend at least 150$ on a new graphics card,the card I have installed in my computer costs about 440$http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Vapor-X-DisplayPort-PCI-Express-100281VX-2SR/dp/B0031XIGG8/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1282323125&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Vapor-X-DisplayPort-PCI-Express-100281VX-2SR/dp/B0031XIGG8/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1282323125&sr=1-1) but you don't really need to use this much money to get SSE running.
Maybe you could look at some used graphics card,I'm sure its possible to save some money there.But you would probably not get any guarantee with a used card unless there is some special law where you live.
Maybe someone else now more about the GeForce cards?
 
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Re: how can I get more
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2010, 18:01:04 »

Well I have a GeForce GTX 260 and it runs SS08 smoothly. This card cost me about £150 so it would be roughly $300 I assume.

I would if possible spend in the region of about $250-$350 on a graphics card. If you managed to spend something like that, you would be able to turn quite a few high quality settings on.
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Chitch

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Re: how can I get more
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2010, 19:00:20 »

I picked up my GeForce 9500 GT (1 GB memory) for PCIe slots from www.tigerdirect.com for about $50 US, and it runs very smoothly.  SS2008 looks like a movie, FSX is very smooth, and RailSimulator I get in the neighborhood of 90 FPS.  For the price, it's a great card.  I did improve my power supply to handle it...I installed a 500W supply, and it runs everything very smoothly.  I only have 3 GB of ram onboard.

It's a fan cooled processor, but the fan is nearly silent....not loud at all.

Good luck on your search.

Jim
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bman0501

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Re: how can I get more
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2010, 19:23:58 »

so mainly I want a graphics card that makes the graphics to look just like the video frank posted on the top of this sse news section . any card suggestion ... and if i get the graphics card i need I can play at the quality I want (between medium and high I prefer) or do I need any other upgrade like more GB or GHz ?
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Re: how can I get more
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2010, 19:38:06 »

Well your processor is similar to my own, and sometimes ship sim struggles a tiny bit, but I cannot tell you what it will be like with SSE :)

You have a old computer like me, but upgrading the graphics should let you play SSE providing your power supply is up to the job.

Adam.
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bman0501

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Re: how can I get more
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2010, 19:42:47 »

Can you tell me a grarphics card that will allow me to play medium quality and high quality with a 65$-215$ range
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