Ship Simulator
English forum => Ship Simulator Extremes => Topic started by: Conflict4ever on September 13, 2010, 10:46:34
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I would like to see the Titanic in SSE, like in SS06 and SS08 becuase i think it's a very important element for the game.
Do you agree with me?
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Hi Conflict4ever
First why is titanic so important to the game ?
Before all the titanic fans start screaming at me she has to be in the game there are allready
enought topics on this so I am not trying to start a post war this is my personal view.
The Titanic was in 2006 I enjoyed the missions with her but that was all
The same in 2008 I played and enjoyed the missions (the one made by marty was exellent)
I as a mission maker found very little to do with titanic regarding missions.
Extremes if she makes it in extremes a lot of people will be happy and I hope this happens for
them I know its what they want.
But my own personal thought is no she is not important to the game at all to me the ships
need to be able to be used sherpa agile solution bugsier for example all ships people want
missions for.
Eric
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Yep Titanic is just good to be sailed on a steady course in the middle of Atlantic, for the rest she is pretty useless (except to kill framerates). However she looks good.
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I would like to see the Titanic in SSE, like in SS06 and SS08 becuase i think it's a very important element for the game.
Do you agree with me?
Yes, I agree. I miss the Titanic and Elbe and all ships in Ship Simulator: New Horizonts.
I have e-mailed V-STEP and they say that the Titanic will come into SSE, but they don't know when. Next spring (2011), I guess!
And I hope that all add-on ships in SS08 will come into SSE, that's why I buy SSE for! For all ships and the new environments!
Regards,
Markus
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Hoy,
I think the same,Titanic is a nice made model,however it is not "more"importent than the other vessels.
My idea would be to bring Titanic as a seporate program,however than you must be able to walk in every room were you wish.
Vstep was on the way to create it because in the very first version there were no stairways to walk in,i just think build it out.
Marc
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Titanic and the ships of her time and past were THE original steam ships. C'mon. They are what gave people the idea of creating the new ugly ships and boats of our century. Titanic has so much importance it's almost magical! Bring her back in a patch or add on!
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I watched several Youtubes before placing my order, according to the sales hype the Titanic should be in SSE
Youtube video, Jan 2010 but interview from August 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAWFnHKIX98
They clearly brag that the "Titanic is back"
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I watched several Youtubes before placing my order, according to the sales hype the Titanic should be in SSE
Youtube video, Jan 2010 but interview from August 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAWFnHKIX98
They clearly brag that the "Titanic is back"
you never know it could come, just because ships are not in the game just now dose not mean they wont im sure there is a very good reason why its not just now :thumbs:
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It has been said several times around here, including by moderators, that she will be returning in Ship Simulator Extremes. It might be a few months, but she will return to her rightful place in the Ship Sim series: As a major gimmick :doh:
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Maybe with a few Easter Egg Modifications? Like Water cannon Cranes, Two collapsible life boats replaced with RHIB's, and maybe an easter egg where she on some occasions turns into a ghost :doh:
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I second the motion!
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SSE will probably be old by then. It'll probably be "ship sim 2013" by then :-S
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I'd lobby for the SS United States. But, if they do an old liner it'll probably be the Titanic as they've already got something to go off of to start with. Still...
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Only reason i bought SSE was because of Titanic, and when i start up it's not even on there...I've played the game for about 20 minutes..
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If any of you guy's forgoten how much the even touched peoples harts, listen to soundtracks, watch the movie, doco's even
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Only reason i bought SSE was because of Titanic, and when i start up it's not even on there...I've played the game for about 20 minutes..
Hi there,
A quick read on the forums would have provided you with the answer. Why did you think she would of been in Extremes?
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Yep Titanic is just good to be sailed on a steady course in the middle of Atlantic, for the rest she is pretty useless (except to kill framerates). However she looks good.
The Titanic is important for two reasons.
1. She is an icon of the Ship Simulator line up.
2. She attracts a great deal of maritime fans and enthusiasts - aka the people who purchase this product.
3. She is a example for new players to learn first-hand in a simulated since how much sailing and maritime operations has changed - she puts all the other ships in the game into a perspective.
Besides, the tug pilots need something to push around. Heh. ;D
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Yes and I need something to cure my insomnia.
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I agree because she is a piece of history.
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Why did you think she would of been in Extremes?
Besides the reasons listed above, I was also told by various mods leading up to the game's release that she "may or may not" be in the game at launch. Then I was told it would take as long as a month for her to be included. Then I was told that she would be the next vessel in the shipyard, after Sigita, that is, that she would be added in (presumably early) 2011. Then I was told she would be added on the centennial of her launch (Yesterday).
I kept on getting told that she would be getting added, and kept on finding postponement ::)
In my case, too, Titanic was the primary reason I bought Ship Simulator Extremes. I am still waiting here for her, and wondering what the latest developments on her are.
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Same here, when I saw her in the distance, could not believe my eye
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Can we get an official word from VSTEP on her progress, to put all of this gossip to rest?
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Hi there,
A quick read on the forums would have provided you with the answer. Why did you think she would of been in Extremes?
Cause she had been on the previous games. Why wouldent she be on Extremes?
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Besides the reasons listed above, I was also told by various mods leading up to the game's release that she "may or may not" be in the game at launch. Then I was told it would take as long as a month for her to be included. Then I was told that she would be the next vessel in the shipyard, after Sigita, that is, that she would be added in (presumably early) 2011. Then I was told she would be added on the centennial of her launch (Yesterday).
I kept on getting told that she would be getting added, and kept on finding postponement ::)
In my case, too, Titanic was the primary reason I bought Ship Simulator Extremes. I am still waiting here for her, and wondering what the latest developments on her are.
Nuff said
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Besides the reasons listed above, I was also told by various mods leading up to the game's release that she "may or may not" be in the game at launch. Then I was told it would take as long as a month for her to be included. Then I was told that she would be the next vessel in the shipyard, after Sigita, that is, that she would be added in (presumably early) 2011. Then I was told she would be added on the centennial of her launch (Yesterday).
I kept on getting told that she would be getting added, and kept on finding postponement ::)
In my case, too, Titanic was the primary reason I bought Ship Simulator Extremes. I am still waiting here for her, and wondering what the latest developments on her are.
RMS Gigantic,
As I said before, buying a game just because the chances of a certain ship 'might' make it into the game is not justified. The game has much more to do, and VSTEP NEVER mentioned that the Titanic was going to be in the game from release. Buying it on the off-chance is a silly thing to do.
You already have SS08 with Titanic, so why not go and play that?
Also, I don't recall a mod ever saying that the Titanic was ever to make it into the game yesterday (please feel free to post the quote saying so). Until VSTEP actually announces that the Titanic WILL be in Extremes, the better solution would be to assume it will not make it.
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Capt. Spencer, I think we all know that sse will be long buried and replaced with a new game at £40 before tita....zzzz is even modelled (even IF vstep want it).
They can make more money in re-making the game at £40 than the model of £20 for 5 ships or whatever.
Me a cynic?
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It was foolish for anyone to buy SSE solely to get Titanic.
There was never any statement from a responsible person on this forum that Titanic would be in the release. Instead there were statements cautioning that there was a strong possibility that she would not be in the release.
There was never anything but a vague suggestion that “Titanic will be back†in a video interview. I doubt that was intended to be anything but a Kathleen Mavourneen.
The reasons why the decision was made—many months before release—that she would not be in the release, and why it is still uncertain when—or if—she will return have been stated before:
1. The difficulty in getting her—or any ship—to behave properly in the new sea model.
2. The very high poly count that was a severe problem even in SS2008 and was a greater problem in light of the performance problems with the added features in SSE.
3. Jason wanted time to make improvements in his model.
That last one is, I believe, still a controlling factor.
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In case anyone's wondering; what's a Kathleen Mavourneen ? A famous line from one of her songs is:
"It may be for years, and it may be forever"..
btw: a Kathleen Mavourneen loan means: a loan which may not be repaid for years, if ever.. ;D
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A famous Dutch lass was Katy…
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How about the SS United States in the game..?
DVO has already made an excellent model.. :)
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vstep have made (either deliberate or by poor design) it overly complicated to get any 'ship' in the game.
Simple as that. The fact that this is on its THIRD main incarnation and still this fundamental point has not been addressed suggests to me that vstep has a profoundly poor grasp on the mass market model.
No offence to them- their professional stuff seems pretty good, but their mass market games are totally flawed; they have failed to understand what people want out of this *GAME*.
Clue: It is a GAME and not a simulator; thus people want flashy images and not 100% lifelike handling (to those professional mariners I ask, is driving a computer REALLY a simulation of reality?)
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In essence, driving a computer is not a simulation of anything (except driving a computer)
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What we really need instead, is the SS NOMADIC with a big strong white star line flag since the Titanic is proven to be such a hand full. Now the good news is that the ship is fully modeled by someone but the only thing is stopping her from being put in SSE is permition from those evil little people who never bother to reply back, if only I remember what the topic was ???
ahh wait, here it is, dusted off
http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php/topic,12842.0.html
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What we really need instead
I can think of a dozen things which we really need. ::)
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You already have SS08 with Titanic, so why not go and play that?
From my view, that seems to be questioning why buy SSE at all. And I mean, ignoring Titanic, and substituting in any factor, that comes off to me as analogical to saying, for example, "You can simulate ships in Ship Simulator 2008. Why get Ship Simulator Extremes?"
Also, I don't recall a mod ever saying that the Titanic was ever to make it into the game yesterday (please feel free to post the quote saying so).
It was not on the forums, but in SSE multiplayer sometime last year, where a moderator had mentioned May 31. Though Mad Fred later dismissed that claim in a PM.
I do, however, have a screencap (pardon the excess space) of a PM where I was told that she would be released sometime this year....
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d89/YOSHINUT/TitanicWordFromTJK.jpg)
Sure, it's TJK, but still, his forum rank was above average enough where I had believed him at the time ::)
Until VSTEP actually announces that the Titanic WILL be in Extremes, the better solution would be to assume it will not make it.
I took http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAWFnHKIX98&t=5m13s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAWFnHKIX98&t=5m13s) and http://www.gamesradar.com/pc/ship-simulator-extremes/screenshots/g-2009082012622463006/pic-00AE63AF-7FCA-4825-9445-B95E4DFC6702 (http://www.gamesradar.com/pc/ship-simulator-extremes/screenshots/g-2009082012622463006/pic-00AE63AF-7FCA-4825-9445-B95E4DFC6702) to mean that VSTEP was announcing her return ::) And to those of you who say that those are old pictures and interviews, it's still more word than some vessels that did appear in the game ever received!
The reasons why the decision was made—many months before release—that she would not be in the release, and why it is still uncertain when—or if—she will return have been stated before:
1. The difficulty in getting her—or any ship—to behave properly in the new sea model.
2. The very high poly count that was a severe problem even in SS2008 and was a greater problem in light of the performance problems with the added features in SSE.
3. Jason wanted time to make improvements in his model.
That last one is, I believe, still a controlling factor.
Thank you for that. At least now I know what's going on! Glad to hear that the controlling factor is what it is ;D
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Yeah, If we know what's going on we'd be complaining less ::), it feels like were left out in the rain. Every game company keeps players up today with any changes or why some things are the way they are at the momment
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Maybe Swenson or Frank or someone else from VSTEP could come in and put this to rest...? !:)
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If you look at the name of the starter of this topic, it says why they might think “putting it to rest†would be a hopeless task.
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If you look at the name of the starter of this topic, it says why they might think “putting it to rest†would be a hopeless task.
Oh yes... :doh:
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i did not buy it for that i brought it because i liked the dover env i the new ship i dont mind titanic but its a bit slow to pilot and there is no terminal for her.
It was foolish for anyone to buy SSE solely to get Titanic.
There was never any statement from a responsible person on this forum that Titanic would be in the release. Instead there were statements cautioning that there was a strong possibility that she would not be in the release.
There was never anything but a vague suggestion that “Titanic will be back†in a video interview. I doubt that was intended to be anything but a Kathleen Mavourneen.
The reasons why the decision was made—many months before release—that she would not be in the release, and why it is still uncertain when—or if—she will return have been stated before:
1. The difficulty in getting her—or any ship—to behave properly in the new sea model.
2. The very high poly count that was a severe problem even in SS2008 and was a greater problem in light of the performance problems with the added features in SSE.
3. Jason wanted time to make improvements in his model.
That last one is, I believe, still a controlling factor.
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In essence, driving a computer is not a simulation of anything (except driving a computer)
Technically thus referred to as an 'emulator'
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Yeah, If we know what's going on we'd be complaining less ::), it feels like were left out in the rain. Every game company keeps players up today with any changes or why some things are the way they are at the momment
Errr... how did you come to that conclusion? It has been made clear on several occasions about the status of Titanic as Marty said above.
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Errr... how did you come to that conclusion? It has been made clear on several occasions about the status of Titanic as Marty said above.
Yes...
STATUS: SANK 1912
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what about titanic as an AI ship?
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To be honest...
I think I would prefer the SS Rotterdam... :evil:
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what about titanic as an AI ship?
To be honest...
I think I would prefer the SS Rotterdam... :evil:
I think I would prefer slashing my wrists
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That would be... painful me thinks :doh:
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That would be... painful me thinks :doh:
Not as painful as thinking of that dull ship...
It isn't the ship so much that's the problem but that damned film "tit..............zzzz"
Where the young kid, what's his name- jack or something- stands at the bow screaming "woo wooo wooooo wo I'm the king of the world w00 w000 w00000 wo" So damned irritating.
Yes, I think it's his poor acting skills that destroyed that (already) dull film.
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Well it was a film you already knew the ending to...
essentially you were watching a film knowing you were about to witness the deaths of over 1000 people :doh:
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The only good bit was when jack carked it and thus stopped going "woo wooo woooo wo"
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The only good bit was when jack carked it and thus stopped going "woo wooo woooo wo"
And even that gets ruined by the fact that his playmate lives to spread her lies!
Stu, I think we found some common ground here ;D
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Yep!
I'll leave off your ship and concentrate just on the film- the root of all evil. I can not stand that film- 3 flaming hours I sat in a darkened room watching that, waiting for something interesting to happen.
Special effects aren't all that great. Day to Remember and SOS Titanic were better (the other David Warner (that's his name isn't it???) film where he was a reporter- that was lower quality effects but MUCH more believable)
EDIT: Changing name to DAVID Warner... Jack Warner was certainly not in that dull, dull film.
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And my main beef with it is that everywhere I go, people ask me if Gloria Stuart was a Titanic survivor, or try to tell me that the film is based on a true story ::)
Furthermore, I have a hypothesis that every sixty seconds of that movie will include at least one factual or historical error.
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And my main beef with it is that everywhere I go, people ask me if Gloria Stuart was a Titanic survivor, or try to tell me that the film is based on a true story ::)
Furthermore, I have a hypothesis that every sixty seconds of that movie will include at least one factual or historical error.
1. Who is Gloria Stuart?
2. I think you're being TOO generous there.
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1. Who is Gloria Stuart?
2. I think you're being TOO generous there.
1) The woman who played "Old Rose"
2) I want to give myself a buffer in case a technicality comes in on a shot or two, but you are probably right.
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Furthermore, I have a hypothesis that every sixty seconds of that movie will include at least one factual or historical error.
The colo(u)r of the well decks in the Titanic movie (1997) also turned out to be wrong. ::)
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The colo(u)r of the well decks in the Titanic movie (1997) also turned out to be wrong. ::)
The first shot of the movie after the credits, where the submersibles dive down, in inaccurate because (1) submersibles keep their lights off when diving to conserve power and (2) Submersibles are launched 30 minutes or so apart; having them dive together as shown in the film is flat out dangerous!
Also, the submersibles in the film are FAR more spacious than the real deals!
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I think the film was all wrong as it was actually Olympic in a big insurance scam! :evil:
To think- some people even believed that story!
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I think the film was all wrong as it was actually Olympic in a big insurance scam! :evil:
To think- some people even believed that story!
And then there's Louise Patten's claim....
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And then there's Louise Patten's claim....
The claim was that lady pattens book was actually worth reading and not total and utter inexcusable bull***t. fit only for burning.
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The claim was that lady pattens book was actually worth reading and not total and utter inexcusable bull***t. fit only for burning.
Along with James Cameron's movie, and perhaps even the man himself.
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How about the SS United States in the game..?
DVO has already made an excellent model.. :)
i bought that ship
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TITANIC TITANIC TITANIC TITANIC FOREVER FOREVER FOREVER FOREVER :2thumbs: :captain:
- CLAYTON1
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TITANIC TITANIC TITANIC TITANIC FOREVER FOREVER FOREVER FOREVER :2thumbs: :captain:
- CLAYTON1
What a useful post... I think I have gone deaf too...
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What a useful post... I think I have gone deaf too...
Better being deaf than stupid, as the case with clayton1
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Better being deaf than stupid, as the case with clayton1
i dont think we should call anyone stupid
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i dont think we should call anyone stupid
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