Ship Simulator

English forum => Ship Simulator Extremes => Topic started by: Aad The Pirate on August 30, 2010, 18:44:46

Title: Thank You !
Post by: Aad The Pirate on August 30, 2010, 18:44:46: Ahoy Ship(sim)mates.
After sailing around with the new sim for a few hours I've had it. Yes, I'm really fed up with all those Nag-Nag-Nag to the address of VSTEP.
In spite of the problems about the new Simulator like late delivery (who's to blame? Not VSTEP) the STEAM problems and the minor buggies inside the game I can't do anything but to say one thing on the address of VSTEP:
THANK YOU !!
:2thumbs: for an awsome Ship Simulator. :2thumbs:

I hope that a lot of the members around here agree with me and show their gratitude right here.
Kind Regards
Aad a very happy Pirate
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: Chitch on August 30, 2010, 19:04:41: I concur with your statement 100%....very nice sim, great graphics, good physics (used to the old iffy ones from SS08 - ships don't turn on a dime like they did in 08 :lol:).

Overall, I think it's a really good sim, and considering all the things that VSTEP has to juggle to get the sim to perform properly....I'm kinda amazed they got it out as soon as they did.

Jim
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: saltydog on August 30, 2010, 19:13:19: Hear hear ! Compliments to the VStep team for a job well done.. :thumbs:
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Post by: Roger on August 30, 2010, 20:15:23: Absolute agree to Aad Piraat!
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: Aad The Pirate on August 30, 2010, 20:21:26: Come on, boys and gals.
84 views till know and just 3 comments? That can't be true.
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: danny on August 30, 2010, 20:22:53: a toast to Vstep!
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Post by: Cpt. Simmo on August 31, 2010, 10:17:04: WELL DONE VSTEP! Awesome simulator. ;D Sure its got a few small bugs, but thats what patches are for!
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: Carl ov plymouth on August 31, 2010, 10:28:09: I can not understand why you all think it's an "Awesome simulator" I think ss08 is better than this junk, I mean, danny you are having a toast to Vstep but yet "still not able to play SSE....
(paradox boxed edition)" Are you nuts? how can you be celebrating something that doesn't work?

Who do I have to speak to or contact to get my money back as in my eyes I have been sold something that doesn't work!
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: marcstrat on August 31, 2010, 10:39:26: I'm very much pleased with the SSE,much better graphics,more ships and good detailed,specialy that pilotboat.
It looks close to real. :thumbs:
However,the game need some patches to do the repairs.I'm pretty sure that Vstep is very much involved,and will repair the bugs & errors in time. :thumbs:
Overall, i say again,i'm very pleased. :2thumbs:
Vstep did do a very good job so far!!!! :2thumbs:
Marc
:2thumbs: :captain: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: danny on August 31, 2010, 11:00:31: Quote from: Carl ov plymouth on August 31, 2010, 10:28:09
I can not understand why you all think it's an "Awesome simulator" I think ss08 is better than this junk, I mean, danny you are having a toast to Vstep but yet "still not able to play SSE....
(paradox boxed edition)" Are you nuts? how can you be celebrating something that doesn't work?

from the videos and pictures i've seen, and the ocean were the menu should be, this game is one heck of a step up from SS2008, and yes, i'm slighty "nuts" :P
sorry to here the game didn't work,
Vstep:
Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: kiwikid on August 31, 2010, 11:10:31: ;D
I received my copy of Extremes this afternoon and have just installed it , plus the update, and the bonus craft.
Vastly different from previous versions, and will take a bit of getting used to.
Would like to add to other comments and say a big THANK YOU to the developers. I might have to stock up on mal-de-mer pills, as the graphics are rather awesome.

Regards, Benjamin.
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: Team Namami on August 31, 2010, 12:17:45: Quote from: Carl ov plymouth on August 31, 2010, 10:28:09
I can not understand why you all think it's an "Awesome simulator" I think ss08 is better than this junk, I mean, danny you are having a toast to Vstep but yet "still not able to play SSE....
(paradox boxed edition)" Are you nuts? how can you be celebrating something that doesn't work?

Who do I have to speak to or contact to get my money back as in my eyes I have been sold something that doesn't work!
Indeed.
Well, yes. The activation key problem during the installation has been solved, but how come the game won't start? No matter how many times I hit "start" button, the steam system shows this 'unable to connect key server' message and won't let me play. How do I solve this? Do I have to wait for another few days to get fixed or what? ???
It was much better in the past versions when all of us were able to install and start the game in like 10 minutes or so...
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: jim.smith on August 31, 2010, 12:27:35: 100% agree with you Aad,no problems on instalation,enjoying the missions a few things missing but I'm sure VSTEP will overcome this and also a big thank you to VSTEP from me. :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: Aad The Pirate on August 31, 2010, 14:58:38: Quote from: Team Namami on August 31, 2010, 12:17:45
Indeed.
Well, yes. The activation key problem during the installation has been solved, but how come the game won't start? No matter how many times I hit "start" button, the steam system shows this 'unable to connect key server' message and won't let me play. How do I solve this? Do I have to wait for another few days to get fixed or what? ???
It was much better in the past versions when all of us were able to install and start the game in like 10 minutes or so...
Ahoy Team Namami,
Although I respect your opinion, but your problem has nothing, and really nothing to do with VSTEP. In this case it's all to blame to Paradox/STEAM
Thank You Very Much !
Regards
Aad a very happy Pirate
P.S.

Maybe registering your copy here in the Forum in Your Profile would help!?
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: david payne on August 31, 2010, 15:16:30: i would like to thank V-STEP in recktafieing the problem whit why i dont have my copy of SSE but that has now been sorted :2thumbs: :2thumbs: So thank you V-STEP and look forward to playing the best game on the market :captain:
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Post by: huang yu po peter on August 31, 2010, 15:23:34: A few glitches and missing features that will be patched for free and nothing prevents me from rating SSE 100%
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: thassos on September 01, 2010, 09:53:05: I haven't had my game yet but the first thing I will do if it "doesn't work" is check the muscle of my computer and how much memory is not being used by other processes........ Just a suggestion - it's going to require a lot of RAM.
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on September 01, 2010, 12:19:12: The game itself is an excellent platform that I think has a lot of potential...with the upcoming patches and buoys, I think it will make a very nice game. But I still have mixed feelings at the moment!

Jack.
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: Aad The Pirate on September 01, 2010, 12:32:38: Quote from: IRI5HJ4CK on September 01, 2010, 12:19:12
The game itself is an excellent platform that I think has a lot of potential...with the upcoming patches and buoys, I think it will make a very nice game. But I still have mixed feelings at the moment!

Jack.
Ahoy Jack
For just that reason I added the Voting-Option "Not Yet" amongst the others in the Poll. :)
Kind Regards
Aad the very happy Pirate
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: Aad The Pirate on September 09, 2010, 14:59:45: Quote from: Aad The Pirate on August 30, 2010, 20:21:26
Come on, boys and gals.
84 views till know and just 3 comments? That can't be true.
The counter, after 10 days, reads 619 views, 75 votes, 19 replies (including mine).
A bit more enthousiasm, please.
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: goodles on September 14, 2010, 15:51:49: i agree a massive thank you love the game!
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: Stuart2007 on September 14, 2010, 17:31:25: I still stand by the idea that an unfinished product should not be on sale (or 'sail'). However, I live in the real world and accept that without revenue from sales future editions won't ever happen.

So whilst I am not really impressed by another unfinished product, I will support it by buying it and hope that in future vstep finishes products before release. Somehow I doubt the unpopular steam will be permitted to infect installations in future events.

So I have a choice, either wait until I'm next in Europe and buy a boxed copy or wait until the broadband is working (again) before downloading... decisions.
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: pigdog on September 14, 2010, 17:57:22: Well I bit the bullit and purchased the boxed version even after reading all the problems people were having, I installed it no problem but can't really see the benefit yet as I need to upgrade my graphics card but it does look promising, at least my ship controls work as they are supposed to now (on some ships).

We did go through similar problems when SS06 and 08 first came out so I'm not too worried it will get better with time it's a bigger leap forward in the series so far but that doesn't excuse the fiasco some people are experiencing.

I'm in the "I don't know yet" group I just hope it's worth the price of the game plus the extra 80 odd quid for a new graphics card!

Pigdog
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: Oasis on September 14, 2010, 18:46:55: You guys can toast away and celebrate playing a glitchy, unfinished product. I'll be sailing the same thing nearly litterally, I almost have all the same ships as SSE, almost all the same harbours and areas, and no lag what so ever in SS08.
What? You going to tell me that SSE has major improvements over SS08? Can I ask like? (Other than ships and different playable areas) SS08 has Multiplayer/Missions/Free Roam.

And before you say the water textures are better, doesn't really bother me, I don't hold a class of water up and go "o my word, my glass of water is more clear than yours!" if it's blue and looks like water, im happy and I think SS08 does just that, nor should I have to pay Â£24 (which I did) to just get a water texture improvement (it should be launched as a patch/update), and you can't say the dynamics are better, from what i've seen on the forums, the minute your ship hits the wall in any harbour it sinks, so that can't be 'better/improvement' can it.

I have nothing to celebrate in SSE, when I got it I litterally just said to myself "SS08 in another box"

This is just my opinion, and I agree that everyone has their own.

Oasis
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: goodles on September 14, 2010, 18:58:52: SSE is far better, with improved graphics even from what SS08 has

new boats, and improvements to boats from SS08

Still has Multiplayer/Missions/Free Roam like SS08

glitchy and unfinished I have not seen that at all
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: Stuart2007 on September 14, 2010, 20:19:29: Oasis, then USE 08 and leave sse players to enjoy it in blissful ignorance... ;)
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: saltydog on September 14, 2010, 22:10:08: How nice to have our first Extremes poll.. ;D
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: Oasis on September 14, 2010, 22:13:18: Quote from: Stuart2007 on September 14, 2010, 20:19:29
Oasis, then USE 08 and leave sse players to enjoy it in blissful ignorance... ;)

Then where would that lead to? Turn your back and make out that SSE is perfect to VSTEP?
Yes probably the majority of SSE's users have no problem's with it, but if there isn't dislike, then how can it be improved, if your 100% happy with it, then why does there need to be another service pack / expansion, when you have just said that the game is perfect as it is? Why a V1.1? When V1.0 was perfect, as I saw people saying when it was launched?

Let's look at the example from Flight Simulator, FSX gets launched, yeah you had some players who LOVED it, "it's perfect..." "you can't get much better than this", then you had the other players who went back to FS9, who did Microsoft listen to? FS9'ers and launched two service packs for it.

Or another example, SSE gets launched, people angry about the STEAM version not working, VSTEP launch an update to fix it.

Without the negative, you can't get a positive.

No one wants Ship Simulator to do badly, nor VSTEP, I bet the people who work there are lovely guys and girls. It's not like they wanted to launch a glitchy game. But without the negative feedback, without the users demanding for fixes and dislikes, then how can the game improve? Get Fixed?

When I say SS08 is better, it's because to me, in my opinion a better game at this current time as I cannot find Â£24 worth of better improvements and updates to that of SS08, and for the love of word how many times did I post along the lines of "The only different is there's a couple more ships in SSE, compared to SS08" and the first person to reply, writes exactly what I had just said ::)

I would rather have 100 people writing negative feedback on the forums and then get a service pack to fix most of the problems, than 100 Ship Simulator fanboys, cursing and striking lighting at you if you dare say anything against it and celebrating it.

And no matter how you put it, nor how you describe it, there are bugs and glitches in game, there is lag in game and these things need to be fixed.

Thank you for reading,

Oasis
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: saltydog on September 14, 2010, 22:17:36: Moaning doesn't really help much..
Here's a topic where you can post your complaints..http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php/topic,20128.0.html
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: Oasis on September 14, 2010, 22:24:08: Quote from: saltydog on September 14, 2010, 22:17:36
Moaning doesn't really help much..
Here's a topic where you can post your complaints..http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php/topic,20128.0.html

Thank you for reading none of what I had just put, man your helpful.

I wouldnt be moaning as you put it, but so far from the results of the poll, there are clearly more "No Way" "Alright" people, than "Yes" almost double in fact.

So before you push me aside, and think your some what better than me, or have a right to tell me were to litterally 'jog off' I am speaking from looking at the evidence, and if you want that evidence you just to look in the SSE sub-forum, not even that, this topic to see people are not happy with SSE.

Oasis
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: The Ferry Man on September 14, 2010, 22:26:03: Yes, but VSTEP know that it needs improving - a patch is already underway...

what more do you want them to do?

Edit: And no one has claimed the game is perfect either
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: Oasis on September 14, 2010, 22:36:50: Quote from: The Ferry Man on September 14, 2010, 22:26:03
Yes, but VSTEP know that it needs improving - a patch is already underway...

what more do you want them to do?

Edit: And no one has claimed the game is perfect either

I know that, but then that leaves me with two questions, why launch a game if VSTEP already knew it had bugs and glitches? And two, they say a patch, but a patch to fix what? Could be anything? Make the water look darker? Make the sky look brighter?

What are they fixing?

I think you guys get the wrong end of the stick I am trying to say, I just want VSTEP to be a bit more open. An apology would be nice, I've spent my good earned money on a game that by what you are saying, the developers already knew had problems in it.

I am not a hater of the game, I don't want to have an agurement with people on here who post tips, help me out a lot when I get into problems, make me laugh etc... I really hope SSE become's a milestone in Ship Simulator History in the long term, the Dover port is beautiful.

I just want VSTEP to admit that they have done wrong, and say "Were going to start fixing this, this and this..." so I know that when I install SSE again, I can play it at it's true protenial.

Now I think I have to say an apology as well, I am deeply sorry to anyone who has read my posts and disagree's with it, or finds it rude. It was not my intention to start an agurement or moan, but just to say I want this to be changed.

I totally started my posts wrong, in an aggressive mood and for that I am sorry.

Thank you for reading,

Oasis
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: saltydog on September 14, 2010, 22:47:17: Perhaps the game was released too soon, perhaps there were reasons we don't know about for that..
As far as I'm concerned, it's water under the bridge.. It is here, imperfect as it may be..
All we can do is try to make it better with constructive criticism..
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: Aad The Pirate on September 14, 2010, 23:37:28: Quote from: saltydog on September 14, 2010, 22:47:17
Perhaps the game was released too soon, perhaps there were reasons we don't know about for that..
As far as I'm concerned, it's water under the bridge.. It is here, imperfect as it may be..
All we can do is try to make it better with constructive criticism..
I totally agree with that, how could i not? And to Oasis I would say: If you are so displeased with SSE, why not put it away, unregister your copy from your profile, and please, stop to annoy us with the same complaints over and over again.
Tnx for understanding (I hope).
Regards
Aad
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: Oasis on September 14, 2010, 23:49:19: Quote from: Aad The Pirate on September 14, 2010, 23:37:28
I totally agree with that, how could i not? And to Oasis I would say: If you are so displeased with SSE, why not put it away, unregister your copy from your profile, and please, stop to annoy us with the same complaints over and over again.
Tnx for understanding (I hope).
Regards
Aad

Look, I said sorry, what more do you ******** want? Seriously, you make out like im some sort of a ****, which I find highly disrespectful. I have every right (as you do) to share my opinion on these forums about a game in which I brought.

I was clearly putting my opinion into a detailed respone, instead of just going "its rubbish".

I've installed Ship Simulator Extremes again and actually liking it, and would agree with you that, and say thanks to VSTEP, I see many improvements over SS08. It really is a nice sim, and enjoying the greenpeace missions alot. What I don't like, is when I get a person like you who thinks they can treat me as a 3 year old idiot.

Like I said, im sorry for "hijacking" your thread and posting negative things, it was stupid of me to do, but to write like that in that manner I find very low, and go's to show how much respect you have to a fellow Ship Sim user.

Good Day,

Oasis

Removed bad language, please try to use normal words. :o

Traddles.
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: JHB on September 15, 2010, 11:02:14: Quote from: The Ferry Man on September 14, 2010, 22:26:03

what more do you want them to do?

Add more simulation - that's what VSTEP should do. Some even call this simulator a "screen saver" (well, the graphics look good...and..?).

For now, I'm not a part of the fanboy-league here that some might think, and I don't really understand why some are so harsh to negative feedback? I suppose that some easily forget that we are customers, we are paying real money for something, and we don't want to be cheated.
Now, cheated is a strong word and I don't feel myself cheated in this case, but very close to this, because I thought that Extremes was a big step ahead from the previous version, especially on the part called simulation-

It is great that some continues to compare SS with FSX..in fact, if we look at the horizon trough time, the goal for VSTEP would be to develop a soft version of a professional simulator, as much as Microsoft took the step to develop a soft version of a professional flight simulator. "So far so good"...but..

The way I see it for now, is that VSTEP skips the simulation parts and throws it in a pro version and tell us to pay a great price for that one, a version that is not made for this group for customers, but for so called "professional training". But don't get me wrong here, because I don't want VSTEP to just throw a pro version in our faces and tell us "hey, there you go.. pro-version for reduced price". I just know that FSX doesn't cost as much as Nautis, and FSX mostly got it all (generally spoken).

On the optimistic side, there where so many expectations, wishes and demands for this simulator before Extremes, that if they keep this wheel spinning, we might end up with a great simulation product over time.
Anyway, on the other hand, the attention may fall a lot if VSTEP just makes some minor changes from version to version and hypes it sky-high to draw a lot of attention on a new version. I mean, what where you thinking first time when you heard the tittle "EXTREMES"?

Some might call this version "a flaw", and I'm almost one of those. There are dozens of suggestions about new features that was suggested by users of Ship Simulator 2008 far before the development of Extremes was announced. Before it was delayed people where almost going crazy just to get a view of what was coming. Now the whole thing is released. There where also some complaining about the activity at this board..oh yeah. Well..did Extremes change the activity? Sure...at the first day of release. But over time? Probably not..

Some may call this a rant, others may call it trolling, and others again may call it moaning. Whatever it is, it's what that must be written by those who pay the price for a product. A company that makes a product got to deal with their customers, whatever the customer might say about the product, good or bad. There is no room to improve a product if there is no room for product reviews.

So for this time, I'll say "Thank you VSTEP. Hello VSTEP???" (and that doesn't mean that the world is falling a part). It's just another regular customer that will think twice next time VSTEP got another "extremes" version under development. I'm not so impressed of what VSTEP made this time, some may just call it "a screen saver" and I agree with that. It's eye candy, visually perfect but badly simulated. Those are the words of how I see Extremes, and I'm probably not the one.

Well, keep on rocking.. :P

(And to fanboys..please don't claim this place as only yours. It may get a little bit overheated from time to time . Kudos to the mods ;))
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: mvsmith on September 15, 2010, 13:04:54: Hi JHB,

I agree that SSE seems to have shifted somewhat away from simulation, and toward the â€œgamerâ€ end of the spectrum, at least as far as the supplied missions go. I hope that after the ME is released we will see more challenging and rational missions from the experienced SS 2008 creators. The mission and logic editors show real potential.

As for ship behavior and handling, itâ€™s a mixed bag that can be expected to improve with time. Adapting existing ships to operate in the new sea has been a daunting task. The new controls need refinement in some cases. One problem for many is simply that things are different.
I have seen complaints about the â€œslow responseâ€ to changes in rudder or throttle. I think you would agree that it is one move in the simulation direction.

There are some features missing that would have been useful, such as a sighting compass or pelorus.
On the whole, the new architecture has promise of delivering more simulation, if the main potential market is perceived to lie in that direction.

Thanks for your thoughtful criticism, delivered without rancor. I think that the plethora of vituperative rants has, perhaps, over sensitized us to criticism.

Regards,
Marty
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: BigBravo21 on September 15, 2010, 16:09:18: I think lack of AI traffic in Free Roam is a major omission and kind of takes the shine off it for me......
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: osterob on September 15, 2010, 18:25:05: I'm happy with what I have so far and I'm one of the fortunate ones that hasn't had any problems running SSE so far, knock on wood.

I do feel that the product we currently have is by no means a simulation but more a game. The ME may help get some of that simulator atmosphere back. In my opinion, until and if VSTEP implements some of the feature requests such as a more detailed bridge, AI traffic, and buoys and markers, only then it will deserve the word
simulator that is in its name.

With that said, so far I'm happy with what I've got so far. I don't feel cheated but I do feel a little disappointed. I think in time, with right amount of attention from VSTEP, it has the potential to surpass what we've seen and played so far.
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: Chitch on September 15, 2010, 21:49:19: Yeah, but "Ship Game Extremes" is kind of clunky to say :doh: ;D ;)

Jim
Title: Re: Thank You !
Post by: Aad The Pirate on September 15, 2010, 22:21:27: In time we all will see who's right and who's wrong. For the time beeing I say: SS Extremes is as good as it possible could be in the short time the developers hat to give it to the publishers. Sure, I also see the glitches, buggies, wrong colours etc. etc. But all will be OK with one ore more patches.