Ship Simulator
English forum => Ship Simulator 2008 => General discussions => Topic started by: LucAtC on February 01, 2008, 17:27:36
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Having read the announcment of a new Add-On: New Horizon, and as I see that Agile Solution is included, is it the Add-on of ShipSim2006 - reworked for 2008 and finalized?
Also, if it is the final version, will it be a free update for the people who already downloaded it?
I see that there is also a new tug, can we have its characteristics?
Finally, will there be changes to the graphics, for instance the sea textures?
Regards,
Luc
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I have a question, what other new ships are there please?
Also, the water looked amazing there, do we get new water aswell?
Amazing work VSTEP!
SA ;D
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BUGSIER 2 Real-Life Specs
http://www.tugboats.de/bugsier_2_article.html
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Great! Thanks ;D
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Luc,
It’s nice to see that Bugsier 2 is included. I hope we will see more vessels from that venerable German firm.
She was built in 2006, 430 ton, 5576 bhp @ 12 Kt, 63tbp
Twin screw and rudder with Kort Nozzles (Aquamaster)
That’s about all I remember.
Regards,
Marty
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It looks great I see that barges are included to ;D
jomach
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Well seeing as there are screenshots of the Bugsier 2 i'm sure they wouldn't mind me putting up these renders.
These are rnders of the model in lightwave that VStep asked me to make of which you see 2 screenshots of. This is how the model looked when i gave it to them for conversion so hopefully nothing much has changed although looking at the side screen-shot of it in-game it looks like the main aft winch is not there but could be just a glich or just my eyes.
Anyway heres some images of it: http://www.simondr.co.uk/stuff/wip/bugsier.html
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Great model Simon! You really are very talented
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This model is very nice indeed, great work, Simon!
From the pictures, one cannot see if the winch is absent or not, a moderator will surely be able to confirm its presence (or not).
About the barges being included, I think one could wait, it could be an AI or autonomous ship...
And the bollard pull, at 1.13t/100bhp, is also impressive, 63tbp, Vermaas or latitude will certainly become easily pulled . I wonder if Igor K. will also have gained some power?
Regards,
Luc
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Well, our latest beta still came without the main towing winch.. :-[
And I can tell you, it's really fun to steer both, the original and the model!!!
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From the photos it would appear that there is to be a new environment, the Cornwall coast. That should be very interesting.
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Indeed it is interesting ;)
I quite like the environment personally, lovely scenery ;D
Regards.
DJM.
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Coornwall? Wow! :D
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I think that this add-on will rock!
You guys at VSTEP did a great job putting this together while still making free updates for the community. You don't find that very often now a day!
I know this has been asked a lot of times already, but with brand new features included, I have to ask again. Especially now, that the first screens are live.
All sailors with the Add-On for the SS06 will get this Add-On for free with all its features. Is that statement correct?
I thank you in advance for answering that one there.
See you on the oceans! ;)
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All sailors with the Add-On for the SS06 will get this Add-On for free with all its features. Is that statement correct?
As far as I'm aware, this is still the case, yes :)
Regards.
DJM.
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Thanks guys.
Well, our latest beta still came without the main towing winch.. :-[
And I can tell you, it's really fun to steer both, the original and the model!!!
Oh oh hope they remember to put it in. This was done after the first set of files was sent to them and they received everything else just before new year so hears hoping. If not i think it will look kinda silly :O.
Also thanks to you for the photos you got they were a big help.
Simon.
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Hello Simon,
It's a great job you've done on that "bugsier-vessel".It's very detailed to.
This vessel can realy a big help for the "vermaas' and "latitude"
To have Cornwal,in the game,that's realy nice.If it comes out i realy will check that out.
Regards
Marc
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what is the planned release date or approx
anyone know what the final ranks are in scoring system
eric
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they say Cornwll as a new environment, does that mean we will get Plymouth Harbour? If so will we get Devenport Naval Dockyard? If so will we get a RN warship of some kind?????????
I am looking forward to this addon.
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Hi Lynx..
I can't disclose much, but I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you. ;)
Fred
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No then :D ;D
Are you beta testing aswell Fred? If so, when are the new set of screenies coming out please? :)
SA
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Greetings,
For the moment,this is what we all know,an exact date of release,well,that's not a good idea.Like in the past it has been delayed everytime.
Vstep will tell us when and how,if the time is right.
Cornwall,that's the only thing we know,how far from Cornwall,the enviroment starts,??????????????............
Waith and see,it can stay a bit of surprice.
Regards
Marc
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Hi Shipaddict
I might be.. ::)
I don't know when the next screens will be posted. But as the addon is due soon, "soon" would cover it, I guess. ;D
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You're very secretive today :P ::) ;D
Yep, soon is fine :)
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All sailors with the Add-On for the SS06 will get this Add-On for free with all its features. Is that statement correct? I thank you in advance for answering that one there.
Go to this topic (http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,3052.0.html) and all (well maybe not all, but a lot) will be revealed. ;)
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Hello,
Thanks for the answer, but being spread (like a certain product), I'll try to repeat so as to avoid misunderstandings. Please correct me if I am wrong.
The pushboat (with the barges), Bugsier2 and the Cornwall environment are three add-ons that will be published separately in April 2008.
These 3 add-ons will also be part of the "Ship Simulator 2008 Add-On: New Horizons" product, to be published in a yet to be disclosed date. This Add-on will (could?) also incorporate the six vessels of the Add-On Pack 2006.
Then, if any changes were done to the characteristics of the 6 ships, will there be any update for them?
Indeed, there are still many people asking for the add-on, so is it better for them to stay away from the SS2006 add-on and wait for the 2008?
Regards,
Luc
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Hi Luc.
So, even though I have the 2006=>2008 Add-on already, it sounds like it will be a very good idea to purchase the New Horizons add-on when it emerges.
Yes?
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There is, until now, no answer to this question, only fuzzy assumptions.
It could be indeed that the publishing of the separate add-ons (Bugsier2, Deus+Barges and Cornwall) will be delayed so that people having the "add-on2006-upgraded-to-2008" would be tempted to buy the New Horizons Add-on, so that to avoid staying stuck with non-updated 6 ships and lacking the 3 novelties.
Or, a patch to this "add-on06 to 08" would be published separately, and that is the question I was asking.
So, it could be indeed a good idea, but then all the people who just bought the add-on will feel ... hmm don't know how to say that in English.
Regards,
Luc
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What I suspect, but I am not sure, is this:
First, a patch will be released to update the partial SS2008 addon that the SS2006 owners have been promised to get for free. So that "deal" will then have been fulfilled and they get the finished 2006-2008 conversion that way.
Then, there will be single ship/single environment downloads available for the extra content that has been announced in April. Tug, pusher+barges, Cornwall. These will not be free.
And then, for those who didnt have the SS2006 addon (and/or the single addons) yet, these 6 vessels PLUS the extra content, will be released in a complete package. (New Horizon). This will also oviously not be free.
As I said, I do not know this for a fact, but this is what I make of the official announcement.
Regards,
Fred
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Confused?
No I'm back to thinking I'm senile again. ???
Personal feedback: I enjoy Shipsim so much that if there was a fee for a single download to give me everything in one hit, I would happily pay it, even if some aspects were duplicated.
If it means 26 upgrade options and different stages, I suspect that many people who would happily pay for a single or double stage upgrade will be put off. If Vstep keep it simple, it will sell best.
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Hi Luc,
I'm also a bit confused, as what to expect with the release of the new add-on.
There are now several topic's on different levels regarding this. What is and what isn't in the new add-on / patch.
(I removed a link to FRED's answer elswere regarding the official anouncement, since he has reacted while I was typing)
Maybe it helps you to get to the source of the VSTEP comp. You are like FRED a Glob. Mod. isn't it?
I have all the versions of SIMSHIP 2006 and 2008 in the boxes from the beginning in 2006 and like to know, as many other fans, what is next.
vr. gr. Erik
Terry has a good point there
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Hello Erik,
You are a bit puzzled, and so am I. Remember, moderators "moderate" a forum, and have no role in the development and no particular relationship with VStep except for the forum. Some are also beta-testers, but the only difference is that they have much more "work" to do.
We have of course other ties in a separate part of the forum, but only to help each other to solve your problems. If I evade a question, it will be of course because I don't know the answer, but also because I know I will not find one.
But the development team is also made of humans (I think?), (eating, sleeping, riding, working, etc..) and they will give an answer, surely if we insist a little bit. But they don't want to give false hopes, nor disappoint their public, so some time is needed to disclose more details.
Of course, the info threw more questions than it gave answers, but tomorrow we'll receive an answer if there is one, so be patient please. And by the way, I am a French moderator, not a Global one. In practice, it means there are only two of us who speak and write in French.
Regards, ;)
Luc
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Luc,
Thank you for your help. As I said to Fred a short while ago, I really do appreciate the hard work and kind help that all of the moderators put into this forum. Often you get no thanks, but often you get complaints and sometimes insults.
I appreciate your input very much. You are all great sources of help and good informations. Thank you.
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Hello Luc,
Thanks for the answer; I'm not so quick in typing English.
I understand your position, and I repect the work that you and other MOD's do, very much.
I just hoped, that there was more / you would get more info, because of your activity's for the forum, or could stimulate the people who did.
I just tried to support your (and other's) confusion, to get to the botom of this.
One suggestion: would it be a good idee to see all releated topics / threats regarding the new situation in one threat.
Could you / Fred be the helpfull in this?
vr. gr. Erik
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Hi eviss,
Let's all just wait till we get a clear answer from VSTEP. It's only just been announced so we'll have to be a bit patient and speculating beyond allready stated suspicions wouldn't help anyway.
Rest assured, when it becomes known, you will read about it. ;)
Fred
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Hoi Fred,
Just trying to be friendly, not impatient.
vr. gr. Erik
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Hey Erik,
Yeah I know, I was just talking in general, saying "Let wait and see what VSTEP has to say". Didn't mean anything by it! ;D
There's a few topics with related statements in it, but it won't really help to put them in one spot. Or wasn't that what you meant? The official announcement is easy enough to find though. :)
groet,
Fred
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Hallo Fred,
I did see an anwer from you in Tech. Sup. (add-on 2006-2008) what seems to be a translation (your interpretation) of the official statement elswere and I would like it to be known to Luc, who discussed it here.
So that's at least three places where discusions / info to be found, is going on. I switch'd between all of them to follow what was going on as to the new devellopments. I could not get your quote quick to the topic of Luc, so I placed a link.
That was too late because you reacted in between to Luc. See what I mean ?
Just as the one you found: add-on 2006 to 2008 in oct ' 07, if I remember correctly
and reported on the forum then, there was a possability that there was something new today, isn't it.
That's why I suggested an one and only pace to discus this topic, that's all.
vr. gr. Erik
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okay so let me get this straight...the owners of the 2006 add on like myself will get the new add on as a free upgrade?
Dan
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Look here:
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,3052.0.html
The 6 vessels will be in the free upgrade, the other newly announced content will not.
Regards,
Fred
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Then, if any changes were done to the characteristics of the 6 ships, will there be any update for them?
Indeed, there are still many people asking for the add-on, so is it better for them to stay away from the SS2006 add-on and wait for the 2008?
Regards,
Luc
Hi Luc,
The free upgrade is not only a visual one, but will include all the updated characteristics for the vessels. So you will have the latest "characteristics build" so to speak of the vessels just as they will be featured in the New Horizons add-on.
Look here:
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,3052.0.html
The 6 vessels will be in the free upgrade, the other newly announced content will not.
Yes Fred, that is quite correct.
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Well all very confusing! I am waiting for the New Add-on to come out before getting it! I have been wanting to get the 2006 add-on since i bought 2008, but have put it off until 2008 Add-on New Horizon come out. Hope its soon! ;D
On a slightly different note, does any of the beta testers know which parts of cornwall is included? Will we get plymouth Sound 8) (unlikely from what i have read :( ) or is it some of the coast? Though the Cornish coast is lovely, i know it well both from sailing past (on yachts and tankers ;D ) as well as from on land too! Do you think we will get a sim surf board to go surfing on!! :o Surfs up dudes! 8)
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Plymouth Sound: no :-[
Surfer: no :-X
But one of the developers seems to be a real surf fan, so this could be a question of time.. ::)
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Hello Frank, ;)
Thanks for the good news. :D
Is it already known if the tide heights in the Cornwall environment will be at the map zero level, or at some other level in Padstow (just to know which ships will sail the area) ?
Do you have new pictures too? ::)
Regards,
Luc
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Hoi Luc,
Just saw the latest picture's here.
vr. gr. Erik
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,4991.msg52696.html#msg52696
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Hello Erik, :D
Many thanks, I should have thought that Frank should have posted new pictures at the same time!
vr gr ook,
Luc
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Will the "Elbe & Furie" English edition addon be available before New Horizon?
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Hoi Luc,
Just saw the latest picture's here.
vr. gr. Erik
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,4991.msg52696.html#msg52696
In the latest pictures, I saw that the anchor on the hull of the classic yacht is still there. I wonder if they plan to fix that strange situation where, when you lower the anchor, the old anchor graphics remains behind the chain... (It would be simplest if they just removed the old anchor graphic from the hull, and made it look like all the other boat hulls.)