Ship Simulator
English forum => Ship Simulator 2008 => Topic started by: Graeme Heddle on February 15, 2008, 11:09:26
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where exactly is the info for 'new horizons' in the shipsim website?
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There is non, because there isn't enough concrete information for an announcement on the site, I guess.
The things that are known, and some screenshots, are in these threads:
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,4991.0.html
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,5356.0.html
I'm sure there will be something on the website too soon.
Regards,
Fred
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Does 'New Horizons' include patch v1.1 and mission editor?
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Dear Ladies,
dear Gents,
the pics of the new SS2008addon New Horizon looks very goog.
So I am very interested of earning this feature.
But I think it must be allowed to sebd some feedback to the developers.
I will try this in English. But please excuse my bad English.
Can you add a genaral key for resetting the few to ships forward in all views?
Maybe with the option to set the key by the use manually.
It must not be by all user so, but I mean in the perspecive outside view the vertical linrs had to be vertical allways.
It seems that angles of the perspective are too great.
Can you set the option of the outsideview to the waterline surfice. So the ships will be more as in the reality by looking at ten eyeshigh by the user.
Maybe in the future you can implement the option on the outsideview to see the boat underwater for learning more about naval knowledgement.
Best regards
MaddMaxx :)
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Thank you, but that dosen't answer my question. :)
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I NEED THE NEW HORIZENS PATCH FOR FREE NOW ON THE 20th OF FEBRUARY 2008
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I don't think it will be free, and I also don't think it will be finished on the 20th of februay ::)
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I NEED THE NEW HORIZENS PATCH FOR FREE NOW ON THE 20th OF FEBRUARY 2008
Some times using the magic word ( Please, Could, Can and Thank you) All steps work much better for you. ;)
But I don't think the it will be for free due to such a large number of new vessels and a new environment too.
Cheers
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I NEED THE NEW HORIZENS PATCH FOR FREE NOW ON THE 20th OF FEBRUARY 2008
Yeah right... ::)
Consider all work that lies behind a game before you even say something like that... :P
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the New Horizon AddOn is planned to be released on march 22 :
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,5356.0.html (http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,5356.0.html)
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Does 'New Horizons' include patch v1.1 and mission editor?
I assume the addon will automatically update your shipsim version, probably to the 1.3 or 1.4 version.
The mission editor will, to my mind, still be freely available via download on this site ... like the different updates !
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hi guys
ive beeen reading this topic and i realised that HOW COME THERE IS A 'Vstep New Horizon' server.
It not even released So why don't you just save power and turn 'Vstep New Horizon' server OFF.
Thanks
Be GREEN ;D
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I NEED THE NEW HORIZENS PATCH FOR FREE NOW ON THE 20th OF FEBRUARY 2008
Well, you won't get it for free and today.
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v1.4? there isn't a v1.4 yet, is there?
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No.
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hi guys
ive beeen reading this topic and i realised that HOW COME THERE IS A 'Vstep New Horizon' server.
It not even released So why don't you just save power and turn 'Vstep New Horizon' server OFF.
Thanks
Be GREEN ;D
because it is a test server. The developers have to test the ships in multiplayer to see if everyting works good.
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Boy, i'd love to be a developer testing that ;D
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hi guys
ive beeen reading this topic and i realised that HOW COME THERE IS A 'Vstep New Horizon' server.
It not even released So why don't you just save power and turn 'Vstep New Horizon' server OFF.
Thanks
Be GREEN ;D
Because VSTEP new Horizon Server is used for beta testing :-)
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because it is a test server. The developers have to test the ships in multiplayer to see if everyting works good.
you've been faster than me Carl :-)
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v1.4? there isn't a v1.4 yet, is there?
not yet ... But there will probably be a new patch beetween now and the release of the date, I assume.
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you've been faster than me Carl :-)
;D
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I NEED THE NEW HORIZENS PATCH FOR FREE NOW ON THE 20th OF FEBRUARY 2008
You are kidding, right? ::)
Fred
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Greetings,Roebot 65
I NEED THE NEW HORIZENS PATCH FOR FREE NOW ON THE 20th OF FEBRUARY 2008.
May i remind you,that this is not the way to ask info.
You're attitude is below any standard at all.
Regards
Marc
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I NEED THE NEW HORIZENS PATCH FOR FREE NOW ON THE 20th OF FEBRUARY 2008
I demand that you let me have the patch three weeks ago and that you pay me one million pounds in advance.
I think he was joking...
Most of the speculation here is pointless. As with all software development processes, there will be a set of things that:
Must be dOne.
Should be done
Could be dOne
Would be nice to have done
This is known as "MOSCOW" methodology, and is used for developments which are on a fixed budget or a fixed timescale. The higher things get done first. The rest get done as time and finances allow.
V1.4 (should it happen) will certainly be limited budget. Timescales at this stage are probably not so critical as no formal date has been given. No set of definitive specifications have been given either.
What's that hissing sound. Oh-oh. Bubble going down. ;D
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Greetings Terry,
I think he was joking...
Well,on a computer you can can not see what's a joke or not,when it's written.However if someone wrote in Capital caracters it looks like shouting,and the way of asking is realy demanding.
We as mods have to take care of this,this forum has to stay a nice place to go to.Roebot65 did not realy help on that part.
Kind regards
Marc
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Hi Marc.
As I say, I think he was joking.
Surely no-one could actually be that daft and that rude? I thought he was being ironic about the level of posts that seem be placed on the forum recently.
As you say, it is difficult to know sometimes. ;)
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Hi!
I would just like to say : maybe it's a joke or not, in any case, I don't think using capital letters and no emoticon at all, is a good way to let everybody now you are joking...
I disapprove this kind of behaviour, and would like also to thank our mods for their good job! :D
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It's all kinds of freebies out there that want everything for free no matter what.
It's not something new really since its almost common that some expect that software should be free just because it is a virtual product that you only see on a screen. The same goes for computer games. What they completely ignore is the work that lies behind. Large teams of people are working constantly to make new games and software and it's not a cheap process, its expensive!
I don't think he was joking. He was proudly expressing his demanding statement that the New Horizon should be free....with a small ambition that another freebie on the forum would support him on this.
Marc is right about the big letters. We don't need to analyze that so much don't we...
I proudly pay for it as I have paid for anything else that have been released by VSTEP for this game. I support this game 100% and will do that if I even have to sell my car. :P
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I agree with all you say ;D but sell the mota :-X
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Yep. Just sold the wife into slavery to pay for New Horizons. There's going to some tricky times ahead when she finds out....
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LOL Terry, You too huh,, maybe she'll be "assigned" with my wife and any future kids that we may have. I'm in the US and since it isn't comming out here until G Knows When I'll have to pay the outrageous Euro rate (it's actually the same price in Euros as it would have been in dollors so we Americas pay 1.5X more for it! But I think it is worth it definatley, I rank Ship Sim up with the top name MMO's and they charge per month so no probs here paying a couple extra bucks. Just hope the wife likes her Anniversary Present of New Horizons on my computer ;D
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LOL Terry, You too huh,, maybe she'll be "assigned" with my wife and any future kids that we may have. I'm in the US and since it isn't comming out here until G Knows When I'll have to pay the outrageous Euro rate (it's actually the same price in Euros as it would have been in dollors so we Americas pay 1.5X more for it! But I think it is worth it definatley, I rank Ship Sim up with the top name MMO's and they charge per month so no probs here paying a couple extra bucks. Just hope the wife likes her Anniversary Present of New Horizons on my computer ;D
LOL LOL FOTFL.
Although we live in the UK, my wife is from Edison, New Jersey. The language around here when she finds out will make the Sopranos look tame. Actually, I think her cousin is called Vinny. Oh-oh!
You actually pay 2.08 times LESS than we do in the UK. :o Every time you pay a dollar, we pay a pound. "Rip-off Britain" as it's known locally! A continuing gripe over here. Just don't get me started on petrol (gas) prices!
PS What's a Euro? Is that that strange non-sterling money those Europeans use? Peculiar things happen over there....
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Some times using the magic word ( Please, Could, Can and Thank you) All steps work much better for you. ;)
But I don't think the it will be for free due to such a large number of new vessels and a new environment too.
Cheers
well. actually. the 8 ships include the old add on ships from SS06. the pushboat and the tug add up to make 8. adn there is the new enviorment. i also heared that who ever owns the first add on gets the new horizons at a cheaper price. this is all i know right now. don't ask me for more info. if i find out, i will tell you?
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I NEED THE NEW HORIZENS PATCH FOR FREE NOW ON THE 20th OF FEBRUARY 2008
I think you need to grow up and realise that these good people need to make a living, and probably have families to feed. Stop being so tight fisted and stump up the cash, and stop being ungrateful.
Personally I cant wait :D My pre-order (£14.99) has been down with play.com for a month now I think and im excited ;D ;D
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Hi Muttzcuttz.
That was an old post (two and a half weeks ago), and it's quite possible he was joking (being ironic). Perhaps not.
Still, I suppose this gets your number of posts up a bit more? (I remeber the candles on the cake when you made post 100!) ;)
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I need to look at the dates of posts dont I ::) lol
Mind you, im still excited about it ;D
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Just sold the wife into slavery to pay for New Horizons
I trust you checked whether you are going to be paid in cash or VSTEP vouchers.
My kids loved it when the camels arrived but the neighbours weren't amused.
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Hi Thassos.
Strictly cash (used 10p coins).
Went on the TV program "Wife Swap" with the first wife, once. Got a Ford Cortina and a goldfish in exchange.
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Just a relevant question (more on-topic this time..). Will the barges take damage if you hit them accidental? :)
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Could someone please reply to JHB's Question? I can't answer it because I have not got New Horizons, YET!
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Just a relevant question (more on-topic this time..). Will the barges take damage if you hit them accidental? :)
not as far as i know but like other ships handle with care
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I never thought this post would be so popular, none of my other posts have been this good. :) ;)
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Is the New Horizon is the SS08 add-on pack that we download from shipsim.com or is it something else?? ???
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It's the "soon to be released" next set of Add-ons. There are loads of threads about it.
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I never thought this post would be so popular, none of my other posts have been this good. :) ;)
You never can tell here, Graeme.. ;)
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There is no "ss08 addon" people. It is new-horizons. The addon pack you may have is the ss06 one that you then got the free upgrade for ss08. And no, if you already have the ss06 > 08 addon you can still get new horizons and get a new tug, pushboat, and enviorment! THEY ARE NOT THE SAME.
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And to add to that.. if you allready have the 6 ships from the old addon, upgraded for SS08, then you can get the additional addons that are present in NH as single downloadable addons aswell, in April, so that you dont have to pay twice for the 6 ships you allready have.
Regards,
Fred
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And to add to that.. if you allready have the 6 ships from the old addon, upgraded for SS08, then you can get the additional addons that are present in NH as single downloadable addons aswell, in April, so that you dont have to pay twice for the 6 ships you allready have.
Regards,
Fred
I can't wait that long. No patience. :p
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I can't wait that long. No patience. :p
Not much you can do about that! ;D
I guess you'll have to burst quietly or something. ;)
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Not much you can do about that! ;D
I guess you'll have to burst quietly or something. ;)
No i can buy all 6 ships and not the two new ones.
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No i can buy all 6 ships and not the two new ones.
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You allready have those, don't you? The 6 "old" addon vessels?
Fred
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You allready have those, don't you? The 6 "old" addon vessels?
Fred
Yes I do but doesn't the new horizons come out this week? And then you can get the seprate ships in april? Ill just buy all "8" ships this week and not wait.
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Yeah, you basically only need the 2 new ships + Cornwall...
But they are planned as seperate downloads for the SS06 addon customers to buy, planned for April, not right away.
It (NH) does come out in a few days, if all goes according to plan, but for you, being in the US, only as a download so far. Which you allready know though, no doubt. :)
Fred
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I've already decided that I will buy Hew Horizons, even though I have the Add-on pack.
reasons are:
(1) I understand that the ship dynamics have been improved in NH. So' if I only buy the 2 new-to-me ships, then I won't get the newly improved vessels will I?
(2) I think that the horns will work in the NH vessels? Same reason, then. I want all 8 to have horns.
(3) I think that Vstep, having put so much time and effort into this update and provided so many free updates, should get recompense from me (and everyone else, but I can only control me - somewhat)
(4) I want the new environment (Cornwall) to play in.
(5) I don't want to wait.
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Hello Terry,
You are right,
(1) but there will be later a patch to correct the dynamics
(2) and yes, the horns will work
(3) of course, you do as you like
(4) Padstow is indeed very nice, specially the small harbor
(5) and hmmm ;D that is the main reason probably ?
Regards,
Luc
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You know me too well....
But a new harbour does have a big attraction as well.
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You know me too well....
But a new harbour does have a big attraction as well.
Same with me. I think it will be nice to have a proper environment that doesn't have many 'concrete' walls for example. I can't wait to dive into Cornwall on the classic cruiser. Looking very much forward to creating some nice tourist missions too :)
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Yeah, you basically only need the 2 new ships + Cornwall...
I understand.
But they are planned as seperate downloads for the SS06 addon customers to buy, planned for April, not right away.
I don't want to wait... :p + If I buy NH then VSTEP gets more money right? :)
It (NH) does come out in a few days, if all goes according to plan, but for you, being in the US, only as a download so far. Which you allready know though, no doubt. :)
That should be no problem, i only had ss06 boxed (had a few problems with the store >=() but I trust VSTEP, (AND YOU!!!!) :) So download + money = yippe i get in a second once my mom's microsoft mail server does something intelligent.
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So download + money = yippe i get in a second once my mom's microsoft mail server does something intelligent.
Bill Gates server by any chance? ;D
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Bill Gates server by any chance? ;D
That would be the problem. It actually goes though a personal email server that then forwards it into microsoft, since my mom didn't want to use her microsoft email to buy games. :p
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Yup I have the add-on as well and will be buying the full New Horizons since it will mean having the ships , environment, and everything 1 month early (wise choice by VSTEP btw to maximize profits off this I was hoping they would do that) plus yes you are buying basically the same thing twice but if enough people do that then VSTEP will have enough funds to continue upgrading and expanding Ship Sim ;D
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i,m currently not sure if i will buy new horizons or not... i was very happy with shipssim at its day of realease, but now i,m also a little dissaponited that users have very little possibility in "playing" with settings like ships dynamics , wave height etc. the dynamics seemed to make a step back with 1.3, any chance to increase wave height was blocked by coding the files. i understand that shipsim in its current version is not designed to deal with waves in the winter atlantic, but i do not understand that the community is blocked to try improving it...
with no chance in finding new ways to improve the game and only waiting for a new addon , sitting in some few closed enviroments, i really do not know if i should invest further money in this sim or to quit it with some months of playing.
i wish vstep that this sim becomes a "hero" like e.g flight or trainsim, but i hope that they will "open" the game.
cheers!
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I cant wait for the New Horizons add on....! With much improvements Vstep made from the first release of ss06 to now, if they keep this pace up, I bet Vstep would be top 3 sim games in few years. :D
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Have to ask.... Of all the harbours and ports in the world why padstow. Beautifal place dont get me wrong i lived in Cornwall all my life... only just moved away but if you were looking at a picturesque small harbour somewhere like Newlyn would be a good one or even better Falmouth... home to a lot of RFA's with its dry docks.. ship building yards and the worlds 3rd deepest natural harbour yet the fantastic village of flushing across the the ability to handle largish ships like the POR in the middle of a fantastic harbour or you can take the new luxury speedboat up the river fal and see some absouloutly fantastic scenery. But padstow... well i aint gonna knock it till i try it but on paper it just doesn't look right!
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Hello Admiral, Sir:
That very question was raised before:
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,5904.0.html
No clear answer, cause the real reasons are with VSTEP, but a few nice speculations. ;D
Regards,
Fred
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This is just a wild guess, but perhaps VSTEP wanted to include a beautiful small-boat harbor that didn’t have a shipyard or dry-dock to spoil the ambiance. They do try for variety.
With the exception of Phi Phi—which was pretty much wiped out by the tsunami—the other harbors are large and industrialized.
Maybe they wanted a place where no one was likely to try to put a VLCC.
My choice for a small-boat harbor would have been Depoe Bay, Oregon.
Marty
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This is just a wild guess, but perhaps VSTEP wanted to include a beautiful small-boat harbor that didn’t have a shipyard or dry-dock to spoil the ambiance. They do try for variety.
With the exception of Phi Phi—which was pretty much wiped out by the tsunami—the other harbors are large and industrialized.
Maybe they wanted a place where no one was likely to try to put a VLCC.
My choice for a small-boat harbor would have been Depoe Bay, Oregon.
Marty
Marty I entirely agree with your comments about industrialization in harbours. Sometimes it's nice to be able to "Pootle" (Norfolk saying ;D) around the harbours in a smaller craft designed to 'cruise' along. I'm very much looking forward to the Padstow harbour. I welcome all different varieties of harbours too, as this will in turn attract a wider audience to ship sim :)
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On a random note guys, is NH now available to buy? I saw somewhere that it's out in Germany already, just wanted to know if it's true or not, and if it's now available in the UK?
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Hi Jayshum,
Nope you have to be patient a little bit longer, Germany just has the first release...
It should be available on the 22nd of March in/for the UK.
Regards,
Fred
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Yep... definatly agree... Got to say Padstow is a picturesque litlle village for tooteling around in your luxury cruiser. Can't wait to see it!
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Any idea if it will be available for download thru the Ship Sim website on the 22nd as well?? Don't wanna sit here all day hitting refresh waiting if it's gonna be only a box release.
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Hi Jayshum,
Nope you have to be patient a little bit longer, Germany just has the first release...
It should be available on the 22nd of March in/for the UK.
Regards,
Fred
Oh great, it's only a day then. Just been watching some fantastic videos on youtube from Bottman.
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Those Bugsier clips eh?
I love the Bugsier 2 ;D
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Wow released tomoz? Seems to have come round rather quick ;D
Better get that dusty bank card out again :D
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one day to released ;D i hawed preorder it so i will wheal not get it after Easter :(
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Tsk, tsk, TJK,
One would think with all your experience you could produce a bug-free sig. :)
Regards,
Marty
By the way, you owe me a new CRT. >:(
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Tsk, tsk, TJK,
One would think with all your experience you could produce a bug-free sig. :)
Regards,
Marty
By the way, you owe me a new CRT. >:(
Haha I looked at that and thought it was real for a min lol. Tis good ;D
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HI
I have a bug in my programe that's the ting(http://i31.tinypic.com/j13x1v.jpg)
(http://planetsmilies.net/not-tagged-smiley-10209.gif) (http://planetsmilies.net)
Tsk, tsk, TJK,
One would think with all your experience you could produce a bug-free sig. :)
Regards,
Marty
By the way, you owe me a new CRT. >:(
Haha I looked at that and thought it was real for a min lol. Tis good ;D
(http://i31.tinypic.com/j13x1v.jpg)
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Tsk, tsk, TJK,
One would think with all your experience you could produce a bug-free sig. :)
Regards,
Marty
By the way, you owe me a new CRT. >:(
Wath you mean ??? have you took it in pisses ;D(http://i31.tinypic.com/j13x1v.jpg)
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(http://i31.tinypic.com/j13x1v.jpg)
It was a kid thug it's vas real so hi tock the hole screen in small pieces to get read of it, it's weary real
it was a kid from us printed this gif. first time i see it i most take on the screen its seems very real
Little fun we most have
(http://planetsmilies.net/not-tagged-smiley-10209.gif) (http://planetsmilies.net)
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Those Bugsier clips eh?
I love the Bugsier 2 ;D
I can't wait man. If it's downloadable from here tomorrow, then I'm going to cancel my pre-order from my local shop (who get it on the 28th!). :)
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Look here...
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,6336.msg66612.html#msg66612
I'm working on some short videos to show, how the new sea going Azimuth-Tractor-Tug is working with precision steering.
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Wow I loved the fact that the Bugsier actually moved the vermaas! Nice videos Bottman ;D
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I know, it made me smile!
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Look here...
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,6336.msg66612.html#msg66612
I'm working on some short videos to show, how the new sea going Azimuth-Tractor-Tug is working with precision steering.
Hallo Bottman,
I noticed, that the steering of the Busier2 is different, than the one on “Ocean star†until now; 8)
with the 2006->2008 add-on patch.
Not easy to explain, but I’ll try:
When the green side (of the steering mech.) points to SB the Bugier2 will GO to SB and v.v.. :o
When the green side (of the steering mech.) points to SB the OCEAN STAR will GO to PORT and v.v.! :o
Is this corrected now with New Horizons so that the O.S. reacts the same way, or ? ???
Vr. Gr. / regards Erik :)
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Hi I watched the video, seems good except: I have a big doubt looking at the azimuth levers. When you turn the levers clockwise, the tug turns to starboard (engines ahead) ?! Is that right on the real bugsier?
Because I worked on several ships with azimuth thrusters and it was the contrary on all of them. On these ships when you turns the levers clockwise they turn to port.
Is it a small bug to correct or does the bugsier has converse controls?
I'm not already looking to bug, but I will be a little disturbed with these controls in the game because I was in use to manoeuvre with controls in the opposite sense.
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Wow, Eviss' post seems to have appeared at the exact moment I clicked on reply! ;)
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It is absolutely correct for both vessels, the "Bugsier 2" and the "Ocean Star", because the thrusters are at the opposite end of the vessels! On "B2" both azimuth thrusters are located forward, so if you turn them clockwise, the tug turns to starboard. At the "OS" it's exactly the opposite, because she has both thrusters under her stern. I have driven the "B2" by myself and our simulated tug works quite realistic...
Cheers
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Ocean Star is back to the WW1 warships. When the "old man" cried "Hard a'starb'd" He meant "I need this tub to turn to port rather smartly, old chap"
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Hi I watched the video, seems good except: I have a big doubt looking at the azimuth levers. When you turn the levers clockwise, the tug turns to starboard (engines ahead) ?! Is that right on the real bugsier?
Because I worked on several ships with azimuth thrusters and it was the contrary on all of them. On these ships when you turns the levers clockwise they turn to port.
Is it a small bug to correct or does the bugsier has converse controls?
I'm not already looking to bug, but I will be a little disturbed with these controls in the game because I was in use to manoeuvre with controls in the opposite sense.
Maybe the tugs you have been working on are not azimuth tractors, which means the prop units are located forward? It is quite easy to handle the "B2", because at the foward helm you have the thusters right beneath your feeds. That means, turning the joystick clockwise (to starboard) will turn the thruster clockwise too and the tug turns to starboard.
It's fine as it is...
Cheers
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I'm really happy to hear bugsier is ok.
I must confess I didn't think at all of the position of the azimuth units on forward ! And yes all the ships I have handled had azimuth on the stern. So thanks for the reply.
Eh eh, in the first moment I will have her on my hands, you shouldn't come too close to me, I think I will be a little confused with the control! ;)
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If it is so, try to navigate "B2" astern. That works quite good and with the same thrust directions as the "Ocean Star" in forward move... ;)
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bottman : do you have any videos with the pushboat on youtube?? :)
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Wait a few minutes...
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WOHO ;D ;D
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Look at the above mentioned link, there it is...
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thanks :) :) :)
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Hello Bottman and SS-friends,
I'm back on, after my little sleep. ::)
It is absolutely correct for both vessels, the "Bugsier 2" and the "Ocean Star", because the thrusters are at the opposite end of the vessels! On "B2" both azimuth thrusters are located forward, so if you turn them clockwise, the tug turns to starboard. At the "OS" it's exactly the opposite, because she has both thrusters under her stern. I have driven the "B2" by myself and our simulated tug works quite realistic...
Cheers
Your explanation make sence to me now. Thank you very much for that. :)
Never worked with azimuth thrusters, but I did worked SCHOTTEL props, so I understand the principal.
I really thought, that the OS steering wasn't quite right and would be updated later by patch.
I could work it remembering it as a "helm" on a little sailingboat and so doiing it worked fine for me.
(pushing the "helm" to SB it would Go to port and v.v.) ;D
vr. gr. / regards Erik
Right you are, Terry
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I could work it remembering it as a "helm" on a little sailingboat and so doiing it worked fine for me.
(pushing the "helm" to SB it would Go to port and v.v.) ;D
Hi Erik.
It's the same way with any outboard engine as well. Push to port to go to starboard.
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What time on the 22nd is New Horizons being released?
(I might stay up all night to get it...)
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i was woundering that too on my computer it says it is the 22
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Be patient guys, the website probably won't be updated til about 2PM GMT.
Just wait :)
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March the 22nd has 24 hours in it, they did not specify a certain time. ;)
And anyway, they said the UK release was on the 22nd, and it's still the 21st in the UK, for 20 minutes or so.
;D
Fred
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'Evening, Fred.
Nah. 16 minutes left. But who's counting? ;D
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'Evening, Fred.
Nah. 16 minutes left. But who's counting? ;D
15! Get it right!!
Can you tell I'm not excited? :D
EDIT: 700th Post!! ;D
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yeah 14 min ;D
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I can see this turning into a countdown now :D ;D
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Yes it is!! hehe... Never got an answer of it it's even gonna be available for download yet though. I guess we'll find out in 13 mins!!
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yes but will be there a great fireworks for the release around minight? suspens... ;)
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Yes it is!! hehe... Never got an answer of it it's even gonna be available for download yet though. I guess we'll find out in 13 mins!!
No, in 9 minutes!.....
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Yes it is!! hehe... Never got an answer of it it's even gonna be available for download yet though. I guess we'll find out in 13 mins!!
Yes there will be a download version. When the website is updated is yet to be known ;)
Fireworks? I sure hope so. I've not waited this long for no fireworks have I?? :( :D
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8 mins
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7 mins
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To be honest, I don't think there's anyone at the office looking at his watch and waiting to update it, but I would be pleasantly surprised if it popped up in 7 minutes... ;D
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I mean 6 minutes...
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8 mins
7 mins
lol, someone's watching the time. Doesn't that second hand tick sloooooowly?? :D
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5 min
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lol, someone's watching the time. Doesn't that second hand tick sloooooowly?? :D
lol 4 mins
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No, 3.6! ;)
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No, 3.6! ;)
Haha :D
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Could we hope an automatic update of the website set to midnight?
3 mins
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2 mins
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Could we hope an automatic update of the website set to midnight?
3 mins
No, not unless they wrote a .php SQL page that runs off a web sheduale ;)
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it feels like christmas is coming 1 min
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00:00 - No website update ;D :D
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let's wait few minutes more! :D
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I can't believe we clocked up a page waiting for the Add-on in 10 mins ;D
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Zero!
(http://217.45.209.217/bev-pics/firewk-red2.gif) (http://217.45.209.217/bev-pics/fw13.gif)
Well, that was as good as the "wall of fire" that we had in London at the stroke of midnight 1999/2000. On that ocassion, a hand-held sparkler would have had more impact.
I'll bet some of you went scooting off to the front page just now, eh? Let the folks at Vstep sleep in the beds. No doubt oine of them will wander in tomorrow and push the relevant buttons.
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ya im off to bed
signing out
Tom
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Yep I'm going to bed as well to be healthy to play later today. 'night everybody! :D
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Yep I'm going to bed as well to be healthy to play later today. 'night everybody! :D
hehe night mate :)
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Well answers the ? of it it was gonna be available online or not I guess. Hopefully it'll be up sometime soon. :'(
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Well answers the ? of it it was gonna be available online or not I guess. Hopefully it'll be up sometime soon. :'(
Give them chance mate, they're probably still sleeping.
Actually, saying that I should be asleep now too!! Night everyone!
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What time can we expect to see the add-on go live tomorrow then guys (GMT)?
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I'll bet some of you went scooting off to the front page just now, eh? Let the folks at Vstep sleep in the beds. No doubt oine of them will wander in tomorrow and push the relevant buttons.
Well... tell them to hurry up about it!! I got up early this morning to download it. :)
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I can't wait for it ;D
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Maybe VSTEP will release it at 23:59 this evening..
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Maybe they are waiting until tomorrow just to annoy us :)
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its funny to see how some guys here counted down the minutes last evening like in new years party to see nothing happens and finally go to bed...
c,mon do you really believe the vstep guys have nothing better to do than spend easter nights at work to serve you at 0:00 the fireworks? they have now breakfast with their families and when there is some time they will update the donwload links.
but then they will surely sit in front of them like some of you last night, watching if the download server burns or not :-)
but i would not be surprised when this happens after easter holidays since i would understand if they have better to do than go to work.
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I can't wait for it ;D
+1 :)
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Says on Lighthouse Interactive website (program publishers) that release date for UK and Scandinavia is now 4 April 2008!!!
http://www.lighthouse-interactive.com/Ship-Sim-2008-Add-On
??? >:( >:(
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Do you have to pay for it!?!
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Do you have to pay for it!?!
Umm... YES! Why would VSTEP give out software for free??
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I thought it was like a patch.... well... sod this waiting around then.. >:( :'(
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Guys, it's easter. I doubt that the nice people at VSTEP want to spend all weekend sat in the office making the game available for download........
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Guys, it's easter. I doubt that the nice people at VSTEP want to spend all weekend sat in the office making the game available for download........
Fair point...
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Guys, it's easter. I doubt that the nice people at VSTEP want to spend all weekend sat in the office making the game available for download........
I'm with you, I just wish some people took the time to stop and think that people like YOU are creating this game and have a life also ;)
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Yes but the date of Easter this year has not just been decided, why did they announce 22 Macrh when they new they couldn't make it??
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Yes but the date of Easter this year has not just been decided, why did they announce 22 Macrh when they new they couldn't make it??
They didn't!! VSTEP have NOT posted a release date. The mods told people that it MIGHT be released today, but no definate answer has been given :)
Please see my topic (http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,6398.0.html) ;)
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its funny to see how some guys here counted down the minutes last evening like in new years party to see nothing happens and finally go to bed...
c,mon do you really believe the vstep guys have nothing better to do than spend easter nights at work to serve you at 0:00 the fireworks? they have now breakfast with their families and when there is some time they will update the donwload links.
but then they will surely sit in front of them like some of you last night, watching if the download server burns or not :-)
but i would not be surprised when this happens after easter holidays since i would understand if they have better to do than go to work.
I case you and some of your follow-up posters didn't quite understand, I'd probably better let you know that most of us were joking! Hence the fireworks in my posts. ;D
Personally, I was answering people's technical queries until long after you were safely tucked up in bed. Just because it was midnight in the UK, not all of the world has their sun in the same position in the skies. In some places, tomorrow has only just arrived, today.
Remember: "sleep is for wimps".
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They didn't!! VSTEP have NOT posted a release date. The mods told people that it MIGHT be released today, but no definate answer has been given :)
Please see my topic (http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,6398.0.html) ;)
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,5356.0.html
they posted release date 22 March
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Yes but the date of Easter this year has not just been decided, why did they announce 22 Macrh when they new they couldn't make it??
How can they know that? Do they ask a astrologer? LOL! :D
They just set a deadline (probably estimated deadline) and work according to this one. But things may happen durring the work that delays the ETR - Estimated Time of Release.
So if they said: "Folks, we will release it on Monday" it may even not be released before Friday because of the delays. :)
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http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,5356.0.html
they posted release date 22 March
So they did ;D
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I really wish VSTEP would have come in at some point and _______________ (fill in blank with your favorite adjective) mentioned this .
Got this from UK Amazon:
"This item will be released on March 28, 2008. Pre-order now! Items for dispatch to UK will be sold by Amazon's Preferred Merchant."
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ship-Simulator-2008-Official-Add-On/dp/B0013DQATS/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1206194431&sr=8-2
(http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ship-Simulator-2008-Official-Add-On/dp/B0013DQATS/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1206194431&sr=8-2)
Would have been nice if VSTEP would put that little bit of info on their website before we all sat here refreshing our web pages hoping it would be released today. Oh well things happen.
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I case you and some of your follow-up posters didn't quite understand, I'd probably better let you know that most of us were joking! Hence the fireworks in my posts. ;D
Personally, I was answering people's technical queries until long after you were safely tucked up in bed. Just because it was midnight in the UK, not all of the world has their sun in the same position in the skies. In some places, tomorrow has only just arrived, today.
Remember: "sleep is for wimps".
terry, i quite do understand. yoke or not, i understand you,re hot and hungry for the release. it is not an offence, i am just laughing a little how people spend the night in front the website with the corcs ready for pop :-))))).
i personally believe nothing will happen all this day and nothing tomorrow, the download links will be published after easter. but it would be very nice when i,m wrong, since i will follow the impressions and comments on new horizon and when they are positive, i will not wait to buy.
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I'm quite certain that nothing will happen this (long) weekend.
I am certainly not "hot and hungry" for the release. I have too much to do, creating missions and advising people about geting their computer to run the existing version without the complications of another update.
But there is growing bitterness in some of the postings that Vstep have released the German version some days ago, but don't seem to care about releasing the English language version in line with the announcements they made and which have never been altered. Take a look at the forums and you'll see what I mean.
That is NOT the way to keep the paying customers happy, believe me. Perhaps Vstep need to rethink their marketing approach for the games/simulator market. It is very different to the "professional" field in which they operated previously. ???
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Just to add some perspective..
It's not just VSTEP that is concerned with the releases here. Lighthouse and Astragon take care of publishing, so I bet they've got a say too.. and I bet their decisions also weigh heavily on things. :)
Astragon seems to have the first rights.. and no, I don't know why. :)
Fred
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Well let's all hope the Add-on is released soon. I'm aware of the process of marketing and distrubting copies of the games (to a certain extent, I'm no expert by far) and know that it's not easy to keep everything running smoothly. However, I do agree with Terry's comments about VSTEPS (and other associates) marketing strategies and think that they should release the add-on at the same time. It makes sense as they can then start to promot their software in one big go and get EVERYONE interested regardless of their location in the world.
I'm just sitting here patiently waiting for the add-on, I'm not desperatly in need of it, although when it comes I shall see what happens :)
EDIT: Typo
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Don't get me wrong, please. I will buy NH when it comes out. I really enjoy Ship Simulator. I am looking forward to some new ships to play with.
But after people got their hopes up so much, there are some who are feeling somewhat let down. It's a bit like expecting to wake up to Christmas, only to find that you got the dates wrong.
Oh well, onwards and upwards, eh? ;)
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Someone is going around saying that New Horizons started to be produced at the factory 2 days ago.......
Not that i believe them, i just want the person to know that they are more than likely worng. In fact certainly wrong.
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Someone is going around saying that New Horizons started to be produced at the factory 2 days ago.......
Not that i believe them, i just want the person to know that they are more than likely worng. In fact certainly wrong.
That's a load of nonsense. Even I know it can take weeks to produce thousands of copies and distribute them all over the world!
This person must be put striaght and stop spreading non-existant rumours.
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I heard that Elvis is signing the first 50 copies!
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Is he in the building then?
??? ???
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No he's left the building, along with Frasier.
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Yes he's the only one working over Easter, He needs the overtime I think.
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No he's left the building, along with Frasier.
Haha that made me laugh! :D He left on a Red Jet 4 ;D
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And as he left on the Red Jet he was singing I can't help believing!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApBJMrYcTmM
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god whens it gonna be released, ive had people say it was the 20th, today (22nd) the 28th, if there are so many release dates for this month the games must be done so why not just say a release date
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Check the publishers website, they are bound to know the real one...
There's never been a definate one posted here, only a planned one. If people draw their conlcusions then it's their own fault for being dissapointed I guess.. :P
But Lighthouse, being the one publishing it, should know for sure... and their site says April 4th.. so...
That's all I can say.
Regards,
Fred
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So, sometime before next Christmas seems possible then? ;)
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Gah, lucky I didn't cancel my pre-order!
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But there is growing bitterness in some of the postings that Vstep have released the German version some days ago, but don't seem to care about releasing the English language version in line with the announcements they made and which have never been altered. Take a look at the forums and you'll see what I mean.
That is NOT the way to keep the paying customers happy, believe me. Perhaps Vstep need to rethink their marketing approach for the games/simulator market.
terry, you are 100% right with this statement. i also wrote some post regarding this in the last days. i hope that NH will be a good piece of work, sice they are indeed warning signals from the german forum. i will definitly wait comments from here until i will make my decision.
and hopefully they will indeed rethink some issues.
best regards and happy easter, lets enjoy the holidays, with or without NH :-)
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oke its saturday nobody is working today an tomorow soo how can they update this site I think we must wait until its theusday because monday its a sunday .
grtz: devin
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Well I for one have been getting my dates from websites that are going to be selling it such as Amazon. Which now says the 28th,, of course between now and then that can change again. Just would be nice to get a definite answer from someone! But since I apparently have time now wish me luck cause I'm about to do a complete reload back to Windows XP... finally got Vista working fine but it should be running soooo much better. A frame rate of 16 in free mode just plain isn't good enough!
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Thanks for all these replies, this post has increased by three pages in the space of a day. I've only logged on to the site now, is it true that New Horizons hasn't been released yet? >:(
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Thanks for all these replies, this post has increased by three pages in the space of a day. I've only logged on to the site now, is it true that New Horizons hasn't been released yet? >:(
Yes that is true. New Horizons will be released between now and next summer ;)
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Yes that is true. New Horizons will be released between now and next summer ;)
My money is on it being released before next Christmas, but maybe I'm just more optimistic than you!
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ya i would really like this to come out in canada for my friend hes dieing to get it since he saw the multiplayer server lol ;D ;D ;D ;D im mad because im not allowed to buy it >:( >:( >:(
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not all of the world has their sun in the same position in the skies
Why not? You English (I'm Welsh) expect the world to speak our language - why can't we expect them to use our time????? ;D
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yes annoyingly
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Of course, it's only natural that we should be so avidly awaiting the add-on when we have all used every ship in every environment running every mission that we have already :) ;) ::)
I hope they deliver soon or there won't be room on the forum for anything else - like there's no room in my mailbox after all the notifications for this thread (Joking - honest)
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Why not? You English (I'm Welsh) expect the world to speak our language - why can't we expect them to use our time????? ;D
Why do you think I'm English?
My wife is a New Yorker. She speaks fluent Gaelic, including 12 variants of Welsh, 10 Irish, Manx & Cornish, plus Bretton. Also a range of Ancient Scandanavian languages. I can speak some of those languages to her, and we do at home, sometimes.
My Aunt is a native Welsh speaker (North Wales). My Great-Grandad spoke only Irish Gaelic. I learnt from both of them. Another aunt is of Dutch South African (Voortrekker) background. She taught me some Dutch when I was a kid, although as Mad Fred will tell you, I've forgotten most of it.
My son & daughter have grandparents, uncles, aunts & cousins in Vancouver. I have a mother-in-law, two sisters-in-law, brother-in-law, nieces & nephews in Florida as well as a nephew and brother-in-law in New Jersey.
Just because some of you never summoned up the courage to leave the valleys after you ran away screaming from the Romans.... Heh heh! ;D ;D ;D ;D
OK, I am English. Just messing with you. But the above is correct. Noe noblis Domine!
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i assumed you were english, i looked at the handy union jack :D. and anyway, VSTEP are giving the chance to win a copy of new horizons, if they are releasing copies as prizes surely they have a release date
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I will admit, I'm a twinge bit miffed at the fact that the game has been released a lot earlier in one country, whilst the rest have to sit by and watch videos on youtube. Brings back the same frustration I had whilst watching my American friends play Halo 2, and more lately Halo 3 on their release. Only in those cases, it was 2 days/1 day respectively, not a week (or possibly 2!). After watching the Bugsier 2 tow the Vermaas in that one video, the Sherpa doesn't seem as fun anymore!
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Versions to different countries are more to do with translations and we wouldn't want inaccurate text just to have the addon a bit earlier would we?
Terry - I did actually run away screaming to the English Lake District - boating is easier on lakes - when you return to the place of launch the water is still in the same place as you left it.
I must admit that I don't actually speak Welsh (I'm from Cardiff) although I learnt it in school. I do better at Greek as it's more useful on holiday.
I wasn't having a dig - as you said some while ago, the forum needs fun.
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Deep disappointment for me. I waited for all day yesterday :( New Horizons has not been released yet
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Versions to different countries are more to do with translations and we wouldn't want inaccurate text just to have the addon a bit earlier would we?
Terry - I did actually run away screaming to the English Lake District - boating is easier on lakes - when you return to the place of launch the water is still in the same place as you left it.
I must admit that I don't actually speak Welsh (I'm from Cardiff) although I learnt it in school. I do better at Greek as it's more useful on holiday.
I wasn't having a dig - as you said some while ago, the forum needs fun.
Hi mate. (or Bosun or Cap'n).
Cardiff? That's Bristol really. It's just a way of getting money from the locals as they to go to and from work. You put the houses on one side and the work on the other and charge a fortune to cross over the bridge. Heh.
Although "they" merrily waste taxpayer's money, I'll bet that not one person needs every single sign to have Welsh and English translations. I think that the chances of finding a Welsh-only speaker are somewhat less than zilch.
I know you weren't having a dig. I was just winding you up. I can spot a fellow joker a mile away. I wanted to see how full we could get this thread with people thinking I'd just insulted the Welsh and/or Romans. ;D ;D ;D
Regarding inaccurate text, do you mean like "percipitation" at the start of every mission? That one drives me up the wall. I just want to scream "it's precipitation, it's precipitation!" ???
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Well I pre-ordered New Horizons from Amazon and acording to a recent e-mail I got from them it's due to be released on the 3rd of April or there abouts.
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Well I pre-ordered New Horizons from Amazon and acording to a recent e-mail I got from them it's due to be released on the 3rd of April or there abouts.
4th is the date I am hearing at the moment. But, it's not a promise, just a schedule. (like 22nd March was)
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Where's this guys? I just checked Amazon, Play, and Game. All of them as of 2 minutes ago are listing it as releasing on the 28th.
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Terry - it's true what you say about the bridge tolls - they are horrendous. I'm pleased to say that when I cross it (I have a son in Hampshire and brothers in Cardiff so usually make it a triangular trip) I don't pay, as I have a disabled badge.
Yep Cardiff is the English part of Wales and if I was holidaying in North Wales when living in Cardiff I always said I was from "down south" which was true in a way but they assumed I meant southern England - i was treated better that way!
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Have to say though... i appriceate the effort and the huge amount of work in releasing an add-on and that occasionally you missjudge with the release date and do not meet te deadline, but come on, by a month!!!! If Vstep are going to try and compete with the giants of microsoft and so on, or with any company for that matter they really need to get there act together. Furthermore everbodys sitting here guessing about the release date... shouln't somebody post a bullitin in the forum or on the website to say its delayed, the reason for it and the expected release date or are they gonna just sit there and let paying customers give them the benefit of doubt and "wait and see what happens". I mean we dont sit here having this convosation about an XBOX or PS3 game do we!!!
Rgds
Tom
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Well, I suppose Microsoft were about a year late with Vista. Doesn't that sort of disrupt your line of reasoning?
Sorry... :'(
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Very Good point!!!! i just feel kinda sorry for the guys that wait up all night to find that its going to be up to a month late.... i mean vstep didn't announce an official release date just an expected one and they didn't make it. Fair enough but i really think that they should set a date and stick by it... and that date should be the same worldwide. Microsft got vista wrong big time as you say but they handled the delays a bit better that Vstep are at the moment!
Rgds
Tom
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VSTEP never promised a firm release date. They attempt to make each release as bug-free as possible. Testing is a continuous process and, if problems are found, they may delay releasing the downloadable version to fix them. I wouldn’t have it any other way.
As far as the boxed versions are concerned, the decision on when to release is up to the publishers—Lighthouse and Astragon—not VSTEP. Both companies approved the gold masters back around the first week in March. They estimated the DVDs would be in stores in 3 – 4 weeks. There was no reason why both publishers had to release on the same date.
Things happen when they happen.
Marty
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i was gonna pre order it on GAME website, but im on holiday this month and i dont know if it'll be availible when im on holiday, and if it is there will probably be little stock when i get back :l. organise yourselves VSTEP
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What does your holiday have to do with VSTEP's orginisation?
And Lighthouse Interactive does the publishing, not VSTEP. ;)
You just presume things and blame the developers for being disorganised....that seems a bit odd to me.
If you really cannot wait, then I suggest you don't go on holiday. There will be plenty of copies available. And if that's not the case then the publisher is most likely to blame, not VSTEP.
Isn't there anyone that can collect the pre-ordered game for you when it arrives when you're on holiday?
I do that all the time if I know I will not be home when a package arrives.. I just give them an alternative adress to go to. :P
Fred
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Fred
Do you not think that in view of the number of disappointed potential customers and the considerable speculation about a realise date, that VStep and/or Lighthouse Interactive should issue a statement on Tuesday to say when the add=on will actually be realised. The press realise last week on 19 march from VStep that Ship Simulator 2008 Add-on New Horizons has gone gold! did nothing to clarify the situation!!
Rgds
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If any potential customers are disappointed, it’s though their own baseless expectations. Nothing was promised.
It is to avoid disappointing that VSTEP refrains from announcing a specific date that they may not be able to meet.
VSTEP are not about to put themselves in the position of parents constantly responding to the kiddies in the back seat who keep crying “Are we there yet?â€
Marty
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Hi Fred.
Further to MH1's suggestion, as you are obviously the man in charge of running Vstep, how come you don't sort everything out? Oh yes, and you must guarantee world peace and bring an immediate end to poverty.
C'mon! We know you can do it!
;D ;D ;D
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Well, I have seen similar things with many many titles in the gaming genre.
This situation is actually pretty common. And the way that official announcements get hyped to the point where people assume that a scheduled date is the absolute, definate release date is bound to end up in dissapointment.
But this dissapointment is not something that VSTEP has caused. The potential customers have done this to themselves by taking speculations and estimates for facts. They never gave a definate date. Lighthouse has a date on their website, and that should suffice as they are the publishers.
And we're also dealing with several different releases and two publishers that act independantly.
The Addon will be here when it's here, it's as simple as that...
It's always the same with these things..
If the planned date isn't reached, people moan and complain and demand answers. But if they had released it a week earlier and left in some bugs that could have been fixed, then people totally forget about the date and moan and complain about the bugs instead and say that "they should have taken longer, we could have waited a bit more for the bugs to be ironed out"
One way or the other, there's just no right way...
I've waited for so many titles or addons or patches over the years, and usually they run late.. It's nothing new. And if there is a definate statement to make, VSTEP will make it, I suspect.
Regards,
Fred
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Further to MH1's suggestion, as you are obviously the man in charge of running Vstep, how come you don't sort everything out? Oh yes, and you must guarantee world peace and bring an immediate end to poverty.
;D
I cannot help with the VSTEP related stuff, I'm just a keen volunteer taking the heat on the frontlines.. but world peace and an end to poverty are very high on my list indeed... :P
Fred
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I wasn't suggesting that Fred could sort it out, or that he ran VStep, simply suggesting that a respected global moderator of the Forum could pass on the general disappointment shown on the forum about the conflicting news about the release date!!
::) ::)
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And just to point out... i'm not moaning... or trying to start a world war just pointing out that whoever, Vstep, Lighthouse, need to try to set a date, stick by it and in the case of a delay inform people about it, as well as be consistant accross the board!!!
:D :D :D
Either way... i know its coming at some point and it looks like it'll be worth the wait!
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It's always the same with these things..
If the planned date isn't reached, people moan and complain and demand answers. But if they had released it a week earlier and left in some bugs that could have been fixed, then people totally forget about the date and moan and complain about the bugs instead and say that "they should have taken longer, we could have waited a bit more for the bugs to be ironed out"
Regards,
Fred
nice words fred, but you forget one very important issue. these people PAY for this product, and vstep lives from this payment.
i,m personally not that eager for NH, but i understand users who are.
and i would like to see if vstep is that relaxed like they now are when they publish it here and nobody hits the download button...
one other ponit is that there will be no more or less bugs if they had published it two days ago or in two weeks.
like the developer is minor interested if there are bugs or not, if the single user is happy or not -the single user is minor interested who is the publisher and what reasons are for a delay, he wants a good product in time for HIS money...
think a minute about it...
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i think right now i am more frustrated than i would be if vstep would set an estimated release date a long long time from now just so i know what is going on and i dont have to go to my computer excited and leave it disapointed. dont get me wrong i think this game is awsome i just want a little info so i know what is happening
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and i would like to see if vstep is that relaxed like they now are when they publish it here and nobody hits the download button...
You must not have been reading the plethora of posts.
Or is it your belief that, after crying so loudly over a delay, when the download is available they will say “I really don’t want it�
Why not threaten to hold your breath until you turn blue? That would really frighten VSTEP.
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nice words fred, but you forget one very important issue. these people PAY for this product, and vstep lives from this payment.
So you payed for it in advance? :P ;D
You can buy it when it is done.. and untill then.. there is no product to pay for..
And the ownership of the main game does not make anyone here a special case with special rights to extra attention from the developers. We should be glad that there's such a nice forum here where there's direct contact with the developers at all so often, and even more, indirectly via the staff... A lot of game developers tell you nothing at all! There you only get a placeholder website with a rough date saying "coming next summer!" or something. (Happens a whole lot!) And even then they don't manage to get it out before the Autumn kicks in. I have experienced this myself with quite a few titles. ;D
As an analogy..I got a new TV last year... it was supposed to be delivered to my house in one specific week, I even took the day off when they phoned me and told me "we'll definatly be there on wednesday", but they did not come untill a week after that due to "circumstances".. but I HAD allready payed for it.. hey.. these things happen.. everywhere.
And in the gaming industry, it is almost impossible to set a date while you are still developing something and then stick to it. And again, there was never a definate date stated or any guarantees made, so who's letting you down? no one.. no one said "it will be there, for sure!". We hoped so.. they planned too.. we speculated.. but that's about it!
So everyone that is dissapointed, was really just not reading things clearly. Or do not have any knowledge perhaps on how these things go. As I said, I have seen so many things just like it over the years that I can say it is very common.
And people still get a developer and a publisher mixed up.. But I don't feel like getting into that again honestly.
As for the little info you seek, tman,... check the publisher's site.. that's as good a source as any. And as it says April 4th, I would suspect, that it could be a reasonable speculation, if we suggest that it might be a good guess to assume that this would be the release date. ;D
Again.. there is no delay as far as I see it, as there never was a bottom line guarantee about a date from VSTEP! That's how I understood the announcements and that's what we always spoke about on the forum.. And if we all got carried away and speculated/hoped too much, and if this has caused frustration and dissapointment then we have no one but ourselves to thank for that, really.
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I for one am eagerly awaiting the ability to buy New Horizons,, looking at this post:
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,5985.0.html
tells me that New Horizons has been finished and it's not VSTEP's fault that it keeps getting delayed. According to that announcement the Dutch version at least was finished before March 4th since it was demonstrated during a public boating expo. That tells me at least that VSTEP handed it over to the publishers and distributors to get it out to the stores. Yes it would have been much more professional for one of them to do a formal public announcement saying why it's being delayed before people had already pre-ordered it and expected it to be available on a certain day. Much less when that day moved twice! Who knows maybe there was some accident while they were making the cd's or something. Since the companies in question have chosen to not tell anyone then we'll probably never know. I'm sure VSTEP doesn't want to make whoever is responsible for the delay look bad by making the announcement themselves and that's what comes with being a smaller developer without your own publishing company. New Horizons will come out eventually at least we know it's actually finished and won't have another year to wait or anything like that. Those of us in the states may have to wait a very long time to get it since there is no mention of when it will be available for download or available in the States. I'm hoping they are only waiting for the Europe release before making it digitally available instead of waiting for months after that but we'll just have to wait and see. :'(
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I think some of us are forgetting though that New Horizons went 'Gold' on the 19th of March. That means that all that's left to do is to send it to certification, and get it burned to disc (well, many discs lol). So with that in mind, any disappointment should be aimed at the publisher (Lighthouse). This whole situation is very confusing though, as New Horizons is now available in Germany. So apart from the whole 'how come it's not in the UK then?', how is it on sale so quickly after going gold?
Just in case no one knows what 'going gold' means, it means that Vstep have completely finished the game (or add-on in this case), and they've sent it off to be age-rated, and to be printed/burned to disc.
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When is it out
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When is it out
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Maybe on March 28th or April 4th... or later, depending on the good willing of the publishers and other parameters I can't catch. ;D
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This whole situation is very confusing though, as New Horizons is now available in Germany. So apart from the whole 'how come it's not in the UK then?', how is it on sale so quickly after going gold?
The Germans are quicker. That’s the obvious answer. They were probably prepared to go as soon as they got the GM with printing and fab capacity, artwork, boxes, and logistics. They may have approved their GM ahead of Lighthouse.
There is another consideration concerning the release of the download: How would Lighthouse feel after spending a lot of money to produce and ship the DVDs with the hope of sales, if impatient prospective customers could save a week or two by downloading. VSTEP must be careful not to undercut its customers—the publishers.
Marty
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I fail to see how anyone with a pre-order logged (and I am one of them) can possibly be in a position where there is no copy for him/her. If it's pre-ordered it's reserved - mine is marked post free so I assume it will be delivered. If your preorder involves a shop collection then surely it will be "put by" for you.
This thread has turned up all the traits of human behaviour (OK I accept that nobody has been murdered yet as far as I know) and one of the things it shows most clearly is the fact that we live in an I WANT, I WANT, I WANT society.
I'll try my best not to lengthen the thread any more - maybe best to stop "notification of post" I suppose
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So you payed for it in advance? :P ;D
You can buy it when it is done.. and untill then.. there is no product to pay for..
i did not wrote people paid already for it.
i respect you are a allegiant defender of vstep whatever happens, but your argue with the delay due to development is of course not true. when this would be the case it would mean that the version to be released here is another one than the version now avialable in germany.
for me it would be easily possible to get the german one from gamesload since i,m german, but i did downloaded it there because on the one hand i have the english version of shipsim from here and on the other hand i have to wait for comments on the product if it is worth the payment, especially when i have read in the german forum some serious bugs in the newe features.
becuase of that i have to wait like some non german users.
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Thassos, I'm not sure who your post was aimed at, but I found your use of that comment a bit unnecessary for a ship-sim forum! I fully understand what you're going on about (Price of everything, Value of nothing applies to some degree as well), but I can't be angry at some young teenagers voicing their disappointment at their favourite game's DLC not coming out on time. I've read the whole thread, and haven't seen anyone moaning about not being able to get a copy when it releases. I have however seen people who are a bit disappointed, and are (if you'll excuse the pun!), letting off steam! If you find that annoys you, then I definitely would turn off post-notification.
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i did not wrote people paid already for it.
It certainly looked like it.
i respect you are a allegiant defender of vstep whatever happens, but your argue with the delay due to development is of course not true. when this would be the case it would mean that the version to be released here is another one than the version now avialable in germany.
I think that your behaviour towards Fred is absolutely despicable. There isn't an icon for the feeling I have about this, but have these: ??? :o ::)
There is no "of course" about it. If you keep your fingers off that keyboard for a while and think about it, of course the German and English versions have separate development times and separate development paths. The words are different for one thing!
The publication of the NH is handled by different publishers in Germany and in English Language countries. Had you actually read and understood the things that people like mvsmith have said, above, you might have understood that.
And after all your attacks on Fred, who generously donates his time for free for the good of this forum, you then have the gall to say that you might not buy it anyway, because you've heard of some bugs! ??? ??? :'(
I suggest that you form a decent appology for Mad Fred and post that after you've phrased it properly. Attacks like yours will surely do nothing to encourage him to continue giving the free support that he does.
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I will say, as a veteran of many forums, this is probably the nicest community I've yet seen.
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I've just read most of this thread and its pretty pathetic to be honest.
STOP WHINGING!!!!
I've placed my pre-order, and im looking forward to it. Id rather it be released when its ready rather than rushed out to meet a deadline.
And the mods on this forum are great and im sure they have better things to do on here than defend VSTEP all the time. :)
Go and play multiplayer ship shim, go and have fun, and be excited and look forward to the new release coming out. Isnt that what its all about anyway... having fun?
Geez ::)
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I will say, as a veteran of many forums, this is probably the nicest community I've yet seen.
Usually it is. But a few people seem to have gone off the deep end, expecting a release to have happened on a date that wasn't promised. Because it's a holiday weekend, everything goes potty.
However, I do know that some free goodies are on the way, to make things sweet for everyone. Hopefully those will change the tone of this thread. ;D
I still think Fred is owed a massive appology, though. :'(
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terry, my post as well my others were not offesive againt anybody. i cannot say how you understand that, i can only say how i meant it.
i personally think that your reply is a little offensive against me , but of course i can here be the same wrong like you in judging my posts.
beyond this i fully agree to jayshum that this here is a nice community and so i,m not interested in argue this here.
yes i have read the thread here and say it again and again: i,m not dissapointed for the release delay and it not important for me if NH will be released here tody, tomorrow or next month.
i just wanted to point out that on the one hand its expected that users stay qiet and wait without any information, on the other hand its expected that when the download link is here, all shall be happy and the server shall burn... some reliable information would be just nice when they want us all to buy it.
i also said it before and say it again: when NH seems to be good i will also buy it and it will be a pleasure to pay for this good work.
and one more time one more thing: i do not offence you, fred or anybody else! ;)
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Nice try, but YOU accused Fred of not speaking the truth. Don't try to put that back onto me. I find that to be ridiculous.
YOU should give Fred a proper appology. And YOU should do it now, instead of acting hurt.
If you find my saying that to be offensive, well perhaps you need to ajust your personality.
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Nice try, but YOU accused Fred of not speaking the truth. Don't try to put that back onto me. I find that to be ridiculous.
YOU should give Fred a proper appology. And YOU should do it now, instead of acting hurt.
If you find my saying that to be offensive, well perhaps you need to ajust your personality.
i said this:
but your argue with the delay due to development is of course not true. when this would be the case it would mean that the version to be released here is another one than the version now avialable in germany.
when i,m wrong this means that the german gamesload version of NH is not the current one since the development continues and thats the reason for the delay, right?
i also said this :
and one more time one more thing: i do not offence you, fred or anybody else! ;)
so cool down and do not try to create an agressive athmosphere here with terms to me like "nice try" , "adjust your personality", "i find that ridicolous" ans much more in your last posts.
i am polite to you , try to be the same ;)
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Just for the record guys, the version the Germans have IS the version we'll get. The game was announced to have gone Gold on March 19th. That means it's finished, done. Why the rest of us are having to wait for it is a mystery, but nothing to do with Vstep (in my opinion). This is, like one of the guys on here a couple of days ago said, infact something to do with the publishers. So if you feel like venting frustration at anyone (I personally wouldn't, as it's not going to help you get it sooner!), then it's Lighthouse Interactive.
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So that's what Gold means ;D
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Nice try, but YOU accused Fred of not speaking the truth. Don't try to put that back onto me. I find that to be ridiculous.
YOU should give Fred a proper appology. And YOU should do it now, instead of acting hurt.
If you find my saying that to be offensive, well perhaps you need to ajust your personality.
Hard commands pal! I dislike bold letters by the way so you are herby warned. One more bold letter from you and I will go rambo...
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What's it go to do with you, Lambo? I wasn't talking to you. Personally, I don't care if you love or hate bold letters. It's of no interest whatsoever. ;D
I was talking to ACR, who was quick enough to accuse Fred of not telling the truth but seems unable to say sorry to him about it.
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What's with all the bad comments about VSTEP??
For god sake guys grow up and READ POSTS PROPERLY!!!!!
The same situation happens again and again simply because people can not be bothered to read the information presented to them clearly!!
Congrats to the mods and stuff though, for putting up with these people :)
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Congrats to the mods and stuff though, for putting up with these people :)
Agreed. When people bad-mouth them, it makes me very angry.
I don't see any useful input from ACR anywhere, for example.
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What's it go to do with you, Lambo? I wasn't talking to you. Personally, I don't care if you love or hate bold letters. It's of no interest whatsoever. ;D
I was talking to ACR, who was quick enough to accuse Fred of not telling the truth but seems unable to say sorry to him about it.
Allright !!!! :D :D :D
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What's with all the bad comments about VSTEP??
For god sake guys grow up and READ POSTS PROPERLY!!!!!
The same situation happens again and again simply because people can not be bothered to read the information presented to them clearly!!
Congrats to the mods and stuff though, for putting up with these people :)
Do you always need to be so serious all the time...? Do you have any whatsoever feeling when it comes to irony, sarcasm and that sort of stuff or do you try to play a politician in this topic huh? Yeah the same situation happens again thanks to you pal! Too many serious people here around. Joking may end up in warfare... :P
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Do you always need to be so serious all the time...? Do you have any whatsoever feeling when it comes to irony, sarcasm and that sort of stuff or do you try to play a politician in this topic huh? Yeah the same situation happens again thanks to you pal! Too many serious people here around. Joking may end up in warfare... :P
What's your problem mate?? Don't have a go at me because you didn't read my post properly! I was referring to other posts in this topic not yours!
Please don't blame things on me when I've done nothing wrong!!
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Haha! He just took a bite of the hook :D
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Haha! He just took a bite of the hook :D
**Gives up**
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Just for the record guys, the version the Germans have IS the version we'll get. The game was announced to have gone Gold on March 19th. That means it's finished, done. Why the rest of us are having to wait for it is a mystery, but nothing to do with Vstep (in my opinion). This is, like one of the guys on here a couple of days ago said, infact something to do with the publishers. So if you feel like venting frustration at anyone (I personally wouldn't, as it's not going to help you get it sooner!), then it's Lighthouse Interactive.
What happens when they reach Brose or Silver stage then? ;D
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I think this topic now is more about persons being rude to each other then "New Horizons" as the title says.
Couldn't a lot of this been discussed in PMs instead?
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I think this topic now is more about persons being rude to each other then "New Horizons" as the title says.
Couldn't a lot of this been discussed in PMs instead?
I couldn't agree more! :)
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Yeah, me to.
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Allright !!!! :D :D :D
I don't think that everyone got the joke! Oh well, you and I had a laugh, at least. ;)
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So.... getting back to the subject... if thats alright with everyone!!!
;D ;D
Ummm so as i understand it Vstep have already finished the product and its gone off to the publishers. Get that bit but i still don't understand how Germany got it first??? Do Vstep use different Publishers or is it all Lighthouse and there waiting on distribution and ratings???
Rgds
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Somewhere above, its been pointed that the German publishers are different. Perhaps it's a smaller operation and Lighthouse have more logistics to cope with. Or perhaps the German language version just came off the production line first. Or perhaps they made a mistake and released it early.
Who knows? It makes no difference. You can get it in German, but not in English. No amount of smiling, scowling, cheering, booing, hoping, praying, cussing or swearing is going to make any difference. :(
C'est la vie! ;)
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It'll actually be none of the above Terry. I'm pretty sure (99%) that it will be because the German publisher had a deal with Vstep so as to have first dibs. Why this is, I've no idea, but you've already summed up how I'd end this post (scowling, booing not making a difference etc).
As a keen follower of how game studios work though, I'd love to know the actual reason (but I'm pretty sure I'm bang on to be honest). :)
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So.... getting back to the subject... if thats alright with everyone!!!
;D ;D
Ummm so as i understand it Vstep have already finished the product and its gone off to the publishers. Get that bit but i still don't understand how Germany got it first??? Do Vstep use different Publishers or is it all Lighthouse and there waiting on distribution and ratings???
Rgds
As pointed out pages ago, there are two publishers: Lighthouse and the German publisher Astragon.
Marty
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i have two questions regarding it.
first, when i have the english download version from here can i install the german NH from gamesload over it with no problems or will it mess up my whole installation?
second, for those who underdstand german and read in the topics there they will found there is more dissaponitment than enjoyment, simulatany the addon got at gamesload only two of five stars in the ranking and is not even in the top 50 at the downloads being a new release... seriously, whats going on with it???
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Hi ACR,
to be honest, there is not so much disapointment within the German forum. There are some comments according to the particles around bow splashes and clouds and that the Add-On don't fix some earlier mentioned bugs. But all in all the users are quite happy with the new vessels and the little environment. Beside that, there are not so much users with the Add-On in Germany until now. Guess we can read posts from maybe 10 different users...
Cheers
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Yes, please bear in mind that New Horizons is not a bug fix. There is another patch in progress, I believe. I think that may be the cause of some of the confusion. People read information about one set of software and link it to the other.
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Yes, please bear in mind that New Horizons is not a bug fix. There is another patch in progress, I believe. I think that may be the cause of some of the confusion. People read information about one set of software and link it to the other.
Yeah we are used to that bugs get fixed afterwards. I have already observed on the German forum (how stupid I am... :P) that the engine room of the push boat is "airborn" and is hovering right above the wheelhouse.. like some NATO aircraft...
Well at least VSTEP, ....consider to fix this before New Horizon goes into "diamant" and critical Scandinavians like me (not much known by English mens all trough they saved us from the war) gets their dirty hands on this package... I consider myself like strictly, honest and polite when I write this (just like English men do when they watch a soccer game) to express my wisdom in this topic...*cough* :P
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As I haven't seen the push boat, I can't imagine what the engine room must look like. Can you post a picture?
And I do know Scandanavians well. Like most English, I am half Anglo (the Scandinavian side) and half Saxon (the German side). Anglo, Anglish, English.... Also, I know Norway very well. Been to Oslo dozens of tines and travelled up to the Arctic a lot. Lovely county, nice people. Cold & dark in the winter. Just like home. :)
I hate football, though. Sorry.
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Terry, anyway you can try yourself now, it is on the shipsim web site for download now at erou 21.99!!
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YES! It is here at last! ;D ;D ;D :D :P
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any one got some pics or videos of the New Horizons? i can't get it yet :'( i want to see some pics and a video or two.
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I'm downloading it right now,I can post some pictures later ;)
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thanks. can you get some of the tug, push boat, ocean star, and speed yacht?
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Here are some...
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,6260.msg66612/topicseen.html#msg66612
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Pictures ;)
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nice. thanks for uploading.
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Bugsier 2
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Going to get NH later, but could you tell me, is Bugiser easy to handle? :)
A nd do the horns work now? :P
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they should :P
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It takes some time getting used to the Bugsier 2 steering,I don't know about the horn since it seems to be something wrong with my sound :)
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Ocean Star
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HEy all
I know this has been asked ALOT here, but what about us that has the 2006 addon, shall we buy the addon or what i would love the cruise ship and the others but i was told for allmost 6 month ago that i would get the addon for free ( the 6 ships addon ) is that true and where to get it then. hope to get somekind of answer because im dying to get the updated cruiseship and the others.
regards
Nicolai
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The free one was a conversion from 2006 addon to make it compatible with 2008, and if you have bought 2006 addon there should be info in your profile (where you add your codes for the forum) on how to download it and the key.
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Hi alex
I have downloaded the addon for a long time ago but as you may know the dynamics of the addon ships are very bad and the horn sounds (are gone) as well,, will we get the updated ver. of it or am I/WE going to PAY again for the 6 ships that is in the new addon available from today at the download page, when we were promised along time ago that we will get it free those of us that has the 2006 addon..
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Going to get NH later, but could you tell me, is Bugiser easy to handle? :)
A nd do the horns work now? :P
Yeap, the horns work now :)
Bugsier is pretty much fine to handle - as long as you realise that the propulsion units are forward since she's a tractor tug you're fine. Make sure you get the keys setup for both pods to be controlled individually, you really need it on this thing unlike the other vessels to get the best out of it.
When doing an escort, she doesn't heel over in the right direction though which is quite odd!! - on the plus side, it does an escort at 10knots behind the vermaas very well indeed.....
Just going to start playing with the pusher tug now and see what that's capable of...
-Alex
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Hi Aida,
I was wondering the same thing. I bought too the add-on for ss2006 when it came out and was waiting for the add-on new horizon to get the update of the six ships freely as it was announced. But finally I paid for New horizon just one hour ago! I'm still downloading it, but with a rate of 24ko/s it takes two hours and half!
Eh eh, I don't regret to have paid for it, Vstep deserves it.
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Guys, could anyone help me with the procedure for buying it from the website? I've just now purchased it, but have not received any email, or been given a link to download it. Any guidance would be very helpful (and make me relax :)).
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Have you checked the "junk-mail"...or what its called in English
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Yes, nothing in there....
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Check "my orders" on the website
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;)
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Can anyone tell me how big the download is? Thanks
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Can anyone tell me how big the download is? Thanks
Around 200 MB
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How long does it usually take for the email to come through guys? I ordered about 45 minutes ago now, and still haven't got anything. I've checked the 'My Orders' section, and there's nothing in there either.
I'll be honest and say, if there's any brick walls that you need kicking-down, right now I'd be happy to do it for free. lol
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I got the e-mail in less than a minute
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ok easter is over, the guys back to work and the download is here. so nothing with the publisher , simply easter holidays :-) hopefully they relaxed well ;D
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Around 200 MB
Thankyou thats not as big as I was expecting I shall go and download, thanks ;D
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hi there could someone try and get photos of the fishing boat for me please i would be very grateful
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Fishing boat
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thanks for the pics
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My email came almost instantly ;D ;D ;D
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It appears to be a Firefox problem. I've bought it again in IE7, and it works fine (downloading now). I'll get my money back on the other one tomorrow, my excitement got the better of me. :)
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It appears to be a Firefox problem. I've bought it again in IE7, and it works fine (downloading now). I'll get my money back on the other one tomorrow, my excitement got the better of me. :)
That's odd, I use firefox all the time and I've never had any problems like that. I purchased the download version of SS08 and had no problems at all ;D
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Guys, could anyone help me with the procedure for buying it from the website? I've just now purchased it, but have not received any email, or been given a link to download it. Any guidance would be very helpful (and make me relax :)).
Same problem here,, got the confirmation e-mail saying that it's paid for but no download mail and it's not showing up on the my orders page either??? and I used firefox to get the game to begin with,, plus my getting the confirmation mail says they got the cash
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Nevermind just a long delay,, like 30min,, must just be real busy making cd keys :)
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And i most wait to the 4. April because i preordred :( or maybe little longer it's most send with snail mail :( :( :(
But then some waiting for some good................................ :)
TJK
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Congratulations on your purchase of Ship Simulator 2008 Add-On: New Horizons - download version.
Please click one of the links below to start downloading the New Horizons Add-On
YAY!!!!
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Just a quick review of what I've done so far...
I love it! The Bugsier is amazing, but I need to find a controller for it. Using the keyboard to control it is just awful, and my spare 360 controller has suffered from too-much Halo abuse over the years! Is there anyway to assign each Schottel Unit to an Analogue stick on a joypad (kind of how a real one works)? I've tried everything, and all problems with the pad being worn-in aside, I can't find a way to do it.
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Is there anyway to assign each Schottel Unit to an Analogue stick on a joypad (kind of how a real one works)?
Yeah, I did that..
Analog Stick one: up/down = engine 1 forward/reverse
left/right = rudder 1 left/right
Analog Stick two: up/down = engine 2 forward/reverse
left/right = rudder 2 left/right
The rest I set up like this:
(playstation type controller)
Analog Stick press 1: reset engine one
Analog Stick press 2: reset engine two
POV switch up/down: engine 1+2 fore/aft
POV switch left/right: rudder 1+2 left/right
L1+R1: thruster 1 left and right
L2+R2: thruster 2 left and right
X, O, square, triangle: left and right button = reset rudder 1 and 2. top and bottom button = reset thruster 1 and 2
Select = horn
This gives me all the controls needed to steer all vessels.. and the HUD then still has to be done with the KB of course.
Oh and I use precision steering then of course.
Regards,
Fred
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can someone get some pics of the bow splashes in 4m high waves?
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Hello to the lucky ones who have downloaded NH,
Hope your having fun with it, mine should be here in a couple of days but I have a question for you.
Can someone tell me if you can control, lets say, the bugsier from the aft control station using your joysticks/gamepad or is that still not possible because you are in walkthrough mode which disables your controllers? please
cheers
pigdog
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Fred
What brand of joystick/game controller do you use?
Mike
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Just a quick review of what I've done so far...
I love it! The Bugsier is amazing, but I need to find a controller for it. Using the keyboard to control it is just awful, and my spare 360 controller has suffered from too-much Halo abuse over the years! Is there anyway to assign each Schottel Unit to an Analogue stick on a joypad (kind of how a real one works)? I've tried everything, and all problems with the pad being worn-in aside, I can't find a way to do it.
I still prefer the use of my keyboard with precision steering and as you can see at my videos, it works fine that way. To be honest, I don't have any joystick until now, maybe it could be more fun with them ;)
Btw: the "Bugsier 2" has no Schottel-Rudder-Propeller, but two very similar Rolls-Royce Aquamaster Thrusters.
Cheers
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I bought it last night and still have no e-mail link,not impressed!!!
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You did check your Spam/Junkmail folder?
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i also bought it now and must say i,m very happy! its better than i thought and installation went without problems.
expecially the new ships are fine, i also like the new enviroment.
i got my mail immediately, but like many said, check your spamfolder since my emailbox also dealed it like spam.
so dear vstep, good work with NH!
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I bought it last night and still have no e-mail link,not impressed!!!
Probably the problem is at your end of things. I received the two emails within moments. Several other people I know have reported the same thing.
So, unless the system really dislikes you, I suspect the email is either locked in a spam trap or your ISP has managed to lose it for you. That happens more often that you might think.
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Yes, I got mine almost immediately. From the time I completed the check out, to logging in to my mail, they were both their :)
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Not in spam or anywhere to see.If i try to download again will i be charged twice?
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Ok, log on to shipsim.com, and go to my orders. Your licence keys, download links etc are there ;)
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Got them there,thanks for your help.
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No problems :)
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Not sure what they did but New Horizons runs on my PC soooooo much smoother than SS08 did by itself, can actually do full graphics now. Anyone else with Vista notice this? Just wondering if they fixed a bunch of stuff or if it was something I had done just before it came out.
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Yes, it's a lot better. I still can't quite run at full graphics in multiplayer, but that's because my current GPU is inadequate. Great update, and I love all the new ships.
* Edited for language - Mad_Fred
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I hate how you have to buy it!!!
I though it would be a free addon like the others
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I hate how you have to buy it!!!
I though it would be a free addon like the others
This is an addon with new content not a bug fix patch.
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Not sure what they did but New Horizons runs on my PC soooooo much smoother than SS08 did by itself, can actually do full graphics now. Anyone else with Vista notice this? Just wondering if they fixed a bunch of stuff or if it was something I had done just before it came out.
I've got Windows, and it seems to be running a bit smoother. Not a lot, but a bit :P
I hate how you have to buy it!!!
I though it would be a free addon like the others
Yeah, as Agent said, it is brand new vessels included ;) I don't think it's that expensive :P
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I've got Windows, and it seems to be running a bit smoother. Not a lot, but a bit :P
Yeah, as Agent said, it is brand new vessels included ;) I don't think it's that expensive :P
Vista is WINDOWS.... Widnows XP and Windows Vista...
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Yeah, as Agent said, it is brand new vessels included ;) I don't think it's that expensive :P
It is as much as the game itself
This is a pretty expensive game
Wish i hade the money
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This is an addon with new content not a bug fix patch.
Ok,
I get it now
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I hate how you have to buy it!!!
I though it would be a free addon like the others
please when you find something in this world or the next let me know
nothing absollutly nothing is free there is allways something attached
Eric ;D
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Why do people expect things like this for free? 8 New Ships and an enviroment is almost like doubling the size of the game, you can't have it for free!
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i'm downloading the game but the download speed don't get higher as 10 KB/sec.
knows someone how I can fix this??
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This should be for free we paid good money for SS08, i bought a brand new High end Gaming PC for it and it never would go online, i feel like i got ripped off because it was a buggy unfinished beta when i bought it in the beginning and now when they got things running they want more money from me. >:(
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This should be for free we paid good money for SS08, i bought a brand new High end Gaming PC for it and it never would go online, i feel like i got ripped off because it was a buggy unfinished beta when i bought it in the beginning and now when they got things running they want more money from me. >:(
Don't be daft. This is not a bug fix, it's a completely new set of stuff. That's like saying "I want Vista for Free, because I bought XP and it doesn't have all the stuff I think it should do". Why should you get that for free? That's just being ridiculous.
In any case, the original was nothing like a beta. I have V1.0 and it works fine. They have released various upgrades for free. I've installed those and each time they have given me more and more free stuff. I think that's extremely goof of Vstep.
And there are more free updates coming shortly.
If you can't get your PC to go on-line that's a problem with your PC, I expect.
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just bought a brand new computer and now i,m redownloading shipsim :) keep your fingers crossed that my new machine will turn shipsim with graphics maxed out ;D
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just bought a brand new computer and now i,m redownloading shipsim :) keep your fingers crossed that my new machine will turn shipsim with graphics maxed out ;D
Good luck. This game is a beaut at max settings. When I was working with the devs on bringing 2008 online I had to upgrade my gaming rig. We do so much for good gaming . . . Err, simming.
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just bought a brand new computer and now i,m redownloading shipsim :) keep your fingers crossed that my new machine will turn shipsim with graphics maxed out ;D
Hope you have a really good experience. I have to say mine works wonderfully. Good graphics, excellent sound (hooked intoa really powerful set of Amps) and lots of fun.
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Hope you have a really good experience. I have to say mine works wonderfully. Good graphics, excellent sound (hooked intoa really powerful set of Amps) and lots of fun.
What AMPS have you got Terry? Power AMPS or Hifi amps?
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I am interested as well . . .
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What AMPS have you got Terry? Power AMPS or Hifi amps?
Pioneer RDX750
5 Channel
1000 Watts per channel RMS
Each channel with independent volume and 12 station graphics equaliser
Speakers are also Pioneer, standing 4.5 feet high (about 1.5metres) and 3 foot wide (about 1 metre) in solid wooden cabinets.
Its recording studio equipment, not your average home hi-fi system. I've had it for many years. All linked to 32 track digitial and midi recording system.
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thanks gents!
just played some missions with all graphics on and i was amazed! wow, a new quality of shipsim, no stuttering, fast loading, beautiful! i enjoyed the wakes of other ships , the 20km emviroment, reflections, yeah!
i must say that a basic equipment for enjoying this sim is a powerful computer!
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i'm downloading the game but the download speed don't get higher as 10 KB/sec.
knows someone how I can fix this??
Has to be your connection cause with Cable it's lightening fast on the download.
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Has to be your connection cause with Cable it's lightening fast on the download.
Agreed - I was averaging 120 kbs as opposed to 10
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Hallo,
I have bought the New Horizons and now I can't play SS08, because for the first my version is now in english language, a german patch will be available soon.
Many missions are closed, because the game says, that are the ships in my version are not available. Whats wrong.
I have installed SS08 and the i have put the license key in. Then I have installaed the patches 1.1 and 1.1 to 1.3. After that I have installed the New Horizon. The installer says to me, now my version will be an englisg language version, because the german language pack will be come soon. Ok, I think, my english is ok to play the game in english. But now I can't play many missions. ?Please, can anyone help me ?
Thanks and best regards
Egbert
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Pioneer RDX750
5 Channel
1000 Watts per channel RMS
Each channel with independent volume and 12 station graphics equaliser
Speakers are also Pioneer, standing 4.5 feet high (about 1.5metres) and 3 foot wide (about 1 metre) in solid wooden cabinets.
Its recording studio equipment, not your average home hi-fi system. I've had it for many years. All linked to 32 track digitial and midi recording system.
Nice gear Terry, should shake the house if you turn it up ;D What does your AMP kick out then? 4/8 ohms?? If you've got 1000W RMS then you can peak at 2000W but it depends what ohms your running and what your speakers run at.
Should be fun playing ShipSim though! ;D
EDIT: Typo
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I have NEVER turned it up past about the second notch. The walls shake at that point. Actually that's not quite true. I did once take it all to a friend's open-air birthday party. We had it one-third-way up, but blew out a couple of woofers in his field.
Speakers are 8R, but that's what the system is designed for. V=IR, P=VI etc, so speaker impedance is actually irrelevant since amplifier output is matched to the speakers. Yes, about 2000W "music" or "peak" power (I hate those terms, so imprecise)
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lol I hope you live in a detached house, can't annoy the neighbours too much, have the police round ;D
I must admit, we've got single glazed windows here, and when I turn my sound system up quite high it actually shakes the floor and the windows :D
I hate how complicated the AMPS and speakers thing all works. I've had it explained to me a number of times and still can't remember exactly how it is ::)
That's the problem with open air events, you can't actually tell if your speakers are pushing to the max as much as if you were indoors. Watch your clipping LED's and VU's ;D
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The main problem was that my mate had obtained what he thought were 1000W speakers, but they were only 1000W peak, not RMS. So I took them out at around 30-40% power. That cost him quite a few ha'pennies!
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The main problem was that my mate had obtained what he thought were 1000W speakers, but they were only 1000W peak, not RMS. So I took them out at around 30-40% power. That cost him quite a few ha'pennies!
Ooops! I bet he wasn't a happy bunny!! ;D
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Actually he was OK. We had been messing around building electronic "thingies" since we were kids. Having blown up half of the UK's electrical systems at various stages, this was no great surprise to him.
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Actually he was OK. We had been messing around building electronic "thingies" since we were kids. Having blown up half of the UK's electrical systems at various stages, this was no great surprise to him.
lol, he must be quite a bright spark then :D ;D
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Yeah, but we always carried a fire extiguisher.
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nh is awsome thank you guys at vstep for making a great product ;D 8) :o
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is new horizons out today (4th april) boxed?
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It was released yesterday Jack, the memeber IRI5HJ4CK recieved his yesterday, and i got an e-mail saying mine had been dispatched ;)
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I have just gotten New Horizons tonight and the installation menu will not come up, why is this? >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Go to "My Computer" and click on the disc drive icon (D:) The installation menu will come on.
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I have already tryed that, for some reason the (D:) icon isn't in my "My Computer" files.
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I have already tryed that, for some reason the (D:) icon isn't in my "My Computer" files.
'D:' Will not always be your CD-ROM drive. It could be any letter and you can assign it to any letter too. Graeme, have you tried using a different CD in your drive to make sure there's nothing wrong with your drive???
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Yes I have, unfortunetly. :(
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I have just gotten New Horizons tonight and the installation menu will not come up, why is this? >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
You should probably take this to Technical Support.
Post a full description of what you've done and what happened (or didn't). Including if you've successfully launched other CD-based installers since trying the NH disk [hint!].
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I have just posted a topic about it on Tech Support right now.
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Yay, i finally managed to buy New Horizons :D.I must say, i am very impressed with VSTEP, you have achieved a lot.Im wondering why i cant find the push boats engine room?
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Yay, i finally managed to buy New Horizons :D.I must say, i am very impressed with VSTEP, you have achieved a lot.Im wondering why i cant find the push boats engine room?
It is on the starboard side. The second door near the stern. ;)
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It is on the starboard side. The second door near the stern. ;)
Thanks,there a bit tricky to find. Phew... it smells like gasoline in here, hope there are no leaks :D, oh sorry that was just me ;).
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Thanks,there a bit tricky to find. Phew... it smells like gasoline in here, hope there are no leaks :D, oh sorry that was just me ;).
GASOLINE??! What did you doooo!!! They run on diesel!! NOOOOOOOOOO you killed it. :(
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What do you meen by
NOOOOOOOOOO you killed it
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If you put diesel into a gasoline tank you ruin the engine ;)
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And the same if you put gasoline into diesel engines ;)
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Well I know that much although i'm not hugely up on engines.
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and if you run out of gas you have to get a new engine in a diesel. And always idle a diesel for 30 seconds before turning off. And they have glow plugs or block heaters so the diesel doesn't look like jello.
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and if you run out of gas you have to get a new engine in a diesel. And always idle a diesel for 30 seconds before turning off. And they have glow plugs or block heaters so the diesel doesn't look like jello.bold edit TJK
What you mean "and if you run out of gas you have to get a new engine in a diesel" must bay new engine?
Joust fill up the tank and you most pump manually the diesel to get out the air of the system, that's big engine, they as used in small cars joust start and after a while it will run normal. " 30 seconds before turning off" well almost right that are for those cars who haw turbo
I hope I misunderstand you here I drive a big 50 ton's 18 wailers myself so I know this.
TJK :)
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Yep, I gotta agree.
I've managed to run out of diesel a few times in boat (I owned a Nelson with a 50HP Perkin-Elmer) and also in one car.
I both cases, having refuelled I just used the primer pump and hey presto, off we went.
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What you mean "and if you run out of gas you have to get a new engine in a diesel" must bay new engine?
Joust fill up the tank and you most pump manually the diesel to get out the air of the system, that's big engine, they as used in small cars joust start and after a while it will run normal. " 30 seconds before turning off" well almost right that are for those cars who haw turbo
I hope I misunderstand you here I drive a big 50 ton's 18 wailers myself so I know this.
TJK :)
Well thats different when you already have 30 gallons just in the fuel lines. And another 130 in the tank. It is almost impossible too. You would have to get a new engine. Different if you accidentally put gas in diesel, if you don't run it then you can just pump it all out and flush the system. But running out of diesel is one thing you don't want to do.
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Hi,
I experienced running out of DO on a caterpillar marine main engine 3600 kW, and we had to prime again the DO pump and drain the circuit by turning the engine with the turning gear for few minutes. And it worked again.
And always idle a diesel for 30 seconds before turning off
Depending on the size of the engine and the way it is used, it can be completely different. On board this ship, we used the engines at constant speed with CPP. The slowing down procedure lasts around 10-20 min and stop when idle speed reached.
Budbud
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Well thats different when you already have 30 gallons just in the fuel lines. And another 130 in the tank. It is almost impossible too. You would have to get a new engine. Different if you accidentally put gas in diesel, if you don't run it then you can just pump it all out and flush the system. But running out of diesel is one thing you don't want to do.
Hi Agent|Austin.
I've got to disagree somewhat.
Running our of diesel doesn't mean replacing the engine. Even in large warships, if they run out, the system can be re-primed. It just takes longer with larger engines.
Even putting perol (or "gas" to you Yanks!) into a diesel engine isn't generally fatal. Although it can damage the engine more often it just makes it run very "lumpy" or else cut out.
My wife once managed to put petrol into my car. It ran quite jerkily for about the 50 miles home, she said. I just topped up with diesel and it perked up. Ran fine after that.
Even diesel in a petrol engine generally just needs siphoning out and then refilling the tanlk with petrol. It then takes a lot of turning of the engine to get it worked through, but generally it will restart after a while and then be OK.
definitely not recommended though. In extreme cases, the engine can be damaged. It's just a lot less often than people think. It's always best to change all the fuel line filters afterwards.
Of course putting Van Diesel into your engine may have much more serious side effects.
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Hi Agent|Austin.
I've got to disagree somewhat.
Running our of diesel doesn't mean replacing the engine. Even in large warships, if they run out, the system can be re-primed. It just takes longer with larger engines.
Even putting perol (or "gas" to you Yanks!) into a diesel engine isn't generally fatal. Although it can damage the engine more often it just makes it run very "lumpy" or else cut out.
My wife once managed to put petrol into my car. It ran quite jerkily for about the 50 miles home, she said. I just topped up with diesel and it perked up. Ran fine after that.
Even diesel in a petrol engine generally just needs siphoning out and then refilling the tanlk with petrol. It then takes a lot of turning of the engine to get it worked through, but generally it will restart after a while and then be OK.
definitely not recommended though. In extreme cases, the engine can be damaged. It's just a lot less often than people think. It's always best to change all the fuel line filters afterwards.
Of course putting Van Diesel into your engine may have much more serious side effects.
I would have to say otherwise knowing that it has happened, and working on diesel engines for a few years. + Operating a 20 ton piece of equipment for 3 years, since I was 10.
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I would have to say otherwise knowing that it has happened, and working on diesel engines for a few years. + Operating a 20 ton piece of equipment for 3 years, since I was 10.
maybe the was oil you get empty on,that's no god for the engines, you haw burn it and then you most bay a new on :D
What type of engines are you talking about? and car\ equipment 10 years and handle so big equipment ??? Operating a 20 ton piece of equipment for 3 years,since I was 10.
who let a kid do so? :o sorry most ask I'm :o mean no harm joust :o
TJK
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I would have to say otherwise knowing that it has happened, and working on diesel engines for a few years. + Operating a 20 ton piece of equipment for 3 years, since I was 10.
Well, I guess that beats my 45 years of experience, then... Guess I've been lucky and you haven't. In my experience, most times when peoiple put petrol in diesel engines or the other way round, no permanent damage was caused. Seen it in marine engines from 50 HP to 3500 and in petrol engines from 1100cc up to twin 6 Litres. Worst I've had to to is blow a few nozzles clear if summer diesel gets put into a petrol engine in the winter. (Goes waxy).
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Well, I guess that beats my 45 years of experience, then... Guess I've been lucky and you haven't. In my experience, most times when peoiple put petrol in diesel engines or the other way round, no permanent damage was caused. Seen it in marine engines from 50 HP to 3500 and in petrol engines from 1100cc up to twin 6 Litres. Worst I've had to to is blow a few nozzles clear if summer diesel gets put into a petrol engine in the winter. (Goes waxy).
Me to Terry, I joust hawe 40 years experiens with Bus, trailer,and other diesel and gasolin cars, We are to old i think Terry, we don't know enything no more, the kid are the master ;D
Friendly Regards
Tore
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Me to Terry, I joust hawe 40 years experiens with Bus, trailer,and other diesel and gasolin cars, We are to old i think Terry, we don't know enything no more, the kid are the master ;D
Friendly Regards
Tore
Yeah, I'm nearly senile now. What do I know? At least, that's what my kids say. (Kids? My daughter is 29 and my son is 27. But they still say it).
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Marine engines and car engines are different then equipment engines.
Question, ever ran a cat 385?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJbIorvLaJg
I have.
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Marine engines and car engines are different then equipment engines.
Question, ever ran a cat 385?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJbIorvLaJg
I have.
Small stuff compared to the twin diesels on a lifeboat. ;)
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Yeah, I'm nearly senile now. What do I know? At least, that's what my kids say. (Kids? My daughter is 29 and my son is 27. But they still say it).
Same here to i hawe one daughter 27 and to boys 22 and 25, don't tell i caled them boys,
Alzheimer light they call it in Norway ;D ore complete senile ;D
But i hawe a grandaughter 3 years old, that's fun ;D
TJK
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Marine engines and car engines are different then equipment engines.
Question, ever ran a cat 385?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJbIorvLaJg
I have.
Small stuff compared to a 18 wiles truck with a v12 engine with 1200 horsepower ;D
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Small stuff compared to a 18 wiles truck with a v12 engine with 1200 horsepower ;D
I'v driven those also... Actually not quite small. 85 tons.
And once again, marine engines and truck/car engines are not like machine engines.
513 HP
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I'v driven those also... Actually not quite small. 85 tons.
And once again, marine engines and truck/car engines are not like machine engines.
513 HP
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If that made any sense?
You made me,
ever driven a cat D11?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0EeHqED4kSg
935 HP
426 Gallon Fuel Tank
I haven't but I have friends that have. I have driven a D10.
By the way, the most HP any semi truck produced in the USA only has 500 HP. ;)
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Also, since you guys both think your better then me, have either of you ever been to the US and worked on US engines? Yeah they are different then your little European engines.
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I Thoth this topics was about new horizons, not about a little boy thinking he can everything back to topic pleas end of this stupid discussion
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I Thoth this topics was about new horizons, not about a little boy thinking he can everything back to topic pleas end of this stupid discussion
Oh really, you mean running equipment since I was 5 and knowing how everything works, and you still think you win?
I googled it and you were right, it is still a pain in the rear if you run out of diesel though. And putting petrol in it is never a good thing. My grandpa always told me that it would seize up, guess because he just didn't want to pay to change the filter and bleed the system, guess it worked cause I believed it this whole time.
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Oh really, you mean running equipment since I was 5 and knowing how everything works, and you still think you win?
I googled it and you were right, it is still a pain in the rear if you run out of diesel though. And putting petrol in it is never a good thing. My grandpa always told me that it would seize up, guess because he just didn't want to pay to change the filter and bleed the system, guess it worked cause I believed it this whole time.Small text edit by TJK
Back to topics then new horizons
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I just want to add a comment to the fuel discussion, because you should know a little about this as a captain of a large container ship ;)
Large ships don't run on diesel oil or gasoline, they run on heavy fuel called Bunker C oil or No.6 oil which is the most common fuel. This fuel is what remains from crude oil when it's distilled and you get gasoline and other light oils like diesel. Smaller ships use different versions of light oil, or simply different qualities of diesel oil.
You will not ruin an engine by feeding it the wrong fuel, not even a car engine. But you will ruin fuel pumps, filters and so on which have to be replaced. Could become a very expensive mistake..
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I just want to add a comment to the fuel discussion, because you should know a little about this as a captain of a large container ship ;)
Large ships don't run on diesel oil or gasoline, they run on heavy fuel called Bunker C oil or No.6 oil which is the most common fuel. This fuel is what remains from crude oil when it's distilled and you get gasoline and other light oils like diesel. Smaller ships use different versions of light oil, or simply different qualities of diesel oil.
You will not ruin an engine by feeding it the wrong fuel, not even a car engine. But you will ruin fuel pumps, filters and so on which have to be replaced. Could become a very expensive mistake..
That's correct,not smart to run with wrong fuel. And for big ships fuel yes we cud see that when Color Lines old Christian 4. started up and leave to Denmark, Hole Kristiansand was dark for an hour after the smoke from the engines this was not god and that terrible smell ::)
Can we place go pact to topic now
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I just want to add a comment to the fuel discussion, because you should know a little about this as a captain of a large container ship ;)
Large ships don't run on diesel oil or gasoline, they run on heavy fuel called Bunker C oil or No.6 oil which is the most common fuel. This fuel is what remains from crude oil when it's distilled and you get gasoline and other light oils like diesel. Smaller ships use different versions of light oil, or simply different qualities of diesel oil.
You will not ruin an engine by feeding it the wrong fuel, not even a car engine. But you will ruin fuel pumps, filters and so on which have to be replaced. Could become a very expensive mistake..
Quite right. Testing fuel oil quality (TBN - total base number, water content and so on) is part of the routine for any vessel running on fuel oil.
Several of my clients make equipment for use on Naval and other vessels, so that when they go to a fuelling point, they can cheeck the quality before they take it on. That relatively cheap test equipment pays for itself very quickly, especially in countries where grade and quality of oil is not so certain.
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Yep. Just sold the wife into slavery to pay for New Horizons. There's going to some tricky times ahead when she finds out....
And now back to the original topic....