Topic: HTML: Love it or Hate it? (Read 2696 times)

firestar12 · « **on:** May 23, 2009, 14:49:12 »

Do any of you guys use HTML to build websites? What do you think of it? I love it.

firestar12 · « **Reply #1 on:** May 23, 2009, 14:59:33 »

Yes, I wonder if forums support html or just use bbc. Do you have any tips that might be of use to me?

bsm2003 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 23, 2009, 16:31:22 »

http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/php/2001/05/03/php_foundations.html

http://php.about.com/od/learnphp/qt/php_with_html.htm

TerryRussell · « **Reply #3 on:** May 24, 2009, 12:04:13 »

All web pages have to be presented in HTML format.

If you mean "Do you write the plain HTML text, or do you use PHP, ASP, PERL etc to write the HTML code?", my answer is:

http://www.iso9000.co.uk - written using Notepad (I write the raw code)

Creators Forum - I wrote that in PERL, which then writes the HTML code "on the fly", depening on which buttons you have clicked.

But ultimately, no matter how the HTML code is produced, it has to be sent to your browser as HTML, or else it can't understand it.
<html>
<head>
<title>Page title here</title> etc.....

JHB · « **Reply #4 on:** May 24, 2009, 12:12:33 »

But HTML is nothing without CSS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascading_Style_Sheets (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascading_Style_Sheets)

Then you may have a string like this one for DIV:

<div align="center" id="mycontent" class="mycontent"></div>

where it's using a CSS stylesheet class named "mycontent" and where this class may look like this:

@charset "utf-8";
#mycontent {
   background-color: #009900;
   font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
   margin-left: 5px;
   margin-top: 5px;
}

firestar12 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 24, 2009, 14:31:35 »

Quote from: TerryRussell on May 24, 2009, 12:04:13

All web pages have to be presented in HTML format.

If you mean "Do you write the plain HTML text, or do you use PHP, ASP, PERL etc to write the HTML code?", my answer is:

http://www.iso9000.co.uk - written using Notepad (I write the raw code)

Creators Forum - I wrote that in PERL, which then writes the HTML code "on the fly", depening on which buttons you have clicked.

But ultimately, no matter how the HTML code is produced, it has to be sent to your browser as HTML, or else it can't understand it.
<html>
<head>
<title>Page title here</title> etc.....

Wow Terry, you must be really good! I have a question though. You know on your http://www.iso9000.co.uk, where it says home, create your system, etc...you did that where it turns red using the hover code right?

TerryRussell · « **Reply #6 on:** May 24, 2009, 17:36:28 »

Sort of.

I use cascading style sheets quite a lot, but with javascript for those people who have it switched on in their browser. That modifies the hover attribute.

It's a bit complex, but try doing "view source" from the web page. Not all of the code is shown, as there are a number of "link rel" attributes on the page. They suck in a lot of other code that isn't displayed.

RMS Canada · « **Reply #7 on:** May 24, 2009, 18:14:02 »

HTML?

TerryRussell · « **Reply #8 on:** May 24, 2009, 18:25:12 »

Hyper Text Markup Language.

The format in which web pages are written, so that your browser can display them.

<p>This is a paragraph</p>

<table>
<tr>
<td>Cell 1 in the first row of the table</td>
<td>Cell 2 in the first row of the table</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Cell 1 in the second row of the table</td>
<td>Cell 2 in the second row of the table</td>
</tr>
</table>

And so on...

firestar12 · « **Reply #9 on:** May 24, 2009, 22:43:00 »

Quote from: TerryRussell on May 24, 2009, 18:25:12

Hyper Text Markup Language.

The format in which web pages are written, so that your browser can display them.

<p>This is a paragraph</p>

<table>
<tr>
<td>Cell 1 in the first row of the table</td>
<td>Cell 2 in the first row of the table</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Cell 1 in the second row of the table</td>
<td>Cell 2 in the second row of the table</td>
</tr>
</table>

And so on...

Actually, I knew those codes!

TerryRussell · « **Reply #10 on:** May 24, 2009, 23:03:45 »

YAY!

<style type="text/css">
body {
margin-top: 1px;
margin-right: 1px;
margin-left: 2px;
margin-bottom: 1px;
paddding: 0px;
font-family: 'Gill Sans', Verdana, 'Helvetica Narrow', sans-serif;
font-size: 0.7em;
}

form {
font-family: 'Gill Sans', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;
color: black;
font-size: 85%;
}
</style>

firestar12 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 24, 2009, 23:08:14 »

That one was a little more complex than what I am used to at this level. (I have only been using it for 2-3 days)

TerryRussell · « **Reply #12 on:** May 24, 2009, 23:21:41 »

Just put that in the <head" section, before the </head> tag.

Then try changing the numerical values (0.7, 0, etc) and see what happen to your page.

The form section only affects form elements (input boxes used when submitting a query)

Put this dummy form into the <body> section of your page:

<form name="Firestar01">
<input type="text" value="" name="input01" size="50">
</form>

Then when you change the form section of the style sheet, you'll see the input box change.

firestar12 · « **Reply #13 on:** May 24, 2009, 23:42:51 »

So then
<form name="Firestar01">
<input type="text" value="" name="input01" size="50">
</form>
Would be kinda like a search engine?

TerryRussell · « **Reply #14 on:** May 25, 2009, 01:52:20 »

You'd need to tell the form where to send the information and also you'd have to have some other set of programs at the server to read the information:

So if you typed "MAD_FRED" into that box and it was linked to a program on my server, I could catch the contents of that box using (in Perl):

$query=$FORM{'input01'};

so $query would hold the value "MAD_FRED". The rest of the program would have to know what to do:

print "<p><font color='red'>You said</font><font color='blue'> $query</font></p>";

which would say
You said MAD_FRED
on the web page.

firestar12 · « **Reply #15 on:** May 25, 2009, 01:57:18 »

Ah yes, I had just learned about that earlier, right after you had said that. I was able to make a form with First and Last name, gender, and username! It was fun...

Here it is if you want to see it. (Just open it up in your web browser, not really meant for Terry, I am sure he knows that, but meant for people who don't know about this stuff)

RMS Canada · « **Reply #16 on:** May 25, 2009, 16:51:57 »

Quote from: TerryRussell on May 24, 2009, 18:25:12

Hyper Text Markup Language.

The format in which web pages are written, so that your browser can display them.

<p>This is a paragraph</p>

<table>
<tr>
<td>Cell 1 in the first row of the table</td>
<td>Cell 2 in the first row of the table</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Cell 1 in the second row of the table</td>
<td>Cell 2 in the second row of the table</td>
</tr>
</table>

And so on...

Ah, now I get it.

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