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English forum => Ship Simulator 2008 => General discussions => Topic started by: ritesh on October 20, 2009, 06:59:03
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How do you make lots of smoke coming out of the funnels.
On the titanic it is going 20 knots and still not a lot of smoke coming out ???
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It wouldn't matter how fast she is going, the same amount of smoke will come out, because the boilers run at a consistent heat, only the transmission and gearing changes to change speed, that is why there are only a few speeds for her to go.
And no, there is no way to change it.
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There should not be a lot of smoke from well fired boilers under steady sailing. The model is designed to be as realistic as possible.
There are many topics about Titanic on this forum, if you are interested in learning about her.
Gearing, Austin? I think you have her confused with a diesel tractor, or a steam turbine.
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Do her props run at a constant speed? I have no clue how titanic works, lol.
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Do her props run at a constant speed?
Yes they do, when the engines are running at constant speed.
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Hi ritesh,
I have moved this topic to 'General Discussions'.
It would help us all to help you if you could read the posting guidelines here,
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,11578.0.html
Regards, Dave
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Looking at your various postings Ritesh, your Titanic doesn't seem to have a lot of wash. You doesn't seem to have much smoke from Titanic. You were saying that Titaniic's fast wasn't fast (by which I think you might mean that it didn't look very fast. Is that right?)
I can't see that you've ever posted your DXdiag, Ritesh, so I can't be sure, but I suspect that your graphics card is a low-spec one, or perhaps you have an old driver or something.
If you have posted your DXdiag, can you let me know in which thread? Thanks.
[update] Found it here
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,16011.25/topicseen.html
OK, it's a low-spec graphics card. That is probably a lot of the problem.
[edit] Typo
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Hi Terry,
Oh dear, see my signature. :doh: :doh:
There are so many topics from ritesh that I got confused. ???
It is not only the onboard graphic chip that is the problem but I won't go into that here.
Regards, Dave
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Looking at your various postings Ritesh, your Titanic doesn't seem to have a lot of wash. You doesn't seem to have much smoke from Titanic. You were saying that Titaniic's fast wasn't fast (by which I think you might mean that it didn't look very fast. Is that right?)
I can't see that you've ever posted your DXdiag, Ritesh, so I can't be sure, but I suspect that your graphics card is a low-spec one, or perhaps you have an old driver or something.
If you have posted your DXdiag, can you let me know in which thread? Thanks.
[update] Found it here
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,16011.25/topicseen.html
OK, it's a low-spec graphics card. That is causing there to be no smoke and no wash from Titanic.
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,16011.msg209307.html#msg209307
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Make sure you didn't make the mistake I did and not realize smoke was turned off in the graphics options. I wondered for months why I never got any smoke and was shocked to find it was an option that was unticked.
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His picture clearly shows that he does have smoke, just not as much as he expects.
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Do her props run at a constant speed? I have no clue how titanic works, lol.
Titanic has 2 huge triple expansion steam engines which i believe were directly connected to the 2 props. Now her center prop was steam turbine driven but with the triple expansion engines it was direct gearing i believe.
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Then how do they reverse her and such? And slow down?
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Master Captain said it. There are triple expansion reciprocating engine driving side propellers (3 blades each) and the steam outlet from both engine went to a low pressure steam turbine driving itself the center propeller (four blades but smaller diameter). As all reciprocating marine engine, they were reversible. While a steam turbine is not. You can see in the movie Titanic, the watchkeeping engineer when received the full astern order from the bridge, ordering to stop both engines to restart them on the other side, and rushing to close a big valve wheel, wich is the turbine main inlet steam, in order to isolate and then stop it. Those engines were very flexible, to increase speed send more steam, to decrease send less steam (by increasing/decreasing the steam flow via a distributor, exactly like an hydraulic engine).
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Please don't ask why there is no smoke from the rear funnel.. ;)
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Hi Saltydog.
Why is there no smoke from the false rear funnel? ;D
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Because it was a dummy..(only for you, Terry ;D )
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You can get smoke out of the rear funnel if you set fire to the deck chairs.
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You can get smoke out of the rear funnel if you set fire to the deck chairs.
Or if you're cooking one hell of a dinner. ;)
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You can get smoke out of the rear funnel if you set fire to the deck chairs.
Or if you set light to your computer. ;D
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Or if they had dogs in there that farted a lot.. ;D
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Or if they had dogs in there that farted a lot.. ;D
yeah, but that might be green smoke...
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So it works like a water wheel, running on steam. You change the direction steam is moving and it reverses.
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It's a little more complicated since it's a piston engine.
All you wish to know about Titanic engines is here : http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/titanic_prime_mover~chapter-0~part-5.html
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very good website, read through the whole thing, nice find ;)
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Looking at your various postings Ritesh, your Titanic doesn't seem to have a lot of wash. You doesn't seem to have much smoke from Titanic. You were saying that Titaniic's fast wasn't fast (by which I think you might mean that it didn't look very fast. Is that right?)
I can't see that you've ever posted your DXdiag, Ritesh, so I can't be sure, but I suspect that your graphics card is a low-spec one, or perhaps you have an old driver or something.
If you have posted your DXdiag, can you let me know in which thread? Thanks.
[update] Found it here
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,16011.25/topicseen.html
OK, it's a low-spec graphics card. That is probably a lot of the problem.
[edit] Typo
Look in "why titanic goes to slow on full?
you will find my DXdiag there
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Make sure you didn't make the mistake I did and not realize smoke was turned off in the graphics options. I wondered for months why I never got any smoke and was shocked to find it was an option that was unticked.
Let me try :-\
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yeah, but that might be green smoke...
Lol
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Make sure you didn't make the mistake I did and not realize smoke was turned off in the graphics options. I wondered for months why I never got any smoke and was shocked to find it was an option that was unticked.
Ahoy Jammy,
What version of ShipSimulator are you talking about? I got SS2008 v 1.4.2 build 1038 and there is no, I repeat NO option to set the smoke on or off.
Or maybe you're trying to pull mine and everybodys else leg :doh:
Regards
Aad (the Pirate)
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Hi Aad,
The slider under Particles controls smoke and wash. Raising it too high can crash an underspec computer.
If one reads his posts and looks at his pictures:
He does have smoke, though not up to his unrealistic expectation.
He does get up to ~20 knots, which is about the fastest Titanic does in the sim.
He has been misled by a video that was made in a sea that produced a greater bow wave than in a harbor.
The underspec computer simply takes longer to get up to the max speed, and that indicated speed can be considerably higher than the true speed calculated from distance/clock time.
Regards,
Marty
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Ahoy Marty,
As you can see on the attached picture, I'm using the dutch version of SS08. Please point out to me which slider belongs to that "Particles Control".
Many thanks in advance.
Best regards
Aad
BTW: glad to see you back :D
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Hi Aad, I think he means this.. :)
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Hi Aad,
Near the bottom, where it says “Effect Tuning†(Effectinstellingen), the top slider labeled “visibility distance of the bow waterâ€, or words to that effect, affects both the view distance for smoke and for the bow wash.
Look, Aad, I don’t mind too much when you make up your own words for our words that describe things, but when you make up your own words for the things themselves, that is confusing. I have complained to Mad_Fred about this, but you keep doing it.
Regards,
Marty
Notice that what is changed is how close you have to zoom in on Titanic before you see any smoke. It is not directly a control on the density of the smoke.
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BTW: glad to see you back :D
Look, Aad, I don’t mind too much when you make up your own words for our words that describe things, but when you make up your own words for the things themselves, that is confusing. I have complained to Mad_Fred about this, but you keep doing it.
A usual warm response!
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Hi WM,
I doubt that I need to explain that to Aad, but for your benefit:
By “you†I meant the Dutch. The context is a difficulty that Fred will remember.
I got an email from a Dutch member about the ME tutorial. He couldn’t find the Area object in the list. From other words he used, it was clear that he was using Fred’s Dutch translation of my tutorial. I knew that Fred had used the English words for objects, etc. because the Dutch version of the ME was in English.
When I checked with Fred, he told me that the latest version of the ME was in Dutch. This brought up the difficulty alluded to in my post to Aad:
Is the term used for the Area object one of the Dutch synonyms for the English word “Areaâ€, or had the Dutch developers chosen a name for that object that was not the Dutch equivalent of “Areaâ€?
In English, the choice of “Area†is arbitrary; an American developer might have called it a “Placeâ€, “Plateâ€, “Widgetâ€, “Socketâ€, etc.
Regards,
Marty
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At least that makes some sense.
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Hi Aad,
Near the bottom, where it says “Effect Tuning†(Effectinstellingen), the top slider labeled “visibility distance of the bow waterâ€, or words to that effect, affects both the view distance for smoke and for the bow wash.
Look, Aad, I don’t mind too much when you make up your own words for our words that describe things, but when you make up your own words for the things themselves, that is confusing. I have complained to Mad_Fred about this, but you keep doing it.
Regards,
Marty
Notice that what is changed is how close you have to zoom in on Titanic before you see any smoke. It is not directly a control on the density of the smoke.
Hi
I don't understand where is it
Please point out where is it :2thumbs:
Regards,
Ritesh
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I cant get any smoke at all to come out at all on the ships with smoke coming out
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Ahoy captancook1,
and welcome to the Forum
First of all: Congratulations. You really must be the winnar in the Competition called: "Waking up dead threads."
Didn't You noticed that the date of the last reply is from october, 22nd 2009?
And before somebody will answer Your question, it would be a good idea to register your copy of the Ship Simulator on this Forum.
Kind Regards
Aad