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Title: sever rope
Post by: naauriis on July 04, 2008, 18:38:08
in real life ships can sever the towing ropes and mooring ropes but when it will be available in ship simulator? This will bee closer to realistic life And also we need river-sea ship maybe you now old russian ship VOLGOBALT  and there is link where you can see it http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=598358
Title: Re: sever rope
Post by: llamalord on July 04, 2008, 19:02:01
By sever do you mean just to cut them? :P
Title: Re: sever rope
Post by: naauriis on July 04, 2008, 21:46:39
I mean when you moor and if you have big speed rope will sever and also when tug very fast go to the rope and rope sever
Title: Re: sever rope
Post by: Capt. Le Velle on July 04, 2008, 21:49:47
so like if you pull something to hard it will break
Title: Re: sever rope
Post by: llamalord on July 04, 2008, 21:50:44
Oh I think I get it now... :-\
Title: Re: sever rope
Post by: naauriis on July 04, 2008, 21:51:39
Yea I think so
Title: Re: sever rope
Post by: sonarman on July 05, 2008, 01:02:21
Yes, it definitely can happen in real life, and if you are caught in its path it can cut you in two.
Title: Re: sever rope
Post by: Chris-S1 on July 05, 2008, 01:09:14
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Yes, it definitely can happen in real life, and if you are caught in its path it can cut you in two.

well acaly if u wach mithbusters this isnt true thay tryed it with a dead pig and thay allso tryed wier the worst u will get is some brokin bones and a deep cut :D

Chris S
Title: Re: sever rope
Post by: Minime on July 05, 2008, 01:53:26
But it is still possible whatever mithbusters say, not all the thinks they say it's right
Title: Re: sever rope
Post by: NathanC on July 05, 2008, 07:08:10
But it is still possible whatever mithbusters say, not all the thinks they say it's right

Yep, depends of Strength/size of ship
Title: Re: sever rope
Post by: naauriis on July 05, 2008, 09:08:41
When I go on tug more times rope cut when we very fast go on this rope
Title: Re: sever rope
Post by: Traddles on July 06, 2008, 15:30:23
ChrisS1,
If a wire towing rope breaks it CAN and WILL kill if you are in the way. Never mind what it says on Mythbusters (whatever that is). I know for a fact of someone who had both legs severed and bled to death before anything could be done to help. The lethal recoil of a wire hawser breaking under strain is almost unimaginable.
Title: Re: sever rope
Post by: pauljanaway1 on July 06, 2008, 15:44:18
no dount a rope will kill you i was towing a vermass once and the rope was getting longer when i started the rope was 60m and betime i let go it was allmost 500m
Title: Re: sever rope
Post by: TerryRussell on July 06, 2008, 16:00:30
ChrisS1,
If a wire towing rope breaks it CAN and WILL kill if you are in the way. Never mind what it says on Mythbusters (whatever that is). I know for a fact of someone who had both legs severed and bled to death before anything could be done to help. The lethal recoil of a wire hawser breaking under strain is almost unimaginable.

ChrisS1,

Take a look at these links:
http://www.harbour-marine.com.au/news-articles/LNG-Journal2004.html

http://unols.org/publications/winch_wire_handbook__3rd_ed/12_useful_info.PDF

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nzbound/ow5sept1874.htm
(at the foot of the page, there is a report of a death from a rope hawser back in 1874)

I think you'll agree that these may be somewhat more authoritative than a cheaply-made TV program, eh?  ;)
Title: Re: sever rope
Post by: pigdog on July 06, 2008, 18:42:38
Oh it will kill you!

I've seen a towing wire break and the bare end cut a slice in the steel accomodation of a tug, if that doesn't kill you then the shackle or link from the pennant will come back and cave your head in for you, not a nice way to go.

A polyprop, and or natural fibre rope can do just as much damage depending on the size of it and the strain it's under, it may not cut through steel but it will dent it and take your arms and legs off leading to death, no question about that.
Title: Re: sever rope
Post by: Minime on July 06, 2008, 21:38:03
Isn't there a new kind of rope, that just falls down if it breaks
Title: Re: sever rope
Post by: Chris-S1 on July 06, 2008, 21:51:12
iv herd of that its a nilon base but i dont think it just falls its more like a spring so if ur holding it it vbrates a lot thats just what iv herd from a guy i no at the local regata

Chris S
Title: Re: sever rope
Post by: Minime on July 06, 2008, 21:52:52
I heard it something nano stuff, but I'm not sure
Title: Re: sever rope
Post by: llamalord on July 06, 2008, 23:34:32
Personally, I still think this is a good idea. :-\
Title: Re: sever rope
Post by: sonarman on July 07, 2008, 17:27:04
I have never seen one break, but once when our ship was in a storm we made for the port of Fishguard, they managed to get ropes ashore but the ship rolled so violently in the swell that the rope ripped the huge steel bits (bollards secured by 4 two inch diameter steel bolts) straight out of the deck and then  tore right through the steel railings along the ships side like matchsticks, the force acting on these ropes is sometimes incredible.

In another incident while canting ship (turning with ropes) in the River Clyde at Glasgow we used a small rope to keep the main turning force rope out of the ships paddle box, a friend of mine forgot to let go of the small rope as the tension on the large rope came on and was literally catapaulted out into the middle of the river, luckily he was a good swimmer and survived the incident intact.
Title: Re: sever rope
Post by: llamalord on July 07, 2008, 17:28:58
I saw one that was broken after a bad storm on the lake that I boat on and the ship was swinging in the wind by one rope. ;D