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English forum => Small talk => The Chat Lounge => Topic started by: Third Mate on June 29, 2011, 05:04:28
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I noticed there are a lot of train simulators out there :2thumbs: but, which is the best one? So far as I know there is Auran company who developed Trainz to Trains 12 :o . Microsoft has their Train Sim but cancelled the development of Train Sim 2. Then there's Rail Simulator and next to that one is Rail Works 2. The whole idea is to have the most realistic train driving experience, so a lot of companies claim to have it. At the momment, I have Rail Simulator and planning to upgraded to Rail Works 2.
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Hello 3rd,
It's possible that Railworks 2 is leading at the moment, though fans of Trainz may think differently.
Personally, I am a fan of Microsoft Train Simulator (MSTS) and there is simply a world out there when it comes to add ons and free downloads. I understand that MSTS is quite an old sim but there are many who will stay "faithful" to it. MSTS has also fairly simple controls and it is quite easy to handle the trains. The MSTS disk is also very cheap (A$ 7.00 in India). If you visit www.trainsim.com , you will see the abundance of downloads available for MSTS and most of them are free. I must admit though that the graphics are not that great and SSE is way beyond. Railworks has better graphics than MSTS.
MSTS poses its own challenges when it comes to downloading and installing routes and all the rolling stock it requires as you will need to be very patient with the error messages that show up. It is mainly due to to the fact that some consists / locomotives / wagons have not been installed which the route requires. But they are all there and searching will always give you positive results. In the past week, I downloaded the Newark & Jersey City route and it took quite a while to eventually get all that was required but if you have the 'never say die' attitude you will succeed. The route after installation threw 23 error messages and I cleared them all by reading on the Forum and using searches. I now have 19 freight activities to try out. India has a huge railway network and Indian fans have created routes too on MSTS. Just yesterday I downloaded a route which runs from Bombay to Pune. The activities (missions) included operating the local commuter trains in Bombay and since I know Bombay well I was impressed with what the route gave. What really amazes me is the generosity of the route creators as they have put in many hours of hard work to create lengthy routes and they then put it up for a free download. There are also many Australian routes which you may find interesting.
The other aspect of any train sim is what you are more interested in - passenger activities or freight activities. I find freight activities more challenging. There are some routes in which you go from Point A to Point B and they can be as long as 5 hours (eg, Maple Leaf Tracks). I am sure there are many who would enjoy this train ride just for the scenery.
I had also checked out Railworks 2 at their website. It seems that you have to buy all the add ons and they are a bit on the expensive side.
If you are familiar with www.trainsim.com you will notice how MSTS rules there. See attachment - it gives you an idea as to the amount that is available as free downloads.
Regards
vin_sun
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Greetings Vin,
Indeed Microsoft Train Sim, I like to call it the Ancient God of Train Simulation. I am very comfortable with the sim, I have had it since it came out, I have over 10 GB of add ons and modifications to make it more realistic ;D. I have a payware route, cambiran coast line which it comes with a cozy little steam engine. The sounds now, are ultra realistic compared to other Train Sims. If you know what you are doing you can make it the best train sim ever :thumbs: I personally like Romanian Trains because that was my home country until I migrated to Australia. The Romanian brand of trains is CFR, I love it alot. I am still looking for accurate sound pack for the passenger boogies to match the real life sounds :sleepy:. I tryed trainz 2010 and it's not as good as I hoped for, the routes are too short, I just never made a personall connection with it. So I had Rail Simulator instead with more payware add-ons now, and now I find out they have Rail Works 2 which is a more upgraded version of Rail Sim. Now I am excited to get it sometime.
Third
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It depends what you want to do, for me Trainz is better for creating routes, the editor is fairly intuitive and with a little effort and a bit of familiarity with the system the results can be fantastic. The scenario creation system is also very good.
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@ Third Mate I was in the same situation and got Railworks 2 from Steam it is awesome.
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I also have Railworks 2, It's very good :)
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Does Railworks have an equivalent of Trainz' surveyor where you can make your own routes?
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Does Railworks have an equivalent of Trainz' surveyor where you can make your own routes?
Yep it has.
I have also railworks. And the gameplay is great. There's only not so good graphics. Something they really should improve.
But still I could recommend it.
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can anyone recommend me a train sim with good graphics and simple controls
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Railworks 2 has really good graphics, and I believe there is a option for "simple controls", though I have never used them :doh:
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nice! is there a demo availble?
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Can't see one I am afraid :(
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Can't see one I am afraid :(
:'(
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nice! is there a demo availble?
There's no demo. I'm sorry
Probally there is..?
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nice! is there a demo availble?
Hello Lars,
I found this demo, but it is for the earlier version - Rail Simulator. I have not downloaded it however. Visit this website:-
http://www.gamershell.com/news_43543.html
This video should give you some idea about Railworks 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFbObmOI23E
Regards
vin_sun
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just came back from buying the game :P
Good for you ! :thumbs: Please tell me ..... is it a DVD like SSE where you can install it directly to your computer or you have to use it through Steam ?
Regards
vin_sun
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Railworks 2 is only through Steam...
They have less add-on delays and problems though compared to a certain other simulator though...
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Railworks 2 is only through Steam...
They have less add-on delays and problems though compared to a certain other simulator though...
yah make that steam lol...
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well mine is just dvd like...
Ah! OK .... was just curious 'cos I read this on a website (see attachment)
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Ah! OK .... was just curious 'cos I read this on a website (see attachment)
How you wanna get all the DLC without steam?
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How you wanna get all the DLC without steam?
:doh: My knowledge about Steam versions is almost nil .... so can't really comment ! ;D
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:doh: My knowledge about Steam versions is almost nil .... so can't really comment ! ;D
I don't know aswell. I kinda assumed Railworks is only avalaible by Steam..
Odd..
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You can get a lot of DLC on Steam, and there is something being added practically every week...
(Normally on a Friday, although the past couple of weeks has gone... slightly dry)
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You can get a lot of DLC on Steam, and there is something being added practically every week...
(Normally on a Friday, although the past couple of weeks has gone... slightly dry)
Yeah I know that. That's why I found it odd that you can get Railworks without Steam.
Personally I find they're releasing to much DLC for railworks.. :(
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Hmm not sure about too much
he routes seem short though,
I have both Railworks and MSTS
Railworks I got Portsmouth to Woking; It has a few branchlines coming off, but these are basically just track
MSTS has Portsmouth to Brighton, then up to London, including a alternative route vie Horsham, all are modelled
So MSTS has more, but less detailed graphically, and Railworks has less, but better graphics...
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I have only ever used Trainz, always been very impressed with it, from the screenshots I have seen it has better graphics than the others. The pre-installed routes are fairly limited (although it does include York to KingsX), but there is loads of free content available (admittedly the quality varies a bit).
For me the best part about Trainz is the world editor, the ability to create quite detailed maps from scratch is excellent and again there is an almost endless supply of content which can be downloaded free.
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i also have Trainz 2010. I like it but it skips for me...I think thats becuase i have 3 simulators on one computer but it runs nicely!
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So MSTS has more, but less detailed graphically, and Railworks has less, but better graphics...
Spot on :captain: However the Kicking Horse Pass is detailed plus comes with a high detalied Dash 9 Locomotive, you can even get the demo of the route. All that means is you won't get any fancy stuff but you get the locomotive and route and you can explore the route.It's made by Maple Leaf Tracks.Not sure whrere to find the demo, it use to be available.I still have the EXE file of the Kicking Horse Pass Demo Route in my backups, If anyone wants it I could try uploading it somwhere.
What it looks like roughly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBO6YwUBhxU
Where to grab it from: http://www.mapleleaftracks.com/KHP2/features.html
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I Have Trainz and MSTS ..... i am thinking about gettin Railworks ... but i really want Great easten Main line route since that is what i have for MSTS and ... i have been all the way along that track ... Norwich>London :)
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If your wait a bit then the Auran Trainz will come out in stors, that will be the best ever, bdw you can bay it from the auran stor now http://www.auran.com/shop/display_product.php?PID=362
now also with multi play :2thumbs:
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If your wait a bit then the Auran Trainz will come out in stors, that will be the best ever, bdw you can bay it from the auran stor now http://www.auran.com/shop/display_product.php?PID=362
now also with multi play :2thumbs:
yea im really mad about that. i bought the 2010 version when 2012 was gonna come out with mutliplayer! >:(
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At the moment, all Railworks DLC is 50% off...
and thuis Steam has broken :doh:
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yea im really mad about that. i bought the 2010 version when 2012 was gonna come out with mutliplayer! >:(
i want it :P
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I am not sure how multiplayer would work ::) It will be very chaotic and if people are not carefull there will be a lot of train accidents
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The multyplay work perfect, it's like shipsim, but the red light com when other train are on you line, xings works , it's more and less in real life, if you get a red light you and try to run over it you train stop,side lines will swaths automatic when you need it to pass or you wait on a train, but cos their are sur some lunatics that will try to run the game for others
So it's worth to bay this game
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The multyplay work perfect, it's like shipsim, but the red light com when other train are on you line, xings works , it's more and less in real life, if you get a red light you and try to run over it you train stop,side lines will swaths automatic when you need it to pass or you wait on a train, but cos their are sur some lunatics that will try to run the game for others
So it's worth to bay this game
Intressting ::) :captain:
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yes i will say it worth it
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Railworks 2 is 75% off on STEAM ... :o .... the sale is on for 8 hours ..... Ive borght it :)
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I wish they put the 75% sale on... before I brought some add-ons at 50% though :doh:
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I borght tjhe Portsmouth direct like ... Isle of wight ... class 170 and .... class 86 and the game .. and that worked out cheaper then the game at £22.45 :)
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Nice :)
Portsmouth Direct ;D
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:o
I think i may have just parted with money!!!!
Well i should look on the bright side, it only cost me £12 instead of £50. I bought the West Coast Main Line and Edinburgh - Glasgow route, if only i didn't buy all the others which i already had! I've already got the island line, Glasgow aiport, portsmouth line and class 390....
But thanks for pointing that out Ryan :2thumbs:
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Heehehe, you guy's beat me to it. I was gonna mention that it's madly cheap as well as DLC content, I got it, downloading now, I got the class 37 and I have a few add-ons from Rail Sim but not sure if they will work with Steam version of Rail works 2. The rail sim addons that are compatible with rail works 2 are like .exe files which might not be compatible
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Another Year and it will be downloaded :sleepy:
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Still using MSTS after all these years, since 2001 at least. Have only branched out to Auran's Trainz 2004 and 2006 recently. On Trainz I use it for it's continous loops and automation features. For MSTS I've gotten into German railroads as I lived there for a couple years. Picked up a German copy of MSTS and a route by ProTrain (the Berlin route). That's really the only thing that kept my interest going in MSTS. That and Maple Leaf Tracks.
Trainz, though, is more user friendly on the consists, but MSTS has the better engineer controls of the two and the most free addons. I think by now they should have replicated all railroads, both model and prototype, known to man.
It was also nice to see the large variety of computer games, all types, being sold in German electronics stores. Coming back to America "all computer games are history, unless you want World of Warcraft." That's coming from GameStop, CD TradePost, Best Buy, etc. C'mon, vinyl records are making a comeback but computer games, particularly the simulator, is a dead genre? Target is the only one with the largest inventory of computer games, but I think as far as simulators go, Walmart and Best Buy will sell Flight Sim X. I even went to Toys R Us and they've ditched their computer game inventory. I think I'm living on the wrong continent (and more reasons than just computer games).
Now that I've got Trainz, Trainsim, Flightsim, Shipsim, Vehiclsim, and Sherlock Holmes Sim I'm going to layoff any new sims and games for a while. I've got enough to entertain me for now.
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Still using MSTS after all these years, since 2001 at least. Have only branched out to Auran's Trainz 2004 and 2006 recently. On Trainz I use it for it's continous loops and automation features. For MSTS I've gotten into German railroads as I lived there for a couple years. Picked up a German copy of MSTS and a route by ProTrain (the Berlin route). That's really the only thing that kept my interest going in MSTS. That and Maple Leaf Tracks.
Trainz, though, is more user friendly on the consists, but MSTS has the better engineer controls of the two and the most free addons. I think by now they should have replicated all railroads, both model and prototype, known to man.
It was also nice to see the large variety of computer games, all types, being sold in German electronics stores. Coming back to America "all computer games are history, unless you want World of Warcraft." That's coming from GameStop, CD TradePost, Best Buy, etc. C'mon, vinyl records are making a comeback but computer games, particularly the simulator, is a dead genre? Target is the only one with the largest inventory of computer games, but I think as far as simulators go, Walmart and Best Buy will sell Flight Sim X. I even went to Toys R Us and they've ditched their computer game inventory. I think I'm living on the wrong continent (and more reasons than just computer games).
Now that I've got Trainz, Trainsim, Flightsim, Shipsim, Vehiclsim, and Sherlock Holmes Sim I'm going to layoff any new sims and games for a while. I've got enough to entertain me for now.
what about that other sim....lol
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what about that other sim....lol
Oh there are alot, for instance there is a gardening simulator ;D but that's just one of many
(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/8052/1276424909gartensimulat.jpg)
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Oh there are alot, for instance there is a gardening simulator ;D but that's just one of many
(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/8052/1276424909gartensimulat.jpg)
yes lets just garden on the computer when we could go outside and do it! what has this world come too?
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News fresh in:
http://www.railsimulator.com/microsite_ts2012/index.html
RailWorks 3 - Train Simulator 2012
with free upgrade for existing Railworks 2 users
Looks really impressive
out Sept 27th
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Railworks 2 has really good graphics, and I believe there is a option for "simple controls", though I have never used them :doh:
oh man, I can't stand jagged edges :o ;D
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News fresh in:
http://www.railsimulator.com/microsite_ts2012/index.html
RailWorks 3 - Train Simulator 2012
with free upgrade for existing Railworks 2 users
Looks really impressive
out Sept 27th
Oh YES! free upgrade
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I am not sure why the image went jagged-y - it looks fine in game... :doh:
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Oh YES! free upgrade
;D
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Oh there are alot, for instance there is a gardening simulator ;D but that's just one of many
(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/8052/1276424909gartensimulat.jpg)
Exactly. I about fell over when I saw that in store. There was also Taxi Simulator, City Bus Simulator, Tunnel Simulator, oh, and Tractor Simultor. They had a EuroTruck Simulator and a Garbage Truck Simulator. I'm sure if you can imagine it, someone has simulated it. If I'm correct, Flight Simulator has the most editions, but train simulations have the most varieties.
Garden Simulator. Just wait, there will be "Watch-Paint-Dry Simulator" someday.
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Some more .....
Airport Simulator, Crane Simulator, Skyscraper Simulator, Forklift Simulator, Space Shuttle Simulator, Demolition Simulator, Driving Simulator, Farm Simulator .......
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Some more .....
Airport Simulator, Crane Simulator, Skyscraper Simulator, Forklift Simulator, Space Shuttle Simulator, Demolition Simulator, Driving Simulator, Farm Simulator .......
greets from norway!
heey nothing against landwirtschafts simulator 2011 (farmer sim) and demolition company!