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Title: GEforce 5900
Post by: jerome534 on June 12, 2008, 13:57:53
i know your supposed to get a nvidia geforce 5900 or an ATI 9600 but i found a geforce on a website that looks the same as nvidia geforce but is asylum i think. it is :256MB BFG Asylum GeForce FX5900 Ultra DDR AGP8x  please tell me if it is a good enough graphic card before i get it.
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: Mad_Fred on June 12, 2008, 17:42:05
Hi jerome534,

Well, not all GeForce cards are manufactored by NVIDIA. Other companies built them to, but they're all still GeForces, and this one should probably do.

But if I am honest, I would try and find a better card, because you'd be right down in the lowest regions with a 5900. I had a 6600 before the one I have now (7900) and even with that I had to tune a lot down and could not run busy missions in the bigger ports.

Better would be to get a 7 series perhaps (As you have AGP and I don't think you can do any better than that). That is, if that is within your budget of course.

Just my thoughts, as you wont be able to fully enjoy this game with the bottom range card. And maybe future updates will make it run even worse, as the game can get more demanding after updates sometimes.

Regards,
Fred
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: jerome534 on June 12, 2008, 21:18:27
thanks, i did find a very low priced geforce 6600 it is under 100$ how much would the 7900 be?
and i just found a 256MB Palit nVIDIA GeForce 7300GT DDR2 PCI-Express would that be kinda good? thanks for your help!
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: Mad_Fred on June 12, 2008, 21:28:16
I honestly can't say. It could vary a lot. I'd suggest looking around and see what you can find. Look up some reviews about cards you may find, as there are lots of different variations aswell.

I'm no expert on these things, unfortunatly.

Edit: (was writing when you edited it) A 7300GT should do good, I think. I don't know that card, but like I mentioned above, you can try to look up some reviews and such and see what the experts think about it.

Regards,
Fred
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: Dave M on June 12, 2008, 22:41:48
Hi jerome534,
I don't know if you are aware of the difference between AGP and PCI graphics cards but if your computer only has an AGP graphics slot then they are the only ones you can install. If you have PCI-Express slots in your computer then you are better off with them as they are faster. There is also a difference between PCI and PCI-Express slots, (I think).

The 'Technical Support' forum is the best place to get accurate information on this. :)

Regards, Dave
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: TerryRussell on June 12, 2008, 22:54:27
Sometimes they let me out of Tech Support.  ;D

The best card you can get is probably the 8800 GTX.

The 8600 range are pretty good as well. They are quite cheap at present. If you shop around you may find one for around the $75-100 mark.

But 7300 is not bad, although you may still have to reduce some of the settings in Ship Simulator.

Are you sure that your PC has PCI-Express slots? Make certain before you buy that card. There are a lot of different size slots for video cards and none of them are interchangeable.

For a recent PC it is probably PCI-Express but could be 16 or 32 series.
AGP is another possibility.
PCI is possible but not likely unless your PC is more than a couple of years old. (PCI is very different from PPCI-Express)

All of the GeForce cards use chipsets designed by Nvidia, but the cards themselves may be made by any of a dozen or more different manufacturers. Because they can use cheaper components or reduce the amount or speed of the card's RAM, this means that not all cards are equal. But it is very complex and it isn't always possible to figure out if card A is better than card B.

Hope that's of some use.
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: Agent|Austin on June 12, 2008, 23:10:22
I'll just but in.

I have a nVidia GeForce 6 series on my PC and ship simulator runs at LOW FPS and I have to bring the settings down pretty low. My laptop that has a nVidia GeForce 8400 (I hate ATI) can run ship simulator at full graphics (without reflections (kills my computer)).

The higher end cards may be a little more expensive but they are worth it. But also note your computer needs more then just a good graphics card to play with highest settings. RAM and your processor are also major keys.
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: jerome534 on June 12, 2008, 23:17:07
im goin for the 8600 thats the geforce 8600 GT right?
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: TerryRussell on June 12, 2008, 23:28:48
That's a pretty good card.

I have twin 8600 GT cards on the main game server here (That's the one you're on if you use MP and go to the Creators Forum site).

That gives excellent graphics, with all the settings maxed.

The PC is a quad core 2.66GHz, with 4Gb RAM, running XP Pro, which helps.
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: [RWP]DJM on June 12, 2008, 23:30:11
My server PC is quite modest compared to that one Terry ;)
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: Agent|Austin on June 12, 2008, 23:31:30
My Server PC has nothing good except RAM and its processor. All the other stuff in it is junk. But that is what a server is meant to be. Not a gaming computer.  ::)
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: jerome534 on June 13, 2008, 01:05:50
to Terryrussell: the 8600 that your talking about, is it the XFX GeForce 8600 GT ? it is low priced!
BTW my computor is about 4-6 years old, Sony Vaio XP do these types usually have PCI, PCI express, or AGP?
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: jerome534 on June 13, 2008, 02:23:27
can you please tell me some good PCI graphic cards for ship sim 08?my computor series is PCV-RS630G
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: Simaddict on June 13, 2008, 03:50:12
I have 4gb DDR Ram.2.8gb Dual Core AMD Athlon Processor and the Radion 9200/512mb graphics Card.
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: TerryRussell on June 13, 2008, 07:27:26
to Terryrussell: the 8600 that your talking about, is it the XFX GeForce 8600 GT ? it is low priced!
BTW my computor is about 4-6 years old, Sony Vaio XP do these types usually have PCI, PCI express, or AGP?

Hi Jerome534.

One is an actual Nvidia GeForce 8600GT. The other is an on-bard chipset. The Motherbaord is Asus, I think.

Your computer probably isn't PCI express. You might have a problem actually finding a new card for your PC in that case.

I think I found your PC on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-PCV-RS630G-Desktop-Pentium-Hyper-Threading/dp/B00029YNOS

If that is it, then the design is 4 years old and almost certainbly won't be PCI express. According to the specs, it has "three PCI expansion slots (two available), one 8x AGP (accelerated graphics port, available)  ".

It is more likely that you will find an AGP card than a PCI card, but I don'tthink that any of the 8xxx series are available in AGP (unless someone knows better). Sorry.  :'(

The best I could see was 7800 series. I don't have any experience of that one.
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: jerome534 on June 13, 2008, 12:46:55
i did find the ATI RADEON 9600 PRO - AGP 8x  would that work with my computor?
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: TerryRussell on June 13, 2008, 15:16:54
i did find the ATI RADEON 9600 PRO - AGP 8x  would that work with my computor?

It looks as though it should, but you'd need to confirm that with the supplier of the card.

Tell them the model number of your PC and ask them to confirm that it will work. If there is any problem, the responsibility will be theirs.

If you just ask for that card, and it then doesn't work, it will be down to you!.
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: Ship Sim on June 13, 2008, 17:01:53
What ever he dose he should never get a 8600 I got one and took it back and got a 8800gtx because it was almost as bad as the 165mb graphic card I had in my old computer. ;)
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: TerryRussell on June 13, 2008, 17:12:18
What ever he dose he should never get a 8600 I got one and took it back and got a 8800gtx because it was almost as bad as the 165mb graphic card I had in my old computer. ;)

I hate to disgree, but I have two PCs with three 8600 cards between them and one with 8800 GTX.

The 8800 GTX is "top of the range", but for Ship Simulator, it isn't possible to see any difference. Numerous independent reviews agree with me. PC World, PC Buyer and others have all said that the 8800 GTX is the King and that the 8600 series are very close behind.

As 8600 is one half or one-third the price of the 8800 GTX, it seems a pretty good card to me.

You may have had a different experience, but who knows what the reason was? I doubt it was the card, unless you had a faulty one. Could be as simple as your BIOS not set up correctly.
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: Ship Sim on June 13, 2008, 17:44:06
I dont know what was rong with mine but it didnt run my games as good as it should have.
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: Simaddict on June 13, 2008, 18:44:40
Graphics  cards these day are becoming much bigger with experimental cooling systems, my Radeon 9200 PCIE takes up its own slot and 1 PCI slot due to the cooling system attached  which is not to dissimilar to a fridge cooling system, But it runs all my games in Full and that is what i was looking for, but of course with the vast array available it is personal choice as to the desired card required.
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: Person264 on June 13, 2008, 22:05:40
Quite a lot of games are just as dependent on the CPU you have as the GPU (graphics), so you could probably get the best graphics card available but if you have only an average CPU then you wont be able to tell much difference between any of the best cards.
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: austin14 on June 25, 2008, 22:10:13
what about a geforce 9600 gt im getting one soon would you guys recemend that to him
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: Master Captain on June 26, 2008, 00:42:27
9600 ;D Top notch graphics card there my friend, also very expensive i believe, but i'm sure its probally well worth the price. But watch when buying new graphics cards as you may have to upgrade your pc's power supply. thats the case with my server/secondary pc. I have a NVIDIA GeForce 6200SE it does great for a low end model, but it needs an a new one. Hope that helps
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: soap boy on July 02, 2008, 19:32:20
does this game work with nivdia GEFORCE go 8600m?GT
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: Person264 on July 02, 2008, 19:40:22
I don't see why not
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: soap boy on July 02, 2008, 19:46:52
thanks!
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: saltydog on July 02, 2008, 20:05:27
It works very well with that card soapboy, I have it myself.. ;)

edit: sorry, I thought you meant the 8800GT, but I think the 8600GT would work fine as well.. ;)
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: soap boy on July 02, 2008, 20:42:15
thanks salt ;D
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: TerryRussell on July 02, 2008, 20:48:26
does this game work with nivdia GEFORCE go 8600m?GT

I have 8600 cards in my gaming PC. They are excellent cards. The only one that beats them is the 8800 GTX (which I have on this PC) but it is impossible to see any difference with most games and simulators.
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: soap boy on July 02, 2008, 22:37:00
thanks! :P
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: TerryRussell on July 02, 2008, 22:48:42
thanks! :P

Why does Salty get a smile and I get the tongue stuck out?  ???
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: soap boy on July 03, 2008, 00:54:02
idk i just think the tong smiley is kool but if you want a plain smilley ok  ;D
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: TerryRussell on July 03, 2008, 16:42:49
It's "blowing a raspberry" or in some parts of the USA, "a Bronx Cheer", and it isn't exactly a pat on the back.
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: soap boy on July 03, 2008, 16:52:44
i disagree i think it is on the side of the moth hanging not blowing in the middle and straight but still i  apologize  ;D
Title: Re: GEforce 5900
Post by: TerryRussell on July 03, 2008, 17:11:31
Don't worry. I was blowing them back at you, anyway.  ;D

In any case, blowing raspberries is always loudest and wettest from the side of the mouth. Trust me. I'm an expert.