Ship Simulator
English forum => Ship Simulator Extremes => General discussions => Topic started by: John1000 on August 28, 2010, 20:00:47
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im not impressed i think its a 5
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Well...to me it feels unfinished. But I can understand why; because V-STEP have dates to meet. Even though I do feel the game just isn't quite good enough to be put on a shelf...In some ways I feel like i've paid over 40 pounds for a beta in a box...
In a lot of ways I prefer SS08...but hopefully with patches things will be resolved.
Jack.
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i also prefer ss08 wish they just could add the SSE ships to ss08 and call it done
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After some patches, SSE will be better.
For me, it looks quite unfinished. But hopefully is it to be fixed
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I hope so!
At least there are some nice new features...and some good imrovements. I guess they just need to be built on with patches.
Jack.
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On a scale from 1 - 10 I'll give it an .......................Drums ROOFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
there it comes
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except for the missing manual, the missing Radio-slider in the sound-options menu and the missing single missions the game itself is great.
Only one thing:
I have to play in a windowed screen.
Whenever I play it full screen and the one or other application kicks in, for instance a Virus Checker or Auto-Update or what so ever, the game drops to the background (like in SS08) but jumps back before I can say VSTEP.
But then it's a graphical mess and there is no way I can abort it except with a hard reset.
Could be nice if that was mentioned in the manual
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Please we need patches! :doh:
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I guess this is a good example of why not to give release dates. The pubisher will want the game by release date if it is finished or not. That then means game gets bashed by unhappy customers and the devs will have to get to work on patches instead of making more content for the game. I call it the FSX virus it seems to of effected almost every simulator game that has been released sinice FSX. But unlike some companys there is a chance of Vstep fixing it and getting there sooner rather than later. :thumbs:
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As we all know, VSTEP is a company which not only produces consumer games. So they have a face to loose.
With all the very negative and very undeserved critics on amazon.de (and maybe other so called relaiable sites), I'm quite sure that VSTEP will do anything to keep us gamers satisfied. Their fault or not. Period.
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While I can't really play the game yet, the small 5 minutes of choppy play I did play was pretty good.
The controls are nice an intuitive. The scenery (what I can see, anyway) looks good, in the correct place. I like the feel of the game so far, I just wish I could play it at more than 5fps.
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0 for reales date and i dont have it
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old candy in new package. >:( i'm was very dissapointed. same ugly and stupid AI traffic, same fake gauges in command bridge (if is difficult to make "live" radar on screens, like a map? or working fuel gauges? or even simple clock or barometer?) no binoculars, no Titanic, yet poor textures of vessels decks-i have a long list- all of this things are inheritance from old versions. personally, i can't see any new game, in maximum- large add-on. this purcase-just money waste.
PS: Microsoft Flight simulator dinasty- is a good example of DEVELOPMENT from generation to generation
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Tried SS08 demo 2 weeks ago and its was ok
Read all the hype about SSE so placed my order
For a new user, the manual is poor, there is supposed to be a tutorial mission but its missing so i am a bit lost to what i should be doing.
I am amazed at just how many posts there are about bad performance and low FPS and no answers from VSTEP, I am sure they realise something is wrong so why not say something.
They should also make a statement about the extra content as that seems confusing
As a new Ship Sim user, the download, and install is OK but i am not impressed with the game.
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Tried SS08 demo 2 weeks ago and its was ok
Read all the hype about SSE so placed my order
For a new user, the manual is poor, there is supposed to be a tutorial mission but its missing so i am a bit lost to what i should be doing.
I am amazed at just how many posts there are about bad performance and low FPS and no answers from VSTEP, I am sure they realise something is wrong so why not say something.
They should also make a statement about the extra content as that seems confusing
As a new Ship Sim user, the download, and install is OK but i am not impressed with the game.
You didn't have a tutorial mission in SS08 too. To play this type of games, you should have at least a minimum knowledge abut ships. What is a bow thruster, Azipod etc. In the SS08 you have several tutorials, that could help in SSE too. :thumbs:
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There are a lot of hotkeys that seem to be missing, and I'm not quite happy about the specs needed to run SSE. But to be fair, after playing 2 hours of .5 FPS (I barely got through the chem trails mission) I can truly say that all this game needs is a good computer and a good captian. A lot of us don't have stellar computers, so a lot of us are missing out, but I feel like the game is truly a masterpiece, despite a few dropped things from SS08.
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to make your FPS higher go to your graphic options in SEE and lower your graphics a bit or a lot untill it runs a bit more smooth and your saticfied with the graphics and peformance :)
cuz .5 FPS is pretty damn low
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Hoy,
I'm quite happy with this first result,i can give easy 8 out of 10.Yes,it needs patches to make it better,and i'm sure they will come.
@Dio,
Flightsim was in the beginning also not like it is now,remember FS is already more than 20 years around.Shipsim only 4.
Marc
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Overall, I'm pretty happy with it...yes, it's a little buggy and needs some patches, but so does every other sim that's come out.
We could definitely use more AI traffic...even some static ships tied up to the piers in a harbor would dress it up a lot.
But as far as gameplay goes, the trip through the Antarctic really had me going....talk about tense situations! Nearly no visibility, heavy snow fall, fog, chunks of ice floating around with big jagged teeth on them and you try to get through the mess unscathed....it was the best part of the sim so far....the work on the sounds is excellent. I sideswiped an iceberg, and I hear a heavy thud and screaming steel as the ice slides by....talk about realism! Scared me to death when that happened. I loved every minute of it....it was really draining to get through the maze, and when I finally popped out at the entrance of NY harbor, I was genuinely relieved.
That part of the sim gets a solid 10 from me, the need for AI traffic and some patches....I'll give it a 6 or so. Overall...not too bad for a first release. I nearly gave up on Flight Sim, and the Truck sims were just awful when they first came out...so, don't loose sight of the end of the line....look at all the goodies we have for SS08...they didn't happen overnight, so let's give this one some time.
Jim
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Overall, I'm pretty happy with it...yes, it's a little buggy and needs some patches, but so does every other sim that's come out.
Jim
I couldn't be more agreed with Jim :thumbs: Well Done
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Thanks for sharing that, i enjoyed reading it Jim!
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all i can say is im waiting for patches and im gnna continue with ss08. im not very happy with my purchase. iv spent so much of my money on building this computer and upgrading it here and there. runs pretty much all games great. they went to far with all these fancy graphics that most people cant use and have to deal with the unpleasant medium settings. they shouldve stuck with the ss08 type gui. for example the controls layout is weird. i couldn't even operate the red eagle because there is no turn gauges like there was in ss08. and that new chat window. LOL. ss08 chat window showed you everything. what ship they were in there speed there forum name. this shows nothing.
im not hating on Vstep. they did a great job on the ships and physics and all that stuff. but theres some things they kinda alienated us with.
please vstep make some patches fixing all the bugs and helping the performance out a bit. maybe some new control layouts like ss08 had and some new horns. :)
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Thanks....I've written some programs in the past, so I know that when a sim (which is way beyond me) comes out, there's going to be hiccups, and bugs that were missed in the initial release. A lot of the folks on the board seem to forget that the programmers are human too....they make mistake just like we all do. Just because someone makes a mistake is no reason to start yelling "Off with their heads".....things develop over time. Maybe because I'm a geezer I have more patience. If people want perfection, then they're in the wrong line of interest and the wrong reality.
Jim
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Overall, I am disappointed. This is my first ship sim, I'm usually into flight and racing sims. It does, (as other readers have noted), feel unfinished. NO Missions? C'mon! And in this day and age of fast, capable CPU's & GPU's, I was expecting to have fully functional radar, GPS, depthsounder screens, with some buttons and knobs to put to use at the helm. I am really blown away by the almost crude helmsman stations. I took a chance, but now wished I had not. My only hope now is that SSE will be improved upon, patched, etc..
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I am amazed at just how many posts there are about bad performance and low FPS and no answers from VSTEP, I am sure they realise something is wrong so why not say something.
They should also make a statement about the extra content as that seems confusing
It's wekend for those VSTEP guys too, you know. :doh:
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true
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As high as EBPR.jpg
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@soup55,
Prohably it has to to with the release dates.They did not want to delay it more further intime.I pretty sure that the patches and updates will come in time.
Regards
Marc
One thing is for sure,the graphics are very good,better than the 2008 version.
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Need free patches....
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You didn't have a tutorial mission in SS08 too. To play this type of games, you should have at least a minimum knowledge abut ships. What is a bow thruster, Azipod etc. In the SS08 you have several tutorials, that could help in SSE too. :thumbs:
I bought it as i sold my Sealine F43 a year ago so i have a good enough knowledge, the reason for the tutorial would not be for just me, my point is why say there is one when there is not one
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Im in two minds about it as it is out of the box so to speak, it feels unpolished but then most things do when they are brand new. I too get very low performance I mean I dont have a supercomputer but it never struggles to run other games even FSX runs at 70fps or 32 fps with a complex addon (VRS Superbug FA-18 ftw!) but this is going to need twice as much performance to run SSE smoothly.
I just hope an update/patch comes that can help as it is I will not be able to play untill I get a new PC.
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I bought SSE because SS2008 was utterly unstable on Windows 7. Overall I think they did a good job on the ships and the environments. It looks like the missions are allowing some more complicated scenarios which is a great improvement on SS2008. I also like the imptoved visual stuff but for me that's not the most important thing. It does seem a bit buggy; for instance when grounding a ship the effects are more humoristic then real.
I'm also missing some basic displays, like the time of day and the amount of damage to the ship.
I think it's a good product so far but I'm hoping for some patchwork in the near future!
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Having spent many years in the IT industry I can spot when developers are getting users to PAY for testing the software.
This should have had a Beta release (FREE) to selected users and all the bugs fixed prior to release.
What you have done with this software is simply dishonest you are expecting users to PAY to do the beta test.
And now we are told that our computers are not up to the task, this should have been made clear before purchase.
And NO MISSIONS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Take me back to 08, at least it worked.
GIVE ME MY MONEY BACK
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And now we are told that our computers are not up to the task, this should have been made clear before purchase.
Ahoy Chris,
I agree with most of your comment, but for that piece of it I'm quoting:
"It was stated in the minimal system requirements what kind of hardware was needed.
So, when people don't bother to read those publications they are not in title to complain of "Not having known".
I've seen in your profile that you are not one of the 'angry Young Ones' so therefore I can say this to you, I hope!?"
Kind Regards
Aad the ANGRY Pirate.
BTW, I'm in no way allianced with VSTEP, I have my grieves too :captain:
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overall, this game is big fail. after 3 days of using i seriosly think about refund...
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overall, this game is big fail. after 3 days of using i seriosly think about refund...
You dont have registered yourself,i can see that??
You need to .
Marc
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@CornishChris:
Having spent many years in the IT industry I can spot when developers are getting users to PAY for testing the software.
This should have had a Beta release (FREE) to selected users and all the bugs fixed prior to release.
What you have done with this software is simply dishonest you are expecting users to PAY to do the beta test.
And now we are told that our computers are not up to the task, this should have been made clear before purchase.
That is also my opinion. You should report all the bugs and annoyances you encounter while playing. We are like being a Beta tester for a game we have purchased. It is just like Microsoft with their Windows Versions which came out the last twenty years. The first version of a new Windows OS always have had some nasty bugs and Microsoft had to release patches and servicepacks for the Windows OS'es. Windows 3.0, 95, 89 and Windows XP are very notorious with bugs and annoyances.
After some time SSE 2010 will reach maturity by applying patches and upgrades, just like SS 08 did with the 1.42-version. SSE 2010 suffers now teething trouble.
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I feel in some ways that it would be like going to a car dealer...looking at a car, and saying "I'll take it"...you go to collect your car, and it only has 3 wheels insted of 4.
Even if Paradox are to blame for the early release, the overall system is NOT right. If you bought something from a shop, that was advertised as having 5 things in it, and when you got home and opened it and it only had 2 - you'd go back and ask for your money back. The company would also be doing something very much against the law...I can't remember the phrase, but pretty much conning people into buying a product that isn't the one advertised. Moreoever, why should anyone have to pay 30-40 Pounds for something that isn't finished, and has things literally missing from the game?
Even if V-STEP are saying that they will release patches, you don't go to Argos and buy a PS3 and only get the Controls when you open the box. Argos aren't going to turn around and say to you "We'll send you the console later when we've made it". As I said earlier, the system is totally wrong. I have the right mind to ask for a refund, as anyone would do if if you used my examples above.
I am not a happy bunny at all. Even though SSE is enjoyable, and the general foundations of the game are good, I feel the game is a beta in a box...as Chris also pointed out.
Jack.
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I too am disappointed with SSE and totally agree with Jack. However I plan to stay with it as I am sure things will get better.
One big improvement for me is the game runs well on windohs7 64 bit unlike SS08. Though I am having trouble with getting top quality antialaised graphics despite having 2x nvidia glx 260 cards in sli mode. Frame rates are pretty good.
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i think i now where it is
but i cant get it as the sorting office is closed >:(
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You dont have registered yourself,i can see that??
You need to .
Marc
Why the hell does he need to register the game to his forum account.
If he does that he can basicly forget about a refund.
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I'm so far satisfied with the game. Since I'm sitting on a high-end system, I expected that this game would run on this system and it did (lucky me :D)
I'm satisfied with the new ocean system that I find unique for this type of simulator. The only game that got similar ocean system is Silent Hunter and the ocean system plays an important role when it comes to the forces on the ship and how it visually looks when the ship under command.
The graphics plays a not so important role in my opinion, but VSTEP proves that they want stuff to look realistic in a visual way compared to other titles in the same genre. Therefore I give this game a high score when it comes to graphics.
I'm impressed when it comes to the controllers/gauges and how they visually look. I have not in any other nautical simulators for home PCs seen this kind of instrumentation made so well.
Still I find some of the wheelhouses and bridges at some of the ships quite empty, like the bridge at Fairmount Sherpa. Some more stuff on the bridge could bring a atmosphere of work space even if this would populate the bridge with more 3D stuff that might influence the performance of the game.
I miss the exhaust from exhaust pipes, but that will hopefully be fixed in patches/updates by VSTEP.
So far I have played a lot of free roaming and I'm looking forward to browse the rest of the game in the days to come. :)