Ship Simulator
English forum => Ship Simulator Extremes => General discussions => Topic started by: The Ferry Man on July 18, 2010, 22:00:19
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Hi
Just wondered if anyone can confirm if the requirements given for SSExtremes on the main site are minimum or recommended?
I ask because the processor is said to be 3GHz, which seems quite high - I was told my system is a good one, and only has 2.4 GHz? would be a shame if it was unplayeable.
Many thanks,
TFM
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i agree with TFM
my pc is
2.20 GHZ
2.0 GB
thats i all i know..
i want if mine and tfm computers are good enough for SSEX
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This is in fact
very bad news!!
Some weeks ago the minimum requirements for the CPU were announced to be 2,4 GHz. I don't remember exactly about the video adapter remember except that mine (Geforce 9600 GT) should easily be good enough.
I even updated my CPU to match the requirements! And now now that is all for nothing. I even had a little hope, that this time the game would support multicore-CPUs - which SS08 incomprehensibly doesn't do.
This means that I won't by the game - I have already offered money for it >:( and don not intend to by a new - high end(!) - computer just for one game.
So that's it. Bye bye SSEx. I do not longer need to think about that. :thumbdown: :thumbdown:
But, Ferryman and oceandream, why do you want a confirmation? The fact, that these requirements are listed at the ShipSim product site is unfortunately confirmation enough.
Grrrrrr - from now on I will eat whale meat! One whale a day!
EDIT July 20, 2010:
Some forum members' (especially TJK's and Riddip's) comments have made me think it over and change my mind.
See also http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php/topic,19344.msg263034.html#msg263034
Protect the whales![/b]
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Grrrrrr - from now on I will eat whale meat! One whale a day!
What has that to do with everything? Game hasn't stopped anyone from eating whales ::)(sure there are some GP missions, but still...)
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But, Ferryman and oceandream, why do you want a confirmation? The fact, that is it mentioned on the ShipSim product site is unfortunately confirmation enough.
Because of the fact that a lot of people appear to not have these specificiations, thus not be able to play the game...
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I agree - but why should VStep tell such things (and probably loose customers, while a lot of whales loose their lives), when it's not true?
What has that to do with everything? Game hasn't stopped anyone from eating whales
Yes Minime - but somebody has to feel the consequences ...
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I ask because the processor is said to be 3GHz, which seems quite high - I was told my system is a good one, and only has 2.4 GHz? would be a shame if it was unplayeable.
they list a P4 cpu, and i think they mean the old one with a single core. every dual or quad core bought in the last years should be much faster, so no need to worry!
i have a q6600 with 4x 2,4 ghz and i never played a game that forced my cpu to operate at full capacity until now ;)
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I suppose the specs are quite hefty for the upcoming game and it may be the first ship sim version i'm unable to buy :'( As neither one of my computers fully meets the requirements and i most certainly can't afford even a lousy computer right now :-\ Hopefully a demo comes out so we can all see if our machines can handle it. But like Riddip said, the 3ghz is for a Pentium 4 processor which is pretty old and only a single core. But i believe idealy they're saying you should have 3ghz in a single core to work with. Will be interesting to see how things work.
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Hey Riddip - at least SS08 does NOT support multicore CPUs! My dualcore CPU runs in 100 % for one core and 0 % for the other core when running SS08. And dualcore CPUs were quite common, when SS08 was introduced.
But - of course - I hope you are right! Id SSEx supports multithreading, it should work. And a demo version will be very helpfull
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I for one was absolutely gutted after the excitement of finally getting SS08 and not being able to play it.
I had it sitting in my room for a good few months while I had to save up intensely for a brand new laptop just so I could play SS08.
And now I don't think my new laptop meets the specs, so obviously I'm not very happy! It's crazy, I have to buy a new laptop every time a new SS comes out :'(
I know there are other people out the that have the same problem.
Kind Regards
Matthew
P.S. Below is my DxDiag if it interests anyone, if maybe they think I will be ok ???
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on the other hand - if Riddip is right - there won*t be any problems.
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Hey Riddip - SS08 does NOT support multicore CPUs! My dualcore CPU runs in 100 % for one core and 0 % for the other core when running SS08. And dualcore CPUs were quite common, when SS08 was introduced.
But - of course - I hope you are right!
Hi,
There is no need to provoke people with the tone of your posts. :)
It's been asked to the dev's to clear this subject. Lets wait for that, before this thing starts to leads its own life.
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There is no need to provoke people with the tone of your posts.
It was not meant to provoke anybody. I just wanted to tell Riddip that I hope he is right (which I really do!). I did by no means want to be rude.
I do not understand why you suppose that. Is it because of the one loud word? Or a misunderstanding because of my bad English? I order to prevent situations like these in future, please tell me what is wrong with the post.
If anybody in this forum feels provoked, I want to apologize for that.
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Operating system: Windows XP (Min. service pack 2), Windows Vista or Windows 7.
32 and 64 bits OS supported
Memory: 2GB (Windows XP) or 3GB (Vista or Windows 7)
Processor: 3 Ghz P4 Intel or AMD equivalent processor
Video card: Geforce 8800GT or ATI Radeon 4850 with 256MB ram (At least Shader model 3.0)
Hard disc space: 3,5GB
Drive: 4x PC DVD-ROM
Input controllers: Mouse with scroll wheel
Sound: DirectX 9.0c compatible
DirectX: Version 9.0c
Controller: Optional controller support DirectX 9.0c compatible
Internet: Broadband Internet connection required for Multiplayer
thats from the product page for ship sim extremes
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I for one was absolutely gutted after the excitement of finally getting SS08 and not being able to play it.
I had it sitting in my room for a good few months while I had to save up intensely for a brand new laptop just so I could play SS08.
And now I don't think my new laptop meets the specs, so obviously I'm not very happy! It's crazy, I have to buy a new laptop every time a new SS comes out :'(
I know there are other people out the that have the same problem.
Kind Regards
Matthew
P.S. Below is my DxDiag if it interests anyone, if maybe they think I will be ok ???
Not to burst your bubble, but that computer is very low speced. It's not even close to the SS08 requirements so if the game works at all i'd be very surprised.
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I don't know, But I think my PC meets some or most of the requirements. What do you all think? DxDiag attached.
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my Laptop has 2,16GHZ and i'm hoping that the game will play :D Minimum with min Requirements and no Multiplayer for me now =/
Its not possible to buy a computer, because the game Requirements are going up and up :S
Even a Macbook Pro cant all the games what are coming out.
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Not to burst your bubble, but that computer is very low speced. It's not even close to the SS08 requirements so if the game works at all i'd be very surprised.
Well suprisingly enough, SS08 runs absolutely perfectly on my PC :thumbs: I have no problem whatsoever.
On the internet it says my laptop is a 2.4Ghz processor, but when I look here it only says 2.0Ghz.
So I hope when i uninstall SS08 and all its components I should be ok to run SSE :)
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That's not how it works, I am afraid, Matthew.
Uninstalling games does not 'give back' anything. Games only temporarily use the resources they need.
SSE will need more than SS08 needs. A 3Ghz processor for starters. If your machine has a 2.0Ghz processor and it runs SS08 fine, then you're just lucky that the rest of the configuration allows for this.
But it doesn't mean that SS08 'uses up' 0.4Ghz of what the internet says you should have, and returns this to you if you uninstall. It can mean that maybe there's more than one hardware configuration possible with your type/brand laptop. You better trust the dxdiag, and dont go by what a website tells you. Your own computer knows what it has onboard.
You'll need a minimum 3.0Ghz P4 processor for SSE, so you can pretty much forget about that with a 2.0Ghz cpu, I am afraid. This games will up the ante quite a bit, compared to SS08's minimum requirements, as you can see. And you need to have that whole set covered, pretty much. There's always a lucky few that can run just under specs, but I wouldn't count on it if you're too far below them.
But just so you know, installing and/or uninstalling games does not change how fast your CPU is, or how much RAM you physically have installed in your machine. It only used resources when it runs, but never changes any of your hardware specifications.
Regards,
Fred
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That doesn't sound good then...
:-\
I assume my:
"Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.4GHz"
Will not be useful either for SSE... :-\
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Thanks for getting that over with Fred, but is the 3.0Ghz single core? dual? etc
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As Riddip mentioned earlier: we talk about a 3 Ghz P4(!) processor, which is a quite old model. If I am lucky, an AMD Athlon 5200+ (two cores running at 2,6 GHz each, rated to 5200 GHz by the producer (which of course is nonsense if you are running a single application)) will be enough. But this depends on the way how SSEx handles multiple cores. So at this stage I suppose the game will run on my machine, but I have no idea in which quality it will run. Therefore I will have to wait for more precise information or a demo version.
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HI --tractorman--
if you use a single core? dual? or quad core you only will have a 3ghz processor, so in a quad core you do not have 12ghz or 6ghz in a dual core processor.
you still will have a 3 GHz processor speed
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Not looking good for us then...
Will there be a demo version released so we can see if SSE will run on our Computers?
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Do not know that jet but it will be strange if not do
Tore
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Hi guys,
Well.. my dxdiag says I have a 2.7Ghz processor.
However, it's an i7 core 920, so it's a heck of a lot faster than a 3.0Ghz P4 processor.
And that's how you have to look at it, I reckon. The 3.0Ghz mark is for a P4 equivalent.
If you have a newer generation cpu, that does 'more with less', so to speak, then your entry in the Dxdiag is not comparable, one on one, with the 3.0Ghz pentium 4.
Fred
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OK, that sounds better,
thanks Fred :thumbs:
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Fingers crossed then! Thanks for the info :)
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But I really doubt the requirements listed on the main site. I mean, it is almost the same as SS2008 ???
In my computer, FPS may fall close to 30 in 1080p and 8XAA, so with the new physics system and that beautiful sea model, SSE's requirements are still close to SS2008 ??? ??? ???
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I don't know, But I think my PC meets some or most of the requirements. What do you all think? DxDiag attached.
I'm afraid to say you don't meet any of the requirements for SSE, not in the cpu, ram or graphics card :-\
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Dang. The thing is, my family didn't have enough for a stronger PC that meets the requirements. I'll try to work with it.
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Hi all,
Thought I'd shed some light on this discussion...
The system specs as posted on http://www.shipsim.com/products/shipsimulatorextremes (http://www.shipsim.com/products/shipsimulatorextremes) are the confirmed specs on which the game will run well, with a good framerate and nice visuals.
The most important aspect is not to stare yourselves blind on that 3GHz CPU. Most important is the RAM memory and 3D videocard you have. If you have sufficient RAM and a good 3D card, you will be able to play it well, even if you do not have a 3 GHz but something just below.
It is always difficult to communicate system specs, as pc's are so very different and everybody has a different configuration. We noticed that the first system specs we posted would give problems on some systems, so we decided to put in a safety margin and communicate system specs that will allow you to play the game the way it is supposed to, with good visuals and framerate.
It is really not uncommon for system specs to change during development and we hope to have informed you well in advance. These specs were updated quite some time ago on the official game page, although I do admit that it might have been given some more notice on the forum as well. My apologies if you guys missed that.
Anyway, the reason to post correct system specs is to make sure you are not dissapointed when buying the game. There are many other games out there that post below minimum specs only to have people be dissapointed AFTER they have cashed out for the game. We don't want to do that.
Hope you understand,
Frank
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Okay, thanks very much for your response Frank
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So is it better to have more or less RAM? I have 3GB
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Thank you for this statement!
I do agree with your attitude to keep the requirements at a safe level.
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So is it better to have more or less RAM? I have 3GB
More is always better of course, but 3GB is ok.
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Ah thanks for that Frank, and thanks for the statement, as krytsch, its better to be safe and in the green
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2.15GHz, not good :-\
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Hi Frank
I think another clarification is necessary. Is requirement of 3.0 GHz CPU referred in single-core processors or multicore ones? Does SSE exploit multicore processors or not?
Thank you
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Hi Frank
I think another clarification is necessary. Is requirement of 3.0 GHz CPU referred in single-core processors or multicore ones? Does SSE exploit multicore processors or not?
Thank you
Has I stated, SS08 exploits dual core CPUs, probably SSE would too, or at least it makes sense. From the website, it says 3.0 P4 or Pentium 4 which is a single core CPU, so 3.0 is for single core, not dual core. I would like to say something, just to clarify. Today we have different types of Dual Core CPUs: Pentium D, Core 2 Duo, Core I3 and Core I5. For example, you cannot compare a Pentium D 3.0GHz with a C2D 3.0GHz, mainly because they are based in different architectures, and off course, the C2D will be much better. You also should consider, other important facts like cache, hyper-threading, physical cores, compatible memory RAM etc. And I am talking about Intel only, we have AMD too. Hope I helped guys. :2thumbs:
2.15GHz, not good :-\
What CPU do you have?
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AMD Turion Dual Core RM-72
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AMD Turion Dual Core RM-72
Its not very powerful, but its better than the 3.0GHz Pentium 4 from the req. specs. If it is enough? Maybe, but the graphic card/RAM is very important too.
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Better? You've got to be kidding me :o
I have 4GB RAM (Vista only recognises 3GB)
My Card is an NVIDIA Geforce 8600M.
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You could be scraping the barrel then McGherkin..
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I have 2.66GHz (2 CPUs), 3GB of RAM (Windows XP), with a Nvidia N240 GT (512mb). Everything seems to be above the specs given, apart from the 2.66GHz, so i'm hoping it will be ok.
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I have a 2.6 Quadcore, hopefully I'll be ok, everything else seems to be ok.. 3GB ram.. Nvidia Geforce 9500GS..
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That's not how it works, I am afraid, Matthew.
Uninstalling games does not 'give back' anything. Games only temporarily use the resources they need.
SSE will need more than SS08 needs. A 3Ghz processor for starters. If your machine has a 2.0Ghz processor and it runs SS08 fine, then you're just lucky that the rest of the configuration allows for this.
But it doesn't mean that SS08 'uses up' 0.4Ghz of what the internet says you should have, and returns this to you if you uninstall. It can mean that maybe there's more than one hardware configuration possible with your type/brand laptop. You better trust the dxdiag, and dont go by what a website tells you. Your own computer knows what it has onboard.
You'll need a minimum 3.0Ghz P4 processor for SSE, so you can pretty much forget about that with a 2.0Ghz cpu, I am afraid. This games will up the ante quite a bit, compared to SS08's minimum requirements, as you can see. And you need to have that whole set covered, pretty much. There's always a lucky few that can run just under specs, but I wouldn't count on it if you're too far below them.
But just so you know, installing and/or uninstalling games does not change how fast your CPU is, or how much RAM you physically have installed in your machine. It only used resources when it runs, but never changes any of your hardware specifications.
Regards,
Fred
Ah, yes sorry Fred.
I got slightly confused, I was just referring to the Gigabytes on my laptop.
Once I uninstall SS08, then it will give me back those gigabytes so I can play SSE a bit more efficiently, with a faster speed than if I were to have both games installed at the same time :doh:
That of course will speed up my system ever so slightly :thumbs:.
Kind Regards
Matthew
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Oh dear, I have a 2.8GHz Core 2 Duo, should I be safe? and I only have 3.25 GB's on XP SP 2 ???
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Oh dear, I have a 2.8GHz Core 2 Duo, should I be safe? and I only have 3.25 GB's on XP SP 2 ???
Yes, probably. However, I don't have the minimum idea of what type of graphic card will the game need. The CPU should be enough, mainly because powerful games like Crysis runs with it, or Battlefield Bad Company 2. I never tested the game, (I would like to... ;D), but when it came out, we will see.
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Oh dear, I have a 2.8GHz Core 2 Duo, should I be safe? and I only have 3.25 GB's on XP SP 2 ???
You really should upgrade to SP 3.. Microsoft recently no longer supports SP 2..
http://www.informationweek.com/news/smb/hardware_software/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=225800007&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_News
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Thanks for getting that over with Fred, but is the 3.0Ghz single core? dual? etc
Ah, yes sorry Fred.
I got slightly confused, I was just referring to the Gigabytes on my laptop.
Once I uninstall SS08, then it will give me back those gigabytes so I can play SSE a bit more efficiently, with a faster speed than if I were to have both games installed at the same time :doh:
That of course will speed up my system ever so slightly :thumbs:.
Kind Regards
Matthew
The more space on your hard drive will not affect the speed or efficiency of SSE. Uninstalling SS08 will not make a difference to SSE.
Oh dear, I have a 2.8GHz Core 2 Duo, should I be safe? and I only have 3.25 GB's on XP SP 2 ???
Matt, are you out of your mind? SP2 is no longer even supported, and a LOT of programs require it now.. :P better update soon.
@Tractorman, a Pentium 4 processor is only available in single core, so, single core is the answer. :)
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I have no problems with Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2, GTA 4 and NFS Shift so SSE would be working I think :P
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The more space on your hard drive will not affect the speed or efficiency of SSE. Uninstalling SS08 will not make a difference to SSE.
No, but say I installed loads and loads of software.
Video converters, photo editing software etc. And my computer said I only have a very small amount of Gigabytes left.
I would not be able to install SSE let alone run it! On my old pc it was the same story, I had a mass of stuff installed and it was making SS08 so slow to play (Lag), so when I uninstalled all the stuff I didnt need it ran much faster :thumbs:
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Very interesting thread guys.
A few months ago I decided to upgrade my PC and couldn't wait for the official SSE specs to come out.
I had a funny feeling the quoted 2.4 GHz at the time was a bit optimistic, giving the stunning screenprints of SSE and thought "hmm, that would need plenty of CPU juice", so I went for an Intel i3 540 which has 3.07 GHz core. Luckily it looks like I just meet the minimum specs for processor speed.
I have 8Gb RAM installed and it looks like I was lucky with the graphic card as well - I bought a Nvida 8800GT two years ago - so I don't need to upgrade my graphic card.
Good to see SSE supporting either 32-bit and 64-bit Windows.
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No, but say I installed loads and loads of software.
Video converters, photo editing software etc. And my computer said I only have a very small amount of Gigabytes left.
I would not be able to install SSE let alone run it! On my old pc it was the same story, I had a mass of stuff installed and it was making SS08 so slow to play (Lag), so when I uninstalled all the stuff I didnt need it ran much faster :thumbs:
Matthew, it sounds like some of your program starts automatically in the Task Manager when you switch on your laptop. Unknown to you, they will be 'running' in the background even though you've not opened the application.
As a result your laptop's memory and CPU is being used unnecessary. You can close down these programs when you do not need them. That should then free up some of RAM and CPU.
You can also change the settings in the Task Manager to stop the programs from starting automatically every time you start up your computer - simply right-click on one of the programs and you should see an option menu and uncheck the box which says "Run This Program at Startup" (or something like that)
The only programs which I always allow start up automatically are my Anti-Virus and firewall programs - they are really important programs which should be always running at all times.
Hope this helps
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Very interesting thread guys.
A few months ago I decided to upgrade my PC and couldn't wait for the official SSE specs to come out.
I had a funny feeling the quoted 2.4 GHz at the time was a bit optimistic, giving the stunning screenprints of SSE and thought "hmm, that would need plenty of CPU juice", so I went for an Intel i3 540 which has 3.07 GHz core. Luckily it looks like I just meet the minimum specs for processor speed.
I have 8Gb RAM installed and it looks like I was lucky with the graphic card as well - I bought a Nvida 8800GT two years ago - so I don't need to upgrade my graphic card.
Good to see SSE supporting either 32-bit and 64-bit Windows.
As I said before, your CPU is way above the required specs, believe me.
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I have a PC with an AMD Phenom II X3, 4 Gigabyte Main RAM memory and Windows XP Sp3. My videocard is Nvidia Geforce 9400 GT. Would this PC configuration be enough for Shipsim Extremes 2010?
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I should probably think so. :o Even though it's a little under.
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Hiya guys
How is it under? ..seems fine to me, to be honest.. ;D
Regards,
Fred
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The video card is probably quite under - the Geforce 8800 GT is not exactly the newest model, but very powerful. The Geforce 9400 GT is a bit newer, but at the lower end.
But as for SS08 it stresses the CPU more than the video card, so maybe you are lucky. And video cards in the required class (evt. second hand) are not that expensive. I've got a 9600 GT 1 MB (two levels higher than the 9400 GT (bought for 40 Euro - new), and I have my doubts that it will be enough.
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Hiya guys
How is it under? ..seems fine to me, to be honest.. ;D
Regards,
Fred
Fred, are you allowed/do you know whether or not SSE will support hyperthreading?
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ugh i only got a 2.0ghz and 4gb
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Fred, are you allowed/do you know whether or not SSE will support hyperthreading?
http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php/topic,19021.msg262809.html#msg262809 :thumbs:
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Interesting. This should mean more efficient running..
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Ok guys, question, if i have 3gb ram (vista) and a 2.3 GHz quad core processor (note the quad core) and a nvidia 9800 GT graphics card, will this game work on my pc smoothly? I ask because ive been to a very good computer store and they say that with my quad core, if the game takes all of these processing units into account i should be able to produce more power than 3.0 GHz ..what do you guys think (vstep staff welcome to reply ;) )
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** merged in **
Ok so, i'm making this so we can all put the information we know into this one post and not forever spam the forums with new ones.
We all know the requirements on the product page by heart now i'm sure, so lets talk about what we know about these.
From what i have gathered, ship sim 2008 only takes into account one core of multicore processors thus slowing the game if you perhaps have a 2.3 QUAD CORE processor because the game only looks at one part of your processor, does anyone know is this goes for SSE? I'm assuming the official system requirements is referring to a single core processor?
Now, the graphics card is pretty simple Nvidia geforce 8800 or above, am i right? (with correct memory)
And from what i have heard RAM is good on the requirements, frank from vstep has said on a post that the reuirements there are to run the game reasonably well, and not bare minimum, therefore i see no problem in the RAM.
Feel free to post any questions to here and lets hope people reply :)
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i doubt that there is no multi cpu support at all. dual cores are the standard since years...
Would be nice to know if SLI is better supported. In SS2008 it is working, but i have the same performance with 1 or 2 8800gt cards (at least i can use the second card for a nice high AA mode :) ).
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Hi gents,
I don't think we should split up the whole requirements discussion into two seperate topics.
Any further discussion about what the posted and explained specs come down to, can also be done in this very topic, so that all the helpful tips, answers or further information stays within the same topic, where people have easier access.
It also will prevent raising similar questions in both topics.
So I have merged the topcis into one and taken the 'query' bit out of the title, to make it an allroound topic to discuss the system requirements.
I trust you understand.
Cheers!
Regards,
Fred
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ok so if multi-core processors are most likely supported with a quad core 2.3 GHz processor i should have no problems, am i right? because even 2.3 x2 is 4.6 so i should be ok yes? and with a nvidia geforce 9800 GT i also am fine? :)
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Yup, you should be good with those specs, indeed!
It also comes down to how tou maintain your pc, and your use of various software counts too. But on bare specs, you are in the green, yup! :thumbs:
i don't think you just go 4x 2.3Ghz with a quad core.. Tough I am no expert, but it should do just fine.
Regards,
Fred
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Thanks Fred, you've really cleared things up for me :)
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You're very welcome! :thumbs:
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Yup, you should be good with those specs, indeed!
It also comes down to how tou maintain your pc, and your use of various software counts too. But on bare specs, you are in the green, yup! :thumbs:
i don't think you just go 4x 2.3Ghz with a quad core.. Tough I am no expert, but it should do just fine.
Regards,
Fred
Yes, that's correct, we cannot multiply by 4 or 2, just because the CPU "doesn't work" like that. However, I must say that your CPU is above the minimum specs :thumbs:
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If the game really does support individual threads over multiple cores like it was stated/hinted at some time ago (even hyperthreading for those of us with HT-capable CPU's), it's not too far off thinking "number of cores" times "speed of core", as each core would then work at its speed with its own thread or part of the game.
I just really really hope I get my GTX470 returned in time after it stopped working the other day, or I have to play SSE with a 7800GTX :-\
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If the game really does support individual threads over multiple cores like it was stated/hinted at some time ago (even hyperthreading for those of us with HT-capable CPU's), it's not too far off thinking "number of cores" times "speed of core", as each core would then work at its speed with its own thread or part of the game.
I just really really hope I get my GTX470 returned in time after it stopped working the other day, or I have to play SSE with a 7800GTX :-\
Yes, it's not, but it's not correct too, because it's a bit more complicated than that. The only thing we could say, is that two cores may do the work in half the time, if we split the work in half. Each core operates in its own frequency, and the CPU its not the some of all frequencies, but the some of all cores working together.
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ok so if multi-core processors are most likely supported with a quad core 2.3 GHz processor i should have no problems, am i right? because even 2.3 x2 is 4.6 so i should be ok yes? and with a nvidia geforce 9800 GT i also am fine? :)
I have a processor with 2.66GHz (2 CPUs)...is this the same thing?
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I have a processor with 2.66GHz (2 CPUs)...is this the same thing?
I guess you have an i5 processor and that's a fast processor (don't only look at the core-frequency), there will probably be no problem for you to run SSE pretty well! Your processor is much fuster than a Pentium @ 3.0 GHz...
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How did you work that out?
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How did you work that out?
That it's an i5 processor in the 600-series (can be an i3 too)? Only Intels i5 processor and maybe an i3 too (not sure) have that core frequency and two cores :)
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Here's my DXdiag if it helps :)
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good god this is all confusing, so basicly this is my final question, is my 2.3 GHz quad-core processor up to SSE?
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Mad_Fred said that was good enough on the last page :thumbs:
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Here's my DXdiag if it helps :)
Haha, I failed! ;D
Then I'm not as sure as before, but I think it'll do the work..
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Mad_Fred said that was good enough on the last page :thumbs:
Don't nail Fred on that one, it isnt only the processor but it also depends on the RAM and video card :)
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What could be nice is to know the sort of computers that the beta testers were using?
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Marty posted his DXdiag earlier in this topic ???
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That is true, but would be nice to see a few more specs, especially what sort of low-end systems still work...
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Here's mine..
But it's not on the low end I think.
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Here is my DxDiag. Possibly one of the lowest specs of any Beta tester. I seem to get a reasonable performance for SSE with it.
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Wow, Thanks very much guys :thumbs:
Wasn't expecting this sort of response. Very grateful :thumbs:
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No problem, mate! :thumbs:
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All comers welcome :-*.
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Here mine and it run SSE weary good
Tore
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Hi Gents,is mine ok.
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Lol, was that sarcastic Jim? :D
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No I've just bought a new PC,and I dont really understand all the workings of it. ::)
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And here is mine :D
Its so sad :S
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No I've just bought a new PC,and I dont really understand all the workings of it. ::)
As far as i can tell it will do fine.. :)
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And here is mine :D
Its so sad :S
The CPU may be fine, however I am not sure about the graphic card... It will run the game, but not with high resolution and high detail.
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Hi guys,
How is the processor on this system? I noticed it was 2.8 yet most people seem to have higher? Or is there something else with this processor that makes it just as good?
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/packard-bell-ipower-i9723-06323861-pdt.html
Thanks,
Jack.
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Hi guys,
How is the processor on this system? I noticed it was 2.8 yet most people seem to have higher? Or is there something else with this processor that makes it just as good?
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/packard-bell-ipower-i9723-06323861-pdt.html
Thanks,
Jack.
The CPU is just fine, its the new generation of Intel CPUs, and the graphic card is a medium one.
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How could it be that a 2 gb dedicated video card is 'just' a medium one?
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When you say it is 2GB dedicated - does that mean that it doesn't draw its 'power' from the rest of the system? Or am I totally wrong??
Jack.
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That's correct. The video card only takes memory from the rest of your system when it has 'shared memory'
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Ahhh I see...I thought so, but wasn't too sure! What's ironic is that at the moment, on the main computer, I only have 1GB in total...yet this one has 2GB JUST for the card ROFL :D :lol:
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Im worried :-\
Processor i think is fine, its the rest that concerns me ???
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How could it be that a 2 gb dedicated video card is 'just' a medium one?
Yes, it's from the medium low segment. The memory its not so important when compared to other specs like stream processors, clock/mem/shader frequencies, new architectures, etc. Is the same as comparing CPUs taking just the frequency as a term of comparison, and then saying that higher is better. :2thumbs:
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A medium pc with a 9800GT, without problems.
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I'm still confused :doh: But I suppose I will just have to wait and see :thumbs: I don't mind waiting.
Kind Regards
Matthew
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Does anyone know if Questviewer will be used in SSE?
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You ask this because of the so-called QV errors? Questviewer is the game engine that fits everything together. Questview error is just the 'messenger' for any conflicts caused by software and/or hardware.
I'm sure MVSmith has a better explanation :)
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You ask this because of the so-called QV errors? Questviewer is the game engine that fits everything together. Questview error is just the 'messenger' for any conflicts caused by software and/or hardware.
I'm sure MVSmith has a better explanation :)
Hi Ballast,
Yup, you got that right :) I'm not a huge fan of Questviewer. :thumbdown:
Out of all PC games I've owned, Questviewer is the only one which crash frequently. Getting a mission to load successfully is a lottery.
If SSE will be using Questviewer then I might hold off buying SSE for a wee bit and see if anyone else is still having the Questviewer errors in SSE.
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Questviewer IS used for SSE, but it is a different version to that which is used for SS2008.
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Questviewer IS used for SSE, but it is a different version to that which is used for SS2008.
Cheers for that, let's hope it is much better than the one used in SS2008.
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http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php/topic,17722.msg238516.html#msg238516 (http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php/topic,17722.msg238516.html#msg238516)
The developers have taken a very aggressive step in SSE to eliminate newton.dll faults, which are the principle cause of so-called QV crashes on proper installations of SS08.
When QV reports a faulting module other than newton.dll, the problem is usually with the user’s computer or installation.
The principal reason for a mission not to initialize is excessive AI or a large total number of player, static, and AI ships beyond what the resources of the user’s system can handle.
All ships, even static ships, have dynamics that require considerable computational effort. Everything in the current environment that can move must be examined and have its new position and attitude calculated, if necessary, between every frame. This must be done for objects such as AI ships that are not in the current view so that they will be in their correct positions when they do come into view.
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i saw the system requirements but i didn't see an optimum system one.
are the ones on the homepage official?
if so would this system be able to handle SSE?
core 2 duo E8400 3.0 Ghz
2 GB of ram
EVGA 9800 GTX+ 512mb
ASUS p5ql pro
windows XP 32 bit
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i saw the system requirements but i didn't see an optimum system one.
are the ones on the homepage official?
if so would this system be able to handle SSE?
core 2 duo E8400 3.0 Ghz
2 GB of ram
EVGA 9800 GTX+ 512mb
ASUS p5ql pro
windows XP 32 bit
Yes, don't worry at all.
Don't you want to install Win 7? In that computer its a good investment (just an opinion).
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Hi gents,
A note though... With win7, the RAM won't be enough... :-\
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Hi gents,
A note though... With win7, the RAM won't be enough... :-\
Why? I only have 2GB and runs very very fine. More than that and we should start thinking about Win 64Bit.
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Well, SSE requires 2GB of RAM for XP and 3GB of RAM when using Vista/Win7, or at least so do the requirements say.
Hence if he'd go from xp to win7 he'd go from minium requirement for win xp, to 1GB below specs for win7. :-\
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Well, SSE requires 2GB of RAM for XP and 3GB of RAM when using Vista/Win7, or at least so do the requirements say.
Hence if he'd go from xp to win7 he'd go from minium requirement for win xp, to 1GB below specs for win7. :-\
That is is something that I would like to discuss after the game will be released. I want to test a lot of things !:) ;D
However, I am not saying not to buy, just that probably 2GB will be enough to play it, as many other high end games.
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Hmm, yeah but it's risky to speculate if you, for example, use that to decide wether or not to upgrade something ,and later find out it's not going.
There has been extensive testing already, and as one result, the requirements have gone up. That requirements change was not without reason. And I can also see for myself how much RAM it uses on my machine, in total.. when playing the game (plus some background stuff). And I am saying.. it needs it's resources, specially when missions get very crowded.
So if you recommend someone to go with a new OS, and that causes him not to be able to play the game without buying additional hardware, it's kind of a shame if it goes wrong..
So best to just go by the officially posted requirements. And you can't really compare other game specs with this one, to be honest, there's no guarantee that it will be similar to 'what a lot of others have'.
And I don't think you can play a lot of new high end games with 2GB anyway.. or I would have been able to run them on my old pc, which lacked the memory for the newer high end games, even though cpu and graphics card were up to par, sort of ::).
I bought quite a few titles that I had to put aside till I got this new machine, because I also thought 'should be okay, even if I lam slightly under spec'. :doh: ;D
Fred
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Hmm, yeah but it's risky to speculate if you, for example, use that to decide wether or not to upgrade something ,and later find out it's not going.
There has been extensive testing already, and as one result, the requirements have gone up. That requirements change was not without reason. And I can also see for myself how much RAM it uses on my machine, in total.. when playing the game (plus some background stuff). And I am saying.. it needs it's resources, specially when missions get very crowded.
So if you recommend someone to go with a new OS, and that causes him not to be able to play the game without buying additional hardware, it's kind of a shame if it goes wrong..
So best to just go by the officially posted requirements. And you can't really compare other game specs with this one, to be honest, there's no guarantee that it will be similar to 'what a lot of others have'.
And I don't think you can play a lot of new high end games with 2GB anyway.. or I would have been able to run them on my old pc, which lacked the memory for the newer high end games, even though cpu and graphics card were up to par, sort of ::).
I bought quite a few titles that I had to put aside till I got this new machine, because I also thought 'should be okay, even if I lam slightly under spec'. :doh: ;D
Fred
Yes, I do play, sorry to say that to you, BattleField Bad company 2 for example is a very graphic intensive game, and it runs smooth with my settings. Well, I also have my memories configured at 1000Mhz, which affects the performance too.
Talking about the thing of upgrading to Win 7 and then it goes wrong, Win 7 "uses" the memory much better than XP. My advise, was with that computer Win 7 fits nice, because mine is worst and it fits nice too, besides I expect to run the game without problems, probably not with all the eye candy on ;D
I never said to someone, "hey you will run the game with this on, this on and that off" I just said that you will run the game, and depending on many factors not just the mems, you would have to adjust the settings to play it more nicely.
I hope you understood my English, sometimes is hard to discuss in a non native language :2thumbs:
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Hi again,
Yeah, you're english is perfectly understandable, nothing wrong with it, and I see your points too. :thumbs:
I was talking in general too, not saying you told him to upgrade to win7, you only posed the question, which is fair enough, since xp is kinda going out of fashion.
What I just wanted to say is, that you're always on the safe side if you take the minimum requirements as bare minimum, to avoid surprises.
But it MIGHT run, yes. Though as I said.. the specs aren't there just for fun. ;D
Regards,
Fred
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Hi again,
Yeah, you're english is perfectly understandable, nothing wrong with it, and I see your points too. :thumbs:
I was talking in general too, not saying you told him to upgrade to win7, you only posed the question, which is fair enough, since xp is kinda going out of fashion.
What I just wanted to say is, that you're always on the safe side if you take the minimum requirements as bare minimum, to avoid surprises.
But it MIGHT run, yes. Though as I said.. the specs aren't there just for fun. ;D
Regards,
Fred
Thanks Happy_Fred ;D
I agree, we should always take the minimum specs as a golden rule, to at least run the game without major problems.
:2thumbs:
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well im going to purchase 4 GB in a few months. correct me if im wrong though, since im running 32bit os xp will it only recognize 3GB?
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Correct, it will only recognize about 3.25 GB RAM, but it's not a very huge difference between 3 and 4 GBs when gaming.
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so it probably wouldn't be worth buying 64bit xp just to get one more GB?
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a new windows for one 1gb? if this is your only reasen then it is not worth it.
But if you plan to buy a new windows for other reasons i would strongly suggest windows 7 64 bit ;)
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well the only reason id want more ram is for playing these new games. windows 7 would be nice but im happy with xp for now.
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3 GB to 4 GB doesn't do any big difference in games, more important to have a fast cpu and gpu in new games :)
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well my core 2 duo e8400 3.0 ghz and 9800 GTX+ are pretty good for older and current games but i dont know about new ones..
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You will atleast have no problems with SSE, but you would have problems with Crysis and powerneeding games like that at high reselutions and high quality :(
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i dont play crysis. never will. haha but no i cab handle games like mw2 with no problemo
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well im going to purchase 4 GB in a few months. correct me if im wrong though, since im running 32bit os xp will it only recognize 3GB?
the limit is 4GB of RAM, but not just system ram, also the memory on your GFX card, sound card and so on. If you have 1GB of RAM on your GFX card, youre down to 2.xGB RAM accessible for non-graphics stuff.
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oh dear, sooooooo, i got a 32 bit os with 3gb RAM and i'm getting a nvidia 9800 GT (1gb mem) so i'm guessing now this may be a problem and could slow down my games?
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You should still have close to 3GB of available RAM as far as I remember (4GB limit at 32bit memory allocation tables and so on, - 1GB for the GPU and some smaller ammounts of memory in other parts), and with XP and a 9800GT that should not become the bottleneck.. though I am only vaguely remembering any of that, as I switched to Vista 64bit many years ago and Im currently running 7-64bit and far more RAM that I can effectively use. Only 2GB worth of RAM should still be enough for SSX when youre running XP anyway according to the sys-req on the product page so you should still be in the clear!
Also, if the new GFX card is a considerable upgrade, it would probably add more to your computer than the loss of available system memory would affect it, as it handles data more effectively and uses its 1GB better than the system would use it in games.
As for other games, play them with Task Manager running, alt-tab out of the game and into TM at a peak point in the game, and you should see how much memory the game is using. If your computer is still stuck with DDR(1) ram-chips like mine was a year and a half ago, upgrading could become a costly experience, seeing as to have more ram, I needed a new motherboard, but new motherboards couldnt use my old ram, so I had to get everything new, and then I needed an new processor as well, and by then I needed a new power supply. It might be better to turn down some settings just a notch or two and get the game running smoothly again..
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yea, my problem is i'm using vista so what, thats one gb to the system and one to the graphics card...leaves me with one... not good!
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Ouch, Vista is a real resource hog... I'd be a little worried myself at least, but try it out, it might just work :)
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i can invest in getting 64 bit windows 7 if i needed to, this doesn't hog as much memory and allows me to have my graphic card memory as well as my 3gb of ram (minus the footprint from 7) and will also make the system view my quad core 2.3 GHz processor as a 9.2 GHz single one, what do you guys think, should i go for the 64 bit system?
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if you can afford 64bit 7, I'd probably get that already, as 7 64bit is, in my experience, a far better operating system than 32bit Vista. If it is a considerable economic expense I would probably wait until you get your graphics card to see how the RAM limits affect you, and then see how you fare with SSE when that finally reaches your grasp... but yeah, could you afford the 7-64, I'd start there, it should make a noticeable difference with your computer.
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yea, i will probs wait till i have my new card installed and all wired up before i go out and spend the money on a 64 bit OS, it uses more memory as well right? so i will need to buy more of that 2 :P
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7 uses far less memory than Vista, about as much as XP when you turn off all the flashy stuff. My 1.6GHz 2GB RAM netbook is running 7 without any problems and I have a lot of spare memory.
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yea i will probs download windows 7 then, lol my upgrades cost me more than £250 for this one game :P
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Here is mine!
I play SS2008 at full(maxed out) and i think i will not have problems with running SSE!!
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i dont play crysis. never will. haha but no i cab handle games like mw2 with no problemo
Yeah i run MW2 maxed out 8)
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Hi guys,
for questions about graphic cards, you might refer to this comparative charts beetween most common GPU :
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/784-10/comparatif-geant-89-gpu-nvidia-ati-amd.html (http://www.hardware.fr/articles/784-10/comparatif-geant-89-gpu-nvidia-ati-amd.html)
I can give you the link to the whole comparative review, but as it is written in french, i won't probably help lots of you : http://www.hardware.fr/articles/784-1/comparatif-geant-89-gpu-nvidia-ati-amd.html (http://www.hardware.fr/articles/784-1/comparatif-geant-89-gpu-nvidia-ati-amd.html)
I'm convinced the CPU speed (2,4 2,6 or 3ghz) if far less important than the GPU power. Also, I'm sorry to say that laptops are always less performant than desktops... Unless you buy a gamer laptop (like Alienware models), but that costs a lot of money (and for the same price than a gamer laptop, you would have a far more powerful desktop). Laptops are definitely not a good choice for gaming !
regards,
Denis
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I might have good news for all of you concerned about CPU's! :thumbs:
Taken from ship sim Website
3 Ghz P4 Intel or AMD equivalent processor
Even a low end AMD will pass a P4 intel easily. (I think)
Take a look at this
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/2 (http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/2)
Enter your CPU in the product comparison, then enter Intel P4 (near the bottom) and click VIEW COMPARISON
Sorry if i got it Wrong :thumbdown:
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Hello all!
Well the pre-order is out finaly!
BUT the price of boxed version and with post costs the prices is = 42 €
Well i have been working for some money to bus the Ship Simulator Extremes, and i don't want to give all my money and that the game is not working.
All is OK, except i'm not quite sure for the graphic card, because it is making me some problems on the Windows 7.
I have the Nvidia 8600 GTS with 512 MB. But when i instaled the Windows 7, it fell on the 256 MB.
As on the sistem requirements there are graphic cards as Nvidia 8800 GT, and ATI 4850, those are great graphic card and i don't think mine is in that class.
So my questions is: WILL THE SSE WORK ON MY COMPUTER??
Dxdiag is atached!
And i have another question! These price of 42 € is total price as i saw when i loged in PayPal??
Because last time when i was buying the Collectors Edition the price was 29 € and when i order it, it was the 39 €, that was the post costs i guess, but these time i think it's included in price isn't it?
Kind regards!
Capt. Mitch
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The price in Paypal would be the total price with shipping. :captain:
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And i have another question! These price of 42 € is total price as i saw when i loged in PayPal??
Because last time when i was buying the Collectors Edition the price was 29 € and when i order it, it was the 39 €, that was the post costs i guess, but these time i think it's included in price isn't it?
I have pre-ordered the boxed version and I'm only being charged €39.99, and the email confirmation which I received did not mention any additional charges such as postage costs etc.
The only thing I could think of why it's €42 is because you have selected the one which includes a donation to Greenpeace with your purchase.
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So the total price is 42 €? Yes, i did, i chose the donation edition, i want to donate them, i'm not going to die for 2 € so some money for them will be good... I like to be involved in the donations, i'f i can help even for a little i'l do it.
Thank you all on the answers!! I appreciate that! :thumbs:
Oh thank god, then i can order it today. I can't wait!!! :2thumbs:
Does anyone knows if Nvidia 8600 GT ( 256 MB ) will be enough for SSE??
Kind regards.
Capt. Mitch
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no the card will not support it, that i know of, i assume this because its below the 8800
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Hi! WOO for pre-orders! here is my dxdiag to make sure I can play.
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This has to work I hope? :P
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Hi! WOO for pre-orders! here is my dxdiag to make sure I can play.
So far as I know, thats an .dll file. and isnt the dxdiag
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Does anyone knows if Nvidia 8600 GT ( 256 MB ) will be enough for SSE??
Kind regards.
Capt. Mitch
Hi Capt.Mitch,
My card is a Nvidia 8600GT with 512MB dedicated memory and the game works OK on my computer. I have an Intel core Duo Processor E6400 2x2.13GHz which is OK too.
Traddles.
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Hi Capt.Mitch,
My card is a Nvidia 8600GT with 512MB dedicated memory and the game works OK on my computer. I have an Intel core Duo Processor E6400 2x2.13GHz which is OK too.
Traddles.
Beta test? ::)
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How else would I know.???
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Hello!
Oh thank you Traddles very, very, very much! Because i just ordered Ship Smulator Extremes yesterday and spent 42 €. You made my day! :2thumbs:
These are my specification in general:
Procesor: Intel dual core 2X 2.7 ( it can be clocked ).
Graphic Card: Nvidia 8600GT 512 MB
RAM Memory: 3 GB DDR2 800 MGhz
Hard Disc: WD 640 GB
BUT i have another questions for you Traddles if you can answer me i'l appreciate that.
What operation sistem do you use?
Windows 7, Windows Vista, Windows XP, mac, Ubuntu...??
Because my Nvidia 8600 GT was 512 MB on Windows XP SP3, BUT when i instaled the Windows 7 my graphic card Nvidia 8600 GT is now 256 MB. And these is the minimum mor SSE, so i'm scared about that.
What do you think about that?
I appreciate your help very, very much! Thank you a lot! :thumbs:
Many kind regards.
Capt. Mitch
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Hi Mitch,
Just out of curiosity, did you recently update your driver? If not, maybe you have to, or else it won't be used correctly perhaps.
Your switch to win7 might make a driver update a must.. So you could try that, if you haven't yet. :-\
Go here to get it: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
Regards,
Fred
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Thank you for advice Med_Fred.
But Windows 7 makes that automaticly. But yes, sure i tried that, i downloaded the latest driver, but nothing, i tryed some older drivers, nothing, i tryed to instal the drivers what i get with graphic card, nothing...
Nothing can help...
I registered on the Nvidia forum, but it writes that registration need to be confirmed by admin, and he didn't confirm that so... i looked on some forums, but nothing...
The only thing i found out on one forum is a very bad news. One guy sayed that the problem is in graphic card, it is to old for Windows 7, and these is the optimizing of the card with losing the memory. He adviced me to buy the new graphic card...
Ship Simulator 2008 works great, but i'm not sure for SSE.... ??? :'(
Thank you!
Kind regards.
Capt. Mitch
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That's not how it works, I am afraid, Matthew.
Uninstalling games does not 'give back' anything. Games only temporarily use the resources they need.
SSE will need more than SS08 needs. A 3Ghz processor for starters. If your machine has a 2.0Ghz processor and it runs SS08 fine, then you're just lucky that the rest of the configuration allows for this.
But it doesn't mean that SS08 'uses up' 0.4Ghz of what the internet says you should have, and returns this to you if you uninstall. It can mean that maybe there's more than one hardware configuration possible with your type/brand laptop. You better trust the dxdiag, and dont go by what a website tells you. Your own computer knows what it has onboard.
You'll need a minimum 3.0Ghz P4 processor for SSE, so you can pretty much forget about that with a 2.0Ghz cpu, I am afraid. This games will up the ante quite a bit, compared to SS08's minimum requirements, as you can see. And you need to have that whole set covered, pretty much. There's always a lucky few that can run just under specs, but I wouldn't count on it if you're too far below them.
But just so you know, installing and/or uninstalling games does not change how fast your CPU is, or how much RAM you physically have installed in your machine. It only used resources when it runs, but never changes any of your hardware specifications.
Regards,
Fred
But I Just got a flashy new laptop (2.4GHz) for SSE (as they advertised before) and now it appears ill have to get a new computer >:( might aswell not waste my money buying a game that wont even work. all I can say is its a very poor performance on the Beta testers side. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Your processor might still be good enough unless it is a 9 year old single core one.. :thumbs:
And it is THANKS to the betatesters (well alpha testers even) that the specs were changed to more realistic ones, to prevent more disspointment later. ;)
Dont insult people unless you have your facts straight, please. A lot of these people get no wages but spent most of their free time testing the game for your enjoyment.
Fred
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Haha Fred, you beat me by a few seconds!
* uhm... 16:39:07 vs. 16:46:02 ...More than a few. - Fred ;D
Well, Captain Calman, I'm afraid that's no body's fault but your own. Wouldn't it make more sense to wait until the game is available for purchase (pre-order) until you go out and buy a new machine? Remember, beta testing is so that they CAN work out the issues.. they found their issues with the 2.4 GHz requirement so they bumped it up. Don't blame the beta testers, they know what they're doing and they do it for a good reason.
Also, if you're looking for a heavy duty machine for gaming, why not get a desktop? Laptops overheat very easily and are more expensive than desktops (which have better airflow)..
And, what are you going to do when SS 2012 comes out? Buy another computer because one part might not be powerful enough? At least with a desktop you'll be able to upgrade different parts, whereas with a laptop you're stuck with maybe the ability to upgrade your hard drive..
Get a desktop, it's cheaper and more powerful. A better investment. :)
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do not buy laptops if you want good performance.
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But I Just got a flashy new laptop (2.4GHz) for SSE (as they advertised before) and now it appears ill have to get a new computer >:( might aswell not waste my money buying a game that wont even work. all I can say is its a very poor performance on the Beta testers side. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
watt are the probleme her Captain Calmac ?? are we the beta/alfa testers foult that you bay a computer to early and do not know watt the Ship Simulator Extremes Requirements are when it realises the 27th??? this is not fair to us that works to get the game that best it can be for you and all others so your can have fun and play a i hope a bug free game.
TJK
Betatester team
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Not looking good for us then...
Will there be a demo version released so we can see if SSE will run on our Computers?
How much will demo cost (Approx.)
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As a demo; it'll be free. (Or should be anyway)
Jack.
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Hi Captain Calmac. Well, if it exists, the demo version should cost around 0.00€ (approximatively), including VAT, and shipping.
Depends if you live in our outside EU. And if your first car was (or will be) green or red, too. :doh:
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:lol: :D
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It is a mistake to fixate on the CPU speed. There are complex tradeoffs between CPU and graphics processor capability. There are also other considerations, such as the speed of RAM. Multi-threading puts a higher demand on memory access than does a single core. In order for an i7 CPU to work at max speed requires DDR3 RAM.
It has been said before that the true minimum requirement can’t be known until SSE is in its final release state and has been tested on a sufficient variety of system configurations. As the minimum requirements must be based upon some notion of “minimum acceptable performanceâ€, that too needs to be defined.
The prudent thing would be to wait for release and see how your current computer performs before spending a lot of money on a new computer that might disappoint you.
I have never seen a laptop that could deliver what I consider acceptable performance on SS08.
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Totally agree with you, Marty.
Well in fact, not totally : I have seen laptops that could deliver enough performance for SS08 or Extremes at high level of details. They're called "Alienware", and cost almost 2000€.
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The Alienwares were made for hardcore gammers, so SSE would run like a dream haha.
do not buy laptops if you want good performance.
I disagree. My laptop runs over 10 games just fine :)
Scott
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well. id rather have my desktop cause i fit big stuff in it ;)
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Hello!
BUT i have another questions for you Traddles if you can answer me i'l appreciate that.[/i]
What operation sistem do you use?
Windows 7, Windows Vista, Windows XP, mac, Ubuntu...??
Because my Nvidia 8600 GT was 512 MB on Windows XP SP3, BUT when i instaled the Windows 7 my graphic card Nvidia 8600 GT is now 256 MB. And these is the minimum mor SSE, so i'm scared about that.
What do you think about that?
I appreciate your help very, very much! Thank you a lot! :thumbs:
Many kind regards.
Capt. Mitch
Hi Mitch,
My system is Windows XP service pack 3. See my reply no.88 on page 4 of this topic.
Traddles.
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well. id rather have my desktop cause i fit big stuff in it ;)
Well I was able to fit FSX, SS06 + Add on, SS08 + New Horizons, Trainz 2009 on my laptop, plus some smaller games. I'd say a 500GB hard drive on a laptop is good.
My system:
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) II Dual-Core M300 (2 CPUs), ~2.0GHz
Memory: 4096MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 3838MB RAM
Drive: C:
Free Space: 333.5 GB
Total Space: 464.8 GB
:)
Scott
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Hi trains,
Well, you're probably able to install and start the games you mentionned. Let me doubt you can run them with full details, max resolution, and smoothly. No, sorry, don't let me doubt : let me be sure about that.
The point here is that, yes, some laptops have enough power to run games decently. They're rare, but they exists. The point is that :
1. laptops are not build for this
2. a gaming laptop costs lots more money than a desktop, with the same power - I'd say approximately twice the price
3. you have no possibilities to upgrade some elements
That makes definitely laptops not a good choice for gaming - unless no other choice, or lots of money to waste :)
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Well actually, I have no issues running my games with great detail. This laptop runs better than my old one, and that handled games well :)
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I think I have to agree with what Denis is saying...besides, I actually think i'd rather be sat at a desk in comfort, then jiggling around trying to get comfortable with a big heavy gaming laptop on my lap. I'm also not overly fond with not having a mouse or 'proper' keyboard (With the indents in the keys). I find typing to be quite difficult.
Another problem I also come accross with my mums laptop is that unless you're charging it nearly constantly, you'll run out of battery quite quickly..which I find really irritating, because i'm constantly having to give up system performance to give more battery life. I also find that my lap tends to feel as though its on fire, because it gets awfully hot too...
I also like the idea with Desktops that I can at least upgrade parts when I need to...on top of the fact that you can't really do that with laptops, the price of them is rediculous in comparasin to the cracking hardware that you'll get in a desktop for the same value...
Overall, i'll always have desktops I think :lol: And whilst the Laptop is handy if you need to check things on the go, moving around the house, they're not really built for gaming I don't think...yeah sure, you can get gaming laptops, but I just don't think they're very comfortable either to play on. As in, the general experience. From the overheating to charging, or just how awkwardly they sit on your lap...
Jack.
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well said jack.
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i got a acer 8943 50bnss which basicly means a intel i5 with 2,40ghz stock going up to 2,66ghz if needed a ati radeon mobility hd5650 with 1gb and 4gb of ddr3 ram. This means that my Gta SanAndreas runs 24fps.
But as jack i rather use my desktop i7 975 3,75ghz, asusrampage 2 extreme, geforce 9800gtx+ 512mb, 3gb ddr3 kingston ram on win xp 32bit which give me 90 to 140fps in Gta... and after the upcoming gpu upgrade maybe even more...
SSEX on custom max settings here i come!
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Your processor might still be good enough unless it is a 9 year old single core one.. :thumbs:
And it is THANKS to the betatesters (well alpha testers even) that the specs were changed to more realistic ones, to prevent more disspointment later. ;)
Dont insult people unless you have your facts straight, please. A lot of these people get no wages but spent most of their free time testing the game for your enjoyment.
Fred
Correct me if im wrong, but im sure quite a lot of people in this forum would give anything to be a alpha/beta/whatever tester for SSE? I certainly would ???
And also would a AMD Athlon II X2 215 (2.7 GHz) work on SSE? Ive taken my laptop back to PC world, and am considering buying a COMPAQ Presario from Currys, so i was wondering if it would be within the requirements??
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i will correct you then. you can ask fred if its fun. i did and he said its a lot of hard work. its not just playing the game and if you find a bug then you report it. they TEST certain things and have a list of things to do to test the game.
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I forgot to ask this query:
According to the minimum specifications for SSE, it mentions that your graphic card need to have at least Shader model 3.0
Does anyone have any idea how I can check to make sure my graphic card has at least Shader model 3.0 version?
Sorry if I'm about to open a can of worms!!!!!! :doh:
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run dxdiag. click start>run>dxdiag
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Here's my dxdiag....I can't find anything in it which say if I have at least Shader model 3.0
EDIT: dxdiag removed, the query has been answered.
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Here's my dxdiag....I can't find anything in it which say if I have at least Shader model 3.0
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=GeForce+8800+GT+shader
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=GeForce+8800+GT+shader
Many thanks, Denis :2thumbs:
Never thought of google my graphic card's specifications :doh: At least my graphic card have Shader Model 4.0 :thumbs:
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Just for a bit of insight guys, yesterday my new graphics card arrived (Nvidia geforce 9800 GT) and i installed it and decided to test it, i used the game Just cause 2 because it is farely new and has simular specs to SSE, on my 2.3GHz quad core processor and 3gb memory (an the new card) it ran smoothly with no lag at all, now i don't know if this will reflect on SSE as they are both very different games but i think with specs roughly like mine, it should run fine :)
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I have that card to and works perfect on SSE Twistedlordi and you CPU are good enough to i think
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I think I'm set. ;D With FSX installed plus many other games and programs, I have 64.4GB left on my hard drive, plus 4GB of RAM. My graphics card can run FSX on full yes, FULL graphics capability with no issues whatsoever. :2thumbs:
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Hi,
Well I would not just rely on another game running fine. FSX isn't brand new anymore.
I have had it run fine on my old machine and that was below specs for SSE. You'd better base it on the actual requirements and your system specification. :thumbs:
Fred.
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Ok, I think thid one is the right DxDiag..
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It will not work even if you tried. sorry :'(
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How did you come to that conclusion, it looks ok to me...
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Why not? It seems like a top-end computer? It is quite similar to my own (desktop) rig, and I can run most current games at max detail/AA in 3D (twice the workload).
Looks like you have a great laptop there CptnChris, wish I had one like it!
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1.6 GHZ prossesor!!!! :doh: I think it is a netbook.
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It will not work even if you tried. sorry :'(
You have been warned before about making statements like that based upon scant understanding.
The way you have responded to those who have attempted to help you get your own computer to work casts doubt on your ability to understand.
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Ok, I think thid one is the right DxDiag..
This one should work pretty well. But you must have enabled some sort of low comsumption mode, I don't think 1.6Ghz is the best frequency you can reach with an I7 Q720 !
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This one should work pretty well. But you must have enabled some sort of low comsumption mode, I don't think 1.6Ghz is the best frequency you can reach with an I7 Q720 !
:lol:
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Hi Denis,
That would depend upon whether turbo boost is enabled in the bios, but the ASUS specifications and reviews suggest that it performs quite well as a gaming laptop.
The answer will not be known until it can be tried on the release.
If he has that computer, he should wait before thinking about replacing it. With luck, the wait will only be another week or so.
Regards,
Marty
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Hi Marty,
I don't think it's a bios setting, might be a Windows 7 or Asus specific software setting.
Asus laptops (at least mine) come with a software called Super Hybrid Engine, with several profiles you can choose :
low performance (but longest battery life), medium, high, super high performance.
You can set the perfomance/consumption settings through Windows Seven power management MMC too.
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Dont confuse the Clarksfield 720 with the Bloomfield 920.
The Core i7 920 was the first Nehalem to reach the market in 2008, it's a desktop processor that runs at 2.66GHz stock.
The Core i7 Mobile 720 is a whole different CPU, came out just under a year ago, and will indeed run at 1.6GHz stock with up to 2.8GHz for 'Turbo boost'.
Link to intel's 720 product spec page (http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=43122)
1.6 GHZ prossesor!!!! :doh: I think it is a netbook.
Most netbooks only have a single core without hyperthreading. The 720 has 4 cores able to process 2 threads each, giving a very roughly estimated processing power (assuming compatible software) of 12.8GHz.
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I have a 3,2Ghz prosessor and 8Gb ram so I think this comp should handel it :)
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I have a 3,2Ghz prosessor and 8Gb ram so I think this comp should handel it :)
Another important consideration is your graphic card ;)
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ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series, I know this comp handels it :thumbs:
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ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series, I know this comp handels it :thumbs:
Glad to hear that :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
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I have the Asus - Laptop / Intel® Core™ i7 Processor / 17.3" Display / 6GB Memory / 500GB Hard Drive - ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870
I know its good enough, but to bad its at best buy, and possible at the Asus factory getting the HDD fixed..... So ill miss the release of the best game ever :'(
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Hi Chris,
Look at it in another light, although you'll miss the release of the game, you will have that joy to come.
The fun will come for you, just not on the day it was released. You'll enjoy it all the same :)
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Hi Chris,
Look at it in another light, although you'll miss the release of the game, you will have that joy to come.
The fun will come for you, just not on the day it was released. You'll enjoy it all the same :)
I know how that feels... :|
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Hi Chris,
Look at it in another light, although you'll miss the release of the game, you will have that joy to come.
The fun will come for you, just not on the day it was released. You'll enjoy it all the same :)
:2thumbs:I know how that feels... :|
Yeah :-\
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I know its good enough, but to bad its at best buy, and possible at the Asus factory getting the HDD fixed..... So ill miss the release of the best game ever :'(
Im in the same boat, so to say, my ASUS gfx card is in for a long service as well.
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Im in the same boat, so to say, my ASUS gfx card is in for a long service as well.
Asus has great parts, they just need to put it together a little more carefully, and better. Do more tests on them and etc... Asus had made parts for a long time, i guess they are still new on putting everything together. :-\
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AMD triple core 2,5 ghz
4GB ram
and Geforce GTX 260 superclocked, it will run smooth i hope :P
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I have Pentium Dual Core 3.30 GHZ.
Nvidia 9800 GT Overclocked to 650 Core clock plus Shader's and Memory.
And 3 GB Ram. Plus Windows 7.
Think I should be good?
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Hi Shamuboy,
You should be ok to run SSE, but please, don't hold me to it! ;D
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Guys, Follow this link for the Minimum System Requirements:
http://www.shipsim.com/products/shipsimulatorextremes
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Hi NBRYANT24,
Your system seems capable on paper, not sure of the graphics card though.
As always, please don't hold me to it! :)
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That's the problem, I don't know if my graphics card or my CPU is better than the requirements or not.
The CPU is better, but the graphic card is a bit lower, since is the equivalent to a 9500GT
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Alright. Thanks lads, I'll look into getting a better graphics card.
No problem,
Let us know if you decide on anything different :)
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Alright. Thanks lads, I'll look into getting a better graphics card.
Just an opinion. Since the game is almost here, try it with your graphic card, and different settings, then decide if you need to change. Then we will help again :2thumbs:
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The CPU is better, but the graphic card is a bit lower, since is the equivalent to a 9500GT
Oh dear...i have a 9400GT :doh:
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Oh dear...i have a 9400GT :doh:
i have a 9600m gt
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Hey its a good thing i looked at this thread. Here is my system specs tell me if I meet the minimal:
Processor: AMD Athlon Dual-Core QL-64 2.10GHZ
RAM: 3GB
Windows 7 32 bit
Graphics Card: Geforce 8200M G
I have Ss08 and since you guys mention that it doesn't take advantage of Multi-cores, the game runs pretty smooth. So hopefully I'm not in the dog house on this one. Plus maybe Vstep will release a lite version of SSE to accept most systems. I see alot of developers doing that these days as they want everyone to be able to use their products with minimal problems.
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As I feared my PC is under powered for this program. But its ok I will upgrade as soon as I find a proper job lol. I was wondering if there is anyway to turn down the quanitiy of buildings and vegitation as there are so many building around ports that its not helping. Its almost playable out at see far from land 10 to 12fps but getting near the docks it grinds down to 4 or 5 FPS. There dont seem to be as many options that can be turned off in the options as there are in other games/sims.
I get very very good FPS with every other game I play. In FSX with a complex addon like the VRS Superbug I never drop below 30fps even in a heavy traffic airfield. I get good FPS with Battlefield2 Bad Company. This is currently the only game I have that I cannot get comfortable performance ie 20fps+.
Back to the drawing board.
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That doesn't sound good then...
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I assume my:
"Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.4GHz""
Will not be useful either for SSE... :-\
It should be enough, I have "Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T9400 @ 2.53GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.53GHz", 2GB ram, Nvidia 9600M GT, Windows XP on my laptop and it works ok on Ship Simulator Extremes
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At what requirements the game would work ?
Win7
4 GB RAM
ATI Radeon 5770 1 GB
Intel i5 750 - 2.66 GHZ going into turbo gaming mode to 3.2 GHZ
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Hi Beleg32, and welcome to the forums!
Here you go:
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System requirements
Operating system: Windows XP (Min. service pack 2), Windows Vista or Windows 7.
32 and 64 bits OS supported
Memory: 2GB (Windows XP) or 3GB (Vista or Windows 7)
Processor: 3 Ghz P4 Intel or AMD equivalent processor
Video card: Geforce 8800GT or ATI Radeon 4850 with 256MB ram (At least Shader model 3.0)
Hard disc space: 3,5GB
Drive: 4x PC DVD-ROM
Input controllers: Mouse with scroll wheel
Sound: DirectX 9.0c compatible
DirectX: Version 9.0c
Controller: Optional controller support DirectX 9.0c compatible
Internet: Broadband Internet connection required for Multiplayer
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What you listed as your specs should theorethically do well.
Regards,
Fred