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Gloat

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Too many overboards!
« on: January 03, 2009, 01:15:24 »

Somthing has to be done about this! Too many people are falling of board our cruise ships! Look at these!
Nearly all of them are from Carnivals ships. This shows that they need much improving

Thanks to Washington News for the following:

Women aboard the Norwigen Pearl reported overboard, suspectidly suicide or murder, no witnesses yet
The family of a Norwegian Cruise Line passenger who has been missing since Christmas said on Monday that it’s likely the woman “chose an unfortunate ending to her life,” jumping off a balcony on the cruise ship into the waters of the Gulf of Mexico.

On Monday, the U.S. Coast Guard suspended the search for the passenger, Florida journalist Jennifer Ellis Seitz, after covering more than 4,200 square miles of ocean off the coast of the Mexican resort of Cancun. Mexican authorities are reportedly continuing their search for another 48 hours.


In a statement issued by her family to The News Chief newspaper, it was noted that Seitz had “previous emotional issues,” although there were no signs that she was in distress during the seven-night cruise.

“Jennifer was in a very happy and uplifted mood both before and during the cruise,” the family indicated. “She was excited about starting a new job and her future career with a local newspaper. She and her husband had been talking about starting their family. The family suspects that Jennifer chose an unfortunate ending to her life. She was a beautiful and caring person and will be truly missed by all who love her.”

The passenger and her husband, Raymond Seitz, were on the Norwegian Pearl cruise celebrating their one-year anniversary.

Thanks to www.chron.com for the above quotes, for more information on this article please visit their website.

Thanks to MSNBC (ABC news)
Off-duty entertainment crewmember of Carnival Sensation seen falling overboard by six passengers.
The Coast Guard is searching for a cruise ship employee who fell overboard the Carnival Sensation about 20 miles east of Vero Beach early this morning.

The man is a member of the entertainment staff and was off-duty, according to a statement issued by Carnival. He was seen falling overboard by six crew members about 12:40 a.m., the statement said.

The cruise was returning to Port Canaveral after a four-day Bahamas cruise that started Sunday.

The man, who has not been identified by authorities or by Carnival officials, was the second person to go overboard on a cruise ship in a week. Jennifer Ellis-Seitz, 36, of Winter Haven, was reported missing from the Norwegian Pearl off Cancun, Mexico, last Friday. She has not been found, and that search has been called off.

The Carnival incident was reported to cruise officials by co-workers around 12:50 a.m. Ship personnel contacted the Coast Guard for assistance and started a search for the employee.

Coast Guard search and rescue efforts in Miami and Fort Pierce are using one plane, two helicopters, including one from Clearwater, two 87-foot cutters and a 33-foot response boat. Later today, a C-130 Hercules fixed-wing aircraft will be added, said Petty Officer Second Class James Harless.

The Norwegian Pearl returned to Miami on Sunday after its seven-day cruise to the western Caribbean. The Coast Guard reported images from a ship surveillance camera of someone falling from the ship about 8 p.m. Dec. 25. Raymond Seitz reported his wife missing shortly before 4 a.m. last Friday.
Other incidents (MAINLY OLD NEWS)


Thanks to www.Baltimoresun.com for all the following:

Chineese national reported missing (overboard unknown but strongly suspected
February 18, 2008: A 28-year-old Chinese national was reported missing after he failed to show for roll call aboard Celebrity Cruise's Constellation. The Coast Guard aircraft and boat crews focused on a 24-square-mile swath of ocean off Hillsboro Beach. The man may have fallen off the ship as it was approaching Port Everglades.

Couple fell overboard Grand Princess and rescued
March 25, 2007: A 22-year-old man and 20-year-old woman fell 50 to 60 feet from a cabin balcony from a cruise ship in the Gulf of Mexico, but both were rescued after a four-hour search and appeared to be in good condition. Their ship, Princess Cruise's Grand Princess, was about 150 miles off the coast of Galveston, Texas, at the time.

Man survives 60 ft plunge
March 16, 2007: Michael Mankamyer, a 35-year-old Orlando man, survived a 60-foot plunge from a cruise ship off Fort Lauderdale. Mankamyer floated for eight hours in the Atlantic Ocean after witnesses said he lunged off the balcony of his cabin on the Carnival Glory cruise ship. Mankamyer, suffering from a collapsed lung and mild hypothermia, was flown to Jackson Memorial Hospital in Miami, where he was sedated and a tube was helping him to breathe. Snatched up by the Gulf Stream, he had drifted 20 miles from where he was reported overboard.

Drunk fished out of sea
July 1, 2007: Scott Durbin had been drinking with his three buddies on the Carnival Liberty since it left Fort Lauderdale before he leaped into the ocean. Durbin climbed into a lifeboat, took an emergency ax and started to chop at the ropes. The ship's assistant security chief started climbing toward the 28-year-old Rockville, Md., man and told him to get down. Durbin plunged almost 36 feet into the ocean, about 50 miles off Boca Raton. The Coast Guard had a cutter only nine miles away that fished him out of the water less than an hour later.

Women dissapeared - no search
September 11, 2006: A 36-year-old Ohio woman on a cruise to Key West and Mexico apparently fell from the Carnival Cruise Lines ship Imagination as it crossed the Gulf of Mexico to return to Miami. The Ohio woman had been traveling with family members, who last saw her early in the morning on Sunday, several hours after the ship had sailed from Calica, Mexico, which is near Playa del Carmen. Coast Guard spokesman Dana Warr said that there were no planes or vessels launched to search for the woman because it had been nearly 36 hours since anyone had last seen her.

Man overboard
May 15, 2006: Daniel DiPiero, 21, of Canfield, Ohio is reported missing by friends after realizing he had not slept in the cabin they shared on the Royal Caribbean's Mariner of the Seas. The cruise liner was searched. The ship was headed to Stirrup Cay near Grand Bahama Island in the Bahamas when DiPiero was last seen. A review of ship camera footage last showed DiPiero around 2:15 a.m. on the fourth deck, leaning on a rail near the front of the ship. The Bahamian Coast Guard and Royal Caribbean officials were helping search for DiPiero.

Teen plunge
January 5, 2006: A 15-year- old cruise passenger from Ireland was reported missing in waters off Mexico's Yucatan peninsula. The passenger, who was traveling with her family, was aboard the cruise ship Costa Magica, which left Fort Lauderdale on New Year's Day for a weeklong Western Caribbean itinerary. The cruise ship then circled the area until Mexican Navy vessels arrived to aid in the search.

MURDER?
July 5, 2005: George Allen Smith IV of Greenwich vanished from a Royal Caribbean ship on his honeymoon in the Mediterranean between Greece and Turkey. The FBI investigated, but no one has been charged and no body has been recovered. Authorities have called Smith's disappearance suspicious. Blood stains were found running from the balcony of Smith's cabin to life boats, and a hand print was discovered on the side of the ship.

Man from Casino cruise
March 22, 2004: David Pincus, a 39-year-old Massachusetts man who fell off a casino cruise ship near the Port of Palm Beach. Pincus was on the ship with his brother and sister-in-law. The trio, along with several hundred others, left for five hours of dining and dancing. About halfway through the trip, Pincus' family told the ship's staff that he was missing. The Coast Guard sent a boat from the Lake Worth Inlet and a helicopter from Miami to search for Pincus.

Sources: Sun-Sentinel news archives, AP.

Thanks to the ABC Newcastle news for the following

The 58-year-old woman fell overboard near Kilaben Bay as the cruiser was turning in rough seas whipped up by strong southerly winds.

A man who heard the woman's cries for help, took to the water in a dingy and was able to help police locate her, so she could be rescued.

The Sydney woman who had been in the water for more than 40 minutes was treated on the scene by ambulance officers for Hypothermia and shock before being taken to Belmont Hospital.


Thanks to Shipping Times for this:

Pride of Rotterdam Crewman, search called off
Yarmouth Coastguard launched a major search operation off the East coast of England this morning after a crewman was reported missing from the ferry Pride Of Rotterdam on route from Holland to Hull.

Yarmouth Coastguard received a call at 5am from the Pride Of Rotterdam reporting that a crew member was missing and had not been seen since midnight. The ferry was on route from Holland overnight and making its way towards the entrance to the River Humber presenting a very large search area stretching approximately 100 nautical miles from just East of Lowestoft up to the River Humber.

A large number of search and rescue units were launched; six RNLI lifeboats from Humber, Gorleston, Lowestoft, Cromer, Cleethorpes, Wells and Skegness, the independent lifeboat from Caister, RAF Rescue Helicopters 125 from Wattisham and 128 from Leconfield. Six Coastguard Teams have also been searching a long stretch of coastline in case the crew member had made it to shore. Coastguard Rescue Teams involved are Cleethorpes, Donna Nook, Winterton, Cromer, Mundesley and Happisburgh.


Yarmouth Coastguard Watch Manager Peter Wheeler said,

"An extensive search has been undertaken by many rescuers today involved in this operation. Unfortunately, hopes of finding the crewman from the ferry are fading and with the sea temperature of 10 degrees centigrade there is limited survival time in the water at this time of year."

Thanks to BBC news for the following:

Man falls of fishing boat


The man who died after falling from a fishing crusier in Lough Neagh on Monday night was Martin Wylie, a father of two from County Tyrone

Mr Wylie had lived by and worked on the lough all his life. He fell as the boat returned to a quay near Ardboe.

The two friends he was with did their best to save him, throwing a lifebelt and trying to turn and get him, but by the time they did, he was gone.

His body was found after a search resumed on Tuesday morning.

Mr Wylie, described as a popular and competent fisherman, had two daughters.

One theory is that he may have slipped on ice at the stern of the boat as he prepared to help tie it up at about 2100 GMT on Monday.

A rescue operation was launched with Coastguard co-ordination, but ended at 2322 GMT with water temperatures dropping to four degrees Celsius.

Scores of locals turned out to help the police and coastguard in the resumed search for Mr Wylie on Tuesday morning.

It was one of the volunteer teams which recovered his body at about 1115 GMT.

Lifeboats

The Lough Neagh Independent Rescue Lifeboats from Ardboe on the western shore and Kinnego in the southern end of the lough were sent by the Coastguard to the area on Monday night and the police helicopter also joined the search.

Shoreline searches were carried out by the Kinnego Coastguard Team along with lifeboat shore crews from Ardboe. Fire crews from Cookstown also joined the search.

Belfast Coastguard Watch Manager Steve Palmer said more than a mile of water and shoreline were searched using illumination from the police helicopter.

"Despite the valiant efforts of all concerned we did not manage to find the man who had fallen overboard," he said.

Praise

"I can only praise the efforts of all search units involved and had this person been visible at any time, the units would have probably located him."

Parish priest Father Seamus McGinley said it was "a testing time" for the family.

"There is a feeling of disbelief and devastation, especially at this time of year.

"Coming into the season of Christmas, the thoughts and prayers of the whole community are with the family."

Lough Neagh is the largest lake in the British Isles. It has had a voluntary rescue team since 1989.


Rescued, but dead
A man has died after he was hit by the boom of a yacht and knocked overboard off the coast of south Wales.

Swansea Coastguard said he was on a 27ft vessel called Gun Smoke in the Bristol Channel when the incident happened on Sunday afternoon,

A second man on the yacht made a distress call and coastguards immediately launched a major rescue.

The unconscious man was winched out of the sea and airlifted to hospital in Cardiff, where he was pronounced dead.

Swansea Coastguard received a mayday call reporting the man overboard at about 1500 BST on Sunday.

The yacht was five miles south of Rhoose Point when he was hit by the boom of the yacht and knocked into the water, they said.

Unconscious

Six vessels in the area at the time immediately went to help and at the same time lifeboats from Barry and Minehead in Somerset were requested to launch.

A coastguard spokesman said a rescue helicopter from RAF Chivenor in Devon scrambled and the man, who was wearing a lifejacket, was spotted in the water unconscious.

The man was later pronounced dead at the University Hospital of Wales in Cardiff.

Arwyn Williams, from Swansea Coastguard, said: "The sailor remaining on the yacht did the right thing in calling for help straight away, so we could get assistance to him fast so as to help his colleague.

"Sadly, in this incident, the injured sailor was declared dead at the hospital.

"This has been a tragic incident, which should have been a pleasurable day's sailing.

"Our thoughts are extended to the family of this man at this time."


Elder overboard
An elderly man from Berkshire who fell overboard into a Hampshire river refused to be flown to hospital.

The alarm was raised on Wednesday after the man fell into the River Hamble.

He managed to cling to the arms of a woman in another boat but was in the water for 10 minutes before being assisted to shore.

When rescuers arrived, the man said he did not want to go in the helicopter and he was transferred to hospital by ambulance. He was later released.

Geoff Matthews, Solent Coastguard watch officer, said: "The woman didn't have the strength to pull him in and the owner couldn't assist as he was at the helm.

'Rare occurrence'

"It got very dramatic for a few minutes until they managed to get extra assistance and finally got into Hamble jetty."

Mr Matthews said the helicopter was ready to take the man, who is from Kintbury, to hospital when he refused.

He added: "That is quite a rare occurrence, most people are very glad to see our helicopter turn up.

"But in this case the gentleman really didn't want to go, he said it was unnecessary and we did a land transfer to ambulance.

"Our job is search and rescue, and the rescue part of it means we're taking people in danger and taking them to place of safety.

"In this case we were able to use an ambulance, but if there was no other option we would have had to take him in the helicopter, that is our job."

Man dies in club boat
An investigation has been launched into a man's death after he fell into the Forth from a boat off the coast of Fife.

Stephen Robinson, 49, of Rosyth, died on Saturday after he fell overboard at 1330 BST from a North Queensferry Boat and Sports Club boat.

Fife Constabulary said there were no suspicious circumstances.

Insp Brian Sinclair said "This appears to have been a tragic accident and our thoughts are with the family."

Man overboard Red Funnel has been named
 
Mr Freeman was the only foot passenger on the ferry
A man whose body was recovered from the Solent after he fell overboard from an Isle of Wight ferry has been named.
David Anthony Freeman, 42, was the only foot passenger on the 2330 GMT Red Funnel service from East Cowes to Southampton on Thursday.

When the ferry docked at the town quay berth in Southampton, Mr Freeman, from the city's Sholing area, was missing.

An air and sea search was launched and he was found near Cowes the next day. Police are appealing for information.

A spokesman said: "Police are now trying to establish Mr Freeman's movements immediately leading up to his disappearance.

"They are appealing for anyone who knew Mr Freeman or saw him on the ferry or while he was in Cowes that evening prior to boarding the ferry, to contact them."

His next-of-kin have been informed, the spokesman added.

Warship assists man overboard
Police have identified a man who fell from a ferry off Pembrokeshire's coast last month but his body is still to be recovered.
Jonathon Evans, 44, who recently worked in Bournemouth but had family links in County Mayo and Carmarthen, was on the Rosslare to Pembroke Dock crossing.

He fell from the Isle of Innishmore ferry at about 2130BST on 16 June.

A French warship and its helicopter, as well as other vessels in the area, took part in the search for him.

But the operation was called off when no trace of him could be found.

Police say when Mr Evans disappeared he was wearing a black jacket, light coloured jeans, black shoes and he was carrying a large black rucksack.

Proven to be murder

Sixty six African migrants are dead or missing after being forced overboard by people traffickers off the coast of Yemen, the UN refugee agency says.
The incident involved two smugglers' boats that left the Somali coastal town of Bossaso on Saturday with 244 people aboard, mostly Somalis and Ethiopians.

Survivors say the victims drowned when they were forced into deep water after reaching the Yemen coast on Sunday.

More than 20,000 people have made the crossing from East Africa this year.

But more than 400 have died while crossing the Gulf of Aden to Yemen and with as many again missing and feared dead, the UNHCR says.

'Roughed up'

UNHCR spokesman Ron Redmond said 28 migrants had been confirmed dead in the latest incident

A further 38 people are still missing.

The UNCHR says a total of 178 people managed to make it to shore.

The survivors say they were roughed up on the boats by the people-traffickers; some also reported being robbed by Yemeni military personnel.

Aid workers arriving on the scene provided food and water before transferring the group to UNHCR's Mayfaa reception centre.

Chemical tanker crewman dead
Police have named a man who is believed to have fallen overboard from a chemical tanker in the Bristol Channel.
Andrew Magasino, a 33-year-old Filipino, was last seen at 1500 BST on Tuesday, onboard the Bro Joinville.

A search was started but was called off on Wednesday when coastguards said it was unlikely he would be found alive if he was still in the water.

The Swedish tanker was four miles south of Break Sea Point, near Barry, south Wales, when Mr Magasino disappeared.
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MrFlappy102

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Re: Too many overboards!
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2009, 01:31:03 »

Yeah but it's not just cruise ships, there are plenty of times where people have fallen off cargo ships. You just don't here about it because sadly it's not as big of a deal when a cargo sailer falls off as it is when a civilian passenger  :-\
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Re: Too many overboards!
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2009, 01:45:09 »

Perhaps there is something so depressing about being on a cruise ship—as opposed to a real ship—that people want to escape by any means.
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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2009, 09:52:44 »

I always though that cruise ships were built with optimum safety in mind, and actually, how they fall overboard I dont know, they must have climbed up onto the railings. But it is very sad to see so many people go down to the depths off any ship :(
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Re: Too many overboards!
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2009, 11:17:01 »

You know, there is something I learnt, that really is true, is that "The sea will always be more powerful than you, whatever ship/boat you may have". Going to sea is always risky, I'm sure other people here will tell you that, like Ballast for example. There have been times where we have been caught out in fog, and rough sea's. The sea can change so quickly. Its never the same.

I'm not saying that the above relates to that as such, but, accidents can happen too.

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Re: Too many overboards!
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2009, 11:21:56 »

You know, there is something I learnt, that really is true, is that "The sea will always be more powerful than you, whatever ship/boat you may have". Going to sea is always risky, I'm sure other people here will tell you that, like Ballast for example. There have been times where we have been caught out in fog, and rough sea's. The sea can change so quickly. Its never the same.

I'm not saying that the above relates to that as such, but, accidents can happen too.

Jack.

Like Jack says if you go to sea- you take the risk, like in the summer of 2008 I was fishing in the north sea and the weather picked up, and  before we could get to port the waves were 2 meaters high [scary in a 7m boat]. I came about 6 inches from falling over the side, and have you ever tryied swiming with full oilskins and boots on?
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Re: Too many overboards!
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2009, 11:43:21 »

As I pointed out, it happenes on a lot of Carnival ships - somthing is wrong with them, has anyone been on a Carnival ship? how are they like?
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Re: Too many overboards!
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2009, 11:58:51 »

I'm pretty sure they all meet international safety standards.. It seems unlikely that they would have their railings too low, or something silly like that.  :)

I bet if you had all the info on a global scale, from each incident, Carnival might stick out much less. Perhaps a presumption lead to a biassed search even?!   :P



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Re: Too many overboards!
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2009, 13:07:31 »

There is actually a large amount of alcohol consumed on cruise ships, which could possibly have some connection to the problem described. The amounts of booze put on board these ships is quite phenomenal. Probably not a great deal wrong with the ships just the talking cargoes. :police:
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Re: Too many overboards!
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2009, 15:45:55 »

thats in a story - one strank alcohole and fell aboard
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« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2009, 15:54:08 »

Two Years ago, me and my parents where passing calais on our Sailing yacht.
And a cross channel ferry suddenly reported a Panpan biceaus someone fell off the ship.
Sadly, we didn't hear if he got saved.
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