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English forum => Small talk => Topic started by: Dannypenguin on September 24, 2013, 14:51:12
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The new P&O ship will be named Britannia, after an email I recieved this afternoon. The name ‘Britannia’ has historical importance for P&O, as two of their previous ships have been named this. :D Its not the best looking ship in the world, and just a tiny bit big for me, but it'll still be brilliant (and it certainly looks better than RCI's quantum class ;)). She should be with us in 2015 if all goes well.
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Great ship! All we are looking forward to seeing it sailing... ;D
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Thats the third similar NCL, POC ship, lovely..
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Is it me or this derserves a place on the rate that ugly ship topic? :doh:
Thats just given me an idea! !:)
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Hehe! :D I don't think it's ugly tbh..
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So, do I... ;D
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It's not ugly, it doesn't look too different to some other ships, but you wouldn't call them ugly, I agree. About those funnels though, maybe the designer sneezed when drawing the side elevation. Hehe
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Well, sorry to bump this topic but they've update her now...They have decided to 'plonk' a 94m Union Jack flag on her bow. Appartently Aurora is going to recieve this first this year in its refit, and I guess the rest of the fleet at some stage will get it to. They are also going to deivate from the traditional cream funnels to blue with their rising sun logo, and the rest of the fleet will get this too. From my understanding they have been losing business, and that after the recent price debarcle (see cruise critic) their ships are leaving Southampton half emtpy, and that other lines are coming in to "carve up the kingdom". Appears with this bold move they are trying to get back customers by adding 94m of British advertising! :doh: See attatched image.
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Found a better image now, find it on my website here.
(http://onboardboats.webs.com/apps/blog/show/40849392-a-bold-new-livery-take-two-another-image-of-p-o-s-britannia)
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Found a better image now, find it on my website here.
(http://onboardboats.webs.com/apps/blog/show/40849392-a-bold-new-livery-take-two-another-image-of-p-o-s-britannia)
Well i think its a big and bold move from P&O and good luck to them. I think it looks great but thats my personal opinion
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Yeah, it really looks great and I belive that its interiors will be the same great :captain:
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Well, sorry to bump this topic but they've update her now...They have decided to 'plonk' a 94m Union Jack flag on her bow. Appartently Aurora is going to recieve this first this year in its refit, and I guess the rest of the fleet at some stage will get it to. They are also going to deivate from the traditional cream funnels to blue with their rising sun logo, and the rest of the fleet will get this too. From my understanding they have been losing business, and that after the recent price debarcle (see cruise critic) their ships are leaving Southampton half emtpy, and that other lines are coming in to "carve up the kingdom". Appears with this bold move they are trying to get back customers by adding 94m of British advertising! :doh: See attatched image.
It would have made more sence to do it in 2012 don't you think? Anyway I know a lot of Asian contires like British products so it may be an attraction to them? But if Scotland leaves the UK that mean we'll need a new flag so it just be a wast of money :doh:
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It would have made more sence to do it in 2012 don't you think? Anyway I know a lot of Asian contires like British products so it may be an attraction to them? But if Scotland leaves the UK that mean we'll need a new flag so it just be a wast of money :doh:
I think that might be the point - attract more business from overseas, as the British seem to be leaving them. :-\
You have a point with Scotland! Be interesting to see what happens then... :P
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Do you have a crap, anachronistic, overpriced product to sell?
Don't worry, simply change the colour of a small part of it and paint a flag on it.
Wouldn't be surprised to see a few of the idiot brigade from Belfast signing up for a cruise as they have had their flag stolen from outside the city hall and apparently they all got a bit upset about it.
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So you're a fan of this ship then? ::)
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overpriced product to sell?
Don't worry, simply change the colour of a small part of it and paint a flag on it.
overpriced product to sell? yes i agree with that, but as for the rest of your post i think your out of order saying that. Each to there own on that one , your entitled to your opinion as much as i am to mine. ( no offence meant clanky )
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I think that might be the point - attract more business from overseas, as the British seem to be leaving them. :-\
You have a point with Scotland! Be interesting to see what happens then... :P
I seen some proposed flags for the new UK and they each contain Welsh flag in it (Finally :2thumbs:) - so the fact the flag will change it would be draping if Scotland leaves. I just think it's a wast of time if this happend....
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Isn't the referendum this year? :P Probably after Aurora's refit too, meaning that it will be very pointless expensive excersize...hmmmm...
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Yep - in September
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Well, we'll see what happens, but I don't think the Scots'll leave :) not to bring politics in here... :P
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Found some more images today, these ones are of a real ship! :D I believe her launch date will be 14 Feb. More images on the link in my signature.
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we wish her happy sailing from its launch to its scraping ;)
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She was launched today. :) Rule Britannia as they say... :angel:
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were you there to see it?
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Nope :( However I want to see if I can persuade my parents to go on a overnight break to Southampton that "conviently" co-incides with the new ship being there :thumbs: Won't be till next year though...
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I hope they'll let you :angel:
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Found an image of her on the water today, don't know when it was taken. The two funnels are growing on me... :)
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You can pretty much call it a sister ship to the princesses
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Its to the same basic designs as the Royal's, except this one's slightly larger, but its not it any way affiliated with the Shiff's or Norwegians. :P
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Keeping the paint of the Union Jack off just incase Scotland leaves I see :lol: ;) :P
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Keeping the paint of the Union Jack off just incase Scotland leaves I see :lol: ;) :P
I was surprised to see that it hasn't been painted on yet, but that is probably the reason why. :doh:
Here's another image, taken in early May. :)
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Patriotism, the last refuge of the scoundrel.
I reckon they are trying to appeal to all of the idiots who voted for UKIP.
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Why are they idiots? An awful lot of folks are fed up with the EU, so they merely rebelled. In most of the countries of the EU it appears to be the same.
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Here in north Europe there is a lot of people against the EU as we had to pay a lot to bale out Greece and Spain - where I live there is also a lot of unhappiness due to the new fishing regulations and animal regulations (which I think is stupid as it makes comercial fishing somewhat impossible - those guys seriously need to get out of there offices) and UKIP did quite well seeing nobody knew about them until a few years ago!
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I reckon they are trying to appeal to all of the idiots who voted for UKIP.
So 1 in 3 people you see is an idiot then clanky ;)
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So 1 in 3 people you see is an idiot then clanky ;)
1 in 3 people in the UK didn't vote for UKIP.
And Traddles, they are idiots because they didn't look any further than the anti EU agenda, voting for a political partg based on a single policy is stupid, particularly when, in the run up to the election, so many of the party's candidates were exposed as racists. If people have genuine concerns about the EU then there are other parties which have sensible policies in other areas who are also seekinh major EU reform.
The rise of the far right after a world recession should be ringing alarm bells in the heads of anyone with even an inkling of historical education.
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Again most people are against the EU as we have had to pay so much out to help countries - without the richer countries in the EU Greece would have probably been brought by Bill Gates....
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Uh i'm trying to find the connection between painting a flag on a ship and being against the EU ???
btw, does voting for UKIP mean 'bye bye to Europeans living in this country?' -- Some random quote i found on the internet which sounded very extreme to me
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1 in 3 people in the UK didn't vote for UKIP.
29.1% to be precise (minus N. Ireland), and for those that didn't vote, they had their chance. I think thats pretty damn close to 1 in 3.
Now please, if you would like to discuss this can you please take it to another topic, this is a cruise ship topic not Westminster.
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Well well well, I found this image earlier on:
(http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o753/Dannypenguin/PampOLivery_zpsb1baf944.jpg) (http://s1341.photobucket.com/user/Dannypenguin/media/PampOLivery_zpsb1baf944.jpg.html)
Thats (roughly) what Arcadia, Aurora and Oriana will look like with the new livery, and tbh, I don't think it is actually thaaaat bad... :) Adds a little colour into the cruise industry anyhow! ;D
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:doh:
That could be expensive if Scotland leaves...
The new flag will contain something to do with Wales (finaly) and could look like this:
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:doh:
That could be expensive if Scotland leaves...
That hasn't actually been painted on yet, thats a photoshop! :doh: Mind, it would be interesting to see how they'd fit that flag on the side, maybe just repace the blue with green?
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:doh:
But the new flag will probably contain green as the national colors of Wales are Red (but its already covering the flag - it be too red), White (too boring plus the back of the English Flag is white so it may not be fair representation) and green (it be the first time green been on the national flag!
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Livery being applied ;)
(http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o753/Dannypenguin/PampOlivery_zps22d324fe.png) (http://s1341.photobucket.com/user/Dannypenguin/media/PampOlivery_zps22d324fe.png.html)
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Bit early as we don't even know what Scotland doing - if they leave the Union Jack will be replaced with a flag without Scotland and with Wales in it! :-X
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They're obviously confident :doh:
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It could be very painful for P&O if it a yes vote! :doh:
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Surprised its the blue going on to be fair, as I think I have said before, the blue could just be changed to green and the red could stay the same :doh:
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Regarding the flag; I mean no disrespect to any scots and point out these are not my personal pollitical views: I heard some people talking this week saying they don't think Scotland will leave . They would struggle too much financially. So I think P&O will be fine to paint it in.
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Yeah I heard that but if they do it's going to be expensive...
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My two pennies worth here...
I highly doubt that there will be any changes made to the Union Flag if Scotland were to leave (which again, I highly doubt). The original composition of the flag was without the four red bands in each corner, and these were later added to represent Ireland in the Union.
Obviously, Ireland became a Free State in 1922 and the flag was not altered. Although granted, the UK still has several Northern Irish Counties, these were not actually specified by Britain in the Anglo-Irish treaty, but instead those counties exercised their right under the treaty to remain British. So, in actuality, if they had decided to remain as part of the Irish Free State the Union Flag would still not have been altered, as the Crown had given the entire island of Ireland the opportunity for independent rule.
Anyway...enough politics :lol:. I have mixed opinions on the new livery. In my eyes P&O were like Cunard in that they maintained an apparent level of "quality", but I cannot help but look at this new livery with a feeling that it has the typical tacky "cruise ship" air about it. Granted, you'd be a fool to think that any cruise ship company is of the same quality as was such with the ocean liner days of Cunard and the White Star, but at least it "appeared" that way with the old livery.
Kind Regards,
Jack.
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I have mixed opinions on the new livery. In my eyes P&O were like Cunard in that they maintained an apparent level of "quality", but I cannot help but look at this new livery with a feeling that it has the typical tacky "cruise ship" air about it. Granted, you'd be a fool to think that any cruise ship company is of the same quality as was such with the ocean liner days of Cunard and the White Star, but at least it "appeared" that way with the old livery.
My personal opinion is that they should have kept the buff funnels, as that + the flags wouldn't have looked too bad, but the new funnels do look a little tacky to be honest...
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I actually found that abit funny because Cunards first ever ship was called Britannia.
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The now completed livery...
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The now completed livery...
They were lucky with the referendum :doh:
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The were, but I think now that it looks awesome :)
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Out on the open sea:
What do you guys think of the finished product? :)
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Looks pretty neat I think. A lot better than the production renders.
I like the paint scheme as well. Slick and not too over the top.
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A lot better than the production renders.
That's what I thought :)
One I forgot to post here:
Aurora after her December refit...I'm not sure if I preffered it before... :-\ She was so elegant in my eyes!
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So are P&O rebranding all of there ships with the silly union jack thing and those horrible blue funnels?
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So are P&O rebranding all of there ships with the silly union jack thing and those horrible blue funnels?
Yep! :doh:
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And its here! Two years, a host of changes from the original design but finally its in its natural place - Southampton.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX8NvcecrBw
:2thumbs:
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Funny how cruise ships nowadays resemble livestock carriers.. ;D
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Everyone wants balconies, that's the issue. I don't think Britannia has any onside cabins at all actually. ;D
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It reminds me of a story about a passenger who complained his cabin did not have a sea-view..
They were still docked.. :doh:
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I somehow can imagine multiple people having complained for that. :P
The loads of balconies does influence the exterior immensely. But perfectly understandable once you see what's inside.
Take Norwegian Epic. The exterior is as ugly as it can get, but oh man I wish I could get onboard that ship in one of those Spa cabins. ;D
I guess in 50 years ships like this will be looked at as beautiful compared to the then new design. Back in Titanic's era, loads of people despised the huge ocean liners' design that suddenly popped up everywhere as they were mostly used to sailing vessels. Nowadays we look back at those steam ships as beautiful vessels. :P
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Funny how cruise ships nowadays resemble livestock carriers.. ;D
That is because it is EXACTLY what they are. :evil: Talking cargo? Even the sheep and cattle do not do that, just stink rather badly.
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Never mind the stink of cattle, just watched a documentary that cruise ships create quite a lot of air pollution through their funnels. Be it in Venice or Norway or anywhere..
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Well I doubt if these run on solar power: :P
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-y7yu4m6zq9A/T6KeGaYRDJI/AAAAAAAAjNU/J8izAOFN5v4/s1600/1.gif)
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Apparently they have started fitting exhaust scrubbers, but yes, with engines as large as that there is always going to be some pollution :P
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A shore-to-ship power supply (http://www.abb.com/cawp/seitp202/84051796b5d6f141c1257715004882a3.aspx) would be helpful, so the ship doesn't need to run her engines all the time she is in port..
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I think thats already been implemented in some places, say Rotterdam -
http://www.greenport.com/news101/europe/shore-based-power-for-rotterdam
I also saw something about an LNG Generator thart powered ships in port, that seems a good idea as then you can move it between berths and ships. :)
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In European ports ships are only allowed to burn fuels with very low sulphur content which greatly reduces the type of air pollution which causes acid rain, as a side effect these fuels also tend to be lower in other elements which cause different types of pollution.
The process of connecting to a shore supply while in port is OK so long as the supply can be synchronised to the ship's supply without the need for the ship to "black out" on every arrival and departure. A portable LNG generator is OK for cargo ships, but the electrical load on a modern cruise ship is immense and the transfer of that kind of power to shore generators would not be an easy task.
The other issue is that while LNG is cleaner than even the ultra low sulphur fuels that ship's are now burning, it still produces CO2 so although it may be slightly less polluting it is not some sort of miracle answer to the problem of air pollution caused by ships.