2 Red Lights on boat?

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[Capt. Matt]

Hi
I was at south street seaport last weekend in NYC and there was a catamaran ferry (Zephyr) that pulled up and had two red lights next to eachother on the radar arch I know red over red means something happened "red over red captains dead" but red next to red?
Matt

[llamalord]

I have seen two green next to each other on a harbor patrol boat before.

[TerryRussell]

This set of pages contains the answer to life, lights and everything...

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/mwv/navrules/navrules.htm

PS Red over red means vessel not under control, not "captain dead"...   

[Capt. Matt]

I know not under control it is a saying   I just couldnt exactely remember it exactely
EDIT: I couldnt find what I was looking for on that site.

[llamalord]

I remember the lights for Runway approach when flying by

• white over white = Your out of sight
• Red over white   =  have a good night
• Red over Red      = You'll soon be dead

[matt5674]

He is wanting to know what rd next to red means. I think it means preparing to dock.

[Capt. Matt]

That would make sense because it was when he was pulling up to the dock but I think we can tell that without light signals 

[matt5674]

Must be used for first docking, but it must have did that to warn other boats (just in case). I bet a green next to green means departing from dock.

[Capt. Matt]

Ill ask some captain friends my dad doesnt need to use those signals though maybe it is for those extreme capptains that like to show everything like 3 whistles everytime you back up etc etc

[TerryRussell]

Oh, all right then. I'll tell you what red next to red means....

It means that the skipper is breaking the law. No such arrangement si permitted.

[Capt. Matt]

What
Dont confuse me more terry I already have swine flu 

[TerryRussell]

Look at the COLREGS.

Part C Lights and Shapes (Rules 20-31)

Rule 20 states rules concerning lights apply from sunset to sunrise.

Rule 21 gives definitions.

Rule 22 covers visibility of lights - indicating that lights should be visible at minimum ranges (in nautical miles) determined according to the type of vessel.

Rule 23 covers lights to be carried by power-driven vessels underway.

Rule 24 covers lights for vessels towing and pushing.

Rule 25 covers light requirements for sailing vessels underway and vessels under oars.

Rule 26 covers light requirements for fishing vessels.

Rule 27 covers light requirements for vessels not under command or restricted in their ability to manoeuvre.

Rule 28 covers light requirements for vessels constrained by their draught.

Rule 29 covers light requirements for pilot vessels.

Rule 30 covers light requirements for vessels anchored and aground.Rule 31 covers light requirements for seaplanes


Red by red is not a pernitted arrangement.

http://www.bluemoment.com/colregs.html

[Capt. Matt]

Ahhh so why would he have red next to red? Error? 

[sadsid (†2016)]

A vessel not under command shall exhibit:

    *

      (i) two all-round red lights in a vertical line where they can best be seen;
                                                                                                   Eric 

[TerryRussell]

Yep, but the original question was about two red lights horizontally (side by side) if I  understand correctly.

P.S. according to the COLREGS, a vessel aground but not requiring assistance can also display two red lights vertically. But not horizontally.

[Ballast]

You could have find the anwser to your question in our very own COLREG topic... Tadaaa!!! (http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,13434.0.html)

[Ballast]

Yep, but the original question was about two red lights horizontally (side by side) if I  understand correctly.

P.S. according to the COLREGS, a vessel aground but not requiring assistance can also display two red lights vertically. But not horizontally.

When aground, the vessel should also show the appropriate anchor signs, e.g anchor lights or the anchor day sign together with the 'not under command' (N.O.C) lights.

[TerryRussell]

When aground, the vessel should also show the appropriate anchor signs, e.g anchor lights or the anchor day sign together with the 'not under command' (N.O.C) lights.

That is described in Rule 30, of course.

[TJK]

I tooth red over red means  they have a diver out, that are the coast card in Norway and the safety guard ship use if i don't remember wrong but I'm not a expert lol
TJK

[Capt. Matt]

Ballast I looked in your topic hmm tore never heard of that but the situation was a 130 ft approx. catamaran ferry docking on a sunny day now wind blowing with plenty of water etc etc.

[TJK]

Ballast I looked in your topic hmm tore never heard of that but the situation was a 130 ft approx. catamaran ferry docking on a sunny day now wind blowing with plenty of water etc etc.

well as i say, I'm no expert

[Capt. Matt]

hehe

[Traddles]

Here is another odd one. Where could you see a moored ship showing her navigation lights signifying she is underway? And no, it is not a trick question.

[Capt. Matt]

Not morred about to more

[Traddles]

I said it was not a trick question. The Ship is definitely moored and the 3rd mate has not forgotten to switch off the navigation lights, he knows the ship IS required to have the lights on.