Ship Simulator
English forum => Ship Simulator 2008 => General discussions => Topic started by: tinie on February 13, 2008, 16:52:56
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Hi
i have seen that there are new ships comming out soon for SS08 are they going to be for download use or will you have to pay for them in a add-on pack?
Tinie
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The New Horizons one? I think you will have to pay. But could a moderator dev or beta tester clarify this? :)
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thats pretty cool though cofusing.
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From what I can see from the pics, the water looks better ;D
I excpect it will be worth every penny! :D
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What pictures? And will it be a download or a boxed product? If it's boxed, i'm getting it, no doubt...
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There will be two ways to get the new ships :
1. If you already own a valid license for Ship Sim 2006 addon pack, you can (it's already possible) download the ships of this addon, converted for Ship Sim 2008.
2. A new add on will be released, called "New Horizon". This one will contain : the ship's of the above addon, plus other new ships (a powerful harbourg tug with VSP propulsion, and a barge pusher, whose engine room will be modelled too), and plus a new navigation zone (Cornwall in great britain).
You can see screenshots of all this here :
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,4991.0.html (http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,4991.0.html)
Regards,
Denis
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so it is going to be available for download?
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so it is going to be available for download?
I don't have this information, but it will very probably be available in both versions (box and download), like was ship sim 2006 addon ...
Regards,
Denis
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will you have to pay for the download or will it be free i shudda said that before
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There will be two ways to get the new ships :
2. A new add on will be released, called "New Horizon". This one will contain : the ship's of the above addon, plus other new ships (a powerful harbourg tug with VSP propulsion, and a barge pusher, whose engine room will be modelled too), and plus a new navigation zone (Cornwall in great britain).
Regards,
Denis
Excuse me Denis, but it will not be a VSP-driven tug, but an azimuth tractor tug (ATT), originally powered by two Aquamaster Azimuth Thrusters. And we get those thrusters in a free turning mode (360 degree) like the original "Bugsier 2"...
Cheers
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will you have to pay for the download or will it be free i shudda said that before
If you already have a valid license for the SS2006 addon, the ships of it are available without having to pay anything. (IE if you already PAYED for the SS2006 addon, you can beneficy of it's ships without having to pay again for it.)
The New Horizon Add On will be a full add on, and this one won't be free.
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Excuse me Denis, but it will not be a VSP-driven tug, but an azimuth tractor tug (ATT), originally powered by two Aquamaster Azimuth Thrusters. And we get those thrusters in a free turning mode (360 degree) like the original "Bugsier 2"...
Cheers
Hi bottman,
you're right, I was talking about VSP to explain it was free turning mode thrusters ... But it's aquamaster :)
sorry for that !
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No problem! Hopefully all azimuth driven vessels (BUGSIER 2, RED EAGLE, OCEAN STAR) will have free turnable propulsion units soon. Until now we can turn them by 180 degree into each direction, but not further. That will change... ::)
Cheers
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I so muche agree with you Bottman ....
For now I simply don't use azimuth driven vessels for this reason :(
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i wish they would make it free to download because it would be more funner for the younger people who dont have jobs XD ;D
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i wish they would make it free to download because it would be more funner for the younger people who dont have jobs XD ;D
I don't think it will be the case, tinie ...
A firm needs to sell its products to stay alive :-)
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lol, yeah i suppose but they produced other boats and put them in a download patch but that was only two boats soo.. i suppose thats why they gonna sell it
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I'm old enough, and i still bought SS2008 with my own money. I'm also going to buy New Horizons.
*any mods who want to remove my age, sorry if i wasn't meant to post it
Edit: OK? Luc
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No problem! Hopefully all azimuth driven vessels (BUGSIER 2, RED EAGLE, OCEAN STAR) will have free turnable propulsion units soon. Until now we can turn them by 180 degree into each direction, but not further. That will change... ::)
Cheers
Michael,
Red Eagle has VSPs, which are, technically, not azimuthing propellers. Their thrust can be directed through the full 360 degrees.
Regards,
Marty
I’m sorry, I didn’t understand that you meant steering using the keyboard—which is not really a sensible way to steer a large vessel, especially one with azimuth drives or VSP. One of the reasons so many have trouble with the Red Eagle is that they have the idea that keys are easier to use than the wheels. The opposite is true.
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i like the pushboat,still missing inland cargo vessels
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Michael,
Red Eagle has VSPs, which are, technically, not azimuthing propellers. Their thrust can be directed through the full 360 degrees.
Regards,
Marty
I’m sorry, I didn’t understand that you meant steering using the keyboard—which is not really a sensible way to steer a large vessel, especially one with azimuth drives or VSP. One of the reasons so many have trouble with the Red Eagle is that they have the idea that keys are easier to use than the wheels. The opposite is true.
Isn't that the definition of azimuth steeing - the 360 degree turnable propulsion ;) ? And hey, it's quite easy to steer all three vessels by means of the keyboard with a little experience. I do so and all manoeuvres, incl. the so called "Tug-Ballet", are possible with the keys! Can't wait to show you some videos about that! ;D
Best regards
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Michael,
The distinction is that azimuth drives involve rotating a propeller to face in the desired direction, but the VSP does not. The cyclic pitch of a VSP’s blades is changed, in much the same way a helicopter’s blades are.
Regards,
Marty
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it sucks cause i bought the game with my own money but now we half toget a new computer because we need 2 computers.
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And this is relevant to this thread or even this game, because??
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HI EVERYONE
Does anyone know if there is going to be a cruise ship on ss08 add-on: New Horizons like there is on ss06 add-on?
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Yes, all of the ships from the SS2006 add on will be in this new add-on, so you can expect the Ocean Star to be making an appearence.
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HI EVERYONE
Does anyone know if there is going to be a cruise ship on ss08 add-on: New Horizons like there is on ss06 add-on?
The Ocean Star will be included with the addon.
You can even already download it, if you have registered your licence of the 2006 addon on your profile on this forum.
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But this is my first ship simulator so do i have to buy it then?
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1. Buy SS2008
2. Buy SS2006 Add-On
3. Go to your profile and enter the liscence key for the SS2006 Add-on
4. After that, it will ask you if you want a free SS2008 liscence key. Click yes.
5. Enter that key. You will now have SS2006 add-on ships in 2008.
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when you got the 2008 add-on already ther wil be a update coming whit the push ship and the other things thats what i know
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OK can someome plz clarify this people are saying about registering your shipsim 2006 and then u can get the download but all I have is ship sim 2008 but can I still get the download if I don't have ship sim 2006 and if so do I have to buy it or will it be free
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IF you have SS06, register the key and the 08 one in your profile. Orange box appeares for free download.
Don't have SS06? Have to wait and pay for it when it comes for SS08. ;)
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I will have to pay, damn >:(
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so yo can buy SS06 add-on and can have the ships now or you can w8 for the SS08 add-on to come out but you have to wait but do you get any better things with the SS08 version e.g. like bug fixes if there is any and better graphics?
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Tinie
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Yes, plus an extra enviroment i think.
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If you buy SS2006 addon, you'll only get the ships of this addon for SS2008. If you wait for the New Horizon addon (which I recommend), you'll get the same ships, plus two new ships (a modern powerful tug with aquamaster (azimuth) propellers, and a barge pushboat), and plus a new environnment (Cornwall).
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Hi Denis,
Might I add, that it of course doesn't mean that the people who allready have the SS06 Addon and therefor part of the coming addon, will miss out on the new content. As said in the official announcement about the free upgrade, those completely new ships and the new environment will also be available to them, most likely as single addon downloads. (not as part of the free upgrade, these will have to be purchased)
Regards,
Fred
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you mean there will be two version of the new horizon add on ?
1. the full addon package
2. a partial addon package, less expensive, just to add the 2 new ships and the new zone, for those who already have the 2006 addon ?
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Well I am not aware of what it will be precisely, but it says so in the official announcement that the SS06 Addon owners can still upgrade the 6 ships fpr free, and that the new ships and environment will be offered as single addons that they can purchase, in April.
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,3052.0.html
I'm just saying this so that the SS06 addon owners don't think they have to pay again for those 6 ships in the new horizons addon. The 6 they allready have and were promised to get upgraded for free.
Regards,
Fred
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wy are the cormuel not in th new add-on
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So if I purchase 2008 add-on I don't need to purchase 2006 add-on to be able to play on the add-on servers?
In short, 2006 add-on and 2008 add-on contains the same ships (plus two for 2008)?
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The SS2006 Addon had 6 ships.
The SS2008 Addon will have 8 ships, plus an extra enviroment.
The SS2006 Owners can get a free update for these 6 ships, plus they can buy the 2 new ships and enviroment.
They allready had a change to download the 6 ships. The missions will follow soon, for free, and the new addons which they can purchase are planned for April as single downloads.
The People that don't own the SS2006 Addon, can just buy the SS2008 addon. This is planned (off the top of my head) for the 22nd of March. They just buy the whole pack in one box or download.
That's about it in a nuttshell, as far as the announcements have explained the proceedings. I hope this answers your question.
Regards,
Fred
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wy are the cormuel not in th new add-on
I am not sure about the name, but I saw a ship like that in the Rotterdam Harbour close to the Erasmusbrug as a static ship.
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This one is everywhere as static object, but there are no plans to make her a player ship, unfortunately... :'(
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That's a shame
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Indeed! I really love ferries of that size.. ::)
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I want all the ships from 06 for free for 08 in the addon
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That's impossible.......you need the SS2006 add on, which costs money.....
There is actaully a guy on ebay selling SS2006 and SS2006 Add-on for £10 with free P&P, brand new still sealed.
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so I'm pretty much stuck with just ship sim 08 ship huh :-X :-X ??? ??? :o :o :o :o :o :( :( :( :( :(
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I want all the ships from 06 for free for 08 in the addon
Why does everyone always want everything for free..? ::)
Don't you want the developers to stay in business and keep making upgrades and new games? ;D
Seriously though... a few ships from SS06 are in SS08 too, and ALL the SS06 addon ships will be in the SS08 addon.
If you want the other SS06 ships, you will just have to buy SS06 and play that. Those "missing" ships will not be added to SS08.
and you make "stuck with SS08" sound as if you got a bad deal by buying the sim. You knew what you were buying, didn't you? No one ever announced a load of free goodies. :-\
Regards,
Fred
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Greetings,
The members who are testing the new ships,put some screenshots on the forum,so we can see what to expect from this new part of the ship sim.
would that be not a nice idea?
Regards
Marc
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Isn't that the previlege of Frank@VSTEP?
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Sorry if it is,dont know realy.
Would be a nice promotion to the members,So they can see what to expect.
If it's not allowed,than this topic can be deleted in no time.
Sorry if i made a mistake
Regards
Marc
P.S.I think in that case i would hear something from Vstep.
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Well, I can't wait to post pics and videos as I did before with the ShipSimulator2008... ;D
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what about this official thread ?
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,4991.0.html
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That't why I wondering about Marcs post.. ::)
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That't why I wondering about Marcs post..
Well it seems that i've missed something,sorry about that!!
Thanks Bottman,i did not see that topic.Maybe i'm not even awake yet :D ;D :D
Marc
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That pushboat,is that the one Dejan have made??
Because there are some differences,now in coloring??
Marc
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I think it is, as Denis said the engine room is going to be in the game :)
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One of the reasons so many have trouble with the Red Eagle is that they have the idea that keys are easier to use than the wheels. The opposite is true.
I don't really agree with you mvsmith ... If you use your mouse, you can't rotate both wheels at the same time. Wich can be problematic.
take the example of the Bugsier, or the Ocean star. If you only use mouse, and want suddenly to set both engines to full reverse. You take the time to set left propeller to -180%, then the same for the right propeller. during the time you spent in beetween, your heading will probably have changed a few degrees (having one propeller full foward and the other one full backward)... The inertia of the ocean star is big enough, and she won't have probably moved a lot , but for the bugsier which response is very fast, you might have already hit a peer or another ship ... don't you think ?
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Hi!
take the example of the Bugsier, or the Ocean star. If you only use mouse, and want suddenly to set both engines to full reverse. You take the time to set left propeller to -180%, then the same for the right propeller. during the time you spent in beetween, your heading will probably have changed a few degrees (having one propeller full foward and the other one full backward)...
I like playing with the mouse (in absence of real-like controllers) just for that reason! In real life, if you fully reverse engines, firstly it will take time depending on the kind of propulsion, the speed and the inertia of the ship, and secondly your heading will certainly change and become a little unpredictable because of the pitch effect and the loss of control.
Shipsim for now doesn't take into account any of these parameters. The engine reverse is immediate even on the latitude, and the pitch effect while crash stop is absent.
So using the mouse is my away to feel a little more realism in the game. :P
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Denis,
Ocean Star & B2 are exceptions, because of the way the controls are implemented in Ship Simulator. In actual installations of dual ASD or tractors, the controls can be locked together for normal steering underway. For most other ships, including Red Eagle, precise steering is better done using the ship’s wheel with the mouse. Some missions are virtually impossible to complete with keyboard keys alone.
It’s amusing to read posts demanding realism on so many other points yet not when it comes to actually steering the ship.
Regards,
Marty
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Can you get free add-on downloadable ships? Without the need to pay for anything?
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aparently not I wish but I don't think so :|
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Hello AndyJay,
Apart from the jetski and the hovercraft that came in a free upgrade, there are no free downloadable ships available. People that own the SS06 Addon, do get a free update for SS08 which has the same 6 ships in it, but of course you have to pay for the SS06 addon to begin with.
No 3rd party addons either, if you meant that aswell. Only VSTEP releases new content.
Regards,
Fred
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on the ss08 add-on New Horizons can you look around the ocean star like you can the Titanic?
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Hi RoyalMarine1
Yes, it has a walktrough mode too, as most of the ships in SS08 have.
Regards,
Fed
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wow thats all a bit confusion...
atm i own ss2008 and the ss06 addon. so i will be able to get a chaper version of the ss08 addon.
but are there still plans to make the ss06 expansion pack mission available for ss08? and will customers that plan to buy the full new horizons exppack without the ss06 exppack get this missions too?
and then there is this Dutch Elbe & furie (http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,2979.0.html) add on. will this be a part of new horizons? if not, when will it be released in other languages?
???
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It's been explained a few times..
The SS06 Addon customers get a free update for their 6 ships to SS08.
The New Horizons addon will have those same 6 ships BUT also 2 new ones and a new environment.
So Ss06 Addon customers do not really have to buy the New Horizons Addon, they would only need the 2 new ships and the new environment.
And so, these new additions will be available to the SS06 Addon customers too, but as standalone payware addons, planned for April, so slightly later than New Horizons
So SS06 Addon customers do not get new horizons cheaper. They just get the same content that they allready had, suited for SS08, for free.
And the Elbe & Furie will not be in New Horizons. And there is no information as to the release of that addon. This will be announced in due time.
Check out the website and the Official topics in "FAQ's And announcements" for news about these things. It's all described in the official announcements.
Regards,
Fred