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lx585x

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« on: August 11, 2007, 20:30:02 »

i was just wondering...i saw a pic of some ships in night but there were no lights on it is it planned for it to be added in patch or it will stay like this for a while  ;)
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groennegaard

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« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2007, 20:55:43 »

i was just wondering...i saw a pic of some ships in night but there were no lights on it is it planned for it to be added in patch or it will stay like this for a while  ;)

Which ship was it? It has to be night before the lights are lit.

The lights will better with the new patch - I hope!  ;) We are working on it but I am not sure if it all can be fixed before the release.

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lx585x

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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2007, 21:12:28 »

hmm think it was titanic  ;)
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Stuart2007

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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2007, 00:13:31 »

I thought all the ships had lights at night. At least all the ones I've seen.

 PoR and the smaller ones have, Eagle and Jet have. Don't know about the others.

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groennegaard

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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2007, 09:11:03 »

The Titanic does have lights...

Take a look at the Titanic screenshots topic:
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,966.0.html

There is one shot show the sternlight and here is another one showing the masthead lights and a sidelight.

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lx585x

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« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2007, 13:09:01 »

i c but what about thje lights from the windows? are there any or it ain't planned for it?
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Orinoco

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« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2007, 13:16:27 »

The Titanic does have lights...

Take a look at the Titanic screenshots topic:
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,966.0.html

There is one shot show the sternlight and here is another one showing the masthead lights and a sidelight.

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groennegaard

Yeah, and all the passengers can see in the dark...
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Stuart2007

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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2007, 13:20:35 »

No, they've just got their curtains closed.

Last time I was in a cabin at the front (3 decks below bridge) we were instructed to keep curtains closed at night- whether to avoid reflection and upset the watchman or to avoid giving off the appearance of confusing navigational lights to oncoming ships, I don't know.

Mr Groeenegaard- is this normal procedure?

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Orinoco

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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2007, 13:24:53 »

Are you kidding? At night, cruise ships are lit up like Christmas trees.
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Stuart2007

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« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2007, 13:29:58 »

Well, there was a great big notice about 12" wide.

Queried it and got told it was correct. I can only think that it is because of reflections on the forecastle that upest the bridge.

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Orinoco

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« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2007, 13:30:43 »

Maybe at the front, but the side cabins and public areas are very bright indeed.
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lx585x

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« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2007, 14:24:41 »

emmm i agree with the christmas tree thingy lol i see the cruise ships a lot of times at nights and you c the lights in all the windows... watch what ships just ram others  :D
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groennegaard

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« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2007, 14:28:51 »

Yeah, and all the passengers can see in the dark...

All your passenger lights!!  :P  :D

Have you ever read the THE INTERNATIONAL REGULATIONS FOR PREVENTING
COLLISIONS AT SEA? You should do that...  ;)

PART C. LIGHTS AND SHAPES
Rule 20
Application
(a) Rules in this Part shall be complied with in all weathers.
(b) The rules concerning lights shall be complied with from sunset to sunrise, and during such
times no other lights shall be exhibited, except such lights as cannot be mistaken for the lights
specified in these Rules or do not impair their visibility or distinctive character, or interfere with
the keeping of a proper look-out.


From a distance, most lights can be mistaken for the lights in the rules, and without radar and AIS the visual look-out was of even more importance than today. Even though films show lots of lights on the Titanic, I do not think that the crew would have blend themselves in such a large scale...

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lx585x

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« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2007, 14:33:54 »

if there is land behind a ship with lots of lights and if it is far away you can easily think that those lights is actually a small city
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Stuart2007

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« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2007, 19:18:40 »

Have you ever read the THE INTERNATIONAL REGULATIONS FOR PREVENTING
COLLISIONS AT SEA? You should do that...  ;)

Funny enough... No. ;)

Did do a RYA course for sailing yachts years back and it was pointed out that a large ship at distance with lots of lights can look similar to a small light on a much nearer ship. Having read the marine accident report into the sining of 'ouzo' ( a small sailing vessel) by P&O Pride of Bilbao I can see why so many regs appear to have little importance until one sees the real thechnical reason for it.

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lx585x

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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2007, 19:23:21 »

but how can you prevent that passengers have their lights on i mean opened windows so you see the light isn't that a bit hard?  :-\
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Stuart2007

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« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2007, 19:25:42 »

I think they were more worried about those right at the bow, under the bridge.

Maybe if they catch you, they keel-haul you? That will stop repeat offenders :)

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groennegaard

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« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2007, 19:41:40 »

In practice we switch off the deck lights and black out the front window below the bridge. Stu, we don't keel-haul passengers anymore even though some of them certainly deserve such a ride...  ;D
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lx585x

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« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2007, 19:44:11 »

so passengers live in dark bellow??
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groennegaard

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« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2007, 19:58:41 »

so passengers live in dark bellow??

Perhaps... But I think most of them have their lights on behind the curtains...  ;)

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lx585x

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« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2007, 20:04:12 »

Perhaps... But I think most of them have their lights on behind the curtains...  ;)

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curtains but how can you control who has them and who don't ?
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simplayer

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« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2007, 20:12:15 »

In the past, it was not unusual that the captain gave the order to kill all the lights at the front and front quoaters of the ship.
It was indeed done for navigational reasons not to be mistaken for anything els but a ship, the officers on board kept a good watch inside the ship to be sure the curtans or blinds were closed, and stayed that way until the captain desided otherwise.
The more traffic they encountered the more these procedures were issued.
These days there is still a regulation about these procedures, although with modern navigational instruments you have a better view of whats around you (radar+ais+vhf) nevertheless, i still hear occasionally of Captains to order a "lights out"
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« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2007, 20:23:37 »

curtains but how can you control who has them and who don't ?

If I'm annoyed by lights from a window I simply grab the phone and call the room directly or get a stewardess to kindly ask the passengers to draw the curtains.  :)
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lx585x

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« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2007, 21:25:58 »

hmm there should be like small little "doors" on the windows that u can close with a switch maybe  :D
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groennegaard

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« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2007, 21:57:13 »

hmm there should be like small little "doors" on the windows that u can close with a switch maybe  :D

I don't think that will be a good idea since the windows often are used as secondary escape routes...  ::) and people will feel locked up. But of course, my job will be easier as I would be able to skip all the related phone calls...  ;)

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