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VirtualSkipper

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Knock Nevis go's for India
« on: January 03, 2010, 22:50:14 »
Knock Nevis has just been renamed to Mont, and reflagged with Sierra Leone, for a single voyage to India which will see the world's largest ever ship be scrapped.

The LARGEST floating vessel ever built will be scrapped! :'(



RIP, Seawise Giant aka Happy Giant aka Jahre Viking aka Knock Nevis aka Mont
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Stuart2007

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Re: Knock Nevis go's for India
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2010, 22:58:03 »
I must admit that it would be an impressive ship to see in real life... You can't get the sense of scale with it on a screen
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Re: Knock Nevis go's for India
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2010, 00:41:15 »
I must agree with you there, Stuart. I hope I don't get ripped for saying this but I am curious about seeing the pictures. I wonder if anyone is going to take some nice ones of her (as nice as a ship in that state can be)

Has she been towed to India yet?
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Re: Knock Nevis go's for India
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2010, 00:44:22 »
Why is this?
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Re: Knock Nevis go's for India
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2010, 01:37:04 »
That's Sad  :'(
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Re: Knock Nevis go's for India
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2010, 01:41:44 »
I'm curious, are there any traditions when scrapping a ship?
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Stuart2007

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Re: Knock Nevis go's for India
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2010, 07:25:35 »
Some companies have quite elaborate 'send off' parties, while the fleet commodore says "this vessel DESERVES its retirement" (mostly passenger ships, I suspect)

Quite odd- giving it almost human characteristics and then chopping it to pieces right afterwards!


BTW Firestar, I actually meant to see it while its FLOATING... But yes, whilst scrapped would be interesting too. Does anyone know its current location and planned route?
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Re: Knock Nevis go's for India
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2010, 10:42:20 »
Allthough she is the longest ship ever built, she is not the largest by gross tonnage..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_world%27s_largest_ships_by_gross_tonnage

Times of India
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Stuart2007

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Re: Knock Nevis go's for India
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2010, 12:14:01 »
Quote from: saltydog on January 04, 2010, 10:42:20
Allthough she is the longest ship ever built, she is not the largest by gross tonnage..
How about the largest GT that isn't [currently] scrapped, then?


Quote from: Nathan|C on January 04, 2010, 10:21:36
The last I heard was she is anchored off Alang and is undergoing safety checks before being allowed to beach. They said she will be scrapped "in the new year" so anytime now I guess :-\
Safety checks? It's managed to make it half way around the planet- in one piece... Now they want to give it a maritime MOT before they scrap it... Makes perfect sense to me ;)
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Re: Knock Nevis go's for India
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2010, 12:23:27 »
Quote from: Season on January 04, 2010, 00:44:22
Why is this?

Does no one have an answer? D:
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Re: Knock Nevis go's for India
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2010, 12:27:32 »
Quote from: Season on January 04, 2010, 12:23:27
Does no one have an answer? D:
Why is what what?
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Season

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Re: Knock Nevis go's for India
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2010, 12:27:57 »
Why is it going to be scrapped? That's what the thread is about, no?
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Stuart2007

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Re: Knock Nevis go's for India
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2010, 12:30:09 »
Because they don't need it any more...

I suspect that it is no longer economical to refurbish as a ship and no longer needed as a storage vessel.

It won't be cheap to operate (even moored)... And they can get an awful lot of money by selling the scrap metal.

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Re: Knock Nevis go's for India
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2010, 12:31:40 »
I see. Would it have been different if she would've been a container ship?
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Stuart2007

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Re: Knock Nevis go's for India
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2010, 12:36:27 »
Don't forget, it is 30 years old!

Would you want to drive a 30 year old car or fly in a 30 year old 747?

It has been moored static for 5+ years and has previosly been an insurance right off... So in answer to your question...

"Would a 30 yr old container ship that's been a total loss once and has been moored for 5+ years (and can't traverse many shipping channels) have been re-used?"

Sadly, old duck, I think not.
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Re: Knock Nevis go's for India
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2010, 12:47:36 »
Quote from: Stuart2007 on January 04, 2010, 12:36:27
Would you want to drive a 30 year old car or fly in a 30 year old 747?

Quote from: Stuart2007 on January 04, 2010, 12:36:27
Would you want to drive a 30 year old car

No.

Quote from: Stuart2007 on January 04, 2010, 12:36:27
or fly in a 30 year old 747?

Depends on the airline operating the bird. Nowadays 30 year old 747s are rare, but there are certainly still a few flying. Kalitta Air (US cargo airline) operates about 20 747 Classics, some of them are reaching 40 years. If it would be Iran Air Tours or Onur Air, I certainly wouldn't fly on them. No discrimination towards Iranians or Turkish intended, but it's a fact that those airlines aren't the best in maintaining their aircraft.

Quote from: Stuart2007 on January 04, 2010, 12:36:27
Don't forget, it is 30 years old!

It has been moored static for 5+ years and has previosly been an insurance right off... So in answer to your question...

"Would a 30 yr old container ship that's been a total loss once and has been moored for 5+ years (and can't traverse many shipping channels) have been re-used?"

Sadly, old duck, I think not.

Okay, I was just wondering, seeing as cargo planes have been in a bigger demand lately.

Off topic; is anyone else having some weird bug when typing your message that it automatically scrolls all the time? Very irritating.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2010, 13:00:55 by Season »
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Re: Knock Nevis go's for India
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2010, 12:59:44 »
Quote from: Firestar on January 04, 2010, 01:41:44
I'm curious, are there any traditions when scrapping a ship?

Parking it on a beach:

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Re: Knock Nevis go's for India
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2010, 13:02:54 »
Quote from: McGherkin on January 04, 2010, 12:59:44
Parking it on a beach:


:-X :-X :-X

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Re: Knock Nevis go's for India
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2010, 13:06:01 »
Quote from: Stuart2007 on January 04, 2010, 13:02:54
:-X :-X :-X

I promised Fred no more sarcastic comments, so I won't say anything like Obviously a woman driver...

or three...
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Re: Knock Nevis go's for India
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2010, 17:32:31 »
Thanks Nathan- I realised that. I was just pointing out the irony of it... Asbestos, fuel dregs, chemical waste etc.
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Re: Knock Nevis go's for India
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2010, 18:34:59 »
The SS Norway was scrapped by asbetos I think
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Re: Knock Nevis go's for India
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2010, 19:12:17 »
SS Norway was in my Ship Quiz Question. She was renamed SS Blue Lady when she was scrapped. I will miss the world's largest ship, Jahre Viking.
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Re: Knock Nevis go's for India
« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2010, 21:13:48 »
Not showing any vessels on AIS in the area (not surprisingly) - but just so you can see the scale of operations over there look at this Google Maps link

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=alang+india&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=19.616064,56.90918&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Alang,+Bhavnagar,+Gujarat,+India&ll=21.402413,72.193222&spn=0.060174,0.111151&t=h&z=14
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Re: Knock Nevis go's for India
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2010, 21:32:19 »
Great catch Quaysider!


Could this be the MSC Nikita??

The Nikita after collision with the Nirint Pride off Maas approach, Rotterdam at the 1st of september '09

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Re: Knock Nevis go's for India
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2010, 21:34:13 »
Why do they rename vessels right before they're scrapped? ???
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