Ship Simulator
English forum => Development corner => Topic started by: RMS Gigantic on June 17, 2008, 06:52:02
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I'm going to take these pics as hints that VSTEP will add not only the restaraunt I mentioned in another thread, but also the interior to the 3rd funnel deckhouse in later Ship Simulators!
First pic: I've already shown this sign for a resturaunt, but still.
Second pic:This sliding door on the 3rd funnel deckhouse is in the open position, but there is only a wall behind it. The same is true for the sliding door on the other side of the deckhouse.
Third pic: The stairs that SHOULD be here lead to the 3rd funnel deckhouse
It seems, according to the ship's blueprints, that the stairs and port side sliding door both lead to a deckchair storage room, while the starboard sliding door leads to the officer's mess hall.
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what i want to know is why did they model the 2nd class stair case and not the 1st class one
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Yeah let's hook up and have a dinner on board Titanic.
(for God sake... this is a ship simulator) ::)
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[edit by Terry] Multiple short-length cross-posting combined into a single post for clarity.
pauljanaway1 :
no i think that it dose nood more interior. titanic was the grandest ship ever biult and from what is modeled you dont get any sence of grandness. i donl mean build all the inside but parts of it like the grand stair case and the gym and pool and other bits
RMS Gigantic :
because then you wouldn't be able to access the stern
pauljanaway1 :
still they should have put it in
RMS Gigantic :
or the first class restaraunt the sign shows.
Quote from: pauljanaway1 on June 17, 2008, 11:42:00
still they should have put it in
Where would it lead? The stair case went down to F deck.
Then there's the Aft one.
Quote from: RMS Gigantic on June 17, 2008, 11:43:11
Where would it lead? The stair case went down to F deck.
Then there's the Aft one.
I suppose a second path to the first class prominade is an option.
pauljanaway1 :
yes my point the star case is the grandest part of the ship so they could put it in
RMS Gigantic :
Grand Staircase.
I was thinking if they connected the different classes' deck areas.
Like linking the 3rd class well decks with a 3rd class hallway.
Or the 1st class deck area with the 1st class prominade with the Grand Staircase,
pauljanaway1 :
yes that is what i meant just dident word it well
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What's the point of modelling the Titanics interior? It's not "Titanic Simulator 2008" is it? And i can't see any topics asking for interiors of the Pride of Rotterdam, Red Eagle, Ocean Star etc. So what
's so special about the Titanic? Not everyone here "loves" the Titanic, and wouldn't care if it did have an interior or not.....
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would rather like them to focus on making the bridges on the ships look realistic, with switches and other stufs like that. Ofcoarse it wold be nice with Titanics interior, but isn't it a bit much to ask for?
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well in the end i would like the inside of every ship modeled but you stat somwhere
the jet jet 4 has the inside modeld. so dose the 3 speed boats and the new yaute as i belive
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Besides RMS Gigantic... I think you should send a mail to NASA and ask them if they can provide you with a mathematical monster of a system to render all this Titanic interior and to simulate a highly realistic sinking..lol! :-*
BTW you cannot connect a Nvidia graphic card to that kind of system at all. :P
What you are really asking for is a "Titanic Simulator". The next thing you will ask for (after my brain storming) is panicking people... and you can sit there running the "Titanic sinking scene" over and over just the same way as you hit the replay button when you watch the "Titanic movie". All trough this may sound nice for you it sounds AWFUL for me...People died in that accident (or whatever it's called) and I don't care how many **** years it is since that time because I think some of you "Titanic lovers" should get a "brain wash" because it looks to me that you all LOVE to see what happens when a ship full of people sinks... its DEATH for christ sake!!! >:( >:(
Now I'm chilling out... I still don't get it -why- it's so interesting to have a fully designed Titanic in this game. But I can imagine that it got something to do with water flowing into the decks...and yeah that's quite interesting (not) ::)
Pardon me but that was my unchangeable restrictedly locked opinion. And yes I agree with those who want to see better bridges!
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but they have allready modeled most or allmost the inside of some of the ships
Portoferraio Angel
red jet 4
Freedom 90
Marbella Delight
Watertaxi
Arie Visser
Herkules Atlas
Pioneer
also fogot to add Elbe to the list
if vstep would make sofwere so you can make your own ships for your self (like vs) as the chose of ships is very limeted and allowing people to make there own would be a great leep in the game. then it would free up a lot of time for the develipers to improve the game
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but they have allready modeled most or allmost the inside of some of the ships
Portoferraio Angel
red jet 4
Freedom 90
Marbella Delight
Watertaxi
Arie Visser
Herkules Atlas
Pioneer
Look at the size of all those ships. Not big are they? Not hard to model a few seats? Besides, i doubt VSTEP are going to spend months and months modelling the Titanics interior for a few of us who want it. I agree with JHB here.
Who actually cares if the Titanic has any interior? I wouldn't be bothered if it wasn't in the game anyway.
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i dont mind if they model it i'm just saying if all the ships has insides then it would add to the relisam
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if vstep would make sofwere so you can make your own ships for your self (like vs) as the chose of ships is very limeted and allowing people to make there own would be a great leep in the game. then it would free up a lot of time for the develipers to improve the game
NO, NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT!
I do NOT want shipsim to become like VS!
The result WILL be the game flooding with incredibly poor models by those who couldn't make a sphere on Google Sketchup to save their lives!
I like how VSTEP goes for quality over quanity!
And for you who think I'm asking, the topic was about the signs that Vstep will probably render it. They already left the doors open and the sign.
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i dont mind if they model it i'm just saying if all the ships has insides then it would add to the relisam
yeah right? realism = navigation, realistic ship dynamics, traffic conditions, weather and sea simulation, and not a darn "virtual walk-trough museum"...
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and yes you can make your own boats for VS (what are you waiting for?). If you want a extremely detailed Titanic then go ahead...the game will crash in lack of performance because the game engine is not yet designed to handle polygon-heavy ship models (like 800 000 polygons). And Titanic will have more than 800 000 if you are going to make it even better than Titanic made for SS. So one simple advice - forget it! :P
If I was you I would start to learn myself some C# (C sharp) programming, understanding the Microsoft XNA and start programming a game engine that can handle such massive stuff. Afterwards you would have to design the ship in a 3D editor with all decks and make it work with the game engine. And to simulate the sinking and all such you would have to program physics. Do you have that knowledge? Or are you just dreaming... Maybe the last is a lot more simpler than the first :P
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yeah right? realism = navigation, realistic ship dynamics, traffic conditions, weather and sea simulation, and not a darn "virtual walk-trough museum"...
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and yes you can make your own boats for VS (what are you waiting for?). If you want a extremely detailed Titanic then go ahead...the game will crash in lack of performance because the game engine is not yet designed to handle polygon-heavy ship models (like 800 000 polygons). And Titanic will have more than 800 000 if you are going to make it even better than Titanic made for SS. So one simple advice - forget it! :P
If I was you I would start to learn myself some C# (C sharp) programming, understanding the Microsoft XNA and start programming a game engine that can handle such massive stuff. Afterwards you would have to design the ship in a 3D editor with all decks and make it work with the game engine. And to simulate the sinking and all such you would have to program physics. Do you have that knowledge? Or are you just dreaming... Maybe the last is a lot more simpler than the first :P
Who said anything about me? VSTEP is the one who left the door open and a sign for a food joint!
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I think this is getting kinda of, angry, This topic was jsut about signs that VSTEP left to show there are goign to model some of the ships interior, not if we wanted it or not. (I would like a full titanic)
It is Ship Simulator, BUT the titanic WAS A SHIP, and a amazing one at that, and I think it would be awesome to show you majesty of the titanic, the SHIP, and be able to captain it as well.
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I think this is getting kinda of, angry, This topic was jsut about signs that VSTEP left to show there are goign to model some of the ships interior, not if we wanted it or not. (I would like a full titanic)
It is Ship Simulator, BUT the titanic WAS A SHIP, and a amazing one at that, and I think it would be awesome to show you majesty of the titanic, the SHIP, and be able to captain it as well.
I fully agree, about liking to see the whole thing, and everything else you said.
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What you are really asking for is a "Titanic Simulator".
Sounds good to me. Where can I puchase it?
Oh, yeah, that's right! Because no other nautical simulator on the market is teamed up with the Titanic Research & Modeling Association, every other sims' Titanic representations are remote at best, making this our best hope to see her in all her 1912 glory!
And I appreciate all the time and effort Jason De Donno is putting into this model.
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I go back to what i said - the Pride of Rotterdam is a ship too, and yet i see no topics asking for an interior of that ship - so, what's so special about this ship?
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I go back to what i said - the Pride of Rotterdam is a ship too, and yet i see no topics asking for an interior of that ship - so, what's so special about this ship?
i think the main resone is it that is is just another ship allthough it is the biggest p&o ferry there is nuffink specal about it.
titanic the biggest and grandest ship of her day and she would still be one of the grandest even today
the way she sunk hitting an ice burge at allmost full speed and amount of dead from not anough life boats the way she changed so many laws and manly because because she is not around any more
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Then i wouldn't call that a "special" ship then, i'd call that a floating safety violation ;)
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well it would be now but back then it was as safe as houses right up untill it sank
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Actually......... It's rudder was nowhere enough to turn the ship in an emergency, the crew didn't give a damn about the iceberg warning they were recieving (in fact the wireless operator told someone giving a warning to the Titanic to "Shut Up, i'm busy") and she didn't have enough lifeboats for half the people on her....As safe as houses? I think it's pretty clear she was a disaster waiting to happen, lets be thankful the Olympic didn't run into trouble before Titanic and they updated her design
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but it all went well untill she hit if she had missed she probly would have made it to new york
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That doesn't change the fact she was hugely dangerous
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if she was dangouse she would not have sailed or got her boad of trade licsence
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She did meet the required lifeboats of the time but it soesn't take a genius to figure out that there wasn't enough lifeboats - and they probably didn't realise the rudder wasn't big enough then.
She was dangerous even back then, they just didn't realise. I fail to see how a complete hazard of a ship that sank and claimed hundreds and hundreds of people can be called "Special"
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well the laws in brittan at that time was many years out of date and so titanic was infact in the eyes of the law safe to sail
and a ship of titanics size had never been biult so many things on her including the rudder where a trail
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But that still doesn't change it - the designer knew that Iron could still not be strong enough to keep the ship from sinking, and he knew there wasn't enough lifeboats. And it still doesn't change the fact that they were ignoring the iceberg warnings
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at least the grand staircase should be there,
it sounds a bit stupid, the 2nd class staircase is made, but the 1th class staircase not.
ofcourse i know the 2nd class staircase is made to get at the aft deck ;D and is very cool too.
but on the other side, making all the interior costs a lot of system requirements, since NH won't work for a lot of people i have my doubts about a fully 3d titanic ;D
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But that still doesn't change it - the designer knew that Iron could still not be strong enough to keep the ship from sinking, and he knew there wasn't enough lifeboats. And it still doesn't change the fact that they were ignoring the iceberg warnings
If the strongest material available at the time didn't work, then what WHAT WAS THERE TO USE?
Also, she could turn well by TODAY'S standards
And she didn't just meet, she PASSED the lifeboat requirement for a ship her size!
Also, no one cares about the PoR because the Titanic is the MOST FAMOUS SHIP IN HISTORY!!!!!
at least the grand staircase should be there,
it sounds a bit stupid, the 2nd class staircase is made, but the 1th class staircase not.
ofcourse i know the 2nd class staircase is made to get at the aft deck ;D and is very cool too.
but on the other side, making all the interior costs a lot of system requirements, since NH won't work for a lot of people i have my doubts about a fully 3d titanic ;D
do you think my computer with 3 GB of RAM running XP and a GeForce 8600 graphics card could do it?
Modified for double-posting, DJM.
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I go back to what i said - the Pride of Rotterdam is a ship too, and yet i see no topics asking for an interior of that ship - so, what's so special about this ship?
EXCEPT SHES NO FAMOUS
Actually......... It's rudder was nowhere enough to turn the ship in an emergency, the crew didn't give a damn about the iceberg warning they were recieving (in fact the wireless operator told someone giving a warning to the Titanic to "Shut Up, i'm busy") and she didn't have enough lifeboats for half the people on her....As safe as houses? I think it's pretty clear she was a disaster waiting to happen, lets be thankful the Olympic didn't run into trouble before Titanic and they updated her design
Also, it was the RedStar representative, he orderd full speed to reach NYC by morning to win the blue ribbon, The captain said they shouldnt, but he made him, if they were going slower like planned they could have turned. Wasnt the crew, it was Red Star.
Modified for double-posting, DJM.
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Also, it was the RedStar representative, he orderd full speed to reach NYC by morning to win the blue ribbon, The captain said they shouldnt, but he made him, if they were going slower like planned they could have turned. Wasnt the crew, it was Red Star.
IT WAS TAUGHT AT THE TIME TO KEEP WITH THE SCHEDULE!
THEY WERE TOLD NOT TO SLOW DOWN!
THE CAPTAIN DID RESPOND BY CHANGING COURSE TO GO FURTHER SOUTH!
IT WAS ON THIS NEW COURSE WHEN IT STRUCK THE ICEBURG!
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Sorry 0,0
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If the strongest material available at the time didn't work, then what WHAT WAS THERE TO USE?
Also, she could turn well by TODAY'S standards
And she didn't just meet, she PASSED the lifeboat requirement for a ship her size!
Also, no one cares about the PoR because the Titanic is the MOST FAMOUS SHIP IN HISTORY!!!!!
It's only famous because someone made a stupid movie about it and it sank! (which isn't a nice way to remember it, take the [expletive deleted by Terry] ship away for a second and think about the people who were on her) And correction, most famous floating death trap in history. And my point about the PoR wasn't about how important that ferry was - i meant can you see any posts asking for an interior on that ship?
IT WAS TAUGHT AT THE TIME TO KEEP WITH THE SCHEDULE!
THEY WERE TOLD NOT TO SLOW DOWN!
THE CAPTAIN DID RESPOND BY CHANGING COURSE TO GO FURTHER SOUTH!
IT WAS ON THIS NEW COURSE WHEN IT STRUCK THE ICEBURG!
Which adds to my point that the crew were (to put it politely) dreadful
EXCEPT SHES NO FAMOUS
Yes..but for all the wrong reasons
I'm clearly not winning here, so i may as well give up, but it was a disaster, and i don't know why that make s aship famous.
Ohhhhh look, the Red Jet just sank on a run to Southampton, lets celebrate by making a full model of her!
Modified for double-posting, DJM.
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she did go 10 miles more south to miss the ice and one other thing it was white star not red star and when traveling though ice it was cutomery to keep at service speed 21kt
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Nathan, the ship was famous PRIOR to 1997.
It was popular ever since news hit in 1912.
Also, if your idea of a dreadful crew is one that follows orders, what's your idea of a good one?
Captain: "Hard-a-starboard, full speed astern"
Crewman: *runs into the wheelhouse* hard-a-port, full speed ahead! And I stole the Captain's wallet so FREE MEALS FOR THE REST OF THE VOYAGE!*
*All the crewmen cheer*
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yes and the titanic just has somthing abot it that the por dosent have grandness
if i was merdoc on the titanic i would have done the same thing try to turn and miss the burge but i would have astern port only
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Hiya all :)
I've had to modify multiple posts in this topic, because of double-posting. Please use the Modify button on your posts, or use multiple quotes when talking to more than one member. You can add additional quotes by scrolling down a little when replying.
Thank you :)
Carl.
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Hiya all :)
I've had to modify multiple posts in this topic, because of double-posting. Please use the Modify button on your posts, or use multiple quotes when talking to more than one member. You can add additional quotes by scrolling down a little when replying.
Thank you :)
Carl.
Got it.
Still don't know why NathanC wants to sail on a ship with a crew that ignores the captain.
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Got it.
Still don't know why NathanC wants to sail on a ship with a crew that ignores the captain.
No, i just don't want to sail on a ship that has a dodgy crew (and i'm not talking about the way they responded when they saw the iceberg, i'm talking about the way they carried at full speed. Oh, i'm sorry, i didn't realise icebergs were forbidden fron floating into the southern part of the North Atlantic, going there would surely be iceberg free) and that has a rudder incapable of being useful for an emergency turn
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No, i just don't want to sail on a ship that has a dodgy crew (and i'm not talking about the way they responded when they saw the iceberg, i'm talking about the way they carried at full speed. Oh, i'm sorry, i didn't realise icebergs were forbidden fron floating into the southern part of the North Atlantic, going there would surely be iceberg free) and that has a rudder incapable of being useful for an emergency turn
They were doing what they were taught. They new full well what they were getting into, too.
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you need to remenber that it is 1912 over 95 years ago the way ships where run was very differnet from today
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you need to remenber that it is 1912 over 95 years ago the way ships where run was very differnet from today
Exactly! One of the biggest reasons Titanic is so famous is that after her sinking, innumerable rammifications were made to the design of ships and how they were run!
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for her time titanic was cutting edge as well one of the first ships to have a pool state of the art fire syteams bigger than any other ship grander than any other ship
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Heres a fact - Why did Halrand and Wolff change the Expansion joint in Britannic? Becuase they knew there was a fault in the design of Titanic.......
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but olyimpic had a happy life and did not sink
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but olyimpic had a happy life and did not sink
And that is relavant? And Olympic didn;t really have a happy life when someone jumped overboard, she collided with a warship, a tug got stuck under her stern and she hit a lightship.....
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but she did not sink
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but she did not sink
Yes but she was pretty damn close, they better pray to god this wasn't below the waterline:
(http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/2130/olympic02ty8.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
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that is only 1 compartment so would be ok
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Heres a fact - Why did Halrand and Wolff change the Expansion joint in Britannic? Becuase they knew there was a fault in the design of Titanic.......
That's a common belief. I think it was a deficiency that they would try to fix asap
Yes but she was pretty damn close, they better pray to god this wasn't below the waterline:
(http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/2130/olympic02ty8.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
What difference would that make? Did you know Titanic would have survived the iceburg collision if she had hit the thing head on?
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Yes, i did know that
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Yes, i did know that
Then why do you act like a small whole in the Olympic, probably in 2 compartments at the very MOST could doom her? That pic is nothing compared to ALL the damage of the Hawke incident, and she came out of that just fine!
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yes harland and wolf did mot just biuld anyold ships they biult ships to last
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Sorry, it's clear that so many "Titanic Lovers" have gathered up over the years it's impossible to give my opinion on the ship without being attacked by them >:(
I thought that it was Ok to give your opinion a ship in this forum?
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it is ok to give your opinon
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I'm going to take these pics as hints that VSTEP will add not only the restaraunt I mentioned in another thread, but also the interior to the 3rd funnel deckhouse in later Ship Simulators!
First pic: I've already shown this sign for a resturaunt, but still.
Second pic:This sliding door on the 3rd funnel deckhouse is in the open position, but there is only a wall behind it. The same is true for the sliding door on the other side of the deckhouse.
Third pic: The stairs that SHOULD be here lead to the 3rd funnel deckhouse
It seems, according to the ship's blueprints, that the stairs and port side sliding door both lead to a deckchair storage room, while the starboard sliding door leads to the officer's mess hall.
Should be Avaible to going on more in inside a little bit. and a Kelner to the resturant. its good to relax a little bit when your driving ;)
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well you have got plenty of time you can drive all of the ships useing the map without needing to look where you are going
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well you have got plenty of time you can drive all of the ships useing the map without needing to look where you are going
yes. and you can steer it from when your sitting on the cafe. you have the controlles always :D
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Does anyone know if the doors to the 3rd funnel deckhouse are open in SS06?
Sorry, it's clear that so many "Titanic Lovers" have gathered up over the years it's impossible to give my opinion on the ship without being attacked by them >:(
I thought that it was Ok to give your opinion a ship in this forum?
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That wasn't an opinion, that was an ATTACK!
Please don't post images like that on the forum. They can be deemed offensive, DJM.
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yes. and you can steer it from when your sitting on the cafe. you have the controlles always :D
and a very detailed map so you wont get lost or crash
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Does anyone know if the doors to the 3rd funnel deckhouse are open in SS06?
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That wasn't an opinion, that was an ATTACK!
Please don't post images like that on the forum. They can be deemed offensive, DJM.
Did you post an offensive image towards me? And my messages show what i think of Titanic don't they? So they are opinion ;)
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Did you post an offensive image towards me? And my messages show what i think of Titanic don't they? So they are opinion ;)
Nah. it made fun of anyone arguing on the internet ::)
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is that the one about the special olyimpics
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is that the one about the special olyimpics
Yes! ;D
I wasn't sure if it would get removed or not :-\
Sorry, DJM :-[
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but it is true ;D
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but it is true ;D
yup! ;D