Ship Simulator
English forum => Small talk => Topic started by: RMS Gigantic on April 14, 2008, 02:41:30
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vs titanic model: http://youtube.com/watch?v=nqCvtP4A3-I&feature=related (http://youtube.com/watch?v=nqCvtP4A3-I&feature=related)
My first reaction (to thumbnail alone!): "Oh, my, what is that horrible piece of c***?"
errors include (from first 20 seconds alone!)(to just put it at the level of ss08!):
Central propeller only has 3 blades, rather than 4
Center propeller is same size as wings, rather than smaller
Central propropeller turns in the same direction as port, rather than starboard propeller
Severely under detailed in terms of graphics
Boat deck details (railings, stairs, ect) are missing
Misplaced staircase to docking bridge
No protrusion for navigation instruments on docking bridge
I don't know what that ship was, but that wasn't the Titanic! Not at all!
the only thing this hunk o' junk has on ss is the presence of "Titanic Liverpool"on the stern.
I went with the first 20 seconds for errors because it gets hard to stomach it after 30 seconds, it's so bad!
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Ship sim 08 titanic are bether i think :)
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Ship sim 08 titanic are bether i think :)
&%^&$, yeah!
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I don't even play with titanic, but it does look bad...
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I tried out the VS demo (just to see what other simulators are like) and i thought, what a waste of 3 minutes of my life (waiting for it to download) it is absolutely useless! the ships don't respond no way near as good as they should, no detail, its like something from the 90's to put it against another simulator its like flight sim 98 but worse.
and the Titanic is another story, its a disaster on VS!
i'm also into Titanic and the errors i managed to pick out were huge!
i turned the video off when i was a few seconds into it as it was so bad.
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and its bow is litrally a triangle!
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look at the railings!!! they look like a fence hahahahaha!! its soo bad i makes me laugh.
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look at the railings!!! they look like a fence hahahahaha!! its soo bad i makes me laugh.
A nice white picket fence on the titanic, cool.
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m8 u look to hard
just play the game and hve fun, there is no need for it to be perfect, it is a simulater not a model
cheers q
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simulators are suppose to simulate, so I hope they resemble a real vessel. So actually I want to play and look.
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isnt the idea to sharpen ur boating skiils????
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isnt the idea to sharpen ur boating skiils????
A simulator is for graphics and handling, VS dosn't give either.
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wat is vs
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wat is vs
Virtual Sailor
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hahahahah
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hahahahah
Whats so funny.
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I tried out the VS demo (just to see what other simulators are like) and i thought, what a waste of 3 minutes of my life (waiting for it to download) it is absolutely useless! the ships don't respond no way near as good as they should, no detail, its like something from the 90's to put it against another simulator its like flight sim 98 but worse.
and the Titanic is another story, its a disaster on VS!
i'm also into Titanic and the errors i managed to pick out were huge!
i turned the video off when i was a few seconds into it as it was so bad.
I started to get sick after 30 seconds, so I turned it off, it was so disturbingly horrible! I agree with you on everything you said so far! Did they even do ANY research on the ship?!
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Well you know...
VS hasnt made this ship. this most be made by something other people.
but im agreed. its horrible ;D
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As far as I know someone will make a new Titanic model in "Ketshup and Sennepo" (it's not me if you believe that :D). And I guess it will be as much crappy (to use that word) as the previous models :P
It takes probably a hardly skilled 3ds Max user and a mountain of reference to make a accurate model and nobody will do that for Virtual Sailor since it's a culture where quantity of add-ons is preferred over the quality of the add-ons.
Now I bet someone will copy and past this topic and post a screenshot of it at the VS forum and blame me (like they usually do). I'm getting used to it ;)
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guys, guys, this guy spent time to make this model for your enjoyment, and all your doing is laughing at his work. How would you like it if you spent time on a model for a game, realeased it and then had a group of people laughing at your work....
Ok, so it might not be very good in your opinion, but if you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all.
Since this is the only model of the titanic made in Virtual Sailor, we who play it should be thankful we have one at all. There is always room for inmprovement, but you people don't seem to care that people work hard for your enjoyment.....it's the same with the SS2008 Titanic.....ages were spent researching and creating the Titanic for the game, and what happens next?? A list on the forum is pushed under VSTEPs noses telling them all they have done wrong, and demanding it gets fixed in the future......
You should be grateful that you have it at all......
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guys, guys, this guy spent time to make this model for your enjoyment, and all your doing is laughing at his work. How would you like it if you spent time on a model for a game, realeased it and then had a group of people laughing at your work....
I wouldn't even attempt a virtual model of the ship if I couldn't do it well!
And I AM greatful that VSTEP did all that research. I'm just taking a load off their back by doing a bit more, and telling where/how the model can be improved.
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Hello everyone. I have to say. Its not right for you to have a topic talking down about work that someone did. Let me tell it to you this way. How would you like it if I or anyone else on this ball of dirt we live on took something you worked on and said it was a pice of junk and complained about it. You wouldnt like it. You have to understand. Not everyone has a fancy program to make something like Vstep and I know virtual sailor isnt the greatest game but. You dont have to play Vs or drive the titanic that Is a free 3rd party addon If you just look around there are better addons for Vs.
Edited for language, DJM.
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and any way i have vs and is bad >:( you can't do half of the things you can do in ship simulator 2008 ;D
Edited for language, DJM.
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A heated debate!
I've been using VS for some years now, and for a while it was one of only a few sailing simulators. The Titanic model which you speak of has been around for several years, and has not been updated since. VS is developed by just one person whereas Ship Simulator is being run by many developers at VSTEP. I admit that Ship Simulator is more realistic, but bear in mind that VSTEP is a fairly large company with much money money to spend on it, than one person developing VS.
Please try to show some respect to the original developer of the Titanic model (even though he/she may not be reading this), and indeed to the VS community - VS has been around for a lot longer than SS, and has had comparatively little money spent on it. Both products are aimed to slightly different parts of the market and you have to accept that. Yes - SS is more realistic with improved graphics, but one cannot knock VS for having a simulator which has been successful, and around since 1999. For many years, VS was the only good enough simulator to recreate being out at sea in real life!
James
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As far as I know someone will make a new Titanic model in "Ketshup and Sennepo" (it's not me if you believe that :D). And I guess it will be as much crappy (to use that word) as the previous models :P
It takes probably a hardly skilled 3ds Max user and a mountain of reference to make a accurate model and nobody will do that for Virtual Sailor since it's a culture where quantity of add-ons is preferred over the quality of the add-ons.
Now I bet someone will copy and past this topic and post a screenshot of it at the VS forum and blame me (like they usually do). I'm getting used to it ;)
Can't really dont see what is so bad with Sketchup... Her is a Titanic model a guy doing in sketchup, it's not ready, no lifeboat u see, and he gona make more detail, also the intrior!
Titanic!
(http://i26.tinypic.com/2emk5js.jpg)
Steern!
(http://i26.tinypic.com/2llkrw9.jpg)
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A heated debate!
Please try to show some respect to the original developer of the Titanic model (even though he/she may not be reading this), and indeed to the VS community - VS has been around for a lot longer than SS, and has had comparatively little money spent on it. Both products are aimed to slightly different parts of the market and you have to accept that. Yes - SS is more realistic with improved graphics, but one cannot knock VS for having a simulator which has been successful, and around since 1999. For many years, VS was the only good enough simulator to recreate being out at sea in real life!
James
Exactly my thoughts.
Show a little respect to the creator of VS Titanic and SS2008 Titanic people >:(
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Can't really dont see what is so bad with Sketchup... Her is a Titanic model a guy doing in sketchup, it's not ready, no lifeboat u see, and he gona make more detail, also the intrior!
Titanic!
(http://i26.tinypic.com/2emk5js.jpg)
Steern!
(http://i26.tinypic.com/2llkrw9.jpg)
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Until he figures out that it will be heavy for Virtual Sailor (especially) and that the model contain several unnecessary faces/polygons (very known problem when exporting 3D models from Sketchup to Virtual Sailor). I doubt that he will get it into VS when I see those smooth corners ::)
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and any way i have vs and is bad >:( you can't do half of the things you can do in ship simulator 2008 ;D
Edited for language, DJM.
That's what YOU think yes ::), you can have Battleships and Submarines in VS and shoot at each other. I would turn it this way, you can't do HALF the things in in Ship Simulator 2008 that you can do in Virtual Sailor 7 :P!
You can't see underwater in SS which you can in VS.
I have both Ship Simulator 2008 and Virtual Sailor 7 ::).
But DON'T try to rank VS down >:( >:D, because it's a good Boat Simulator as well and the graphics of the water for example is better than you think!
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i don't mean i don't liket.because i wod lie.bisaids i am doing a boat for the game.
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That's what YOU think yes ::), you can have Battleships and Submarines in VS and shoot at each other. I would turn it this way, you can't do HALF the things in in Ship Simulator 2008 that you can do in Virtual Sailor 7 :P!
You can't see underwater in SS which you can in VS.
I have both Ship Simulator 2008 and Virtual Sailor 7 and I love both ;D!
But DON'T try to rank VS down >:( >:D, because it's a good Boat Simulator as well and the graphics of the water for example is better than you think!
What did ya mean with what you said in that post then?
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You can do tonnes more in VS!!!
Lower bridges that are blocking your ship
Change time in game
Change weather settings in game
Change and add boats in game
Tick one box and be able to capsize or sink your ship
Auto Pilot
In game naval warfare
Ability to create your own enviroments and ships
Go anywhere in the world
Go underwater
Use submersibles
I could go on and on and on, but i won't because know how fussy some people can be in this topic........
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You can do tonnes more in VS!!!
Lower bridges that are blocking your ship
Change time in game
Change weather settings in game
Change and add boats in game
Tick one box and be able to capsize or sink your ship
Auto Pilot
In game naval warfare
Ability to create your own enviroments and ships
Go anywhere in the world
Go underwater
Use submersibles
I could go on and on and on, but i won't because know how fussy some people can be in this topic........
I COMPLETELY 100% TOTALLY 10/10 AGREE WITH YOU!!!
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Search the forum and we will find topics where these games have been discussed several times.
This is a Ship Simulator game forum and I guess it's made for Ship Simulator. Quick comparisons is not a good idea, it's like making a Xbox vs PS thread and such discussions are just silly. Respect peoples taste and get over it. Finite! (wow how simple can it be huh.. ;))
While the tittle says VS: One of the worst virtual titanic models I've ever seen! I would simply talk to the modeler and suggest a improvement if he is interested. If not then it's as simple as stop using the add-on, get over it and move on. Beside most of the add-ons for VS is freeware and quick-rapid made ship models made within less than 3 months. Just a few add-ons have a longer development history. Asking for a Titanic model with same detail level as Titanic that is made for ShipSim is to ask a developer to addict himself to slavery behind a computer. If Titanic looks bad in VS it simply has a reason - the developer just made a simple Titanic without looking at it in a wider perspective. I don't blame him since it was his own choice.
Some don't want to put too much work and time in their add-on projects...and it's quite understandable when it comes to this ship.
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Search the forum and we will find topics where these games have been discussed several times.
This is a Ship Simulator game forum and I guess it's made for Ship Simulator. Quick comparisons is not a good idea, it's like making a Xbox vs PS thread and such discussions are just silly. Respect peoples taste and get over it. Finite! (wow how simple can it be huh.. ;))
While the tittle says VS: One of the worst virtual titanic models I've ever seen! I would simply talk to the modeler and suggest a improvement if he is interested. If not then it's as simple as stop using the add-on, get over it and move on. Beside most of the add-ons for VS is freeware and quick-rapid made ship models made within less than 3 months. Just a few add-ons have a longer development history. Asking for a Titanic model with same detail level as Titanic that is made for ShipSim is to ask a developer to addict himself to slavery behind a computer. If Titanic looks bad in VS it simply has a reason - the developer just made a simple Titanic without looking at it in a wider perspective. I don't blame him since it was his own choice.
Some don't want to put too much work and time in their add-on projects...and it's quite understandable when it comes to this ship.
The first advanced ship I will make for VS WILL be HEAVILY detailed, I will plan a WIP that will take 1-3 years to complete. But that's when I got more experience, then I will make a beautiful ship with high details, NO sharp corners, ONLY smooth nice curves :D.
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Can't really dont see what is so bad with Sketchup... Her is a Titanic model a guy doing in sketchup, it's not ready, no lifeboat u see, and he gona make more detail, also the intrior!
Titanic!
(http://i26.tinypic.com/2emk5js.jpg)
Steern!
(http://i26.tinypic.com/2llkrw9.jpg)
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Very nice! ;D
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Very nice! ;D
AGREE! Hopefully it'll be released for VS ;D!
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AGREE! Hopefully it'll be released for VS ;D!
Yeah, because it needs it... DESPERATELY!
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Yeah, because it needs it... DESPERATELY!
And repaint it to Olympic and Britannic as well :D!
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Can I suggest something RMS Gigantic :)
You can "Quote" multiple posts in your own post, like this:
Yeah, because it needs it... DESPERATELY!
AGREE! Hopefully it'll be released for VS ;D!
When replying, scroll down a little and you will see "Insert Quote" next to the posts, click that to insert another quote ;)
Makes it easier for you to post, and us to read :)
Regards.
DJM.
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And repaint it to Olympic and Britannic as well :D!
Exept there were many other differences, too...
And DJM....
I've tried that again and again, but it doesn't work!
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Can I suggest something RMS Gigantic :)
You can "Quote" multiple posts in your own post, like this:
When replying, scroll down a little and you will see "Insert Quote" next to the posts, click that to insert another quote ;)
Makes it easier for you to post, and us to read :)
Regards.
DJM.
Oh, thanks DJM :)! I'm not really a good writer am I :-[?
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Oh, thanks DJM :)! I'm not really a good writer am I :-[?
I don't want anyone to misunderstand my post there, I wasn't criticising anyone for their posting :)
It was just a little tip to make things easier ;)
Regards.
DJM.
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So i get told off for creating a 5 minut comparison? That's fair isn't it? Why don't YOU use the search the forum and fine many more comparisons, where the person who started them doesn't get a kicking for it ;)
DJM, i think we'd all be better if someone locked this topic ;)
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Like me? If you really want me to, I'll do it. the link's right at the bottom of my screen.
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Hiya Nathan :)
DJM, i think we'd all be better if someone locked this topic ;)
All the Moderators watch topics closely, and if there is any reason to take further action, we will :)
Regards.
DJM.
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I don't want anyone to misunderstand my post there, I wasn't criticising anyone for their posting :)
It was just a little tip to make things easier ;)
Regards.
DJM.
NO NO NO :o :'(, don't get me wrong! I didn't think you criticised me :o! I took that positively :).
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That's good to know, thanks ;D
I'm breathing a sigh of relief right now :D
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its not that bad and who created it cause its good ilike it alot im very careing and nice and realy like to be mean but if there was a forum member who created this , it would be unexceptible ;D (i can speel alot better it just im rushing so sorry for mistakes) 8) to say its very bad right DJM
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(i can speel alot better it just im rushing so sorry for mistakes) 8)
I think you need to come up for air occasionally, it's a good job you're not a submarine :D
I am joking of course ;)
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haha ill type slower
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Actually the Improved Titanic for VS looks really nice :), it dazzled me the first time I saw it :o! Alot better than the first Titanic model for VS, ALOT of improvements
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yha i just saw that one its great
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yha i just saw that one its great
Noticed the cabin with the bed chair and window :)?
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yha that was cool
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yha that was cool
I drowned in that cabin once when she was overloaded with ballast :o.
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wow
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wow
Yes that was scary :o, I managed to get out in the end though, luckily :o. Explosions came out of the funnels :o, probably from the boilers :-\?
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The New model of the titanic looks good. ;)
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The New model of the titanic looks good. ;)
Indeed it does :).