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Title: Moderators
Post by: wisemenkom on July 20, 2008, 06:30:44
Is it just me or do these moderators have too much time on their hands? Going around trying to justify there positions by blockading ones will of free speech. Most of us are adults here yet they have the nerve to speak to you as if you were their child. I will continue to say what is on my mind and express my opinions in any way I feel is necessary if it's here or on the www itself and if my topics or replies end up in argument or debate so what. Is this forum communist or something? What are they going to do lock your post or polls. Scary stuff huh...
Title: Re: Moderators
Post by: NathanC on July 20, 2008, 07:55:52
Seems to me you're the only one who feels that way - and no, you can express your opinion on this forum. I find the moderators very polite and friendly, so you must be going wrong somewhere.
Title: Re: Moderators
Post by: wisemenkom on July 20, 2008, 07:57:21
You must not be paying attention to what they do. Telling other grown men what to do.
Title: Re: Moderators
Post by: Capt.Bluebeard on July 20, 2008, 07:58:44
HI wisemenkom
this topics of yours are yous't to provocateur not word answer to, but still
over moderators are descent and fair peoples like everyone here and do only moderate that as nessesery, if you feel the spike childes that's your problem, they are nice peoples helping us out if we haw problems and do  speak to us that way we understand and block dirty talk or if i cal you a "stupid" guy, I'm sure they will block that word  we will haw a clean and a forum as nice and dissent and not a forum  field up of dirty speaking and f word.
We love over moderators
Regard
TJK/Capt.Bluebeard
god sad nathanC
Seems to me you're the only one who feels that way - and no, you can express your opinion on this forum. I find the moderators very polite and friendly, so you must be going wrong somewhere.
Title: Re: Moderators
Post by: wisemenkom on July 20, 2008, 08:01:28
If you and I were to get into a heated debate one of them would be on here telling us to stop like we are children or something. Do other forums have moderators?
Title: Re: Moderators
Post by: NathanC on July 20, 2008, 08:01:36
You must not be paying attention to what they do. Telling other grown men what to do.

Then they're moderators aren't they? if they feel they have to they will tell you what to or not to do.

If you and I were to get into a heated debate one of them would be on here telling us to stop like we are children or something. Do other forums have moderators?

Well yes, that's there job, keeping us all happy and friendly (Or at least some of us)

All other forums i know of have moderators. They're needed a lot in some cases.

www.hangsim.com/forums

Take a look at there moderators on the older forum, then you would of appreciated ours.
Title: Re: Moderators
Post by: Capt.Bluebeard on July 20, 2008, 08:03:45
If you and I were to get into a heated debate one of them would be on here telling us to stop like we are children or something. Do other forums have moderators?
yes all serious forum
Title: Re: Moderators
Post by: wisemenkom on July 20, 2008, 08:04:01
I guess. I've always looked at things from another perspective.
Title: Re: Moderators
Post by: wisemenkom on July 20, 2008, 08:10:53
I could understand if someone was using foul language, racist, or discriminatory remarks and things of that nature. But when we are simply in a debate, getting points across or expressing opinions there is no need for intervention.
Title: Re: Moderators
Post by: mvsmith on July 20, 2008, 08:18:36
Perhaps if you were to learn how to spell and to construct grammatically correct sentences, they would be less likely to assume that you are a child. Those are certainly skills you will have to acquire if you have any hope of obtaining a Master’s ticket from a maritime academy of any standing.
The childish belief that you can display intelligence simply by finding fault with things is also a sign of immaturity. If you were to make one positive contribution to this forum, that might help to change the negative impression you have made on many of us.
Title: Re: Moderators
Post by: NathanC on July 20, 2008, 08:19:09
I could understand if someone was using foul language, racist, or discriminatory remarks and things of that nature. But when we are simply in a debate and getting points across there is no need for intervention.

Moderators follow each topic caefully (I'm sure you'll find one start discussing in this topic soon) and will only intervene if they feel it is needed.

In the "Debut of the Shipyard" topic you created Terry offered to keep the topic open if the unpleasentness stopped. The only person i saw unpleasentness coming from was you.

"I wrote exactly what you meant. Take it how you want"

"I think guys that like the small boats are the ones that can't navigate and manoeuvre the large ships. I watch guys all the time during online play. Though I do take into consideration that there are many kids that play the game."

This isn't exactly polite. Ok, so it's your opinion, but there was no need for the hint of rudeness towards other players, especially the ones who prefer the smaller vessels.

You responded to Terry with "Do what you like. It makes absolutely no difference to me"

So there you say you don't mind if the topic is closed but now you are upset because the moderator intervenes.

I think the moderators were fair there.
Title: Re: Moderators
Post by: wisemenkom on July 20, 2008, 08:21:15
Perhaps if you were to learn how to spell and to construct grammatically correct sentences, they would be less likely to assume that you are a child. Those are certainly skills you will have to acquire if you have any hope of obtaining a Master’s ticket from a maritime academy of any standing.
The childish belief that you can display intelligence simply by finding fault with things is also a sign of immaturity. If you were to make one positive contribution to this forum, that might help to change the negative impression you have made on many of us.



I could care less about your opinion of me. You are of no importance.
Title: Re: Moderators
Post by: NathanC on July 20, 2008, 08:24:10

I could care less about your opinion of me. You are of no importance.

With comments like that, i am amazed you find it suprising when moderators post in your topics.
Title: Re: Moderators
Post by: wisemenkom on July 20, 2008, 08:24:45
What was said in that post wasn't unpleasant to me. We all were just voicing our opinions.
Title: Re: Moderators
Post by: NathanC on July 20, 2008, 08:29:25
What was said in that post wasn't unpleasant to me. We all were just voicing our opinions.

What did you say to mvsmith?

"I could care less about your opinion of me"

Well, i'm sure some people would say

"I could care less about your opinion on our moderators."


I suggest this topic is closed. I don't want a warning from the mods, of course, that is there job though.
Title: Re: Moderators
Post by: wisemenkom on July 20, 2008, 08:31:26
I'm positive they do. But I respect that. Just as I respect everyone else's opinion, though it may not seem like it.
Title: Re: Moderators
Post by: Shipaddict on July 20, 2008, 09:04:18
Hi,

Look at one of our moderators:

[RWP]DJM

He is probably the most fair mod of the lot! ;) There job is to keep the forum running smoothly and maintain friendliness. If you come with a positive attitude, you are very likely to get a better attitude back.

So really, just be friendly in the first place, but if you are complaining or whatever, do it "professionally"

SA
Title: Re: Moderators
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on July 20, 2008, 09:05:41
But when we are simply in a debate, getting points across or expressing opinions there is no need for intervention.

No no no, you see the difference is, when you are "expressing" your opinion, you do it the wrong way, you come accross to be very ignorant, i will be honest with you. Because i know myself, if you don't quit the attitude with the moderators, you won't be here much longer.

They do a great job here and if you aren't happy with them, (and you seem the only one) then that is your problem, they aren't going back down first.

Jack.
Title: Re: Moderators
Post by: wisemenkom on July 20, 2008, 09:05:55
Hi,

Look at one of our moderators:

[RWP]DJM

He is probably the most fair mod of the lot! ;) There job is to keep the forum running smoothly and maintain friendliness. If you come with a positive attitude, you are very likely to get a better attitude back.

So really, just be friendly in the first place, but if you are complaining or whatever, do it "professionally"

SA

I agree. I'm not saying all of them are like that.
Title: Re: Moderators
Post by: wisemenkom on July 20, 2008, 09:08:32
I see where this is going again.
Title: Re: Moderators
Post by: NathanC on July 20, 2008, 09:08:51
I agree. I'm not saying all of them are like that.

See, i agree with Jack here, you need to return the politeness the moderators give us, you.

Title: Re: Moderators
Post by: NathanC on July 20, 2008, 09:09:16
I see where this is going again.

I saw where it was going on the first post....locked
Title: Re: Moderators
Post by: [RWP]DJM on July 20, 2008, 09:33:58
Hiya guys :)

I'd like to offer an opinion on this, if I may :)

Moderators are here for a reason, as stated in the forum rules:

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Moderation
On this forum we have moderators. However, the moderators cannot be everywhere and see everything. If you see something that is against the forum rules, please report it to the moderators by pushing the 'report to moderator' button (located beneath each post). Note that the moderators have the final say-so in any situation. They will evaluate the situation on a case-by-case basis and take appropriate action where needed.

What Is A Moderator?
Moderators are volunteers who generously give their time to help board users with questions about our sites and boards. They also are the peacekeepers and are here to ensure that all visitors enjoy their stay. This means enforcing the forum rules.

What Do Moderators Do?
Moderators monitor forum posts and respond to complaints to keep the forum free of undesirable content. They enforce the board rules, and can delete posts, edit posts and more. If a moderator lets you know you are close to crossing the line, take heed of the warning. This could mean you are close to a temporary or permanent ban.

We are here to maintain the balance on the forum, posting an opinion is perfectly fine (goes without saying really :)), but there are boundaries that these opinions can exceed.  This is when we will step in and take action, when necessary.

We are not all-knowing though, and we're only human.  If you feel that a Moderator has acted unjustly, then follow the forum rules for stating as such, it's what these rules are in-place for :)

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What If I Disagree With A Moderator?
Moderators are not perfect and are only human. Disagreements occur. Try to communicate with them first on a respectful level and settle your disagreement. If you do not agree with a decision, you are not entitled to start a thread arguing about the verdict or flaming any of the moderators. Any such messages will be removed. This extends to Private Messages and email as well, and you are not entitled to insult moderators via any of these methods.

If you feel a verdict is unfair, please contact a forum administrator (preferably Wout). Inform them about the whole situation.

The FULL forum rules, can be read here:

http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,26.0.html

Regards.

Carl.
Title: Re: Moderators
Post by: wisemenkom on July 20, 2008, 09:36:02
Yeah, I just took a look at the rules. Seems I can get in trouble for this post.
Title: Re: Moderators
Post by: pauljanaway1 on July 20, 2008, 10:21:16
they are hear to keep the forum clean of rude language remeber some people are adults but also some are kids and people must use langage that is ok of kids also people who tyr to promote other games or themselfs
Title: Re: Moderators
Post by: [RWP]DJM on July 20, 2008, 10:32:16
My opinion of bad language, has always been the same.......

It's perfectly possible to get a point across, without resorting to the use of bad language.  If you had a problem in real life, would you really go ranting about it, and using bad language?  My own experience of being in retail management, proves that you only cause more problems by swearing, because people just see it as "Is that really necessary?".......

I think other words can be used to express your feelings, whether they are annoyance/dislike, or whatever ;)

I always maintain a professional attitude, especially when confronted with a major problem.  If you treat people with respect, you're more likely to get your problem resolved, and get that respect shown back to you :)

Carl.
Title: Re: Moderators
Post by: pauljanaway1 on July 20, 2008, 10:45:38
yes i would never use bad language as simpley i dont know if there are young kids on this forum and they pick up words like a sponge
Title: Re: Moderators
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on July 20, 2008, 10:47:19
I just don't use bad language because i see it as ignorant, and i think when people use bad language, they are trying to make themselves look big. I think respect is the key to everything in life. That includes this forum.

Jack.
Title: Re: Moderators
Post by: Capt.Bluebeard on July 20, 2008, 11:33:02
I just don't use bad language because i see it as ignorant, and i think when people use bad language, they are trying to make themselves look big. I think respect is the key to everything in life. That includes this forum.

Jack.

Tanks Jack that's the best post so fare, wherry god sad  ;)
Tore
TJK/Capt.Bluebeard
Title: Re: Moderators
Post by: Captain Best on July 20, 2008, 11:34:56
Tanks Jack that's the best post so fare, wherry god sad  ;)
Tore
yes totlay agreed there Capt.Bluebeard ;D

Edit: Typo ::)
Title: Re: Moderators
Post by: Captain Best on July 20, 2008, 11:50:33
By the way. where have Marcrstat gone?
Title: Re: Moderators
Post by: [RWP]DJM on July 20, 2008, 12:23:07
Yeah, I just took a look at the rules. Seems I can get in trouble for this post.

There is a good reason why I didn't remove this topic.  We could all see this as an example of "what not to do" if you have a disagreement with a member of the forum staff :)

It also allows new members to be reminded of exactly why we're here, which is always a good thing ;)

By the way. where have Marcrstat gone?

He's still around :)

Carl.
Title: Re: Moderators
Post by: wisemenkom on July 20, 2008, 12:25:57
that's understandable.
Title: Re: Moderators
Post by: NathanC on July 20, 2008, 14:53:18
I think guys that like the small boats are the ones that can't navigate and manoeuvre the large ships. I watch guys all the time during online play. Though I do take into consideration that there are many kids that play the game.

I see that as very rude  >:( People have different opinions and tastes on ships. I like to use the Furie and smaller vessels such as the P6 and Arie Visser, but i can dock the Pride of Rotterdam, Vermaas, Agile Solution etc With ease.

So, there you are. Wrong. Just because we have different tastes in ships doesn't mean we can't handle others. Think about that before you insult any more people with your comments.
Title: Re: Moderators
Post by: LucAtC on July 20, 2008, 15:28:22
Ok, NathanC, thank you but I think the question has been settled now, no need to go any further.
I'll lock the topic (if needed it could be reopened).
Kind regards,
Luc