Ship Simulator
English forum => Ship Simulator Extremes => General discussions => Topic started by: austin14 on August 29, 2010, 05:06:50
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im trying to decide on a card to upgrade to that will run SSE because my current 9800GTX+ isnt gonna cut it at 17-20 fps.
im fixing to get a little bit of money for my birthday and im thinking about this bad boy..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=14-130-549&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Page=6#scrollFullInfo
would this be able to handle SSE nicely?
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Oh yes, should be perfectly in order! :thumbs:
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how well do you think itl run?
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Well, there's more to it than just a graphics card..
But this card should be able to handle everything SSE can throw at it.
But I can't say how it will do for you specifically, it also depends on the rest of your hardware and in how you run your machine. (sofware use.. keeping drivers up to date.. keeping it 'clean' )
Fred
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yea. i need more ram i only have 2gb xp. but my cpu is a core 2 duo e8400 3.0ghz and can handle most newer games well. but i realize that SSE is very demanding of a good card
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Yep a little more ram might not hurt, even though you do have the minimum required ammount.. If you can double that, you can run it perfectly... But even like this, it should be fine too, since you already get reasonable performance.
Again, it's always a bit 'theorethical' untill you actual try, ofcourse. It might well perform better than expected with 2GB of RAM. The graphics card is more important.
Fred.
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well i only have 32bit os and im planning on purchasing 4 GB sometime here pretty soon. even though itl only use 3.25GB...
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Ah yeah, I see.
Well it's still quite an increase, compared to 2. It might just make the difference between almost full-out and full-out. ;D
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yea this card will put a hole in my pocket. so ram might have to wait. but this card does have 1GB
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;D
Yup.. maybe you'll find out that you dont need ram yet, and that it will do enough good on it's own. :thumbs:
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That's quite weird. Because when it actually worked for me I got more then 17-20 fps. I got 25-30 on a standard 9800 GT with a Intel Core Duo 2 3.30 GHZ and 3 GB DDR3 Ram.
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well there are times when it goes up to 30. but itl drop down to 17 and when it does i dont like it.
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Wouldnt really expect to much , going by the core/memory speed its lower then my Ati 5770 and my ATI 5770 runs around 15-20fps on medium/high settings.
Then again it could be my cpu which is a dualcore 3.16ghz.
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A gtx 460 is almost as good as the 470, and it has a huge overclocking potentional, from 700 stock to 800+ mHz easy! :)
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Like overclocking 100mhz on your memory or gpu is going to make such a difference.
You probably gain 5 or 10 fps at best at the cost of artifacts and a burned out vid card.
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It wont burnout if your box has enough fans and overall has an ok temperature, if that's not the case, you may not overclock more than 50 mHz, if overclock at all.
And 10 fps for free is not bad ;)
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Yes, you might want to take a look at the new GTX 460, which is excellent "bang for bucks".. :)
edit: Just a suggestion, it's your party.. ;)
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Buying a vid card for a game which is still is in his beta state is pretty stupid.
There are plenty of problem with performance which can be either the bad support for vid card or perhapse something different.
So would be best to wait a bit before upgrading something in your system just for this awfull release of a game.
A 9800gtx for example should be more then able to run this game.
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Daisai what are you talking about?
The game is now released, there is no BETA version now. There will undoubtably be more patches for the game, but the game is in the final release.
Besides, Austin has already reported that he gets about 17 frames per second, which is more than what I can say! :)
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btw im getiing a 470 not a 460 ;)
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btw im getiing a 470 not a 460 ;)
just a thought. you could get the 465. i read somewhere that the out preformed the 470.
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No it doesn't, it's a very bad card, the gtx 460 is better than the 465 and cheaper, and the 470 is better than the 460.
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The most important when buying a new video card is to make sure it has plenty of memory for the graphics. F.ex 1Gb may not be the truth, look at it's specs and make sure it's dedicated memory.
My card is far from top end but I always have 30-40 fps in SSE, and the game runs very well because it has 1,5Gb of dedicated display memory. So keep this in mind.
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465 is the "worst"
460 gives you lot of power for a modest sum
470 is better than the previous ones but also more expensive
480 is the best but also most expensive
I have the 470 and it's a beast when it comes to games, if you gonna SLI I would recommend two 460's thou
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no sli i dont have the money for that. and how do tell if its dedicated cause it only says theres 1280 mb gddr5
and would the 470 show better results over the 9800GTX+ in shipsim?
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no sli i dont have the money for that. and how do tell if its dedicated cause it only says theres 1280 mb gddr5
and would the 470 show better results over the 9800GTX+ in shipsim?
It's dedicated :thumbs: This king of graphic cards does not use shared memory. It's plenty of memory, more than enough to run SSE. This graphic card should also be much better than 9800GTX+, even in SSE, if everything is right.
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well iv decided this will be the card im going to purchase. i needed a new generation card anyway for these newer games i plan to play haha. even though i purchased my 9800GTX+ a few months ago.
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If you are going to plug it into your existing computer, remember that it needs two adjacent slots and sufficient power supply capacity.
Also, the graphics card is not the whole story. Rendering time is only a part of the frame period. The other part is the time needed by the CPU to calculate the positions and attitudes of every object that can move before the rendering of the next frame can begin. This is a greater fraction of the frame period than in most other games.
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Yeah, a 9800 GTX+ should be more than able to run the game. It's 720-30 core clock, am I right? I have a fault 9800 GT. It's supposed to be set at 600 core core clock when shipped but mine was set at 550. So I had to over clock it and all this. It was a mess. Anyway! I hope you figure your problems out. Remember, you can overclock your RAM, CPU, MOTHERBOARD, and GPU in the Nvidia control panel! :2thumbs:
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If you are going to plug it into your existing computer, remember that it needs two adjacent slots and sufficient power supply capacity.
Two 6pin connectors, and at least a good 600W power supply.
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yea my current card takes up 2 slots as well.
and a a have a 650W psu
the minimum is a 550
and how do you do all that in the nivdea control panel? If you are going to plug it into your existing computer, remember that it needs two adjacent slots and sufficient power supply capacity.
Also, the graphics card is not the whole story. Rendering time is only a part of the frame period. The other part is the time needed by the CPU to calculate the positions and attitudes of every object that can move before the rendering of the next frame can begin. This is a greater fraction of the frame period than in most other games.
well i have a core 2 duo e8400 3.0ghz. its a pretty fast and reliable even that its a few years old. its been great with pretty much everything.
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I should mention that Vista and Win7 users should consider using the classic theme rather than running Aero; especially if you run windowed. Multi-threading means much higher memory traffic, so you need DDR3 RAM to avoid that bottleneck.
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i run xp :P
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I see posts from folks with fast GFX and fast CPUs who still complain about low frame rates in places that do not have heavy AI or the other known FR killers. I suspect their systems need housekeeping rather than upgrades.
As for those who claim that SSE is unplayable at 20 FPS, perhaps FRAPS doesn’t accurately report frame rate. One quick check on whether you are getting to low a frame rate is to, with camera 1 zoomed out on a busy scene, rotate the scene quickly with the mouse and stop quickly. If the scene coasts to a stop over several frames, you have a low FR.
The FR varies considerably depending upon the view. The difference can be 10 FPS between camera 1 zoomed out and camera 2 zoomed in on the overhead. (This is how you can get fastest mission time in 2008, where true speed varies with frame rate. I suspect that may be the case in SSE as well, but I’m waiting for an ME to test it.)
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yes. well i keep my system maintained on a normal basis.
anti virus scans malware scans spy ware scans defrags and registry cleaners.
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good idea.. :)
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yea my current card takes up 2 slots as well.
and a a have a 650W psu
the minimum is a 550
and how do you do all that in the nivdea control panel?
well i have a core 2 duo e8400 3.0ghz. its a pretty fast and reliable even that its a few years old. its been great with pretty much everything.
Right click, Nvidia control panel, Performance, Device settings. :)
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i see no performance tab.