Ship Simulator
English forum => Small talk => Topic started by: saken41 on February 20, 2008, 20:52:10
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Know I did this on the old Ship Simulator forum 2 years ago, but I just wanna do it again ;D! Latest Virtual Sailor release is Virtual Sailor 7. I have downloaded the Demo Version of Virtual Sailor 7 and it seems good, but I've always thought Ship Simulator 2008 is way better than Virtual Sailor 7. But let's start the 2nd Ship Simulator vs. Virtual Sailor War!!
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I vote SS08.
I bought VS7 (I know!! I know!!)
I'm not impressed with it. Not for that price.
Most addons are ugly, half finished and lack a proper helm view (I dont like looking at C64 like graphics). The waves are nice but ships react weird to the higher ones. The graphics are poor, the dynamics often weird and totally off. The underwater aspect is nice, for 30 minutes. Sailing vessels are nice too, but it's done much better in other sims.
I wont be playing it much, I think. :)
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I vote SS08.
I bought VS7 (I know!! I know!!)
I'm not impressed with it. Not for that price.
Most addons are ugly, half finished and lack a proper helm view (I dont like looking at C64 like graphics). The waves are nice but ships react weird to the higher ones. The graphics are poor, the dynamics often weird and totally off. The underwater aspect is nice, for 30 minutes. Sailing vessels are nice too, but it's done much better in other sims.
I wont be playing it much, I think. :)
Completely agree :)! Ship Simulator 2008 + Ship Simulator 2008 Add-On is AWESOME!!! Now my #2 favorite is Ocean Star and #3 favorite Pride Of Rotterdam, Titanic still my #1 fav of course ;), ALWAYS.
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you're lucky RMS. i get made fun of for Titanic being my fav ship. also, i'm called Mexican for having a mustache :'(
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you're lucky RMS. i get made fun of for Titanic being my fav ship. also, i'm called Mexican for having a mustache :'(
Hey, that's not fair >:(! I see you're from the states just like me :).
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i vote for the SS
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Hey, that's not fair >:(! I see you're from the states just like me :).
yeah. i hate it! they won't stop. i want to kill them. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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BMW is much better than Volvo. Why? I don't know...
Xbox suchs because Playstation IS better... you see.. I'm just joking. I don't even have a Xbox 360 yet. :D
I vote for them both because I know that each game have their own bugs, missing parts and I cud continue forever. But I have one nail on the Ship Simulator simply because it smells more quality of this simulator than Virtual Sailor. VS is driven by add-on developers and it's not the developer himself that makes the exiting content. In opposite VSTEP makes all the content for Ship Simulator and sometimes add ship models made by others into the game. This is the quality control that makes this sim look good and far better than Virtual Sailor when it comes to graphics. When it comes to simulation I see these games as 50/50. They all have their ups and downs when it comes to physics.
So after this mini review I give Ship Simulator 5 points more for keeping a higher graphics and quality control so I don't have to see poor Ketshup models being developed for this game. There are dozens of poor ship models made for Virtual Sailor that would not care to download because it's made by a "wannabe" that have a very simply view of 3D modelling and texturing without thinking a second on making the ship model a "little" bit more realistic.
And if I did say this on the official game forum for Virtual Sailor I know what would happen. I would be banned, because it's impossible to review someones add-on at the forum or to post constructive criticism. That's the reason why we Norwegians that use VS stick to our own forum. The official forum for VS is described in one single word: minefield with ticking bombs. Stay away! :P
Expressing your personal opinion on that forum is not always a good idea...You have my signature on that one :D
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Greetings,
I voted Shipsim,offcource!!
I've seen this game growning from the first beginning.
Do i check others,yes,offcource! Just to see how and what they look like,graphics scenery..a.s.o...
By looking to the others,you can look for some more idea's to,than is the challenge to make them better.
Regards
Marc
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I've seen this game growning from the first beginning.
Me too :), we're 2 two early members you and I ;).
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Yes,when i registered myself 7 april 2006,i was member 41.
I've seen you just came 1 month later.We realy have seen this game growning,and it still growns.
marc
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Yes,when i registered myself 7 april 2006,i was member 41.
I've seen you just came 1 month later.We realy have seen this game growning,and it still growns.
marc
Oh,take a look at my account :o, dust everywhere :-[ *blows away the dust from account*, looks much better :). Think it's time to take the vacuum cleaner :D!
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I voted for SS too (as i think has everyone else! :o ) I have been a member since July 06 and seen this Simulator grow. Have looked at VS, and while some of the graphics are better and you can visit more places as well as a greater range of ships...its just not realistic! Would much prefer to have smaller range of vessels and areas to sail in, but with much more realism in the way the vessels handle and react to the waves!
:D
Happy sailing All
David
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I voted for SS too (as i think has everyone else! :o ) I have been a member since July 06 and seen this Simulator grow. Have looked at VS, and while some of the graphics are better and you can visit more places as well as a greater range of ships...its just not realistic! Would much prefer to have smaller range of vessels and areas to sail in, but with much more realism in the way the vessels handle and react to the waves!
:D
Happy sailing All
David
Yes, we have seen Ship Simulator evolve since 2006 and it has evolved alot since then :), Ship Simulator 2008 Add-On: New Horizons will hopefully come March 22 :D.
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2nd Ship Simulator vs. Virtual Sailor war ends soon.
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Invite the QS Forum people and we have a war within seconds where the mods get a turbo working sunday on the job :D :D :D
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So who was the one person who voted for VS7 (=> Anti Ship Simulator)? Must have been an accidental key press.
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I think both SS and VS are good, but I voted for SS :).
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Added option, Ports of Call ;). Has anyone seen it or played it? Tell me how it is :)!
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Im very impressed with ship sim. but since Im from the states I would like to see more american ships and boats like maybe McAllister towing or military sealift command ships, that would be nice.. do sim with my ships before I go on watch lol.
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Im very impressed with ship sim. but since Im from the states I would like to see more american ships and boats like maybe McAllister towing or military sealift command ships, that would be nice.. do sim with my ships before I go on watch lol.
Tanks fore a good multiply game to night
But you meant then vermasse was fun and sail with then, try the fermaunt Sherpa that also a good boat to sail with but if we shod hawed boats from every nations then will the be alto of boats may me we had need a super super PC to cud play the game :) ;D
best regards from
TJK
osean star on multiplay
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Hey guys,
I played Ports Of Call a while ago, its a fun game, and they were starting to get very nice views (ports, shores, harbours) yet, the game is based on the cargo's, you have to get them from one port to another without exeeding the date's, you also have to load (virtualy) different cargo's to fill up your vessel based on getting the maximum dollar, one cargo sometimes has to be delivered in two or more different ports, and different dates, it has potential in the future i think.
Even the stockmarket is included, you can also change the time of day in each game at any time, nighttime in POC is very realistic (buoys, harbourlights, lighthouses, entrance of certain ports)
Maybe they improved it since the last time i played it (2 years)
There is one thing i always found very practical in POC, as soon you were in the vincinity of your destination you could change one of the views to the one supposed to be the destination, so in other words you had a view from the quay, that i found spectacular (to see you come in to your berth being a linesman)
http://www.portsofcall.de/ (http://www.portsofcall.de/)
So, thats about it... if any questions... shoot...
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lol I get what you say but we could add lets say 4 more american ships. 8) a nice MSC ship maybe a multy role ship and a nice tugboat McAllister or Penn Maritime... but its a very good game by far the best...
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Added option again ;D, Virtual Skipper.
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The vessel sim most ships must be Virtual Sailor ;D!
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nice sailing with you too TJK it was definately a good sim.
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I vote Virtual Sailor and Ship Simulator as the two best ship sims of all time ;D!!
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Having played all of the games above I'd say it's difficult or unfair to choose as they all do different things
well
- for sailing vessels, huge landscapes and a variety second to none "Virtual Sailor"
- for great physics , manoeuvering and real world feel "SS2008"
- for the cut and thrust of business and a nice sim falling half way between SS2008&VS "Ports Of Call"
- for the excitement of racing and high performance handling "Virtual skipper"
- for the thrill of combat and real "being there" tension and atmosphere "Silent Hunter" 3 & 4
- for the admiral level tactical decisions & large fleet actions Distant Guns and the forthcoming Jutland
It's not really fair or productive to pitch one against the other as we are in such a small niche market, we should try and support as many of these great maritime sims as our wallets (and wives) will allow.
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Somebody who chooses for virtual sailor obviously doesn't mind about realism.
I choose for SS2008 and POCsim3D (ports of call) beceaus I love the ship dynamics.
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Ports of Call was/is an excellent game for Commodore Amiga and PC. Strange thing about that game was that if you did not paid extra money for piloting the ship to the harbour, you had to make it yourself.
I never paid any money for that, for obvious reasons :)
Nice simulation about controlling an containership-company, with all the ships etc. There was even some surprises when one the your ships getting to the iceberg-valley, and so on.
So my points for Ports of Call, nothing surpasses that, even with this modern technology :)
Oops, apparently there is 'new' Ports of Call. I gave my vote the original one, I suppose the new one will be not so great, sequels never are quite the same. So my vote to SS.
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There are many new "Ports of Call"
A new version of the classic game developed by the same team (Rolf Deiter Klein/ Martin Ulrich)who put togerher the 80's original will be available next month that version has I think 19 ships and 90 ports!... find out more here (http://www.portsofcall-game.de/)
There is also POC XXL which is a 2D/3D hybrid and also a version of the classic game retooled to run on XP find out more here (http://www.portsofcall.de/)
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I am talking about the 3Dsim "POCsim3D" ;D
Not Ports of Call XXL or Porst of call.
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When it comes to amount of ships, Virtual Sailor is the best :D!!
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Gonna reset this poll :P.
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When it comes to amount of ships, Virtual Sailor is the best :D!!
And when it comes to overall quaility of the collection? ;D
Fred
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And when it comes to overall quaility of the collection? ;D
Fred
Ship Simulator and Virtual Sailor ;D.
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;D
Were you hit in the head with a blunt heavy object recently?
Cause I think you've lost it! :P ;D
(j/k of course)
Regards
Fred
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I voted Ship Sim and Silent Hunter.( I like fireing torpedos,SH4 also has extremely beautiful graphics.)
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If I chose for quality, it wil be Shipsim2008 and SHIII.
@Mad_Fred
a blunt heavy object??
I think he got hit in the head by a train ;D ;D
(Allso a joke offcourse)
I am a little bit a virtual sailor "hater" beceaus the ships manouver like cars.
A BOAT ISN'T THE SAME AS A CAR!!! ;) ;D
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;D
Yep indeed some ships for VS have awfull dynamics, but if the creator of a vessel doesn't make them any better, then it's not the game's fault really.
I prefer SS, but I also bought VS (just to see what all the fuss was about), and there are some really nice ships out there with really good handling characteristics. Not many.. but enough to have a very diverse "fleet" to play around with. Most are dreadful though. And it shows that the ability of having 3rd party addons also attracts a lot of substandard work. No disrespect to any modeler, because everyone has to start somewhere, but a developer should at least set a basic standard. If a boat handles like a car, it has no place in a nautical simulator, as far as I am concerned. (unless it's an amphicar of course, but even that handles like a boat, in the water) :)
But some authors just made a (often poor) model and - as far as I noticed - just used some default dynamics or something. I've tried out just about every addon ship I could find, and when you see huge cargo ships shoot off like a speedboat when you open up the throttle and turn on a dime, then it's just sad... ;D
But there are really well made ships too, with really nice dynamics. So it's not all bad. :)
Oops, what did I say?! ..I mean.. it's terrible, awfull, don't play it, play SS instead!!! :P
Regards,
Fred
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Fred, tut tut.
Any more of that and I'll have to report you to a moderator. (FOTFGFAWATL)
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;D
Whoops...
I'd guess what that abbreviation means but my interpretation would require red asterisks, so I guess I am way off. :)
Fred
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wow mad fred you're the forum god, how do you reply to all these posts so fast hehe
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i dont like the look of ports of call, looks too old for me. i like the idea of having an included design program on virtual sailor, but the graphics look best on ship sim 08 so my vote goes to ship sim 08. virtual skipper has beautiful looking graphics but im not a very big fan of sailing with sail boats
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wow mad fred you're the forum god, how do you reply to all these posts so fast hehe
Nah, I am a mere mortal, just like everyone else.. But I cloned myself and there's 4 of me roaming the forums.. ;D
Regards,
Fred
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;D
Whoops...
I'd guess what that abbreviation means but my interpretation would require red asterisks, so I guess I am way off. :)
Fred
FOTFGFAWATL)
Fell on the floor gasping for air with all the laughing
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;D
Heh, heh.. That's much more suited to write out in full indeed... ::)
Fred
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Glad I could make you smile, my friend! ;D
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Ship Sim Pwns with the Titanic!
BTW:
R.M.S. Titanic
RMS Gigantic
is anyone on here RMS Olympic? That's the only sister ship left!
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There was no RMS Gigantic. The hull was redesigned and became HMHS Britannic. Because what was originally to be Gigantic was never so registered, there was never an RMS Gigantic.
Marty
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mvsmith is correct.
The first idea was to name one of the vessels RMS Gigantic.
However on the end it has never had that name.
Marc
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Hallo,
Is somebody here who has pictures of the QM 2 from Ports of Call?
ANdy
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BMW is much better than Volvo. Why? I don't know...
Xbox suchs because Playstation IS better... you see.. I'm just joking. I don't even have a Xbox 360 yet. :D
I vote for them both because I know that each game have their own bugs, missing parts and I cud continue forever. But I have one nail on the Ship Simulator simply because it smells more quality of this simulator than Virtual Sailor. VS is driven by add-on developers and it's not the developer himself that makes the exiting content. In opposite VSTEP makes all the content for Ship Simulator and sometimes add ship models made by others into the game. This is the quality control that makes this sim look good and far better than Virtual Sailor when it comes to graphics. When it comes to simulation I see these games as 50/50. They all have their ups and downs when it comes to physics.
So after this mini review I give Ship Simulator 5 points more for keeping a higher graphics and quality control so I don't have to see poor Ketshup models being developed for this game. There are dozens of poor ship models made for Virtual Sailor that would not care to download because it's made by a "wannabe" that have a very simply view of 3D modelling and texturing without thinking a second on making the ship model a "little" bit more realistic.
And if I did say this on the official game forum for Virtual Sailor I know what would happen. I would be banned, because it's impossible to review someones add-on at the forum or to post constructive criticism. That's the reason why we Norwegians that use VS stick to our own forum. The official forum for VS is described in one single word: minefield with ticking bombs. Stay away! :P
Expressing your personal opinion on that forum is not always a good idea...You have my signature on that one :D
You just don't like volvo because it's SWEDISH ;D ;D naahh just kidding with you , we always makes jokes about norweigans , guess you do the same about us ;) hehe
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There was no RMS Gigantic. The hull was redesigned and became HMHS Britannic. Because what was originally to be Gigantic was never so registered, there was never an RMS Gigantic.
Marty
The ship was to be RMS Gigantic, but the Titanic disaster caused White Star to decide to change the name to RMS Britannic, but prior to completion, World War I broke out, so it was turned into a hospital ship, so it was changed to HMHS Britannic.
My screenname is what it was first intended to be.
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White Star Lines always denied that they ever intended to name her Gigantic. The one piece of evidence that might contradict that is a White Star publicity brochure, produced when the ships were first conceived, showing artist’s conceptions of the ships. In that brochure the third ship was labeled “Giganticâ€. Officially, Gigantic never existed.
Furthermore, the ship was not christened, launched, or registered under that name. Therefore, there could never have been an “RMS Giganticâ€.
Marty
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White Star Lines always denied that they ever intended to name her Gigantic. The one piece of evidence that might contradict that is a White Star publicity brochure, produced when the ships were first conceived, showing artist’s conceptions of the ships. In that brochure the third ship was labeled “Giganticâ€. Officially, Gigantic never existed.
Furthermore, the ship was not christened, launched, or registered under that name. Therefore, there could never have been an “RMS Giganticâ€.
Marty
I never said it did. It was planned, but never launched.
BTW, christening is not a factor as to whether a ship existed. the RMS Titanic, Olympic, and HMHS Britannic were never christened, for it was White Star's practice never to christen its ships, so according to not having a ship christened meaning it never existed, none of those ships existed.
And yet there are several pieces of ship 2.5 miles below the Atlantic and in the Titanic Meuseum in Branson, Missouri bearing the yard number 401, pieces of ship under the Athean Sea with the yard number 402, and parts of ship in the White Swan Hotel and in the Titanic Meuseum that belonged to a ship with the yard number 400.
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RMS Gigantic never existed because no ship of that name was ever registered with the Royal Mail Ship designation. Gigantic was just a name hung on a picture of a ship in a brochure.
Marty
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RMS Gigantic never existed because no ship of that name was ever registered with the Royal Mail Ship designation. Gigantic was just a name hung on a picture of a ship in a brochure.
Marty
Yeah, and it's that ship in a brochure that I got my screenname from
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Once again I reseted the votes and added 2 new options, Flight Simulator and Train Simulator (both Flight Simulator and Train Simulator made by Microsoft).
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i'm sorry ship sim fans, but i had to vote for msts. i was into trains before ships. trains are a nice way to travel. especially AmTrak. nice burgers in the snack car. and i drove an ACC40W. abnormal because i'm 12. didn't stop me though. did it? so yeah. i vote msts. can you add trainz and let us vote for 3?
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i'm sorry ship sim fans, but i had to vote for msts. i was into trains before ships. trains are a nice way to travel. especially AmTrak. nice burgers in the snack car. and i drove an ACC40W. abnormal because i'm 12. didn't stop me though. did it? so yeah. i vote msts. can you add trainz and let us vote for 3?
Givmme some names on more random simulators, I'll put up Trainz ;D,
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Givmme some names on more random simulators, I'll put up Trainz ;D,
for trainz. TRS 2006. all i can think of.
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F19, the best DOS Stealth Fighter Simulator ever made.
FA18 the second best DOS flight simulator
Air Combat WWII
Were they random enaough?
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F19, the best DOS Stealth Fighter Simulator ever made.
FA18 the second best DOS flight simulator
Air Combat WWII
Were they random enaough?
no :D
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I do have a slug simulator program. How about that?
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I do have a slug simulator program. How about that?
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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Hallo,
Is somebody here who has pictures of the QM 2 from Ports of Call?
ANdy
HI Andy here (http://www.portsofcall-game.de/gamescreen.php?index=screens/screen_13.jpg) is a pic of QM3 in Sydney from the new POC deluxe 2008.
You can see more over at the game's site. (http://www.portsofcall-game.de/) I think the game is only in German at the moment but an English version is almost complete and the developer is seeking a publisher (I hope Lighthouse!)
A a video of QM2 in the icebergs (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/183182.html) here note this appears to be in arcade mode judging by the acceleration of the ship, there is also a sim mode. The night mode looks very cool. I think there is also a 3d red/green mode as the box mentions 3d glasses being supplied.
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special thanks ;)
MFG Andy
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:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
The program simulates thepopulation of various types of slug with certain variables, such numbers of specific predators, weather conditions and so on. Don't worry. I don't think there's going to be a Vstep Slug Simulator program.
By the way, was THAT random enough for you? Heh heh. ;D
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BVE 4 :)
I dont see it on the list though so cant vote.
Its a rail cab sim, very realistic indeed, with fully simulated cab sway and safety systems etc ;D
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Just bought Sonalysts Combat Simulations: Dangerous Waters yesterday so I added it here ;D.
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Where's Falcon 4? And Lock On? And IL2? And OFP or ArmA?
You're leaving the best ones out!! ;D
Regards,
Fred
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Gosh.. what a poll... Hard do decide actually ???
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New rule: NO COMBAT SIMULATORS
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Well then you have to remove Virtual Sailor, cause it has warships and weapons that you can operate.. ::)
;D
Fred
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Well then you have to remove Virtual Sailor, cause it has warships and weapons that you can operate.. ::)
;D
Fred
Oh boy :'(... tell me what simulators and I'll and them, just if I don't need to remove Virtual Sailor, plz :-[? Tell me and I'll add it :).
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Well then you have to remove Virtual Sailor, cause it has warships and weapons that you can operate..
...which represents 1% of the total game play ;) :P
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warfare is warfare! :)
Anyway, it doesn't matter, I was just goofing around.. VS can stay in.. it'll never win anyway. Not on this forum. To have polls like this is not really objective on a specific forum anyway.. hehe.. ;D
Fred
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I got a new bright idea, Battlefield 1942 so I added it ;D.
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warfare is warfare! :)
Anyway, it doesn't matter, I was just goofing around.. VS can stay in.. it'll never win anyway. Not on this forum. To have polls like this is not really objective on a specific forum anyway.. hehe.. ;D
Fred
My vote is for that slug simulator. ;D
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I got a new bright idea, Battlefield 1942 so I added it ;D.
That's not a sim... That's a very arcade shoot 'em up... :P
If you want a shooter that is a sim, better add "Armed Assault" or its predecessor "Operation Flashpoint".
Now those are tactical warfare simulation games. BF's CDRom-case isn't even worthy of standing next to the ones for these games! (although I do have all the BF's, but they are on the arcade shelf hehehe)
;D ;D
Regards,
Fred
* Edit * Typo
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we all know ship simulator is the best haha ;D
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we all know ship simulator is the best haha ;D
No :P, Ship Simulator AND Virtual Sailor is the best ;D!!
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Hehe..
but you only allowed each member ONE vote in this poll.. ;)
So which is it? And think carefully.... You may want to look at the banner above the forum too.. ::)
;D ;)
Regards,
Fred
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I have voted ship simulator ;D
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Hello again,
Well even though SS is a gr8 game i still voted for FS. You have to admit, it has better graphics and i ddon't want to name everything. Still, nothin' against SS!
Nathanael