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Title: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: RMS Gigantic on March 08, 2008, 05:52:56
Why isn't "Liverpool Titanic"written on Titanic's stern?
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: Captain Best on March 13, 2008, 18:56:54
Why isn't "Liverpool Titanic"written on Titanic's stern?
its gone on mee too. is it a bug?
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: NathanC on March 13, 2008, 19:04:51
Nope, they just didn't model that part.
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: Captain Best on March 13, 2008, 19:27:26
Nope, they just didn't model that part.
ok i did think that too before
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: RMS Gigantic on March 13, 2008, 23:23:23
but WHY wasn't it modeled? it isn't a 3D polygon!
Title: Re: "Titanic Liverpool" gone...
Post by: RMS Gigantic on March 30, 2008, 10:19:41
oops... it's actually "Titanic Liverpool"

but still, where is it?
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: Ship Sim on April 06, 2008, 07:09:25
Because they didnt think anyone would notice. or they forgot. ;)
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 06, 2008, 11:13:30
No one would notice? It's one ofthe most famous parts of the ship!
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: NathanC on April 06, 2008, 11:21:01
I really don't think there is an excuse for missing out this part of the ship. I think it definetly should be sorted out in a Later patch, as that is a very famous part of the ship.....
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: Third Mate on April 06, 2008, 11:36:37
Speaking if missing important parts and feature the Titanic has to offer, i remembers 2.At the bow, near the red line there was like a scale to show the depth of the bow, and also there suppose to be coming out white steam to you know ;).Here's the smoke(missing), now i don't know exactly the story behind this but im working on it, i know it has to be there to.Currently this it's kinda late and im am too tired to doo any more reasrch, but you get an idea here.

Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: Traddles on April 06, 2008, 16:46:53
Hello Third Mate,
Where did you get that picture? It doesn't look to me as if it came from Ship Simulator. The whole thing looks wrong, she even has only three funnels, the bridge front is wrong and she has no name on her bow. Ship Sim "Titanic" has her name there.
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: Captain Best on April 06, 2008, 20:08:16
Hello Third Mate,
Where did you get that picture? It doesn't look to me as if it came from Ship Simulator. The whole thing looks wrong, she even has only three funnels, the bridge front is wrong and she has no name on her bow. Ship Sim "Titanic" has her name there.
yep: this is far far away from titanic in ss08
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: Third Mate on April 07, 2008, 05:37:21
Hello Third Mate,
Where did you get that picture? It doesn't look to me as if it came from Ship Simulator. The whole thing looks wrong, she even has only three funnels, the bridge front is wrong and she has no name on her bow. Ship Sim "Titanic" has her name there.

i think it's from Virtual sailor, or around that area.OMG, you are right who ever made that model forgot the forth funnel,that's pathetic :-X.
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 08, 2008, 03:41:06
i think it's from Virtual sailor, or around that area.OMG, you are right who ever made that model forgot the forth funnel,that's pathetic :-X.
Agreed... unless Third Mate made it to prove his point...
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 08, 2008, 03:47:31
The SS08 Titanic is also missing her notice boards, and all four funnels are of equal heights. And she's without the board of trade mark. And rivets. And the Draft numbers Third Mate mentioned were also at the stern, foreward of the rudder, which the model also lacks. and the lifeboats are without the "SS Titanic" and  "Liverpool" labels. and her bells are gone. The doors on the foremast to access the crows nest are also missing.
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: Third Mate on April 08, 2008, 06:00:41
And it need more particles in the smoke to peoples,by the looks of it it's not a diesel fuel efficient vessel.
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 08, 2008, 14:46:35
And it need more particles in the smoke to peoples,by the looks of it it's not a diesel fuel efficient vessel.
lol, at about this time the guys at Vstep are probably loosing their minds.
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: Captain Best on April 08, 2008, 14:55:20
lol, at about this time the guys at Vstep are probably loosing their minds.
(http://www.mpssclan.co.uk/forum/Smileys/default/wreckpc.gif)
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 08, 2008, 15:00:31
(http://www.mpssclan.co.uk/forum/Smileys/default/wreckpc.gif)
exactly!
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: Third Mate on April 09, 2008, 05:01:02
 Man overboard! :o
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 11, 2008, 22:47:56
The model also lacks a gate that had been at the top of the staircase below and aft of the foremost cranes. The least they could do is show it open.
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: Third Mate on April 12, 2008, 06:10:31
Im not sure if this is the right topic but anyway, i got a close shot of that bug on the titanic that really needs some attention sometime.
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: Third Mate on April 12, 2008, 07:32:28
I have found a picture if the bridge of the Titanic.Now according to this the ship had only 4 telegraphs instead of 5 and if you look at the steering wheel it has like a floor support wooden thing to step on.

And the sealing had no lines as well.And believe it or not the empty room behind the player sitting at the helm is the radio room indeed, and here are pictures and information about it, just in case it will be added to the ship sometime:
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.hf.ro/radioroom.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.hf.ro/&h=338&w=600&sz=48&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=Ynjk-0_5H5vX4M:&tbnh=76&tbnw=135&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtitanic%2Bradio%2Broom%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 12, 2008, 09:44:44
Im not sure if this is the right topic but anyway, i got a close shot of that bug on the titanic that really needs some attention sometime.
what bug?
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: Shipaddict on April 12, 2008, 09:45:59
Im not sure if this is the right topic but anyway, i got a close shot of that bug on the titanic that really needs some attention sometime.

As far as i know, the real thing had that. I'm sure i saw a pic somewhere...
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 12, 2008, 09:48:03
As far as i know, the real thing had that. I'm sure i saw a pic somewhere...
my point exactly. pics from hull construction show it.
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: Third Mate on April 12, 2008, 10:42:24

Oh boy, looks like its gonna take awhile to convince people that the blue thing is a bug, that Titanic did not have it, and was not part of the ship.Instead the ship had that area charcoal black or just black.I will not rest until this blue thing is changed color to a proper black hole.I know it's not suppose to be there, im sure of it.
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: LucAtC on April 12, 2008, 12:57:40
Hello Third Mate,
In the  same source (http://www.hf.ro/) that you quote
..... And believe it or not the empty room behind the player sitting at the helm is the radio room indeed, and here are pictures and information about it, ....
this text mentions a different location for the radio room
Quote
Location of the radio room

The "Marconi room" was situated on the boat deck (ie: the same deck as the bridge), at the after end of the superstructure containing the bridge and officer's accommodation - it was about 40 feet aft from the bridge, connected via the corridor which ran down the port side of the officer's quarters.

The operating room was in the centre of the accommodation - it did not have an outside facing porthole. Natural light was provided via a skylight in the deckhead (ceiling).

The R/O's sleeping accommodation was in a separate room to starboard of the operating room - connected to the operating room by an interconnecting door. The R/O's shared the officer's toilet/washroom facilities across the corridor.

The Silent Room, containing the main transmitter, was immediately to port of the operating room.

Regards,
Luc
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: LucAtC on April 12, 2008, 13:31:41
Hello Third Mate,
I have found a picture if the bridge of the Titanic.Now according to this the ship had only 4 telegraphs instead of 5 and if you look at the steering wheel it has like a floor support wooden thing to step on.
.........
In this topic (http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/discus/messages/5919/73591.html?1104026572) of Encyclopedia Titanica, it is said that there were 5 telegraphs, with an extensive description of their supposed use. Also, Jason De Donno asks a question in this topic.
Moreover, the picture of the bridge you are showing doesn't show the port part, as only half of Nr 6 can be seen, Nr 8 missing entirely, where the port main engine telegraph could be positioned.
Do you have any other references to support that there were no 5 telegraphs? Comparing references is the best way to be sure indeed.
Regards,
Luc
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 12, 2008, 17:08:13
The Olympic tried to help her sister ^^
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: Third Mate on April 13, 2008, 00:22:30
Thanks for that Luc, it really solved that tangled problem :D.There are so many websites and the all contain all kind of different information about the ship and i do not know what to believe ???, but i can seem to trust this web you gave me :).However i was wondering, is the roof of the bridge meant to be white or meant to have a wooden floor ???.Also i though the inside of the bridge meant to be white and have any lines because thats how i remember it, so yeah...what do you think about that?
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: Third Mate on April 13, 2008, 01:19:28
Hello everybody, i have found Titanic's whistles, and they sound different from the SS08 Titanic.

http://www.titanic-titanic.com/titanic_whistles.shtml

OMG, i just had a brilliant idea to, why not make a second horn button, and Titanic would have a departure whistle and a general whistle(which it has at the moment).Because these whistle sound much different from the SS08 Titanic's.
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: LucAtC on April 13, 2008, 01:46:50
...However i was wondering, is the roof of the bridge meant to be white or meant to have a wooden floor ???.Also i though the inside of the bridge meant to be white and have any lines because thats how i remember it, so yeah...what do you think about that?
Sorry Third Mate, no idea. The only thing one can guess, is that the roof was probably made of 2" planks (battens?) (rigidity, walkable, no iron nor steel) pitchpine?
The joints were probably visible from both sides, and the planks probably painted, so you could be right about that indeed, but I really don't know. Inside wheelhouses wood could have been varnished of painted, "de gustibus...".
I suppose that the grating (right word?) behind the wheel could have been teak wood?

And also, in your sig, may I say that "hard-a-starboard" meant turning the ship to port in these days, and consequently, you would have stopped the port engine, not the starboard one.  ;)
Regards,
Luc

Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: Third Mate on April 13, 2008, 04:15:17
very strange indeed... but that could be a possibility here, my brain is still trying to figure this out....there are a few mistakes, about 7 missing features here in the ship, coming with it about 2 or 3 bugs and errors still.But i will do a full inspection of the ship and i will make a list of the things that are missing bugs again to have everything here.So maybe one day in future they will be resolved.But, i must say VSTEP has done a dam good job on the vessel so far, just needs to be "updated" a little bit more.
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: Third Mate on April 13, 2008, 04:44:16
Inspection of the Royal Mail Steamer Titanic has been completed, here are the results:

Missing features/errors/updates

The flag at the back is upside down

The wooden rails need to be like a cherry brown(darkened)

Lights(Need lot of lights)

Extra white steam coming from that long pipe next to the chimneys(each one)

White steam blowing out of the whistle while it is being blown

Again blue area at the bow, where 3rd anchor hole is located needs to be black and not have any blue around that hole what so ever

"Titanic Liverpool", is missing from the back

Smoke needs more particles

The roof of the bridge house needs to be (wooden floor).

I just had to do this, because i want to help VSTEP make this a better ship :), im not asking to have any fancy stuff, just her ordinary things which are missing at the moment ::).

Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 13, 2008, 05:22:20
Inspection of the Royal Mail Steamer Titanic has been completed, here are the results:

Missing features/errors/updates

The flag at the back is upside down

The wooden rails need to be like a cherry brown(darkened)

Lights(Need lot of lights)

Extra white steam coming from that long pipe next to the chimneys(each one)

White steam blowing out of the whistle while it is being blown

Again blue area at the bow, where 3rd anchor hole is located needs to be black and not have any blue around that hole what so ever

"Titanic Liverpool", is missing from the back

Smoke needs more particles

The roof of the bridge house needs to be either (white(currently) or have a wooden floor)?

I just had to do this, because i want to help VSTEP make this a better ship :), im not asking to have any fancy stuff, just her ordinary things which are missing at the moment ::).


ahem?

(from page one)

The SS08 Titanic is also missing her notice boards, and all four funnels are of equal heights. And she's without the board of trade mark. And rivets. And the Draft numbers Third Mate mentioned were also at the stern, foreward of the rudder, which the model also lacks. and the lifeboats are without the "SS Titanic" and  "Liverpool" labels. and her bells are gone. The doors on the foremast to access the crows nest are also missing.
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: Third Mate on April 13, 2008, 06:24:44
Plenty more there.... :-X, thanks for that.Must of missed a few.
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: Third Mate on April 13, 2008, 11:32:28
I have discovered another missing thing.This one is part of each of the 4 funnels.Now at the top of each funnel there as like a smoke guard thing, sadly i have no idea what it was acualy called but each of the 4 funnel's had one on top.this is the only picture i could put on because i could not find a better example.Lets just hope they will patch up this ship sometime, because these updates really need to be done.

I just know VSTEP is going to have so much fun with this already  ;D.
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: Captain Best on April 13, 2008, 11:59:32
I have discovered another missing thing.This one is part of each of the 4 funnels.Now at the top of each funnel there as like a smoke guard thing, sadly i have no idea what it was acualy called but each of the 4 funnel's had one on top.this is the only picture i could put on because i could not find a better example.Lets just hope they will patch up this ship sometime, because these updates really need to be done.

I just know VSTEP is going to have so much fun with this already  ;D.
yes they do. but the 4. funnel has a little different top ;D
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: Captain Best on April 13, 2008, 12:02:51
Hello everybody, i have found Titanic's whistles, and they sound different from the SS08 Titanic.

http://www.titanic-titanic.com/titanic_whistles.shtml

OMG, i just had a brilliant idea to, why not make a second horn button, and Titanic would have a departure whistle and a general whistle(which it has at the moment).Because these whistle sound much different from the SS08 Titanic's.
hey Third Mate, i think someone can save this horn and put the horn in here. so can we put this horn into the game ;D
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 13, 2008, 23:31:49
hey Third Mate, i think someone can save this horn and put the horn in here. so can we put this horn into the game ;D
the whistle is already in the game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cxqchAlCQA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cxqchAlCQA)
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: Third Mate on April 14, 2008, 05:43:55
hey Third Mate, i think someone can save this horn and put the horn in here. so can we put this horn into the game ;D

OH YES THAT WOULD BE SO AWSUM, think how good it will sound :D:D:D:D
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: Third Mate on April 14, 2008, 05:47:06
yes they do. but the 4. funnel has a little different top ;D

Indeed, you are correct here Capitan, and aperantly the dummy funnel was used as ventilation, and believe it or not there was actually smoke coming out of the funnel, but just little dough, that was that extra stuff that was not need it.Had to come on one way to ;) :)
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: Captain Best on April 14, 2008, 14:14:35
the whistle is already in the game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cxqchAlCQA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cxqchAlCQA)
this was two different horns. this horn most be fake to Titanic. indeed Third mate got a more realistic site ;D
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: Third Mate on April 15, 2008, 11:11:28
this was two different horns. this horn most be fake to Titanic. indeed Third mate got a more realistic site ;D

That was a low pressure horn blow, however watch this video and hear the horn at a high pressure BLOW that was blowned in April 14,1912 at 12:00 PM !

Horn is blowned in between 2:22 to 2:28

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0zojWt0dN0&feature=related
Always got some of my videos from youtube ;D
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: Captain Best on April 15, 2008, 14:29:32
Is this horn like Titanics horn ???
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 15, 2008, 14:35:26
That was a low pressure horn blow, however watch this video and hear the horn at a high pressure BLOW that was blowned in April 14,1912 at 12:00 PM !

Horn is blowned in between 2:22 to 2:28

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0zojWt0dN0&feature=related
Always got some of my videos from youtube ;D
You ACTUALLY believe the movie has the real horn?

Oh, and btw, to answer your wheel house roof question, it WAS white. The most accurrate Titanic model in the world shows it that way.
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: Shipaddict on April 15, 2008, 17:41:29
Is this horn like Titanics horn ???

No, the first one is Queen Mary 2's from the VS model.

And the second is the Queen Mary 1's horn also from VS.
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 16, 2008, 00:56:59
No, the first one is Queen Mary 2's from the VS model.

And the second is the Queen Mary 1's horn also from VS.
VS? Oh, @#$%, that game has the worst Titanic model I've ever seen!
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: Third Mate on April 16, 2008, 04:42:22
You ACTUALLY believe the movie has the real horn?

Oh, and btw, to answer your wheel house roof question, it WAS white. The most accurate Titanic model in the world shows it that way.

Uh huh, i think it's real, well it was in the movie right?I mean i have heard 3 different whistles from Titanic with this one now.

SS08 horn
Movie Horn
And the one from Mary janes website/Youtube, so which is real one here?


Gee i was confused about the wheel house roof, because in half of the pictures involving the Titanic's wheel house roof, they are have a wooden roof, and in the other half the have a white roof.In the movie to, in half of the movie(begging) you can see the wheel house roof having wooden planks, and the other half of the movie it's white.Man, the world is confusing..... ??? :-X
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: Third Mate on April 16, 2008, 04:53:04
Is this horn like Titanics horn ???

Tanks for the horns capitan best, horn2 found its home with Ocean star, she sounds mean :D
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 16, 2008, 14:56:40
Uh huh, i think it's real, well it was in the movie right?I mean i have heard 3 different whistles from Titanic with this one now.

SS08 horn
Movie Horn
And the one from Mary janes website/Youtube, so which is real one here?


Gee i was confused about the wheel house roof, because in half of the pictures involving the Titanic's wheel house roof, they are have a wooden roof, and in the other half the have a white roof.In the movie to, in half of the movie(begging) you can see the wheel house roof having wooden planks, and the other half of the movie it's white.Man, the world is confusing..... ??? :-X
A little something to remember if you're confused:

When in doubt, NEVER GO TO THE MOVIE!

That movie screws everything up!

I have a book on how to make a copy of the most accurate Titanic model in the world (but I'm no good at model making. It works mainly with wood, if anyone's interested!), and I could prove the movie wrong on soooooooooo many things with this baby! Anyway, the wheel house roof is white.

As for the horn, that was used in ss06 AND youtube, causing me to believe that was it.
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: Captain Best on April 16, 2008, 19:27:19
Tanks for the horns capitan best, horn2 found its home with Ocean star, she sounds mean :D
;D im finding everything ;D
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: mvsmith on April 17, 2008, 22:25:51
I have found a picture if the bridge of the Titanic.Now according to this the ship had only 4 telegraphs instead of 5 and if you look at the steering wheel it has like a floor support wooden thing to step on.


That is actually a picture of Olympic’s bridge. No similar picture for Titanic exists. That is the picture used by Jim Cameron’s art department. The full frame shows part of a fifth telegraph on the port side.
Marty
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 18, 2008, 03:48:19
The ships also lacks the squash courts that sprinkled the decks!

What if I compiled all the errors we found here and posted it on the development corner board?
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 18, 2008, 03:50:00
oh, and the weather-sheilded section of the prominade deck should have windows.
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: Third Mate on April 18, 2008, 05:21:28
The ships also lacks the squash courts that sprinkled the decks!

What if I compiled all the errors we found here and posted it on the development corner board?

Acualy that is not a bad idea, it will make the subject stand out  big time, and it will be put on the "Must TO DO LIST" right at the top.All these errors really need to be fixed, REALLY :-X.
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 18, 2008, 13:19:25
Acualy that is not a bad idea, it will make the subject stand out  big time, and it will be put on the "Must TO DO LIST" right at the top.All these errors really need to be fixed, REALLY :-X.
OK! PUT 'EM ALL ON THE DEVELOPMENT CORNER IT IS!

Please wait...
Title: Re: "Liverpool Titanic" gone...
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 18, 2008, 14:52:30
oops! almost forgot to provide a link to the thread!

http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,7179.msg78209.html#new (http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,7179.msg78209.html#new)