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LucAtC

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Re: Agile solution in real??????????????
« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2010, 18:14:49 »

The hull number of this Sovremenny class destroyer cannot be read, nor is her name very clear (if I was anyway able to read Cyrillic).
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« Reply #26 on: April 29, 2010, 18:24:18 »

That's the flagship of Russian Baltic Fleet Nastoychivyy, # 610, class "Sovremennyy", project 956.
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« Reply #27 on: April 29, 2010, 18:39:22 »

Thanks WM, she is also very impressive. I wondered about the smoke density and quantity that reminded me of similar ships, the quantity emitted being more or less proportional to the size of the boilers. Indeed, cleaning 4 each 25,000 hp cannot be overseen.
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« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2010, 07:25:46 »

White smoke indicates water in the cilinder?

Usually yes, this can either be from a leaking cylinder head, a cracked cylinder liner or due to the combustion air being over cooled in a hot humid climate.
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« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2010, 12:16:59 »

There are more pictures shown of the newbuilding Pacific Dawnp at the Tugspotters website  :)

http://www.tugspotters.com/dev/index.php?itemid=26383#more
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laganviking

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« Reply #30 on: April 30, 2010, 12:21:00 »

Im gonna guess 2 things...

1) shes not fully completed :doh:
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2) Kiel Canal?  ::)
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« Reply #31 on: April 30, 2010, 12:47:24 »

1) Yes, that's correct. Most Dutch company are building the hull and superstructure in a foreign country, while the final fitting is done in the Netherlands to save cost  :)

2) Yes, as stated in the text..  ;D
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laganviking

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« Reply #32 on: April 30, 2010, 14:04:42 »

maybe i need to brush up on my dutch then  ::)
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« Reply #33 on: April 30, 2010, 14:11:17 »

Or your English...  ;D

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TAUCHER O. WULF 5 yesterday seen at Kiel Canal towing the new PACIFIC DAWN to Holland. Stern tug was TAUCHER O. WULF 8.

Just pulling your leg..  :)
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« Reply #34 on: April 30, 2010, 14:32:46 »

There's lots of ships like the agile solution it probably isn't based on a specific one.
I know i live on a sailing boat.
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« Reply #35 on: April 30, 2010, 14:44:07 »

There are only 3 vessels based on this type. The Deo Volente, the Eendracht and now the Pacific Dawn. This type is designed and built in own management by Hartman, the owner of the Deo Volente

Ofcourse it's not unique a vessel of this size with cranes who can lift 240 metric tonnes in pair, but this type is specially designed for the lifting capacity, the service speed with a relative low fuel consumption. This type has a service speed of 18 knots with a fuel consumption of 14 ton per day.
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« Reply #36 on: April 30, 2010, 15:09:07 »

There's lots of ships like the agile solution it probably isn't based on a specific one.
I know i live on a sailing boat.

It is actually. But only Deo Volante, I think the other two are slightly different.
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« Reply #37 on: April 30, 2010, 15:14:12 »

It is actually. But only Deo Volante, I think the other two are slightly different.

Perhaps upgraded or modified. No matter how hard you try to design the perfect ship, once you take her in to service, you'll always find things that could have been better  :)
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« Reply #38 on: April 30, 2010, 15:17:10 »

Like the inclusion of an engine. Or maybe that hole in the hull so you can look at fish was a bad idea.  ::)
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« Reply #39 on: April 30, 2010, 15:22:48 »

This type has a service speed of 18 knots with a fuel consumption of 14 ton per day.

Wow, that's good.
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« Reply #40 on: April 30, 2010, 15:35:25 »

Wow, that's good.

I can not confirm it, but the words are out that the Deo Volente is the fastest cargo ship under 3000 GT in the world..
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« Reply #41 on: May 12, 2010, 12:00:17 »

It is actually. But only Deo Volante, I think the other two are slightly different.

For who may be interested,

The Eendracht and the Pacific Dawn are both fitted with a stern thruster to increase the maneuverability.
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« Reply #42 on: May 24, 2010, 22:39:42 »

Where on her they store that pontoon ("flipper") when it's not in use?
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« Reply #43 on: May 24, 2010, 23:04:24 »

Maybe they carry it in the hold since I haven't seen it yet on a deck on many photos?
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« Reply #44 on: May 24, 2010, 23:58:23 »



I think they store it here, between the hold and the forecastle. Looks the best spot, the forward crane can still reach it.

It belongs to the ship. They attatch it to the side during heavy lifts. The flipper gives the vessel a much better stability because of the increase of the waterline surface. I can bang the theoretical explanation on here, but you'll be clueless without understand the ship's stability  :doh:
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McGherkin

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« Reply #45 on: May 25, 2010, 00:00:45 »

Like a piece of paper is less likely to capsize than a log?
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« Reply #46 on: May 25, 2010, 08:55:03 »

Like a piece of paper is less likely to capsize than a log?

Like a canoe with an outrigger is less likely to capsize than a canoe.
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